A Prophet

A Prophet

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review. The podcast, it is to film criticism as a stroke is to the after dinner speech circuit. We're gonna make you an offer you probably should refuse this week as we kick things off. With the top five godfathers we'll rank cinema's most trusted father figures by their ability to combine absolute moral authority with their own spectacular personal failure.

This week's review sees us incarcerated with Jack Oard. How's that, Chris? Was that any good? Jack? What Oard?

Dan: Clearly

Cris: ah, right. Yeah. Sorry, I was confused. I think so. I think that's what you say, Jacque.

Reegs: A DR a prophet, a French prison drama, which proves that rehabilitation is really just a fancy word for advanced criminal education.

It's basically the Karate kid. If Mr. Miyagi was a course and psychopath and instead of wax on, wax off its hold balls stab neck. Now a quick disclaimer before we start. We're about to violate more taboos than a family reunion in Guernsey. So if you'd rather not confront the [00:01:00] fundamental awfulness of human nature, perhaps now is the time for you to reconsider your choices.

But for everyone else, it's time to introduce the four Horse Men of mediocrity. Starting with Dan. He's so old. He remembers when grooming meant brushing your hair. He's been running on a zero fucks policy for so long that even nihilists think he's taking things a bit too far. Next up is gorgeous Chris, whose cinematic curation process demonstrates the kind of bold creativity associated with the prison cafeteria menu.

So we get the full range this week from gritty urban crime drama to gritty international crime drama. Proving the idea of variety is whether the subtitles are in English or French. And nearly at the end of our daisy chain gang, the man who's been practicing his cavity searches all week and constantly has consequently has become very popular with the lifers.

It's side. And then there's me res Hello.

Cris: Hello

Dan: Hello.

hello.

So yeah, godfather week.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: There's a certain amount of [00:02:00] Godfather films out there, isn't there?

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Dan: But any of you godfathers?

Sidey: Yep.

Cris: Yeah, I am. Yeah.

Reegs: are a godfather to someone who are, you would go further

Dan: to

Sidey: Henry Norman.

Reegs: Henry Norman,

Cris: Yeah.

I One of Norm's kids.

Sidey: The, the eldest of norm's.

Reegs: Oh,

Cris: Oh, is that Henry? He is the oldest,

Sidey: Okay. Yeah, I never acknowledged it. He

Reegs: to different, so you wouldn't, they, he'd split

Sidey: think I gave him a present and stuff when he was very young, but now it's just faded away into nothingness.

Reegs: All right. Did you feel honored at the time or,

Sidey: Yeah, probably.

Reegs: yeah. Yeah. Nice.

Cris: I'm godfather as well, or godparent, whatever you call

Dan: Mm-hmm.

Cris: My mate, Danny, this Romanian boy that we've all seen at the barbecue with his

daughter.

That's my goddaughter

Sidey: come to me.

Reegs: Is

it,

is it in explicitly? It's a Christian thing,

Cris: Yeah. It's to, to be fair, we as Romanians, were Greek Orthodox and it is it's the godparents for the wedding.

So you have that, I dunno if you have it

in.

Dan: unorthodox.[00:03:00]

Cris: No, you have

Reegs: they do trumpets and stuff.

Dan: Right, okay.

Cris: and Lutherans and Protestants and

Reegs: Mm. There's all sorts of variations. Yeah. I mean, you know, Henry viii, he just made up old religion just so he could get married, didn't he? So,

Dan: Did he

Sidey: horny.

Reegs: The Church of England

is

Dan: Right. Okay. A nice one.

Yeah.

Cris: and he was gay, so they have it.

Sidey: Wow.

Reegs: that is breaking news here, I think.

Cris: I

just thought I'd let the old

Brits

Dan: why's why, that's why people tune in. That's if, if you were in the know

in, in mainland Europe, I guess that was the, the word on the street, that's what's written in there in the school books. That's what they learned. Yeah.

Cris: Has anyone watched anything This week

Dan: I watched the last series of Peaky Blinders.

I, it was something that I hadn't I'd watched up to, I think, was it series five or series six? Ages ago. And it taken so long for that [00:04:00] last series to come out that.

Reegs: it did.

Cris: Oh, so is it not finished yet? It's

Sidey: finished

now.

Dan: No, it has now, but it, it's taken me up until this week to, to revisit it and catch up with 'cause you end up forgetting

Reegs: what happened. Yes.

Dan: what had happened for five six series.

And, but I did then go back and watch this last series. Have you seen it all?

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: I think the writer is writing the next James Bond movie. Is that right? Did I read

Reegs: Stephen Knight, isn't it? Is the writer of Peaky

Sidey: Yeah, it's him and Denny Vov to direct.

Reegs: Yes.

Dan: Well he is a good writer.

Sidey: need someone to be a bond. But

Dan: tells a, he tells a good story. Yeah. They've gotta start putting out bonds soon, haven't they? They're gonna have to

Reegs: yes. You feel the casting process has got to be well underway?

Sidey: I think everyone must know behind the scenes, surely. Anyway, guess. What about you Reese?

Reegs: not really a lot this week. No. No.

Sidey: My miss has been rewatching lost.

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: So I've been watching [00:05:00] that season one and, and realizing that actually it was pretty shit from the get go. Yeah. Was it? Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. I

never

Reegs: I, I periodically think about rewatching it, but,

Sidey: well,

no.

Series one is the, the high

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: I suppose the end when they, they end with the, they find some others, don't they? And it was an interesting conceit, you know, flashbacks to the person's history and then seeing them on the island. But it was clearly an idea that they didn't flesh out before they started making it. So I know that it's gonna get fucking stupid.

Reegs: I think it was the idea at that point. I mean, I think we're used to that kind of storytelling these days maybe. But the idea that they told everyone, they knew the story, but they clearly didn't,

like

Sidey: I remember at the time people hypothesizing that it was like a purgatory. Yeah. And they were like, no, it's definitely not that.

And at the end, oh yeah, it actually was that. So we've been watching that. But no other movies, I don't think. I've been watching lots of clips of things. I think I've watched almost the entire Hannibal movie now on clips on YouTube. Nice. And then it's pushing other stuff my way. So I watched quite a lot of [00:06:00] Mario Zo adaptation.

Dan: Ah, like

Sidey: I forget what it's called, but, it's quite topical this week or

Cris: maybe?

Sidey: Yeah. What about you,

Dan: the Sicilian?

Cris: Do you know what, because it was on football, I watched quite a few things being two different series and they're both fairly short. I watched the thing on net, well, both on Netflix, a thing called Boy Swallows Universe which is an Australian limited series with the guy from Vikings,

Reegs: I thought his name of Pete. Sex tape.

Cris: What wife

Sidey: boy swallows the universe. Yes.

Cris: With the guy from Vikings, another one that Pete swallowed. The, the main actor,

Sidey: He loves that, don't he?

Cris: I can't remember the guy's name, but that guy, and he's got a mullet and her eyes. It's amazing. And

Reegs: got a mullet

Sidey: It's alpaca hair. Yeah. Is what it's called, isn't it?

Reegs: it,

Is that what it's it does look like an alpaca, to

Sidey: be

Cris: So I watched that. I finished it. It's, I, I don't even know how to explain that. It's like, it's quite funny and it's, it's two kids, like in the [00:07:00] eighties of Australia. This kind of, their life story and how they grow is a coming of age story or whatever with it's quite, it's got quite a few actors that I've seen before and I had no idea they're Australian.

But clearly they're all Australian and I think it's like a six or seven episodes. And, you know, it's, it's, it's quite

Sidey: Mm-hmm.

Cris: But I can't tell you exactly if it's, it looks like it's fiction a little bit, but it's also looks like it's someone's life story. It, it's quite of a, a kind of, I dunno, strange middle ground.

And I watched last night, an episode and two episodes last night, sorry, of a thing called mercy For None, which is a South Korean thing on Netflix, which is John Wick.

Reegs: But with nuns?

Oh,

Cris: none as in NONE

Reegs: I was getting well excited there for a minute. Yeah,

Cris: No for none. Like for no one, but

Reegs: Hold on. I've got a great idea for, for a movie.[00:08:00]

Cris: Honestly,

if John Wick

was Korean. Oh, this is unbelievable. And the fight scenes are really good. Obviously I love AIT subtitles movie. I can't speak Korean, but it's really good, really, really good, really well filmed. And I think it's, again, it's one of the, the episodes are 30, between 30 and 40 minutes.

Dan: I dunno, I'm not really into religious stuff. You know,

Cris: it's not really about religion but honestly it is, so far, I've only watched two episodes and I think it's eight or nine. The same like limited

Sidey: series, just one series.

Cris: I hope so. I, I only search for limited series. I I don't watch anything else, so I only search for limited series.

Sidey: I'll tell you, I watched Riggs Well, and the entire Internet's recommend was the sermon on the Mount. Oh, south Park episodes, right?

Astonishing. It's good, isn't it? It's funny, the whole like story of it is, see how much money they've made?

Reegs: Yeah. One and a half billion

Sidey: plus the streaming deal that they were on before. So they've done two and a half bill. [00:09:00] Split between them and immediately fucking go for

Reegs: shit all over the people that own them, like make themselves a target in some way.

Sidey: is. It just

Dan: What's this? I don't, I dunno.

It's

Sidey: I dunno, they, they, south Park was bought the, the rights for it for the next five years were bought by Paramount for one and a half billion. So all the previous stuff and all their new stuff

Reegs: and the day after they

signed the

Sidey: because it's crudely animated, they're able to produce the show right up to almost at the date that it is.

And so they just went after Trump went because there was this deal that Paramount had, had to settle a

Reegs: Paramount and

then they'd asked a load of like public services,

Sidey: and all this sort of stuff.

Reegs: A show that was critical of Trump and all this stuff. So they made the whole episode about how much of a cunt Trump is and like how much a

Sidey: the show is Dig The Show is dig

Reegs: and like all this stuff.

And then they talk about what coward's paramount are. And anybody could be next. Like it's really like, it's quite a,

Dan: and then they, they've signed

Sidey: then they just put, they just put it out. They go, S then [00:10:00] we'll

fucking take you

Reegs: just literally a billion and a half they've paid in Paramount. They fought and it's very vicious.

Like it really goes

Sidey: So, you know, you get all this stuff about DeepFakes, they do a deepfake public service announcement of Trump and how much he loves you and he's going through. But like, it's a, it's not the South by emanation. It's, it's a deep fake video. Yes.

kind

of going through the, but like more fat.

And as he's going through the desert, this is how much Trump loves you and he is taking off his clothes and then he just lies down in the desert and is ditched to piss. Yeah. I'm, I'm Donald Trump and I support this message. It's fucking amazing.

Reegs: And they explicitly compare him to Saddam Hussein from the movie,

Dan: yeah.

Reegs: Oh, you haven't seen the movie? No. No.

Sidey: And then

Reegs: So

Sidey: they I forgot what I was gonna say.

Reegs: It's funny.

Sidey: they, they, where

Cris: did, can I see this

Sidey: on? Well, you'll be able to stream it, I'm sure, but it's on Paramount Plus. Oh They had one of the guys who sent, they had four days of meetings just talking about Trump's dick and whether they would be allowed to show his dick [00:11:00] on the tv.

And in the end they had to the compromise they made was that if they put eyes on the dick and made it a character, you don't have to blur it out. Yeah. And then Trump and the the White House actually, rather than just ignoring it and like trying to make it go away, they acknowledged it and said, this show is shit.

It's

Reegs: They, they start saying, oh, it's been terrible for ages

Sidey: Well, I just got paid one and a half billion.

Reegs: Ah, you got annoyed. Didn't you Trump with your little wiener dick?

Sidey: So I watch that and it was fucking hilarious. Yeah. Really good.

Dan: Okay.

Right.

Reegs: It's

on the record that his dick is small though, so That is

Sidey: true. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: Well,

Sidey: Stormy Daniels said, so no mushroom dick. And that leads very well into this week's top five. Should we crack on?

Reegs: We should,

Cris: shall we

Sidey: top five? Yeah. Godfathers, it was put on the group to interpret it or, so I've, I've gone for godfathers and gods and fathers.

Reegs: Okay.

Well, what have you got? Give us some what you've, what have you got?

Sidey: Well I've got Tony Soprano. [00:12:00] Yeah. As the kind of godfather type figure. He's also a father. 'cause we see his domestic life.

Yeah. And his mob life. We do. And it's not always able to reconcile those two things very well.

Reegs: I think the title is used jokingly at some places. I think he calls junior godfather at one point, but he's demeaning him, taking the piss out of him. I dunno what he's referencing. But

Sidey: that was a real good, good show.

I can't think of any others. No, that's, does nothing else things to mind.

Reegs: Well, if that sort of crime boss, you've, you've always got Frank Costello from the departed course. He

was a sort of Irish mob boss, very much the godfather of that group. But he also ends up being an FBI informant, doesn't he?

Who would've thought. Yeah. And he's caught in the battle between Leonardo DiCaprio

Cris: and

Mad Damon.

Reegs: Damon. Matt Damon, yeah.

Cris: Yeah. There's also sorry to interrupt you. No,

Reegs: No, no. Keep, let's just, let's, let's keep it freeform. Let's be Jazz

Cris: Bulger Whitey Bulger.

Yeah.

He's the same, pretty much the same in the, the, [00:13:00] the mold of Costello.

Yeah. Where they do show him as a boss. He's also an FBI informant. Yeah. And he loses his son. And so he shows him his personal life and he's a godfather and the father, and he loses his son, and that's when he turns really nasty.

Angry

Reegs: and his uncle Paul from Good Fells right at the beginning, Henry Hill, he aspires to, he sees the life of luxury that he's living.

And he's very much the godfather of the

Sidey: Paul Sno, is it?

Reegs: is,

Cris: Sno. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. And based on real life Mob Boss Paul Rio, who was a capo of the Luke JayZ crime family.

Dan: You've got the animated kind of.

Godfathers. Fat Tony, of course is a classic in The Simpsons. He, they'll often roll him out.

And I'm, I'm glad, I mean, lot, lots of our favorite Simpson characters have had their, their episodes now, haven't they? And, and a few more than more than [00:14:00] One Fat Tony is, has rolled into the Family guy or Family Guy. The Griffin's stumbled into Mafia a few times in, in different plots. Big Fat Paul and the Robot Mafia Infu in Future Armor.

Always make me chuckle as well. You've got Don Bot clamps and Joey Mousepad who appear in various episodes. And normally yeah, it's just all cliches and, and things and they're, they're kind of bumbling mechanical thugs. But those, those kind of godfathers make me chuckle.

Cris: Yeah.

Odin,

In Thor, he's a God and he's a father. Father to these two Dicks, Thor and Loki.

And he's also a god

to the,

Sidey: it's Hopkins. Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. Yeah. Is he a Sir

Sidey: Hopkins? Yeah, He sure is sir.

Cris: Sorry. Apologies. So there, he's a sir as well as a God and as a father.

Reegs: I, Heller is his daughter as well. Yeah. And she brings about an apocalypse, doesn't she? So,

Cris: Didn't I missed

Sidey: Ragnar [00:15:00] Rock. He

Reegs: he slaughtered millions as well. I think so. He is not quite the nice guy that he appears in Marvel cinematic universe

Cris: Well, Anthony Hopkins, sir. Anthony Hopkins

Reegs: He slaughtered millions of people. Yeah. Hopkins.

Cris: What a guy. And they made him, sir.

Brits with

Reegs: a screwdriver.

The

Cris: eh,

love of mass murderer.

Reegs: I got some actual godparents. Okay. In, in Hollywood. So Lady Gaga is godmother, but I think we can allow that, can't we? Of course.

To Elton John's children, Zachary and Elijah, presumably she teaches them about meat dresses.

Sidey: I'm gonna have to go and see her perform

Reegs: I

know. Yeah. You're looking forward to that.

Sidey: that?

Cris: Do you want me to go with Kaylee instead of you? Yes. Yeah.

Reegs: All right. That's a done deal Elton John himself is the moral compass for David Beckham's.

Sidey: right. Yeah.

Cris: You see a godmother as well.

Reegs: as well. He's the godfather to his boys and David Beckham himself. Then in turn provides spiritual guidance to live Tylers.

Cris: This

is like the human [00:16:00] centipede of

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: live Tylers

Reegs: Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? And I think, I think the Beckham's a whores for people being godmothers and godfathers, aren't they?

Everybody's there. I

Sidey: didn't know there was a connection with the Tyler

Dan: and Tyler spiritual

Reegs: it? Yeah. And Jamie Lee Curtis is Jake Gill Hall's Godmother. And Jake Gill Hall in turn is godfather to Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams's daughter.

Sidey: Okay. So now that Heath is no longer with us, does that take on a

Cris: he's

a God, Yeah.

Sidey: role. Do you? You have to be more involved.

Reegs: dunno. Maybe.

Cris: it's a spiritual role, so he's, he's a God now. He's ascended.

Dan: It's a fairly kind of, just loose term, isn't it? I mean, you, there isn't anything tied to it as a godfather, I mean, maybe it would've been back. in

Reegs: when you do it in church.

There's,

Sidey: I did it, I had to do it in church. I'm trying to remember

Reegs: you are taking,

Sidey: what they, what they said.

I mean, I've got stuff in my will that if we both snuff it, people are in charge of like Right. The kids. Yeah.[00:17:00]

Reegs: Mallon gets sent to the Baty dogs home. Yeah. You bleep the name.

Sidey: that's all. But I'm trying to remember. Surely I did have to say something about some

Dan: Yeah. Okay. It takes on a

Sidey: so if Norm significant,

Reegs: It's a, if,

Sidey: if Norm did die and we all hope that he does I think I have to like

childish look after.

You probably wanna keep all of them together and there's loads of him, so I don't wanna really, can I renege on my God fathering vows?

Cris: turn back if it's written

Sidey: down.

Reegs: Norm, if you're listening.

Sidey: to sure he is.

Dan: Stay alive.

Reegs: I've got a co I don't know, I don't wanna go too far, but there are a couple more interesting Godfather relationships if people interested. Eva Longoria is godmother to the Beckham's daughter.

Sidey: They're what? Twisted Web.

Reegs: They're whores, aren't they? Henry Winkler is godfather to Bryce, Dallas, Howard,

Sidey: Oh yeah. You'd want, you'd want the FS as your godfather, wouldn't you? Have you Stephen

Reegs: Spielberg godfather to Drew Barrymore and Gwyneth Paltrow.

Sidey: And I did know that both

Cris: Yeah. That makes sense now.

Reegs: McCalley kin godfather to all three of Michael Jackson's children.

Bono godfather to Brad Pitt and [00:18:00] Andrew Lena Jolie's twins. As if those people didn't have enough problems.

Cris: Why

are you hating on Bono?

Sidey: It's

so easy.

Reegs: Yeah,

Cris: exactly. Just because he's so wholesome.

Reegs: And Vin Diesel, this is quite nice, is Godfather to Paul Walker's daughter Meadow. And he walked her down the aisle

Cris: Okay, well that's, I like that.

Sidey: That's good.

Dan: Okay, well, get on up is 2014 biographical music film back. James Brown, who's the, the godfather of soul.

Cris: Yes, He is.

Reegs: Have we all got bits on the Godfather of X then? Have we

Dan: played James Brown.

And he had quite a, I've seen that film. He's, he had quite a crazy life.

Cris: Oh, it's amazing. There's a scene where the woman comes to and takes the shit in his have you seen that? No. Honestly, he, he kinda holds court in his, like a whole thing. And he tries to get people to, to, it's like an AA meeting and he speaks, and then a woman goes and takes a shit and he's like, damn, woman, did you just go in there and just took [00:19:00] a 45 minute shit in James Brown's building, you better go back and clean it.

So

anyway, that's, and then he shoots inside the building with a shotgun or something. So it's, yeah, it's a great film. Sorry,

I

Dan: No, no, that's, that's a well,

well added in.

Yeah, it, it is, it is a, a decent film for a crazy, crazy life. And and

Cris: it's, I think it's a two and a half hour one as well.

It it's a fairly long one.

Dan: It's, it is, it is a, it is a long film. So you'd have probably just seen

Cris: No, I loved it. I've watched it a couple of times actually.

Dan: Okay.

No, Good. Nice.

Cris: Not consecutively, but

Dan: you

know,

Reegs: Yeah, it's a long time since I've done that.

watched a movie twice in a row?

Cris: Well, it depends on how long the film is.

Dan: I'm

just thinking other, other godfathers

Sidey: for Godfather, we've had the godfather of soul, godfather of punk.

Reegs: Well, who, but who are you gonna take that? 'cause I look this up. I've got a whole bit on godfathers of X, but. [00:20:00] I've

Sidey: I'm going, I've got

Reegs: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 options given to me by

Sidey: Wikipedia

I'm going with Iggy Pop for that.

Reegs: I would also go with that.

But they also offers you Captain Beefheart, Joey Ramon, Lou Reed, Pete Townsend, and John Leiden.

It

has to be Iggy Pop. I would also

Cris: out of all those

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: The stooges are fucking rad.

Reegs: Should we agree on the godfather of rock and roll?

Sidey: Elvis

Reegs: Cho Berry. I'm gonna say, okay, chop, chop berry.

Sidey: What about,

Dan: Berry.

Sidey: what about the,

Reegs: chop berry?

What

Sidey: what about the the godfather of grime?

I've got Wiley.

Reegs: Wiley. Okay. Godfather of grunge. Neil Young.

Sidey: Okay. Yeah. Russ never sleeps

Dan: got godfather of classical music.

Sidey: Gustav Holst would be mine.

Reegs: Oh,

Dan: Well,

Reegs: I don't know. I'm not really. Educated

Cris: I

Dan: I'll be bark.

Reegs: Godfather of Horror, you might say. Wes Craven. John Carpenter.

Sidey: I would on John Carpenter.

Reegs: What about the Godfather of movies where a character screams about bees and punches a woman in the face while wearing a bear costume? Nick[00:21:00]

Could be Nick Cage, couldn't it? That one? Yeah.

Cris: Wow.

Dan: Strong

Sidey: What about some musical references?

Kanye, I am a God. Which I think he probably does

Reegs: does genuinely

Sidey: That's from his Yeezus album in 2013. God is a disc jockey or DJ for sure. That was a faithless. One was, remember that? Quite like that. Jim, God only knows. He's just signed for

West

Dan: yeah,

Reegs: he's gonna play up front for Westham. Brian Wilson. Yeah.

Cris: Wilson.

Sidey: God saved the Queen.

The Sex Pistols. Dear God, XTC they're, they're all songs. And then father ones Father and son, KA Stevens slash Yusef Islam dance with my father Ruth Vandross. We all big fan of his. Oh

Cris: I am.

yeah.

Dan: Oh, that's a tear jerk of that song, isn't it?

Yeah.

Sidey: You gotta keep your jerking numbers up. Papa don't preach.

Mad, mad Donna. And my father's house, Bruce Springsteen.

Cris: Wow.

Sidey: I want to repeat there.

Dan: Okay.

Cris: That is good. We like that.

Reegs: Well, I can't really think of any other notable

[00:22:00] godfathers.

Dan: I'm just trying

Cris: Well, I can't say anything related to music, but I can say there's, the, the, the one that I have the, with the most godfathers in the same film is a film called Hoodlum.

Okay.

Reegs: Okay.

Cris: 1997 where you have Lawrence Fish plays Lawrence Fishburne plays Bumpy Johnson Andy Garcia plays Charlie Lucky Luciano, Tim Roth plays Dutch, Dutch Schultz and Cicely Tyson plays s Stephanie Sinclair also RTA Divine Plays Pigford Mary. So that's

Dan: pig Foot, Mary?

Cris: Yes. Yeah. Who was apparently a, a dame in the underworld of New

York

Dan: dame. She's just a dame. So,

Cris: Has anyone seen this film?

Have you not?

No, Okay.

Well these are, have you, have you never seen Hoodlum?

Sidey: No, I've never seen it.

Cris: Well, these are all actors and they all play these characters, which we've all heard of Charles.

Reegs: and they were all godfathers

Cris: in their own family. Yes. And [00:23:00] they, this is the one where I have them all being together.

And speaking of Bumpy Johnson

Ellsworth, bumpy Johnson, in other words is American gangster, where he teaches a young Frank Lucas, the trade of

Dan: Washington. Yeah. Yes.

Reegs: Bumpy Johnston does. Is Bumpy Johnson a real thing or

Cris: Johnson. Yes. Elsworth, bumpy Johnson.

Sidey: Mickey two times and all that.

Dan: Two times, two times.

Sidey: the

Cris: you can search for him.

And he actually was

Sidey: Yeah, no, I like it. Gangster.

Reegs: Gangster. Okay. Bumpy in

Cris: Elsworth Bumpy Johnson. Yeah. He was, low, loved and hated equally. And he claimed to be a real Robin Hood until he had a heart attack, which we see in American gangster at the beginning where Frank Lucas is his personal bodyguard, and then he takes over the, the business.

And that's the godfather

of

Reegs: a rocky road for Bumpy, wasn't it?

Cris: Yeah. He ate the Rocky Road as well,

Sidey: like a rocky

Cris: by the looks of him. And quite funny enough, Clarence Williams ii is in Hoodlum, but [00:24:00] he plays a different character. But in American gangster, he is bumpy Johnson.

Sidey: Nice.

There you

Cris: Oh, there you go. So it's a nice reference there, I think.

And I hope that

Sidey: should we chuck some noms in then?

Reegs: Yeah, let's do it,

Sidey: Dan.

Dan: Well, I'm gonna go for George Burns who played God in in Oh God. An old film. Remember George Burns? Yeah. Like old timey actor.

He acted until he was well into his eighties,

Reegs: nineties. He's one of those that they referenced on The Simpsons a couple of times. Yeah.

Dan: And and this was one of his most famous kind of parts where he, he was like a,

you know, he had a, he had a sense of humor. He was black and white, and it was one of those things where before that God was always, you know, that, that a deity and a, a white beard and, and that kind of thing.

And suddenly he's a, he's a smoke. He was.

Basically who, who he was in real life, but he just came in and, and played.

Reegs: who God was

Dan: Yeah. [00:25:00] Yeah. No, who George Burns was in real life. He played it, you know, pretty much himself. Burnsy. So Mr. Burns? Yeah. I'm gonna go for George Burns.

Sidey: Briggs.

Reegs: Well, I've got Charles Wright.

He was a former professional wrestler who played the Godfather. He was discovered working as a bartender during the filming of Stallone's 98 19 87 masterpiece Over the Top. You remember that? The Arm

Dan: Yeah. Masterpiece. I'm glad you called it Masterpiece. Yeah.

Reegs: He was also Papago in WE he starred in some incredible sounding movies.

Karate Ghost killer Waves Two, the much anticipated 2020 sequel to Killer Waves bite School Two and From Dust Till Bong. The synopsis of which includes this line screaming J Pigeons, has to rip out vampire eyes of our eyes to travel to another dimension, to save his love and fight the

Cris: Wow.

Sidey: Is that your norm for next week?

Reegs: Is that next? Yeah. The God. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Next

Sidey: Karate Ghost is

Reegs: Karate Ghost sounds amazing, doesn't

Sidey: it? I've got one that [00:26:00] I want to put in that is neither a God or a father or a Godfather. Is it Godmother? No, it's Judge Phil Banks from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Right. Will, his father is an, is

Dan: Oh, well he is kind of a godfather

Sidey: particular moment as well.

There's a particular moment where he's been abandoned or stood up by his father and and George, Phil steps up and it's quite his toes of

Dan: quite emotion.

Sidey: And

he's no longer with us, sadly.

Reegs: Imagine how disappointed he'd learned to, to see that Will Smith went around slapping

Sidey: I know. And I saw, I think it was a TikTok of, you know, the behind the actors go or whatever.

It's where they sit around and do a round table and there's all these like heavyweight actors and Will Smith and I think I'm fairly sure it's post Oscar, like humiliation. And they're all sat there and he's going, yeah, I, I got my, I got cheated on when I was 16. I'd decided that I, I was never gonna let that happen.

And the way that I would never let that happen again is become the best actor in the whole world. And they're all like looking at, like, [00:27:00] looking around and Eio del Toro. Just give him this mad side eye, like whatever dickhead it's fucking, you gotta look up. It's so good.

Dan: I like that round

Sidey: has just got zero self-awareness of what a fucking helmet he is.

Yeah. But Judge Phil on the other hand, like standup guy gi Yeah. Top

Dan: gaer.

Cris: Yeah. Geezer. Absolute Giza. My norm is going to be a film, which in English would be named Corone. It's a 2007 drama series, an Italian drama series, which is only one season, which is amazing.

And if anyone wants to watch it don't believe me, but it's 8.4 out 10 on IM db. It's il ka in Italian. And it's based on the life of Salva tore to Torina, which is the original godfather of the Sicilian mafia. And he evaded the capture until 2022. Yeah. When he was dying of, I think, pancreatic cancer and he finally surrendered.

But he is [00:28:00] apparently guilty of the direct involvement in the murder of over 300 people. And that's a film made

about him very. And his, and his life. And that's what I'm gonna be as my norm.

Sidey: Nice.

Reegs: So that's for Godfathers. I, it's quite a tough subject. I don't think we've left any godfathers out at all. So

Sidey: it's hard. covered everything you

Reegs: of

Dan: Hopefully people will show some respect. That's terrible, isn't it?

Cris: Yeah.

 

Dan: I,

had seen this before.

Sidey: Oh, you,

Cris: Oh, did, oh, did you? Okay. No,

Sidey: It

Reegs: see, you knew what you were in for

Sidey: Sony movies. Classic

it, yeah, it comes up with, and also after a long, long time, finally some full frontal male nudity

Cris: and back

Dan: scenes. Yeah.

Cris: prison, not

Dan: good old. Don't pick up the soap shower

Cris: although individual showers, let's point out.

is not, there's not like a, like

a full

Sidey: Nice to see. But we're of course talking about 2000 nines.

Un

prophet, a prophet

Dan: French film

Sidey: prison. [00:29:00] Sure. Shank. This is not though

Reegs: crime drama directed by a guy called Jacque Oard with a screenplay by Jacque Oard Thomas

Baraga Abdel Ro Duffy and Nicholas Buffet.

And it stars Taha Raheem.

And he has gone on in a breakthrough role and he has gone on to reach the heights of Mme. Webb.

Sidey: I mean, the only way is down from there.

Yeah. Have you seen that yet? Yes. Oh, it's good, isn't it?

Reegs: mm.

Sidey: Anyhow, that's not what this is.

Reegs: it follows the story of Malik Elna.

Cris: Oh, jabana.

Reegs: He's a young French Arab from sort of inmate.

Yeah,

Dan: Yeah,

He is thrown in the clink.

Reegs: He's sent to prison. We don't really

Cris: from juvenile straight away. They, they, he's got a meeting with a lawyer and he's like, you're going with the big boys now. You are not. You turned 18.

Reegs: He's had an altercation with a police officer, is all we're told about why

Sidey: which he denies. But anyway, he's there

Cris: and he is got six years. Six

Sidey: years. Six years.

Dan: [00:30:00] A big sentence for a young man, isn't it?

Sidey: Mm.

He is very green.

Reegs: Yeah.

And it's a, you know, it's a long movie and it has a kind of episodic structure where characters and plots are introduced and it gets quite complicated towards the end, but we'll try our, our best.

But yeah, the whole bit is just him being inducted into the prison at the beginning really, isn't it?

Sidey: Yeah. He's processed his put in, he

Reegs: he slips 50 bucks into the end of his shoe.

Cris: Well, it's quite funny because it's 50

Reegs: 50 francs, yeah.

Cris: And then Euro at the end, they, at the end of the movie, they turn into euros because the, the, the transition has happened with, with anyway,

Reegs: he's stripped and checked and taken into prison and will see, he's

Cris: they find the money.

Reegs: He's got several scars all over his

Sidey: body. Yeah. So it's been whipped.

Reegs: and it's the first of several times we'll see his ass, which

Sidey: is

Reegs: so he seems quite naive really. And he's quite a wisp of a man, like barely, you know, barely got a mustache and all that sort of thing. He doesn't have anyone on the outside to send him money.

So he has to get to

Cris: outside, nor inside.

[00:31:00] When would they do the questioning? Bit At the, at the beginning he is like, are you religious? Are you, does you have anyone to put your money in your account? Do you have money? Do you have

Reegs: he's got nothing.

Cris: Are you with the Muslims? Are you in with any religion? Do you eat pork? And he's like, oh, no, no. He kind of just goes through, I'm okay with this.

I'm okay with that. He's like, do you eat pork? No.

Reegs: Yeah. So he does get to work quite quickly, I think sewing and repairing clothes in the prison workshop. But it's not long before he's mugged for his trainers by a pair of guys.

I think he tries to put up a bit of a fight.

Sidey: He goes back to beat the guy up, but he just gets the outnumbered. There's two of them and they give him a kicking.

Reegs: So life in prison is a pretty like grim place for him. But it's good to see they can't sort of, quell their inherent frenchness because they do get a whole fresh baguette

Sidey: Oh, it's

Reegs: every day deliver to,

Sidey: doesn't look all bad, is it?

Reegs: I was like, yeah, it's not all bad.

Dan: some wine, get a

Sidey: prison food looks half decent

Dan: Yeah. That's it. They

Cris: And they all get individual rooms.

So, so, so it is not, it is not like a common dorm or something like [00:32:00] that. They all get individual rooms and they get time

Sidey: I think then they say to him, we, we'll see how you go.

You might end up with a roommate or something, but, but then he doesn't, he's on his, on

his,

Dan: it's not too bad. Is it the baguette, you know, the, your own room.

Sidey: It gets pretty bad like almost immediately though.

Reegs: It really

Dan: Well he, he's yeah, he, he can't read as well. He is illiterate. I mean, yeah,

Sidey: But this

Cris: barely signs

Sidey: this is where we,

Reegs: he meets luciani. He

Sidey: see how, like, how bad it gets. But we also see when you're talking about his literacy and what his biggest strength is but he's, he's immediately sort of targeted. We see there's a gag in there, as you might imagine. There's a guy who basically runs the entire fucking prison or the wing.

And there's someone that they need oft

Cris: yeah. The Corsicans, the people from Corsica from course, they are the ones that run the prison.

Reegs: Yeah. You see Hanni go into, he's the mob boss, and he goes into the, like doctor's waiting room where he does his business. He's got a prison guard, at least one on the payroll.

Sidey: is, there's no like subtlety about

Reegs: not at all.

Sidey: it is just like, you work for us and that's that.

Dan: Yeah. they, [00:33:00] well, they can't do anything. He's,

Sidey: And it's not like, oh, here's a pack of city. He's here. It's just like fucking So in your, in your face.

Reegs: So there's this guy EB that is come in on a plea bargain. He's getting a reduced sentence 'cause he's gonna testify against these guys. And he's given a message by another gangster that will come into the story called Jackie Margie, that he's got 10 days to bump this guy off.

So

Cris: problem is with ye, he's Muslim.

Reegs: Yeah. And because that's the thing that they

Dan: he's a witness in a trial, isn't he?

Reegs: Yeah. And, and our hero, Malik he's like neither one thing nor the other. He's not quite accepted as a Muslim and he's not quite accepted as a, as a Corsican or a Frenchman because, you know, he is biracial.

His identity is somewhere in the middle and he will, you know, it sort of works against him, but he'll end up playing both sides off

Dan: Well, he bridges that kind of,

Culture, doesn't he? In the end,

Cris: because he, he does say

Dan: these

Cris: that, do you speak French? Do you speak Arabic?

Yes. Yes.

Sidey: They, this, this course goes approach [00:34:00] him and say, just like out the gate, they like, you're gonna kill this guy for us. And

once you do that, you know, we'll look after you, but

Dan: it's clear. If he doesn't they then these six years are

Sidey: try, did he try and resist once and they batter him?

Cris: tries to call the guard.

Yeah. And then he has a meeting with Luciani and the other guy, and then he beats up the other guy to be put in the hold in a like,

Sidey: and they, they show him this is how you're gonna do it, and.

It's

Cris: because the guy's gay,

Sidey: you have to fake.

Reegs: He was already, actually, EB has already made a pass at him in the shower. He is offered him weed

Sidey: Throw some hash and I'll, you can suck me off for it. Did you

Dan: you

take that

Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: I'm not that into hash, but I I take the sucking off.

Dan: Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I you'd be on the other side.

Sidey: they, they show how you're gonna do, you're gonna hide this razorblade in your cheek. Yeah. And then you're going to suck him off or make out that you're going to suck him

Reegs: you're gonna get as close as holding his balls is

Sidey: and then when the guy demonstrates how quickly he can get the razorblade from his, he is like, fucking [00:35:00] hell.

That is like a weird thing to be skillful

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: And then he, he, you see him practicing and he is constantly spitting out blood because he is obviously like lacerating the inside of his mouth with this razorblade and also freaking out that he's. Going to have to murder someone

Reegs: because he's been told, if you don't do it, we're gonna murder you

Sidey: So against his will to just like self preservation murder. Yeah. Yeah. So he's practicing this thing and this other guys, like, right now you grab my balls and dah, dah, dah. And eventually he's sort of competent enough. But that's in a,

Dan: it's a weird

Sidey: training situation

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: When it comes to actually doing it.

So eventually he does, he goes to this rev cell knocks on the door, and he lets them

Reegs: where we find out he can't read and stuff.

That's when

Sidey: Yeah. And the guy actually is being really fucking nice to him. Yeah. And he is saying, oh, you can't read. Well, you should learn to read. Fuck what else to do in here.

Like,

Cris: yeah. Go to this

program with

Sidey: yourself, get a book, learn some stuff, get some skills, do that. And you're like, oh man, it's fucking,

Reegs: And as far as he's concerned, he's having a kind of consensual thing [00:36:00] essentially, where he's gonna get sucked off for some weed. Like everybody he, you know, is, he thinks it's gonna be all happy days.

Sidey: it,

Reegs: it does not go down like

Sidey: comes to the part where he's. I'm gonna try. To kill him in the way that he's been practicing. And obviously that doesn't go well and the guy fights back and it just becomes a sort of wrestling

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. And eventually he does get the razorblades and he is been told, don't get blood on you, don't do this, do that.

And it all goes fucking terribly. And, but he does slit his throat

Reegs: and there is a fountain of blood

Sidey: blood, you know, just like a, a gush of blood all over the fucking place.

Cris: but just not on his shoes.

Sidey: doesn't get it on his shoes. He's careful. I'm, I'm like the, I'm sure that forensically, you know, anyway, the guy is dead and he washes his t-shirt and he is able to, I'm like, where the fucking guards and all this.

But anyway it.

It gets out, it gets out there.

Reegs: I think he leaves the blade in his

Sidey: He, he's told to make it look like a suicide. Suicide. And I [00:37:00] seems to me like in this prison or all prisons, they, they don't ask too many questions. There's a dead

Dan: like an Epstein kind of,

Sidey: there's a dead body, there's a weapon, there's a, you know, blah, blah, blah.

That itself, he's killed himself. That's, that's good enough for us. And

Reegs: And he goes back to his cell and he washes the blood out of his shirt.

Sidey: He's then told by them that he is now under their protection.

Reegs: Yeah. And he gets all the perks that brings like cigarettes money.

Cris: Coffee, you

Reegs: Coffee gets, does he get a TV in his cell at

Cris: Not

Sidey: no, not to, not till like

Reegs: He gets protection as

Sidey: well.

but he also starts, like Ray had told him, he starts attending classes.

We see him there and it's, there's the other guys in these classes. They're just idiots. They're just, I don't know. Yeah. Trying to pass the time. But he's. Properly studying,

Reegs: But at night he's tormented by visions of rare. He sees him in his bed with his slash throat. He

Cris: Ciggy one is good though. The one where he smokes a

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: And the

Reegs: through the

Cris: smoke comes out of his holes in the neck.

Reegs: yeah.

Cris: And that's where he makes mates with the other guy in the, in the [00:38:00] library kind of

Reegs: riyad.

Cris: yeah. With

Reegs: So he's in with the Le Corsicans, but he's basically a slave to them.

Cris: Yeah. he's a servant. Yeah.

Reegs: he, you know, he makes coffees at the lowest end of the food chain,

Cris: brings newspapers, brings the baguettes

Sidey: Caesar,

Caesar understand like Caesar's able to, he's using him obviously.

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Sidey: But he's still, I think he's like, well, you did that thing for us, or, or you were under objection. But the others don't accept him as much as Caesar does.

Reegs: they definitely don't.

Sidey: No, they definitely don't. They don't, they don't like him. He is not, he explicitly say that he's not one of

us.

Cris: while he's doing all that, he is listening and trying to learn.

And I guess you see the getting the dictionary of Corsican or like Italian. Yeah. So he's trying to replicate words of an expressions of what they're

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. We can see the point at which he can understand them fluently. Yes. And he's just sort of, I think they're playing cards and he's just there making coffee or just being around them, or he's getting shouted at, 'cause he is playing cards, but he is not constraint. He is actually listening to them and he's trying not to give it away.

Reegs: Isn't there a point as well where one of them makes a [00:39:00] joke and he laughs like and he's like giving yourself. Yeah, exactly. So, and it does become relevant because most of the gang end up getting transferred out of the prison for various reasons.

Cris: There's a decree from Sarcozi. Yeah, from the president.

Reegs: the Corsicans are sent back to Corsica essentially, and two of the, two of the gang are released early, I think from their sentences. So suddenly Lucian Lucian's gang is a bit smaller and he and Malik has to sort of take a bit more center stage

Sidey: It's also, we get introduced in one of these episodic things to another fellow. The gypsy, who's

Reegs: Yie? Is it,

Sidey: Did we ever learn his name?

The

Cris: Gypsy, I can't

Reegs: The guy who sells drugs.

Sidey: He's, he's it goes back to Giselle and he's chasing the dragon with some foil. And then the

j is, is that ge? Yeah. And they, they start, come up with this plan to actually, they can do some stuff on their own. They can get their own sort of,

Cris: no, that's what the guy says. He is like, oh, when I get outta here, when they're smoking the, he smokes the hash, the other guy smokes the, the dragon. And he's like, when I get outta [00:40:00] here, what are you gonna do?

I was like, ah, I'm gonna run kilos from Marbella or from Malaga or whatever. Oh no,

Reegs: say

Cris: Mar.

Reegs: it, it's Marse, isn't it?

Sidey: to Malaga or something?

Reegs: Because that's where he flies, isn't it?

Cris: No, no, but the, the, the gypsy says Marbella, that that's where he is gonna drive the, the drugs. It's like two, three cars. One in the middle,

Sidey: in the middle's. Got

Cris: yeah.

One is the decoy, one is the tail. Everyone in together, blah, blah, blah. And then Luciani puts him on parole.

Reegs: Well, it's more he, right.

First of all, he sort of, he gets more tr like trust in the organization by becoming Lucian's eyes and ears. He tells him who's doing drug deals, who's beating

Sidey: who. Well that's when he reveals that he can speak the, the

Reegs: Exactly. So that's, and then after that it gets revealed that he's like so far into his sentence that he can apply for leave days.

Sidey: Yeah. He can do work release.

Reegs: Yeah. So, Charnis like, right, I'm onto that. You can help me do business on the outside. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: They set him up with a fake, it's a garage, isn't it? Where he'll just sign off that he is been there all day. But in reality [00:41:00] he

Cris: And his mate's already out. Now

Reegs: re adds out 'cause he had testicular cancer.

Yeah. And you see his life in like a little microcosm. 'cause he goes off, he goes down straight, works as a telemarketer, gets married, has a kid and

Sidey: makes mate the Godfather, doesn't

Cris: he?

does. Yeah.

Sidey: the, to the kid. Yeah.

Reegs: yeah. And he introduces him to these two other guys, Tarik and Hassan from from the, what are they called?

The Rebe? Yeah. Prison population. It's like the

Arab

Dan: the, the, the Muslim.

Reegs: make contact in the Muslim thing, so he does get let out. And it was one of my favorite sequences of the movie. 'cause you're probably an hour and a half in at this point. And he comes out and suddenly you see the color of the world.

It's just all been gray

Cris: Yeah. Yeah. And you see the sun and green

Reegs: it's just mundane stuff. Like he's looking at crisp packets in a vending machine I think or something.

Cris: when he goes to supermarket.

The way they're, they're put on the shelf and everything is colorful. Yeah. Whereas everything was gray and almost not black and white, but almost like CPI just

Dan: Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: And he bins off getting a blowjob just so he can feel the sand in his feet. [00:42:00] just one more time. 'cause he

Cris: That's a bit later though,

Yeah. He first he goes to rescue the, the guy from the,

Reegs: Oh yes. The first

Cris: time he meets the lawyer. It is a bit ambiguous until he gets to the house. What he actually has to do, because I actually thought he was a drug bus. Or a, sorry, a drug deal. And he just drops the suitcase full of money. That's right. And then the, the, the

Reegs: they bring a buyer out, don't

Cris: they bring the guy out and is one of the former mates in prison. Yeah. And the lawyer comes and he is like, oh, can you make your way by yourself? And then he goes back to prison, makes it on time. But that's when he kind of walks through the supermarket and is all in awe of the colors and then again, goes to prison.

But meanwhile, he has made connections with another guy inside that tells him where he hid the hash In a petrol station.

Yeah.

Sidey: They'd had a, a, a thing go badly wrong. And one of the guys has run off with a, basically a carrier bag full of hash. Yeah. [00:43:00] Stashed it in a ceiling. Toilet. In a public toilet. Yeah. And then run off and then got arrested. So that's like the,

Cris: Kind of sitting

Sidey: there, the buried treasure to

Reegs: They know there's several kilos of like

Cris: and he goes to and he goes to his mate and he's like, look, this is what we're gonna do. Cut that in, sell it. You keep the money. We split the money and with the money, go down to Marbella and you do exactly what the gypsy told him.

Yeah. This is how you do it. You go speak to these guys, da da, da. And then we intro get introduced to Ibrahim, the Egyptian. Yeah. Who basically stops them and not in a nice way and kidnaps his guy from outside while he's in prison. They found out, find out who he's related to through the Muslim connection.

Yeah. And he is like, who does Zebra him know is in prison? This guy. Okay. Well and they attack him in the shower with a soap, is it soap in

Sidey: Yeah. They got like full metal jacket on it. And no batteries and all sorts

Cris: battery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like all sorts in the

Sidey: sauce palm of them. Yeah. And then

Cris: And then they, they

Sidey: they've had outside [00:44:00] world, they've had their guys get his family. Yeah.

Reegs: show them pictures of his mother.

Sidey: the Yeah.

It says if you want to see them alive again,

you're gonna,

Dan: it, it, it is a classic that in the socket, I remember first watching it in Scum where they put the yeah. Ray Winston. Yeah. The pool balls. Yeah. In this sock.

Reegs: So anyway, he's had this whole thing going on, right? Oh, they, they, yeah. He's got this whole enterprise going

Cris: and

now they go to Mae. Now he goes to Mae on the second,

Reegs: yeah.

Cris: trip and that's when he gets instructed by Luciani to say, I'm willing to do a deal with this guy for the casinos because

Reegs: LA trash.

Cris: Yeah. Because in the Corsicans and the southern community of Mae, they run casinos in the southern France.

Yeah. That's how they make the money.

Sidey: he's by Caesar sort of said to him, you know, you stick with me and then once you get out of you'll, you'll get a casino or you'll get something.

We haven't really talked much about Caesar 'cause he is a scary, fucking intimidating dude.

Reegs: Yeah. [00:45:00]

Sidey: You know, and he's, when he, he finds out that this racket is going on. What does he get? He gets him in the eye with a spoon. I think he just pushes it into his eye and he's fucking, then he is, you see him in the mirror, like looking at his eye.

It was all completely red and like bloodshot on his, I think he cries in bed after that. You know, 'cause he's, fucking scary, fucking intimidating dude. That's, and there's not much to look at him. No. It's just the, the power that he has and the control he has in that prison. But it's starting to fade actually a

Cris: And it's also, you, you get to see that there's actually someone else calling the show that Ji Yeah. He

tells

the

prison guard who is also Corsican to pass a message to Luciani to say what he should do.

Bump the Arab guy, do this, go arrange the meeting with LA trash. And then

Reegs: well, that's the way, isn't it?

That that happens? Because Luciani is punishing him, basically because he's like, got more influence now and doing his own thing. He sets him up to go and see this guy Lare, who, [00:46:00] who knew EB and was an associate of EB and is bitter towards the Ling Gary family or whatever they're called. That's the other side of it.

And towards Charney. So he holds him at gunpoint, doesn't he? Yeah. And this is where, 'cause he's already had a vision about some deer Yeah. Running

Sidey: That's right. Yeah. And

Reegs: as he's being driven along at

Sidey: he shouts, he sees the sign on the road and he shouts. Animals.

Dan: and, well, this is where the, the prophet kind of comes in, isn't it? Where he's seen in a dream about a deer.

Yeah. And he kind of calls it out that

Sidey: it's fierce the way that it fucking hits. And then he see it slow motion to like in the air, fucking ages.

Reegs: Yeah. So it's only because he shouts out about the deer that they're able to avoid death. So it sort of carries favor with them.

Next thing you see, they're, they're washing the carcass in the sea, aren't they? That's where you see him with the sun. Yes. And the sand his feet. So,

Cris: and he makes it back late to prison because that's when the guy tells him you're half an hour late. And he has like, he goes under the wheel and puts [00:47:00] Vaseline and shit on him.

He is, oh, I've been working on cars all day. What do you mean? Oh, it's only half an hour. Please boss, whatever. And the guy's like, okay, this time I'll let you off, but

Reegs: he knows there's no, there's not another time and that'll come into it. So, basically this Margi guy Hanni decides that there's too much bother with him down in Marse.

He wants to have him assassinated. And he sends Oh, he's

Cris: no, he's in Paris.

Reegs: In, in Paris. Yeah. And he sends

Cris: we tries to arrange the meeting with, what's the guy's name out on the outside? The, the guy with the cancer.

Reegs: Riyadh

Cris: Riyad. Yeah. With Riyadh, he's,

Dan: but his cancer's come back.

Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. His cancer has come back, but he's trying to get these other, his crew members to get to shoot to Mark Aji, but they're just a bit not, they're not really into it.

And they don't like the Corsican guy telling them what to do and how to do the one with the hair.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: And they all kind of have that meeting in prison where they kind of all go together and he speaks in Arabic to Ria. Then it's like, I'm gonna slap you. [00:48:00] Don't do a mo, don't move, don't do anything. I have to show that I'm controlling you.

Reegs: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cris: gonna kill them all. And, and

Reegs: So, but we don't know exactly how, and he sent

Cris: or who

Reegs: this job or who really? Yeah. To get Mark Haddie and it's gonna be like a, a broad daylight.

Sidey: Yeah.

It's brutal.

Reegs: like, it's really

Cris: and it's one of them that they, they clearly had a setup in their mind, like the bodyguard goes out, then he opens the door, then he goes out.

That's our moment.

Reegs: They've

watched him for ages to be fair. But then the guy fucks it up by going to go and get Ziggy's and then like the moment is starting to pass and they've started to commit to it and it all gets a bit amateurish

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: all that.

And Malik now suddenly finds himself they, he's already double crossed Lu Chaney's guy on the outside.

Cris: because he's got him tied in the van.

Reegs: got him tied up in the van, and then he goes to go and get Margi and it turns into like a fucking blood bath. There's, he shoots the guy, the driver first, and his body falls on him.

And as more shots are fired, it goes

Sidey: to human shields,

Reegs: complete silence. And he's looking up through the [00:49:00] sunroof at the sky and

Cris: coming through.

Sidey: You can just see the guy on top of him just getting shot again and again and again.

And eventually it's like, well do or die. And he kind of flips him off and pops up and just bang, bang. I

Reegs: kills

Cris: he, he,

Sidey: I think kill

Cris: ji down and he just shoots the two around

Sidey: body guys

Reegs: drags. Mark Hadji out and puts him in

Sidey: the, they have said that this time he will be late back. Yeah. And that will be whole time.

And he is like, that's fine. It'll all be getting fucking,

Dan: well

Cris: they're all gonna turn on each other.

Dan: it, well, it, it suits him, doesn't it? 'cause he is outta touch then he can't be touched because he is in the hole while it's all kind of Yeah.

While it's all kicking off in inside the prison, he's outta reach, also.

Reegs: left Mark Hadji alive and he tells him, I came here under the

Sidey: orders

I was told to come and kill you,

Reegs: come and kill you by this guy. So he knows that he set one crime family up against the other. So then he does go back to prison.

He, he takes another day, doesn't he? And he sits, sits and eats dinner with RHID and his [00:50:00] family.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: and then he goes back the next day,

Sidey: just him jog, jogging around the, straight

Reegs: into

the hole for 40 days. Yeah.

Sidey: jogging around the cells, like thinking This is great.

Dan: Well, R R's not gonna do the chemo, is he's just gonna, he, he's terminal and and then they, he makes promises to look after his family and things.

Reegs: So he's

gone from being as

Cris: godparent, right? As a

Sidey: godfather,

Dan: As

Reegs: as a godfather. And he has now really gone from Puppet to Puppet Master Malik. And because now Lui's, what, what is left of his, like you said, the, there's not a lot left, but what was left of it is all LT by Mark Hadi's. Guys

Sidey: You see the the guy, the prison guy get arrested? Yeah. Caesar comes over 'cause he is was at this point or was it before this when he's now he's just with all the Arabs in prison.

Reegs: this is now pretty much the end.

Sidey: and and Caesar sort of looks over at him and sort of like beckons him over and he just stares back at him like what

Reegs: Lija He's got nothing And he's now with the Arab population.

'cause there was a subplot about, he gave them a

Cris: the imam, they gave the money to the

Sidey: Iman.

He [00:51:00] walks, he walks over and he is just filled in. He is just filled in as he tries to approach all the Arabs. And he, and he is like, you're done mate. That's it.

Reegs: Yeah.

And really his journey to kingpin is virtually complete. And we'll see that really on the day of his release when Riyadh's wife and 'cause Riyadh's died.

Cris: Yeah. He died and the wife and the kid are waiting for him. And there's three cars on the side,

Reegs: full of gang bangers to protect him as he goes. Because

Cris: and then you can see him just kind of saying to them, just like the sign with the hand, just stay behind.

We're gonna take the bus. And because obviously the wife of, of Riyadh is, is there and she's like, oh, did you take the bus? Oh, there's another one in one hour. Okay, let's just go for a walk. And he just kind of tells there's three cars behind

Reegs: just follow him

And we just follow, I think the camera just like stays on his eyes I think as it sort of zooms in as he walks off.

And we've seen his journey basically from like juvenile delinquent to gang boss. Like brutal.

Sidey: All through the power of education.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: Well the, the back home they call prison [00:52:00] university. So, I dunno how they call it in England, but apparently there is a, a,

thing to it looks of it.

Dan: There was gonna be a remake a little bit later on with Russell Crowe. And but he got canceled around COVID time because this was a big hit

Sidey: just watch this. Just like, don't need a remake, just watch

Dan: it's a bit like the, the departed and, and you got infernal affairs.

Sidey: was the one we watched that was nothing like same story, but the French one with the guy at

Reegs: Yeah. In Isha. But in

Cris: Oh, into Shaler?

Sidey: they read say No, just watch the

Cris: Yeah. And the original one is good enough. You just get, stick to That is fine.

Dan: But I really like this. This is you know, really gritty. It's, it's obviously got that, that forefront of nudity we all love.

But as far as you know, prison stories go and rags to riches if you like. And people coming from, from nothing to, to rise up through the ranks in the, in the [00:53:00] time and the way he did it. Yeah. I really like this. It's really good, good actors in it, you know, the,

Sidey: especially our, our lead considering this is like a breakout role, you know, exceptional performance. I thought. It is sort of,

there's no,

these guys, they are all villains, right?

Yeah. And it's the sort of stuff we were talking about last week and it's

Dan: anti-hero

Sidey: You're rooting for someone who's just executing someone in

Cris: is not the nice, he is not a

Sidey: in the middle of the day, you know, in a fucking Paris street or whatever it is.

Dan: And he's the good guy.

Sidey: And

this's the guy you're rooting for.

These are all fucking assholes really? Yeah. But you're still at end happy for him.

Reegs: It's a brutal story and it has a lot to say about the prison system and the things that that does to people and about rehabilitation, but full of great performances like we all said, and the direct little, like flourishes of direction, but nothing too show showy, offy sometimes having a kind of like a lot of handheld work that was very documentary

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. I, I did like the way it was filmed in certain [00:54:00] times where it is very close to camera and it's almost moving and when, when there's scuffles or stuff like that with close proximity that you don't really have a, a vantage point. It's more like moving and a little bit in, in the action.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: And as we pointed out the, the actual.

View that is quite bleak and dark until he, he goes out and then that extra color again, that, that comes into it. Because you, you're very, until that happens, you're not even really, you know, it just blends in with the, the film and then you, you notice it. And it's that difference between obviously prison life and

and

Cris: being outside.

Dan: being, being outside.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, 'cause that a big theme in the movie is how prison like, you know, doesn't allow people to improve or it's certainly these types of prisons with

Dan: Well, it's, a, I mean, it's a nightmare for him straight away, isn't it? I mean, he's. He's got no chance. He's between a rock and a hard place.

He's gonna be killed [00:55:00] or, or killed. And and he's obviously got a conscience because he's thinking about, you know, the, the dreams that he has and everything about the people. he's fucked up. And the, the, the guy that he killed

Reegs: they don't explore the profit ness of it that much, even though he should.

I mean, he has visions a couple of times

Dan: No, it, it doesn't go fully supernatural or anything, does

Reegs: And I don't think there is any of that. But they don't explore, I dunno, maybe I missed something

Dan: but, but I, I think that's all it needs. You know, it just, just a little bit. And then it's actually people that, that will say, oh, he's, he saw the deer is coming.

It's a prophet. You know? And then that itself becomes

The myth, the story. There isn't really any truth in those things. There is, you know, maybe it's a gut feeling. Maybe it's, it's a thing that happens, but it's not more than that. It's only when people start to say, and then they believe and somebody tells somebody, and somebody tells somebody else, and [00:56:00] all of a suddenly become these normal men or these, you know, become bigger than actually they are.

And that's how he's allowed to leave prison.

Reegs: And it sounds

Dan: as, as, as a, yeah. As, as a, as a person. Don't

Sidey: a profit, don't be a profit.

Dan: Yeah, Well, he is allowed to leave prison with So you say just a, a hand there, you stay back commanding people who otherwise before would've, you know,

Cris: well

they didn't expect accept

Dan: ready. Yeah.

Would, would've been beating him up and everything. And in those six years, whatever it is in jail, he's, he's changed it.

Reegs: think he looked a little bit like a young ml Arta

Sidey: No,

Reegs: a little bit. Can you see any of that? Solid

Dan: Yeah,

Cris: Yeah, great hair, but, I dunno. I like this. It was maybe a tiny bit too long. I, it, it could have been maybe 20 minutes shorter, I would say. It, it, I I understand. I I did like it and, and you know, I did stay awake for the whole of it, which is [00:57:00] almost a miracle.

But

Sidey: Do, do you wanna know the financials for it?

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: it cost 13 million US dollars to make. I think that's quite a lot. Alright. Okay. Well I was, I I was sort of surprised by that. So what do you think it

Dan: well is is surprising because you, the actors, again, you're not. Think in their box office

Sidey: no Brad

Dan: this? No.

I think it

money,

but it made money. Surely. Yeah,

Cris: it was the Grand Prix at can.

Dan: I reckon

Sidey: it was the

Reegs: it won a Grand Prix.

Dan: I reckon it's 80. 80

mil.

Sidey: 80 mil. Eight 18 is what it made. But it was also nominated for the best foreign language film at 2010 Academy Awards.

Reegs: Losing out two.

Sidey: The Hobbit, I dunno,

Reegs: it the hop? It.

Sidey: I dunno. But

Dan: the Hobbit

Sidey: I think 30 mil, it seems quite expensive. 30 mil to me. I dunno why I think that, but it did make money, so that's good. Yeah. I thought it was excellent. Really, really good.

Reegs: And they all went on to do big things like Mme.

Sidey: I know

Dan: what is Mme. Webb?

Cris: There's a few actors

that I've,

Sidey: spider-Man film with No, with no Spider-Man content.

Yeah.

Cris: There's a few actors [00:58:00] that I've seen in the prison and in the kind of thing that I've seen in a few other French movies in the one that we've done for the pod, which I think I recommended Where it's like a, something in Marse where there's cops

Sidey: Oh yeah, yeah.

Reegs: stronghold back

Cris: yeah, yeah, yeah. That there's a couple of them that were in this one that they're Were they more? Yeah, yeah. That they're more in this one, they're more just like in prison, in and around in the, in the Ian community and in the in the back north they, the main characters, one of the police officers is one of the Micron guys in this one.

Definitely because I remember him.

Reegs: See, I, that movie bothered me for its betrayal of Muslims. Really? And this one is a much more like, even though he's still criminal,

Sidey: but he,

Reegs: you, you understand his journey. He comes from nothing. And yeah, I dunno.

More nuanced, take on similar stuff.

Sidey: For me, this is a strong recommend.

Cris: Yeah. I, I like this. I like this was

Reegs: Strong.

Dan: strong.

Sidey: It

would've

been Riggs to [00:59:00] nominate, but he's selfishly not around next week. So

Dan: Where are you going? What are you doing? Who are you?

Reegs: my nephew's getting married. I saw that child

Cris: Oh yeah, Yorkshire.

Sidey: You were there when he was Well in the room.

Reegs: No, not in the room.

Dan: Oh,

Reegs: No. Disappointing.

Cris: isn't it? Is it in Yorkshire?

Reegs: It's in Scarborough.

Dan: Ah, nice. Okay. Well it is, it is good. This time of

Sidey: Silent and Garfunkel Town

Reegs: scars.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: is that,

Dan: that Scarborough

Cris: that Yorkshire or

Dan: and Scarborough Fair

Sidey: north, isn't it?

Reegs: No, north

Sidey: Northeast.

Cris: but it's not, it's not like the to

Reegs: No,

Sidey: It's not a million miles

Dan: not, it's not a million miles away. It's north, Northeast, yeah.

Cris: Okay.

Oh, so you are in the best part of the world.

Dan: That'd be a good laugh

Sidey: Well, what he is not is, is available for podcasts. So Bigs will defer his nominations to the week after. I will nominate for next week. It's Business week.

Dan: okay. Right. Oh,

Reegs: it's business. It's

Cris: Big

Sidey: we will be watching

Danny

Dyer the business.

Reegs: Oh,

Dan: Didn't we do that once?

Sidey: No, me and you watched it. Oh,

Dan: Oh, [01:00:00] we right,

Sidey: okay. But we didn't numb it.

Cris: And what else?

Sidey: Top five businesses.

And something else that I'll find

Cris: what? Danny Dyer. The last one. The,

Dan: No. So it is, it is called the

business.

Sidey: It's called the business.

Cris: But we can watch the marching powder as well.

Sidey: No, I don't wanna watch that one. Dan di Film a week is enough. And I'll find something else. All that remains is to say society signing out

Reegs: Reese has left the building.

Cris: Lot of it

Dan: in Dan's gone

Sidey: still in the building

Dan: still here. What's he talking about?