Anatomy of a Fall

Anatomy of a Fall

Dan: Clever intro here.

Cris: Yes. Welcome to Bad Dancing Review the show that is to aliens, what humans are to pigs. Now let's introduce the dads, starting with Dan. He's so old that he invented sparkling water followed by Chris.

Sidey: Chris hates long

movies,

Cris: He

has the attention span of a mollusk and he hates long movies.

Ha ha. And also the sady, who previously, before we started the show, told me that he used to try to wank a frog, but it never found his dick. So there you go. And there's rigs in the new forest picking strawberries.

Sidey: sent us that all the way from the new forest, didn't he? That was very

Cris: Yeah.

I hope, I hope this is doing him justice, but this is off the top of my head.

Dan: Another good one. Yeah, he's picking mushrooms for a Wellington. He's gonna make in in the new forest.

Cris: Well, there's good venison in the new forest. I dunno if you're allowed to hunt at this

Dan: Barry venison. No,

Sidey: No,

I,

I think,

I think that would be frowned, I don't think his kids would be.

it's

a horsey

themed holiday. So Anything [00:01:00] cloven, hoofed, I think.

they're not gonna wanna be

doing

Dan: Right. Okay. Well

Cris: we don't tell them.

Sidey: No, that's true.

Dan: Hopefully he's having a, fabulous time as you are. Whatever you are doing out there in podcast world. We are talking about the falls.

Sidey: It's fall week. Yeah, we did mission Lon Impossible hyphen fallout for our midweek.

I wasn't here last week.

I was, I I was

Cris: weren't, yeah. You were

Sidey: very well.

No, I wasn't very Well, the day off work, so I

couldn't really,

Cris: you went, you went Friday night for a curry and then you

Sidey: just Did I,

Cris: Did I? Yes. You told me.

So you doing and done.

Dan: me

Cris: Friday. The previous

Sidey: Friday.

yeah. I'm trying to think about it. this is such a long time ago. Did I go

Dan: Did I go for a Curry review?

Cris: No.

he, he, he, he, I don't think you know Dan anyway.

Sidey: Oh. No, I played golf.

Cris: Oh, so you

Sidey: It

was a golf date. God, funny you mentioned it. 'cause we won that.

And then, yeah, I just wasn't very well on the Monday, anyhow it did give the, the opportunity to watch a few movies.

Dan: Well, I wasn't very well the Monday before that and now Res isn't here this [00:02:00]

Cris: Hopefully he as well.

Dan: It's your turn next. week.

Cris: No, because next week is my birthday, so let's not

Sidey: Happy birthday.

to Yeah, Not yet.

I did watch a few movies if you want

to know.

I watched Come on,

ballerina. which is From the John Wick universe. I thought it was only

Cris: Who is the, the

Yeah,

Sidey: it's Anna. Amis. Yes.

Cris: Yes. Yeah, I was

Sidey: say, who, who we

saw in

fist of hands of Fists. Yeah. Which which I enjoyed. I didn't get to talk about it 'cause I wasn't here, but I did enjoy.

that. Especially enjoyed the Anna at Arm content

Ballerina five, out 10. It's only, okay. I also watched something else, which I can't remember. So, there we go. That's good.

Dan: There you go. Yeah. Top stuff. I, watched the End of murder bot, which is the Apple series,

No, it kind of fizzled out, I guess.

But it wasn't bad. It didn't maybe promise as much as I'd hoped it would deliver from the opening.

Sidey: Okay.

Dan: Three or four episodes, but quite enjoyed it still. And there were short enough episodes.

Sidey: [00:03:00] Yeah,

Dan: it

Cris: Yeah. It's what the longest ones are half an hour, something like that. No,

Dan: that's

Cris: That's, you can get behind that. I have only watched one thing. I watched a bit of the football, I watched the Wimbledon final, the, the,

I watched,

Sidey: Oh Sad

Cris: I watched the first Italian to win the, the gentleman's old

Sidey: Drugs Cheat Drugs. Cheat. Fuck him.

Cris: I'm just saying

Dan: Skinner wouldn't it?

Sidey: Frank Skinner. Yeah. I, I am, I'm Team Araz. I don't like that Drugs cheat. I didn't

want him to win.

Cris: I, I like Alka more, but it was a good

Sidey: game. They're good games when they play each other.

They are.

Cris: was a good game. It was great tennis

Sidey: better than the women's final.

Cris: I would, yeah, of course

double

Sidey: bagel, that's not great.

Cris: I

would say the, the Wimbledon

Sidey: Wimbledon won

by two drugs, cheats. So there you go

Cris: is the best is the best one out of all of them.

The grand slams. And also it brings me the memories from when I used to listen to women I can see for a few weeks, two years ago. So it's quite interesting and quite nice to always be able to see the green grass. But I have watched one thing in the world of TV and [00:04:00] film and it is I think you talked about this before.

There's something on Netflix called Department Q. Yeah, I've watched the first episode

Sidey: getting a lot of love at work as well. That

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: I like the guy that's playing the, the policeman. I've seen him in some movie before, I can't remember in which the, the, yeah, we

Dan: with that and did the whole

Cris: Oh, did you watch the whole thing?

I like the fact that except for him, everyone is Scottish and they all speak with like a proper Scottish accent. So I quite, I quite like that because I think it's quite funny, even if they don't intend to be funny. I like the Scottish accent. I, I, I dunno why I think Scott, I just think it's funny when people speak with a Scottish accent.

Dan: Yeah. well they've got a good sense of humor. to Scott generally. Yeah. And

Cris: so I'm curious to, to kind of go through that. Is it what, 12 episodes

or

Dan: don't even think as Many as that?

Maybe? Yeah, it might be a 10

Cris: I'm I'm, I'm gonna stick to that, but I didn't really have time and because the weather's been so nice, I prefer to go to the beach and go for a swim or something rather than watch anything else.

Sidey: I've been,

Watching the Netflix tour, de France. [00:05:00] Documentary series. I really like that.

Cris: Oh, right. Also, Al also, also, sorry to interrupt. I've watched a documentary made by the British Broadcasting corporation on Han Zimmer Okay.

Yeah. Which is really good. I, I didn't know that. I knew he's done the score for, and I know you are a friend of his, but I didn't know, I didn't know he's done that much.

But he is

Sidey: prolific. Yeah. unbelievable.

Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: Jesus Christ. What a guy. I didn't, I didn't know, but honestly, and, and low budget, I, I like the fact that when, I can't remember the guy's name. He, he's like Steve McQueen, but not that one. He's like a

Sidey: director.

Cris: Yeah, the director. He did some like cheap budget movie and he didn't have the courage to approach Hanzi Zi.

I went to him. He's like, I, I can do this for you. Don't worry. It's like, why didn't you call me? Why do you wanna rip me off? He's like, you know, but you know, I thought you want No, no. I'll, I'll do that. I'll, I'll call these. You know, incredible musicians that will do it live

Sidey: if, if he likes the project. he'll happy to work on it. It's not,

Cris: I

Sidey: it's not just about

Cris: Great, great, great guy. [00:06:00] Yeah, it was not really nice documentary, so.

Dan: Okay. Well that sounds quite cool. The other thing I've been watching is Jack Irish, I may have mentioned that before. It's an Australian detective

Sidey: Oh,

Cris: you

said that? Yeah, I

Dan: Yeah, I remember with Guy Pierce.

Sidey: Okay, good.

Dan: Yeah, really good. really good. It's on ITVI think you can catch up.

He's, done two feature length films with his character and there's two or three series as well.

Sidey: I've never heard of it.

Dan: and it's Yeah. it's a Good

Cris: one. Do we

Dan: only thing is, Sorry. only thing is, is the adverts just

Sidey: You can't skip 'em on

Dan: can't skip 'em. You are gonna watch 'em the editing of when they just cut. Just, It's, like

what you, what you doing, putting an

Sidey: it's because they'll, it'll be ai, they'll Just, they'll just automate that so there's not someone. Finding a sensible place to put it. It'll just chuck it in. it's annoying.

Dan: just four, five

Sidey: And of course we've been enjoying the YouTube sensation. That is Christopher Collect. [00:07:00]

One. Oh

Cris: Oh my God.

Sidey: got one out tonight. We can watch it after this. Two pound coins. Well,

Dan: Well, there,

there was something else I started watching as well have find it was this guy who made a a round, it's like a

effectively a small bowling ball out of mud and they just polish it and they get it really, really shiny.

Yeah. This is, this as interesting as that sounds.

Cris: How long did you watch this video for?

Dan: It was, It was a quick one. It was, It was like Two hours.

Sidey: something. But I was thinking about,

Christopher Collects and I was thinking we could do that the next big tournament with the panini stick ram. We could do us

getting the Pax and not filling.

it.

Dan: we should do that. Yeah,

Sidey: percent. Giving away all ideas for free here, but we should definitely do that.

Dan: Well, you know, we've obviously built up a, a strong base here So people are gonna just tune into that. Yeah, that it's Yona. And friends who come round we were watching it I just put it on and they were like, what is this?

And then after a while everybody started watching go, oh, look at [00:08:00] that one. Oh yeah, yeah. I remember I had a

Sidey: I'm starting to recognize him as soon as he brings me out, I'm like, oh, it's that's the union. Oh, abolition slavery.

Dan: Yeah. Found a Q Gardens, didn't he?

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: you told me he found a cute gardeners.

He'd been after that one for a while

Sidey: I think there was only 900,000 'cause I was watching it. He said

there's 900,000.

For some reason the order got canceled. 'cause I dunno why. So some had made out in circulation, but it's the lowest minted In circulation. And If you find one, it's worth, it could be worth about

200 quid.

Dan: Wow. And I'm sure the jersey ones were worth like two pound 50.

Sidey: Yeah. And I, don't, I'm sure I believe that. 'cause if you just stockpile load and took 'em over, to the uk, you're not gonna double your money,

Dan: not gonna

Sidey: Anyhow, should we crack on with full week?

Dan: Yeah. Let's do

Cris: Come on.

Dan: So we're gonna have a load of films about falls. Yes. But first I've got a quiz.

Cris: Oh my God.

Dan: Okay. There, obviously, this was built for three or even four people. So now that there's just two of you you're gonna have to make a, a sound I guess. Okay. Could you, could you just gimme your, your, your

Sidey: I'm [00:09:00] falling,

Dan: Nice. Okay. Right. So, in, in the spirit of of fall then it's, it's fall or fool. Okay. Okay. And it's a foreign language quiz because our film this week is a foreign language

Sidey: Sure Is.

Dan: So I'm going to ask you

Sidey: Chris, giving it a little

Dan: I'm gonna ask you a, a few questions here. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna ask you a few questions here and you are just gonna tell me, is it.

fall or is it fall?

Sidey: Okay.

Cris: Mean? Like true or false or what?

Dan: You got one that means fall. Like as in fall down. Yeah. And the other one is fall as in stupid

Cris: fool.

Dan: Yeah. so I'm gonna tell you the word. Let's, let's see.

Cris: Are you sure English is your first language?

Dan: Nobody said this. I'm not sure what my first language is.

But what does pka mean? Is it full in Japanese? Is it fool in Japanese? Is it full in Hindi or is it fool in [00:10:00] Hindi?

Sidey: Ah,

falling fool. In Hindi

Cris: Japanese

something.

Dan: Well, you're right, but you didn't do that, eh? So um, oh no, it's too late Now if I've gotta remind you of this every time. It's gonna be a long old quiz. It's full in Japanese That,

Sidey: Sounds a

Cris: I get 0.5 points for

Dan: says No, because you're gonna whip through these. And, and So far you're nil, nil.

I love the whip. If somebody says Anka in Swahili, did something fall or did someone act like a fool?

Cris: Ah, act like a fool.

Dan: No,

it means fall in Swahili. Done all for you. Nice. Right.

Sidey: This is tense. isn't it?

Dan: Your friends shout. Nah, in German. Are they warning you about a fall or calling you a fall?

Sidey: falling.

They're warning you about a fall.

Dan: No, they're calling you a fool.

Sidey: We're gonna

get one of these

Cris: No, nil. That is amazing.

Dan: They know right? [00:11:00] In Spanish. If you hear,

Tonto,

are you

being called a

Cris: stupid or silly?

Dan: It means fall in Spanish. It's one nil to Chris?

Sidey: Wait, you got that wrong?

Dan: Tonto means fall in Spanish. Yeah, that's, we'll listen back to VR when we go on this, but

Sidey: trying, I was trying to, trying to mind game you,

Dan: if a Russian says Pada, should you check your shoe laces or your iq?

Ah,

Cris: shoe laces.

Dan: That's right.

Sidey: Oh, it is unassailable lead, I think

Dan: in Russian, No, No, we, we are only on six. We've got 42 of these.

Sidey: Yeah, No,

Dan: we, we've, we've still got a few more though.

Sidey: Okay. Okay. I need to get back in

Dan: in French. What does Tom Bay mean?

Sidey: Ah, I'm falling full fall

Bollocks. Oh.

Dan: So I was gonna give you fall, fall both, or Neva.

And it is a fall. If you hear Dmek in Turkish, are you [00:12:00] about to hit the ground or make a silly mistake,

Cris: eh, silly.

Dan: No, you are about to hit the ground. Oh.

If somebody calls you Apal in Turkey, is it a compliment or an insult?

Sidey: It is.

The You're full,

Dan: I'm gonna take it. It is an insult. Yes. it is an Insult. It does mean fall in

Sidey: oh two one.

Dan: knows his Turkish everything in there. Now

Cris: iss delight this

Dan: we've got, love this guy. We've got three to go in Hindi. What does mu mean? Does it mean fall, fall? Both. or type of

Cris: eh, type of bread?

Dan: No, you are full. Or this was full.

Yeah. If a Mandarin speaker says,

sha,

are they describing a clumsy person or a

Sidey: citizen? Ah, falling. a clumsy person?

Damn it.

Dan: a silly person. You've got [00:13:00] two to go. So you could

Cris: well there were three. There were three, two

Dan: Well, There you

Cris: were three, two questions ago.

Dan: There, there. Well this, There are only 12. You over here circuit in Arabic.

Is there something dropping or is someone being a clown

calling,

Sidey: A clown

or the other one?

Dan: means a fall, I'm afraid. yes. And, and so this is the last one you could pull even if you get it right,

it's

Sidey: Have you got a tiebreaker?

Dan: Do I look a fool

In Korean? What? You are very confident, aren't you?

Yeah, I like that. I like the way you're going into it in Korean. What, and I'll get this pronunciation absolutely spot on. Mean

is it fall? Is it

Sidey: Falling Is a dance

Dan: move? Is it a new K-pop group?

Sidey: What

was the,

Dan: is it a fall?

Sidey: It's a fall.

Dan: It is a

Sidey: Ooh. We're going

Dan: into a bonus round of lightning

Cris: Oh my

Sidey: goodness. Oh my God.

We have to,

Dan: Okay. You're gonna shout out the answer as fast as you can on this [00:14:00] one. We're just gonna go onto the, the, the loudest one, you don't have to use your buzzers.

Sidey: Okay. Okay. So sudden death. this,

Dan: just sudden death. It's gonna be full or

Sidey: Yes.

Dan: Okay. Babo

It is full. It is Korean, of course.

I could have given you the re.

Sidey: I've literally

never been as happy. Perfect.

Dan: That

would've been, that would've been some other thing. And there'd have been other stuff. But yes,

Sidey: Oh,

Cris: Sidey

Sidey: Color me. Delighted. What a What, a win.

You

Dan: fell out on top.

You fell out on top.

Sidey: just try and keep your head up.

stand. Try not to get too Despondent for the rest, of the,

pod.

Cris: I might, I might go and put my hand out in the cold plunge tomorrow.

Dan: Well, I think we all need,

Sidey: hopefully they've rinsed it out because

Dan: we all just need a break and, and to cool down for a second. don't we Quite the, Quite the quite the quiz.

Sidey: I am so happy. So, so happy to have won that from the brink of defeat as well. I really had

Dan: was looking really, really shaky. the, the quiz. Chris, [00:15:00] don't Tell me you've already

Sidey: Chris has thrown the towel in for the rest of the pod.

Dan: doesn't want to hear anything.

Cris: I am like Roberto Duran. No mass.

Dan: No mass, no

mass,

Sidey: Right. This, let's get into the nitty gritty of our top five.

Falls

You could take, You could have

a literal one.

Dan: Okay.

Sidey: you could have a metaphorical fall, right. Like a fall from grace. Or can

Cris: then we actually have a fallout as well when people fall out.

Sidey: Yeah. I didn't even think of that.

yeah. Yeah, you can absolutely have that. Why don't you, what

Have you got one? Have you got a fallout?

Cris: Well, think about one while we're

Sidey: okay.

Dan: Okay. Well I'll I'll start then. Because I've got one which is actually a bit of a legendary fall. It's Legends of the Fall. Oh

Sidey: Brad. done

we did it po Yeah. for so hot in this film.

Cris: Is he like a cowboy type

Sidey: It's

the brothers.

Cris: Yeah,

Dan: He, he is

Cris: that. It's quite, it's quite like what, nineties, early two thousands? Something like that. S

Sidey: I'd say it's he's got long hair in this one on a horse horseback. Yeah.

Dan: And [00:16:00] he ends

Cris: on a horse.

Dan: He ends up falling in love with his brother's wife. His brother dies, I think.

Sidey: That was handy.

Dan: And yeah, he, he kind of ends up with the wife, but his other brother likes her as well. Quite obsessed And yeah, Anthony there to be fair, there's not many, many other girls to choose from where they live in the middle of bloody Nowhere. With. Anthony

Sidey: So you might as well pick your brother's widow.

Dan: yeah. Oh, I guess that's, that's what they would've done back in the

day,

Cris: Keep it in the family. You

Dan: gotta, you gotta look after her, you know, somebody does. And it was all very sad and melancholy. but it was an epic movie. I remember for the pod thinking it wasn't as good second time round as it was first time round. But Brad was strong.

strong. Brad,

Cris: I have a, can I say I have a, well, there's a, there's a trilogy of films and there's really good content for falls in this [00:17:00] trilogy is the Lord of the

Rings. where you've got the, the, I think the most memorable one is when Frodo kind of falls back and he, the, the ring lands on his finger.

When

Sidey: certain, the battle

Cris: Gandalf falls with a bow rug. That's a fall. He kind of falls on down that pit. There is when the two fucking dicks, the Pippin and PPI

Sidey: marry and

Cris: they,

they fall from that hawk, but then off they fall somewhere and the hawk

Dan: Oh

yeah, the big

Cris: The big bird kind

Dan: you've got Goms fall into Mount Doom as well, haven't you?

Sidey: Yeah. He's, he gets shoved in. You see his hands bit like terminate too. That one is hand with the ring. goes in last. And you also have surman off the two

towers.

Cris: Yes.

Sidey: I think gets imp paled on a load of spikes. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: Obviously there's a lot of orcs and stuff falling throughout the movie and stuff, so, so it's, it's quite tight content to fall.

So, can I have, I, I'm not gonna knock, I'm not gonna put one

Sidey: specific just the

just the whole concept. of Yeah, Lord, Ton. I, I like [00:18:00] it. Various iterations of.

The Riken back falls.

Dan: like it. Like where

Sidey: Sherlock, so you can go literary, you can have the actual original story, you can have the, if you wanna go contemporary in terms of when it was made, you can have the guy Richie which I can't remember the name of the film

Dan: as well.

Sidey: back as well. That's the one I was gonna go, those end

Dan: the, the ones that I always I go to is Jeremy Brett Edward Hardwick as the, the ITV Thames television, editions just fantastic because they're true to Conan Doyle's

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: vision of Sherlock, if you like, even to the period piece and And costumes. I, I just absolutely think they're but the, the comeback ones are, are

Sidey: well, that's a totally different take on it where they do, they do interpret it differently, you know, and then you have the.

So

that was

the end of a series. Yeah. Where he goes off, [00:19:00] he's, he's told, you know, by Morty, this is what you have to do. And he kills himself.

So we think, and then it comes back the next series. Then we see loads of flashbacks, of different

you know, Possibilities.

of what, how it, how it all went down. Which is different obviously to the original story, but then it's still a gateway to get a new audience into it and then to go and then look into those original stories and, and get into it, you

Dan: Yeah. Yeah.

good,

fall. Yeah. Good fall stuff. You got the fall guy. That was the TV series back in the seventies, eighties. That was huge. And they've recently

Sidey: who was in it.

Dan: with Goslin Goslin. Ryan Goslin

Cris: A is dreaming

Sidey: Oh,

the stuntman one. Yeah, I'm trying to think who was in the series,

Dan: series, the TJ Hooker guy. Somebody's shouting at the. Radio right now. Tell us who it is. Full guy.

Cris: Well, the actual first series.

Oh, I dunno. I've never heard of it. Or now that you mention it,

Dan: No, it was pretty big because it was

my,

my my sister [00:20:00] absolutely loved it.

Sidey: Lee majors,

Yeah.

Dan: we were, kids. So he was the original four

Sidey: I've not seen the, the Ryan go one, it's Emily Blunt as well. isn't she's the director and

Cris: right. yeah.

Sidey: The love interest.

type

Cris: It's quite good. But

Sidey: it's not Ryan Gosling's best work.

I

Cris: No. Yeah,

Sidey: yeah.

Dan: no. Well, He, he, he, Lee Majors actually made a cameo, I think in, in

Sidey: one Oh, right. Of course he did. Yeah.

Dan: yeah, he, he straight off the back of Barbie which was a, a big hit. know, whatever he did, people were gonna go and see afterwards. but It it promised more than it delivered. And hence from the the reviews that I heard, I I never went to spend my hard earned to go and see that one.

But the, the TV program is big, big in my house.

as a youth.

Cris: I've got a movie called The Fallout, which is in 2020. It has a word fall in it. Mm-hmm. It is got, it's 2021. It is with Jenna Ortega, and it follows this teenager [00:21:00] girl after a school shooting. I've never actually watched it, but it has popped up on my, you know, when you open a Prime or a Netflix or something and it, you kind of see the preview in it.

It looks quite dark, a little bit and quite

Dan: Gotta be in the right

Cris: Yeah. For me to, to watch it. But it's like a, I think she's gay as well, so it's kind of a, a, a double. A trouble thing for me.

Dan: Right. Okay. much

Cris: emotion there. Yeah. But I did see the, like the, you know, the trailer thing and it's, it's got the word fall in it.

So can I take that? Yes. Okay.

Dan: It's in,

Cris: there's also quite a few superhero movies where they fall, especially initially if they get their, like, Spider-Man, when he gets his, when first he gets his powers,

Sidey: web slinging powers, Yeah. he

Cris: of, he kind of falls and then gets his spider senses Neo when he gets his,

Dan: I

was just thinking of that one when you said it.

when

Sidey: nobody makes it the first time. Nobody nobody

Dan: it the first

Cris: You know, like these kind of there's Captain America when he kind of [00:22:00] falls the first time and he lands on his feet and he just does the superhero landing. So, so there's a few, the Panther guy, the Black Panther, is it, is that a thing?

Black Panther?

Sidey: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wakanda, Yeah.

Cris: That guy. So there's a few of the superhero genre, Batman, obviously when he, he falls, but then he shoots the

Arrow

Gunny ropey

Sidey: He's got his Like winch pulley. type. Yes.

Yeah. Mechanism. I was also thinking about Batman because joker, he has loads of different origin stories, but then the Michael Keaton one, the first film Yeah.

Joker, Jack Napier falls into a vat of chemicals and that's how he

gets

Cris: right. Okay.

his

Sidey: twisted face. Oh yeah. That was good. Another person who falls, not person, actually this one's a massive ape. King Kong falls off

the Empire State

Building. Yeah. Sad times for that guy.

And also was thinking about buzz Lightyear and Toy Story when he thinks he's convinced that he's not a toy, that he's a real hero.

And when he tries to fly and he [00:23:00] falls, it's when he starts it Dawns on him that actually.

Dan: But he, he actually. Makes it,

Sidey: does a few times. Yeah.

Dan: he is going there? Told you And he is just absolutely

Sidey: complete fluke

Dan: around the room. Yeah. You've got Han Gruber. Of course. That's one of the, the famous fool. We can't have a fall without mentioning this one.

It's the, the slow motion wonderful Alan Rickman just falling from the Nakatomi Plaza. And the, the special effects was, it's just on point because you know that it's not real, but it was as good as it got back then in the

Sidey: It's just one of the greatest villains, You're almost rooting for him 'cause he's got so much

Dan: He's, he's got

Sidey: but he is fucking ruthless as well.

Dan: well. What I really loved about most about the, the next one where it came out it was Jeremy s

Sidey: That was the third one.

Dan: Yeah. Was the fact that it was his brother? Yeah. You know, and, and

Sidey: think he goes the same way, doesn't he? He

Dan: and he, he has, he has a fall as well. Yeah. But it wasn't as good as hands gruber in [00:24:00] diehard, maybe the best fall of all time.

Mm-hmm.

Cris: I have a fall from a horse while being shot at. It is Don Johnson in Django Unchained when Django makes his first shooting. Really? When he, he kinda shoots the first white person after he goes to the plantation and he's, oh, he's getting away.

Don Johnson's getting away. He, so I got him, I got him, and then you see the, the blood splatter and him falling off a horse. And, and I do like that scene because the, initially the Kuck Klux cla people, they can't see and it's like a quite a comedic scene with them trying to see through those mosque, but they can't.

can I have that?

Sidey: Yes. Fall out. You mentioned a fall out. There's a fallback. So It was a video game series. Very

Popular. Yes.

Which then had a series Series one was out, I think it was last year on Prime. Hugely successful and had Carl McLaughlin in So Big win for me. Yeah. That

was,

Cris: you see his dick?

Sidey: dick?

Really good. I don't think you see [00:25:00] his

dick. No, I think He

turned out to be the bad guy as well. So that was good.

I never played the games actually, but I know Riggs is a big fan. And then Fallout boy I know Pete, who's not here tonight. Pete's a big fan of Fallout Boy, the band.

right?

Dan: right?

Cris: is that an actual thing?

Fallout Boy? Is it a band?

Sidey: Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Like emo kind of.

literally the worst kind of music. But Pete loves it. He's a huge fan.

Cris: Okay.

Dan: You've got,

Back in this silent era, Harold Lloyd did a lot of falls and, and Buster Keaton. Yeah. Charlie Chaplin would do lots of this slapstick Comedy falls. Yeah. A lot of time it the expense of their own.

Health and,

Sidey: well, Buster, keeps when, like, how did he survive all that shit? 'cause they're so intricately planned, but anything goes wrong.

You're like

Cris: You are gonna Yeah,

Dan: the house. The

Sidey: falls, yeah.

Dan: That, falls. And they've

Sidey: some fucking stones to do that.

Dan: Some just stand there. Do not move.

I think he broke his neck in like a fish tanker or something like that.

But

yeah. All, all for the good of And and then [00:26:00] afterwards you had Jackie Chan in Project a which was inspired by Harold Lloyd's kind of safety last film in the 1920s when he, he fell from the big clock tower

Cris: In, I dunno if you've ever seen the movie, the Lone Survivor. It's Marky Mark and it's, I I thought it was really good. And it was, it was one of them. It's a war movie. It's about these four guys who are draw behind enemy lines in, I'm gonna say Afghanistan. And they're on a mountain and they get discovered by this goat shepherd, like this kid,

just And they, yeah, by a goat.

Dan: reminds me of, Yeah.

Cris: they, and then they, they go like, and, and the mark, mark and this other guy are, one of 'em is the best man at the other one's wedding. And he goes like, oh, is Becky gonna be there? You know, she's gonna be there. She's a bridesmaid. Oh, did, did she say anything about me?

Yeah, she fucking hates you. But anyway, that's kind of like how it goes. And then this kid finds them and they have the option of [00:27:00] do we kill him or a kid or do we just, he's like, we let him go in 10 minutes. You see that village? They're all onto us. And the story of the film is, it was based on a real guy, a real story.

And there is a fall, which they basically fall from, I dunno

Dan: should have shot the kid. Is

Sidey: yes. He should always shoot the kid.

Cris: well, I dunno, but they, he's the only one surviving at the end of the film. Marky

Sidey: We watched,

A Marky Mark film this week. I was off No, tell

Cris: tell me You

Sidey: We watched Deepwater Horizon?

Is that the name of it? The oil

Dan: yeah,

yeah, That Based on a

Sidey: Yeah. It was Based on a True

story.

Cris: Okay. I didn't watch that. I tried to watch the Union with Halle Berry and

Sidey: seen that one.

Cris: After 20 minutes I

was like,

Dan: it, it looks shit, I couldn't even finish. the trailer. But I was watching something else with Marky Mark just on YouTube. Yeah. Weird.

Just this week. And it was Eminem talking well, he was talking about him being the best white rapper, and then Emine M turned up and he was like. Suddenly he just put in his place. But he said, [00:28:00] I'm still the best white rapper. Then went in to make movies. I mean, he's only done one movie, eight Mile. I've done actually a few now, and that some, some of his movies are okay.

like that one that you talked about, That

Cris: long survivor's good. I really like that. And, and there's a fall, there's a brutal fall

scene in

Sidey: other guys.

Come on. It's great. Speaking of Eminem, he has a song called

Cris: The

Dan: Fall. Fall.

Sidey: Fall. Fall. Yeah. Some other song titles would be fall in, that's Harry Styles Fall in with an A Post 'cause They've missed the n Yeah,

so it's street slang. That's Alicia Keys. Remember that one?

Cris: Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

Sidey: One, that I'm sure Dan is,

A fan of his free falling apostrophe, that's Tom Petty

Dan: free Jeremy

Sidey: And when I fall in Love, Nat and Cole. which there's been a load of covers.

I think it's the one that goes, I believe when I

fall

Dan: fall in love.

Sidey: This time will be forever. Is that that one? Yeah.

Dan: It'll Be forever.

Sidey: Stevie Wonder does a really good cover. of it. So yeah,

lots of,

Of those ones fell in love with a girl. White Stripes video for that by [00:29:00] Michelle Gondry And Lego, I think is really good. Okay. So yeah.

Falling song wise Yeah, loads of them.

Cris: There's a film called Fall that we did for the podcast.

Yeah. With these girls, the two girls.

Sidey: high and she'd been dead for ages. Yeah, Yeah.

Yeah. It was good. I enjoyed that one.

Cris: Yeah, I, not so much me, but I do remember it. And it was quite,

Sidey: yeah. Horny,

Cris: tragic. Yes.

And do you remember that? Do you remember

Sidey: that? I do remember yeah. Okay.

Cris: it's called Fall? No, the No

Sidey: just fall. Yeah. fall.

Cris: Yeah. And that's that I guess.

Sidey: Right. Should we put in our four nominations?

I'm gonna go for the band. The.

fall.

Anyone familiar with the work of the fall?

Dan: No, Tell me more,

Sidey: oh, come on.

You must know the fall. they're from Manchester. They've got, they were John Peel's favorite band. Markey Smith lineup changed forever. He was the only constant. in it.

They're great. I'm on a mission to get all of their [00:30:00] albums on vinyl. It's, they're like, that is a job for life. 'cause it's a real mission.

They're very prolific and sometimes quite challenging. But al always quite rewarding. You, you'll know some of this stuff.

Dan: Yeah, I think so. When you said John Peele, It started to come back to

Sidey: One of the great sort of indie bands. indie rock bands, it's a

terrible way to describe them 'cause they're better than that. But,

Dan: I haven't got

Sidey: just really anarchic, chaotic he's like a really grumpy fucking asshole, which like appeals to me. So

yeah, the

full.

Dan: Okay.

Cris: Well, the, I don't have a, a one in particular, but obviously we always know there's a Simpsons for every top five. There's quite a few scenes in the Simpsons where there's a fall, but everyone kind of falls head first, and then you just see the heads, the, the legs kind of moving and sticking out.

I don't have an episode in mind necessarily, but

Sidey: there's one, I forgot to mention that the famous one from a film that they take off in The

Simpsons.

Cris: Okay.

Dan: And Not Vertigo, is it?

Sidey: No, it's The Fugitive where Harris and Ford Jumps And

Millhouse does it. and he drops off the [00:31:00] dam.

Cris: I, I knew there's a few of them, so I, I'm just gonna put the Simpson because it's, there's in a million of epi episodes and you can always see someone stuck in a bin or in a, yeah.

In sand or in something after a fall, and they're just the feet just, or the legs just moving.

Sidey: Mm-hmm.

Dan: well, I, I was thinking of James Stewart, Jimmy Stewart's fall well, he's not quite a fall. It begins with that he's a detective chasing a suspect on

Sidey: Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On

Dan: top of the, the rooftops in San Francisco.

And He slips and he manages, there's a, there's a policeman.

Sidey: It's the where the camera does the thing, isn't it? Yeah.

Dan: And he's trying to kind of help him, but then the policeman kind of falls to his death and it gives him vertigo then. Yes.

Cris: Yes. Yeah, I remember that.

Dan: I remember that. Yeah. And right towards the end of the, the film, he's kind of, on the bell tower and he's in a similar high place he's gotta go up to.

Sidey: yeah,

Dan: that,

Cris: yeah, And then we realized that it was not his wife, it was someone

Sidey: else.

It was aliens all along. Yeah.

Dan: was aliens the whole [00:32:00] way.

But yeah, that vertigo of the fall paralyzing him. So that would be my one.

Sidey: that's three falls.

Dan: 3,

Sidey: need two more.

Dan: falls.

Or falls.

Sidey: We could put, you decide

Yeah. Pete. Pete. We're probably gonna wanna put fall out boy, but we'll have to argue. the Toss on

that one. Over to you.

Anatomy of the Fall. Dan, you've got a stat about it.

Dan: Well, it was Oscar nominated and a winner

Sidey: It won, yeah.

Dan: for best screenplay at the 1992 Olympic Games.

Sidey: Yeah, it came out as a cinematic release in 2023. And I do remember being a bit hype about it, people being really excited about it.

I remember Mark Commodes review, he really liked it. So it cropped up. I think I had seen that it was on Prime, but it had gone, it's now on Netflix though, so we were able to watch it there. And it's I, I sort of knew that it was about someone dying from a fall.

Dan: Mm-hmm.

Sidey: was about it. So, I thought, let's have a look at this.

Dan: Yeah. So it is a a foreign language film. It's actually in a few different

Sidey: You're full of stats about this film. [00:33:00] We, Yeah.

Dan: I I didn't actually watch

Sidey: it. Is it,

Cris: is it a foreign language?

Sidey: It's, partly, it's, some of it it's like half and half. 'cause Yeah.

Cris: But mostly it's in English,

At the beginning.

Sidey: Yeah. The lady that we first, introduced, well there's a, a sort of tennis ball bounces down some stairs.

There's a conversation going on,

And a

dog

Appears it's

Cris: Cute.

Sidey: Like really cool. Yeah. Really cool And then there's a lady and she's being interviewed by a

Cris: a reporter. Yeah. I'm not

Sidey: not entirely

sure 'cause their conversation is interrupted when the music comes on.

It's an instrumental version of PIMP.

Cris: Yeah. But, but I've never heard the, just the instrumental

Sidey: It sounded like quite calypso.

like steel drum kind of vibe to it as well.

So

the, the interview is cut short and you're right, this, this is all in English, although I had the words on somebody didn't matter to me. What language? it was

Cris: The subtitles? Yeah. Yeah. I've had them on as well.

So,

Sidey: And she is actually a German lady. She

is called Sandra.

Cris: Yeah.

voer some, something like that.

Sidey: Yes. [00:34:00] Voer. And,

Her

Cris: Samuel is the

Sidey: husband. Samuel is upstairs and he's a bit

Cris: we, we don't see him for a long time.

Sidey: He's basically it turns out he put the music on 'cause he is grumpy and he just wants this,

point.

Cris: the reporter gone

Sidey: fuck

off, He doesn't want the people to make it in the house. So he's put this music on really loud, on repeat this one track on repeat to end this.

And so they abruptly end the interview and she goes about her weight and the sun is there with Snoop and he takes Snoop out for a

walk. And

His mother shouts that she's gonna go and have a nap,

Cris: Yeah. And you can see the sun when he turns on the tap. He washes the dog. But you can see him kind of being more, at least from, from the beginning.

I, I, I could see that he's kind of touching the tap.

Sidey: top. I didn't I didn't clock it straight

away. I, I, yeah. I

Cris: it straight away with a tap when he, when he touches things. So

Dan: visually impaired.

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: So, so, not completely blind. but he's completely blind, but but probably legally blind.

Cris: And, and he, he, throughout the movie, that's a [00:35:00] recurring theme.

And, and obviously we find out that what happened to him later. But

Sidey: so he comes

back from walking the dog and the old man is just on the floor. They live in a chalet at the top of a mountain. Yeah. It's a kind of bit of a

mess, right? well it's, it's in the midst

of a renovation. But there's blood on the floor.

He is down. The kid shouts up, but the music's still playing. He's trying to get his mom's attention. Eventually she looks out over, runs down calls.

9 1

1 or The equivalent whoever.

And, you know, gets people, and she's not able to help him. She doesn't know what to do.

Cris: And she, you can hear her on the phone just being like, oh, well he's not moving, he's not breathing.

I'm trying to help him. And, and he, she's in English.

Sidey: I just need you to

come now. and Just come.

Cris: Yeah. I can't do anything. He's not breathing.

Sidey: but because

they're so isolated, I think it takes half an hour for the police cops to arrive. he's dead.

Cris: Yeah, He's

Sidey: a, goner.

And so we were immediately into this mystery of well, how exactly did this happen?

There was only her in the house. The son was [00:36:00] out

with the dog,

walking the dog. So either,

Cris: and there's no, there's no neighbors to be like, here where you have, you know, there,

Sidey: So there's three possibilities. He, He jumped slash fell. She pushed him,

or,

or a third party came into the house while she was asleep.

And, and this is, this is,

Cris: and you can see when, when they show the, the closeup, the trauma is at the side of his head.

They do show that in the, in the initial thing. So, so you can see where the, where the hit or where he bumped his head is right to the temple. And it's like the, the skin is split open. So, so it's, it's not like he, the blood is coming from the back, how he fell or whatever. You don't know

Dan: No, That's not consistent with the fall, that blow on his side of his head.

Sidey: Well, so we're gonna Get

into the investigation. So there is like with any sort of unexpected death, there'll be an investigation. This is especially unexpected because they just don't, there's no explanation for it at, at all.

Yeah.

Cris: He was working in the loft and the kid leaves, he goes for a nap and then he's found dead.

So

Sidey: the next thing is we get the lawyer [00:37:00] comes to the house, but it is not immediately clear that he's a lawyer It could just be a

family.

Cris: looks like a friend.

Sidey: So just chatting away and he is like, right, I need to tell me everything. I think this is like a few months down the line. Tell me about what, what did you tell the

Cris: How

did you tell the police?

Sidey: she says, oh, he goes, no, I need to tell me exactly what you told them? And It's like, oh, He's the lawyer. And then he sort of is sniffing around upstairs and, and when it happened, he was working in the attic room and it's a really odd window that It's almost like a triangular window, that I, it's very difficult to have fallen out of it.

It's got quite a high window, sill,

Dan: difficult to have pushed somebody out of it. maybe

Sidey: it's, it's it's

Cris: difficult to open it. It was, it is quite a, yeah, it's very weird

Sidey: You wouldn't, you wouldn't really, it would be difficult, like it's difficult thing to fall out of so that he's immediately not suspicious, but he is like, I don't think anyone's gonna buy that.

He fell. So she, then,

so

Cris: got suicide or homicide,

basically. Those are the options

Sidey: She then remembers an [00:38:00] well a little bit later she remembers a, an incident where she had found him and he'd been sick and there was white dots in it and he'd taken an overdose. She that's her story, but she'd never phoned anyone.

She never,

Cris: and she didn't tell the police either. When, when they asked was there anything wrong, did you have any, was he depressed? Did you have any fights with him? Nothing. So, so there's no,

Sidey: she's,

she's

a little bit withholding, although we don't know that. Because what happens is now he's, the lawyer is saying to her, sort of coaching her, there's gonna be a court case You're

gonna be That that they're gonna want you for murder. They, they think that you've done this. There's one bit where she goes out for a walk with I think it's

the

Cris: mother-in-law or

Sidey: or something. The Godmother of,

of the child. Yeah. And the lawyer, the go, Just as they're coming back over this sort of the crest of this hill, they can see the gaff, the chalet. and the investigators are there they're pushing a dummy out of the,

out of the window where he

Cris: doing a test with a,

Sidey: and they just watch it fall and smack into the shed ceiling and fall on the floor. And she's like, oh.

Cris: Because the, the [00:39:00] case, the case especially is, is complicated because there's three splatters on the shed directly underneath the window. There's a shed. And he,

Sidey: there was

Cris: however he fell,

Sidey: no DNA

evidence

on the shed roof.

Yeah.

Where he would've hit, he would've

Cris: there's no DNA evidence, but he, he definitely would've hit there. And there's a splatter on the wall rather than on the roof.

So,

so, so those three splatters, and the argument for, for the, obviously there's gonna be in, in trial, there's gonna be two experts in splatter, and one of them says he's definitely been pushed.

He has to be over the ledge. That's the only way there's a splatter. And he had to be hit,

Sidey: they've been hit with something hard. So you've got the prosecutor and then the defense, and then you get the experts. And it really, it, it, it becomes just a courtroom, not just a courtroom, but it is a courtroom drama about

Cris: peppered with memories of their life.

Dan: Right.

Sidey: But the lawyer,

Cris: see the, the actual

Sidey: her lawyer gets annoyed because it, it turns out [00:40:00] that, that the.

The husband had been recording arguments that they'd been having, and she had to kind of say, the, well, we weren't, we, we, we've got on great. you know,

Cris: Sorry. We should say that She was a writer. He was a teacher who was an aspiring writer.

Yeah. And she had three or four books out, and she had interviews in the past where the truth makes fiction. She, I've inspired these books in my life from my life. They, they try to put things from the book into her personality and all these things. So there's, there's nuances from the book. It is, it is a, it's a more complicated thing than just, oh, how did this happen?

Sidey: But there, she's basically said they were getting along fine. Turns out they've had this fucking blazing rail the day before he's died. Oh. Which had got violent and he'd recorded it. So there's a file on

his

Cris: Another base is the fact that when the son was three, the son being probably at about 11 now, the, the husband was meant to go pick him up.

He didn't have time because he was really busy. [00:41:00] They sent a babysitter. She was late. They took the, she took the kid across the street and he got, the kid got hit by a motorcycle and his optic nerve was Erv, permanently damaged. Okay, so the, the husband blamed himself.

Dan: Is there, there's a blame and there's a guilt going

Sidey: Possibly. she blamed him too. So they've got this audio recording of this physical altercation. It starts off with just a row. Later on, the film will cut back. Give us the flashback scene of them having this row. He is angry with her because he wants them to reorganize the way they do things because he feels like he's making all of the compromises for her.

She says, no, you know, the only reason we live in this, in your hometown is because you wanted to, you know, everything is not how you see it. And In the courtroom. She's saying, you are talking about a fight, a a, an argument that we had. As if that's the whole truth of our relationship. But that's one thing, you know, if you take a couple that have been together for 10, 15 years, there will be times in that.[00:42:00]

Dan: Never

for us. I dunno, Have you you, you've been

Sidey: No, I've never had a fight like that. But she's saying you can't, you can't, judge us based on that. No, of course. A whole time that I'm watching this film,

every

single person that comes into it in the courtroom. So you have the splatter expert, you'll have the psychiatrist 'cause he was on meds for

Not depressants, he

says to shield him from something Something

Cris: Yeah. From, from being, from feeling, feeling too guilty after something like that. It was

Sidey: it kind

of seemed like antidepressant to me, but it says explicitly not. And every single person, whether it be the prosecutor or the any one of the experts so that you get another guy who's the another in another field, everything is.

Just their opinion, like they,

yeah,

Cris: it's an

Sidey: No one can, not a Single person in it

facts

can categorically say. so from the get go, in my head I'm thinking, you'll never get a conviction on this because

there was

no one there. You don't have a witness. The only witness you have is her son.

And a large part of the film is [00:43:00] the fact that they assign someone to be with. So they don't put her in prison, she's not on remand while this is going on. She's allowed to be at home with the

son,

Cris: but the son is a key witness.

Sidey: they have to have a chaperone with 'em so that she doesn't effectively influence the witness to say in case she had done it, just then say the son or don't you better not say anything.

You know, so that, that's sort of taken care of like that. But I'm thinking in a, in a case, in a murder trial where you are, you've got to prove beyond reasonable doubt. You'll never be able to prove when there's no witness and no, whether this,

Cris: there's no murder weapon. There's

Sidey: try and make a motive, they don't

find the murder weapon.

And I'm so, 'cause 'cause it's quite a long movie and I'm, and I'm thinking for most of it. So then I, my my mind started to wander because the kids got the fucking Danny Torrance haircut from The Shining, I'm thinking,

Yeah. maybe He fucking

did,

Dan: right? Yeah. Yeah. He

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: obviously he's got the, he's got the kind of like the whitish thing on his eyes as well, so he looks a bit, not creepy, but he just looks a bit like he

Dan: he

could

Sidey: was wondering where they were gonna go with it, but it, it is just this, the plain and simple court case thing like, [00:44:00] it. So they go through it and there's a lot of flirting.

It turns out that the lawyer and her have got a history and he was in love with her,

but it was never reciprocated and it looks at some point like they're gonna fuck. And then she kind of t turns on him and it's like, I didn't fucking do it. She goes, I can see the way you're looking at me just then.

And you're like, oh, she's got a bit of a fucking temper on her. Right. And what has happened, when they listened back to the audio tape of the argument she had basically stolen, not stolen, because apparently he had said it was okay, but his idea of his novel Oh, wonderful. which he couldn't complete, she said, that's a brilliant idea.

And He then got stuck with it and gave up. She says, well, do you mind if I take that idea and run with it? And he said, yeah. And so she's written this like really successful book off the back of it. So he resented that. She also admits in court that she, for a time was resented the fact that he didn't pick up the kid and that led to the accident.

So there's a bit they're trying to draw out a motive. Yeah. But really it,

Cris: Yeah. And she had sex with [00:45:00] some lesbian some other time

Sidey: quite, she's she's bisexual and

Cris: and he knows about it. And, and is that the reason why he was playing music? Because you had a hot woman in the while interviewing you and you were flirting with her and all that.

So there's, so there's, there's all these kind of things. But, but all in all really, and, and, and it's all in French.

Dan: And is, are you, you feeling this was a quick movie, Chris did it?

Cris: No, it was

Sidey: move on? It's, It's two

and a half hour runtime.

Dan: But does it, f sometimes it feels, you know, like

I can't believe

Sidey: I Was engaged with it the whole way through.

Okay. I was just thinking to myself, well, unless they do something. Unless it pivots somehow. I can't see how this would ever be a conviction and unless that's the story that they get a conviction and it's like a dubious one, is that the controversy at the end. But in the end, she, she is

Cris: They

do raise, raise it a little bit towards the end just before the, it's a Friday.

And then they go like, oh, right. Or whatever. And they're like, oh, we, we've heard all the witnesses, we've heard all the experts, we've heard everyone. And then the judge goes, we will [00:46:00] have we will have a, a pause. There's only one person we need to interrogate.

Sidey: Again,

Yeah. That's because there's a surprise one morning where she's dragged away.

and It's because the kid says he's got something else to

say. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: And, and the, the judge goes like, we, we need to, we have Daniel, I think

Sidey: is the kid's name,

Cris: and she's like, we, we'll have him on the stand again, but by himself. So he needs to go home now. Make sure she doesn't get in contact with him. And in the night when they go home, the mom's cooking and he's like, tells to the chaperone to the handler.

He's like, I want her outta the house. But like that, just like that straight face. I want her outta the house.

Dan: No. He wants the mom

Cris: that house. Yeah. And, and then the mom was like, oh, but we can speak. I can be upstairs. You can be down here. And he's like, he doesn't even speak to her. She's like, just like that.

And then, okay, fine. She leaves, which is, I must be heartbreaking. Yeah. You know, and, and she, you can see her in the, in a hotel room just crying, and eating pizzas and like the bed full of random junk food and stuff. And then he [00:47:00] takes some pills.

Sidey: Yeah. My message was like, oh my God, he's not gonna kill himself, is he?

'cause he, he takes a load of blister pack pills. Right. But no, he poisons the dog.

Cris: Yeah. He gives him to the dog and then the, he can see him

Dan: more weight to him doing the

Sidey: well, No, it's quite, it's quite important. Well, It's very important in the plot. And

Cris: then he, in the morning, he wake, he looks, he keeps looking at the dog.

Dog's asleep. The morning wakes up and the dog's like tongue out, eyes rolling. And the dog's. Pretty much on his way out. And she starts crying for the chaperone. The woman comes, they rescue the dog. She googles like, it's quite a good thing with a g

Sidey: make a dog Sick.

Cris: Yeah. How to make the dog sick quickly.

And she's like, oh, salt water. Okay. They, the dog gets sick. They look in the sick and she's like, oh, I made an experiment because I remember after when, in the time when my mom said that my dad was sick and whatever Snoopy came to

Sidey: he licked up

Cris: and he smelled of sick, and he was droopy and drowsy and all that.

And I'm thinking, I thought he was sick, but I'm thinking he ate my dad sick. [00:48:00]

Sidey: So then you're like, oh. So the story that.

she had told about the old man trying to was actually true, was true. And this was his way of proving it. So he goes on the stand, and when they were taking the dog to the vet, his old man's giving him this big story about, look, one day the dog's not gonna be around.

You need to be ready for that. And, And the kid's like, oh, we're taking him to the vet. And he's he's gonna be, able, there'll be, there'll come a time when the dog ain't here.

And

You just need to be ready for that. It'll be difficult. And he, and he says to the court, he goes, I, I now understand that my dad was talking about himself, inferring that he probably jumped, he probably killed himself.

And so then the next bit is on the courtroom steps and the mum coming out and that the news report says, so you've been acquitted. And you're like, oh, right, okay. that's it.

Cris: Yeah,

Dan: she, she, didn't know. Oh, she, she obviously,

Cris: well, yeah, because the, the, you showed the image in the courtroom is just the kid, the, and the, and the judge and the, and, and then, so, so, so that's the

Dan: Well, and that's end the movie then

Sidey: she No, she go, they go out for a sort of celebratory meal the, with the [00:49:00] legal team and her

Cris: yeah, the restaurant looks a bit like that Vietnamese place in

Sidey: it does actually. And And the lawyer says sorry, I'll drive you home. And you're thinking, fucking hell, You're pissed. Like, anyway, France I guess is

a bit more, liberal. yeah.

And she has to phone. She has to phone because. This is still where the kid has said to her, I don't want you here. Yeah.

Right. So she has to phone back home to say, oh, you know,

First to ask to ask To

speak to him. And he does speak to her and and she, he says, yeah, you can come home. I just needed to needed to do his dog bit, I think and

then find out if that

was really true. And he didn't want her around for that. And so she says, okay smart kid.

And she goes home and sees him. He was already asleep. So she puts him to bed and then she just lies down. The dog comes up and sits next to her. And the dog's like pretty key to the whole thing. And then it, it just sort of just, you know, like police squad where they all freeze, it's just her lying on the bed.

And

the credits.

Cris: And the credits, yeah. And the

Sidey: And it just, with her lying there. Okay. So I've,

Dan: Oscar,

Sidey: I

was surprised that there was quite so much hype about it. Anyways, The [00:50:00] performances are really good. Especially the kid, you know, I'm quite down on like child actors. This is a good one. He's, he is great.

Cris: he is. Oh yeah, he is good.

He's good. The kid. And he like the way he plays with the dog, the way he touches his way, the way he's really like, just like straight faced and

Sidey: It didn't, it is too long. Like I know. We

Like, it's

almost become like a joke now where we say, this, but it's the, it's two and a half hours. And to me, as soon as it got going, I was thinking, well, how can this be a proper court case where you'll never, you'll never convict, you'll never get a conviction on this.

So to me, I was a little bit surprised how much hype this seemed to get around the time because the story side of it didn't, didn't like I was compelled with it just to see what they were gonna try and do with it. Yeah. But actually it's quite straight. And so a little bit of just the way that the, the kid figures it out.

But it's, I was a little bit underwhelmed with it, to be honest.

Dan: Okay. Oh, well, and Chris,

Cris: I'm gonna, I'm gonna say I, again, you know me, it's definitely too long. Right. And, and [00:51:00] throughout that part with the court where it, it kind of drags out in court where it's like the argument and then the book and then all these kind of, the, the defense.

And that could have been done a lot quicker in a way. The only, the only reason why I, I kind of stuck to it and I, I, I wanted to know exactly where it is. It was because my uncle, one of my uncles used to work for the police back home and he used to be an investigator for the, like a military police, like the, for the internal police.

Alright. And he's telling me about two cases. The, the biggest one that he's ever done was he had to prove that one of his officers, like one of his fellow officers that he actually knew, shot himself, but apparently the guy, when this guy shot himself. The after he shot, he shot himself in the neck underneath his, like under his chin.

And when he shot himself, he died, but then his clip from the thing fell in his shirt pocket and the gun stayed in his hand.

And, [00:52:00] and he had to prove that, yeah, that this is actually a suicide rather than someone shot him. And the guy drove in the middle of the stick somewhere and did that. And, and my uncle had to prove that.

And he was like, look, there, there was the gun powder himself. He's like, he spent almost a year and he got himself ulcer and some liver damage because he was so stressed about this whole thing because obviously first of all, he was a guy he knew. And secondly, it was. So difficult to prove. And they did all these angles and all these tests and, and obviously when I got older, he told me, because I knew he, he had this big case and he wouldn't come home and do all that.

And then they had to put him in hospital. And after they finished with all this, and I was just like, what, what did he actually do? And then years later he told me, and he's still struggling with, with everything. So I kind of remembered a little bit of that. And I remember thinking, when I've seen this, I was just like, fucking all this.

In the end of the day, for me, just like a simple guy that doesn't think too much. This, this guy, this is just someone that fell down really. [00:53:00] And, but you have to create all, so, so I'm just putting myself in the position of the, the person that threw himself or fell, or the woman, or the kid or the investigator.

Generally

you think, look, I fell, or, or he jumped. It's a, it's almost like, well, there's these three options, but. You have to prove without reasonable or with, you know,

Sidey: they get all these experts in. But like the, the, the blood splatter expert, again, they just say, well, in our opinion, like looking at the evidence, this is our interpretation.

And so that, okay, so it's just your opinion. And then the one for the defense that

says,

no, it couldn't have been that way because of the angle. and blah blah. So and so that's, and, and, the, and the guy says, yeah, well that's just your interpretation. He like, yeah. So how can you ever fucking convict stupid. Anyway,

Cris: yeah, that so, so too long and also quite French.

It's

all about, it's all about me. All fucking this. All right. Grow up. I was, oh, is it?[00:54:00]

Cut

Sidey: French, French accent. though?

Dan: Yeah. It's very strong. Yeah, I know.

Cris: I, I can

Dan: Okay. Well I won't rush to go and watch it. But it doesn't sound like I should avoid it.

Cris: The acting is really good. The lighting is really good. And the filming is, is half documentary, half film.

Sidey: And the kid plays piano and that's what the score tends to be.

like, him playing the piano.

Strong recommend. Strong recommend.

Cris: Yeah.

Dan: Go for it.

 Oh, kids tv.

Sidey: No not this week. So that, is that, is that.

Cris: yeah, the, the fall week is done.

Dan: It's gone quick, isn't it? It's it is just,

Sidey: It's I

think, is Reg's gunning us for two weeks. Or just the one? I think it might, I think it might be double drop.

sure. but I, but if that is the case, irrespective of that, anyway, it's Summer holidays, so I think that Pete could potentially be available next week.

be good. So

we could draw him in. Maybe get Pete Noms.

Cris: Yeah, that would be Pete Noms. That would be, he would probably nominate that band as well.

Sidey: for that boy. Yeah. Yeah.

All their music videos.

Dan: Well, let's let's see if we can tempt him in and we'll keep [00:55:00] everybody.

Cris: If not, I think it's your turn.

Sidey: would be, yeah. Right.

Dan: Right. Well,

but we're in for a treat either way by the sounds of it.

Sidey: Yeah. All that remains is to say, Saudi signing out,

Dan: Dan's gone.