Cris's 40th & Full Metal Jacket

Full metal Jacket

Cris: I didn't wanna offend anyone, but I just thought, you are not here. And obviously I didn't do research, so I just thought, fuck it. I'll just say some random shit, which it wasn't great, but

Pete: have we started?

Sidey: Yeah,

Yeah.

Pete: is polished, Highly

Sidey: one yet. Well,

Cris: yeah. Did you, did you, do we have an intro or not?

Sidey: no.

Reegs: I, I am no.

Pete: No. A re Couldn't be bothered. So

Sidey: Simon's

been holiday. Peter's

Reegs: We had a power cut as well. yesterday. It just affected us and 20 other

Pete: Oh yeah. You can't write an intro with a

Sidey: Localized.

Reegs: watch anything or do it. Yeah, So

Pete: do an intro.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Pete: Could In fact, there's probably little else you could do.

Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah, I didn't, they? I read, I finished off my book though. That

Pete: I'm happy for

Sidey: for

you Bad

Dad's book review.

Pete: What book was it?

Reegs: Project Hail Mary, the Andy Weir. They're just turning it into a movie

Pete: Okay.

Cris: What is it about?

Sidey: It's Sci-fi.

Reegs: Yeah. It's sort of about the sun being sort of, slowly eaten basically.

And the problem that that [00:01:00] Gosling has

to

Sidey: by being

handsome.

Cris: Wow. Okay. Who's eating

Pete: Gosling in the book?

Reegs: No. but in the movie.

Cris: who's eating the sun?

Reegs: Astro ages. Like a tiny sort of single celled sort of thing that

consumes

Cris: Wow. Well,

Reegs: the Petrova line that links

Cris: Venus and Uranus. Wow.

Yeah. Okay.

Pete: I'll watch the film, I

Sidey: Yeah. Okay. Pete back Dan's not here.

he's,

he's awol. He's AWOL somewhere. Dan? Yeah.

And then Chris and I are also,

here.

Cris: yeah,

we we're here,

Sidey: a slightly different vibe this week. We're gonna talk about some actors and actresses. I think we just call 'em all actors now, don't we?

Pete: Yes.

Cris: Than they,

Sidey: no, I think

he's and they's And shims.

And then we're gonna watch a movie called Full Metal Jacket.

Pete: Here we are. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

I think that's Or is that the kids' thing?

Cris: Full Metal

Jacket.

Pete: is the kids thing.

Cris: I've watched Full Metal jacket already. Are we watching it again?

Sidey: Yes. we've gotta watch it live and talk about it over the top.

Wows gonna be a long one. Strap yourself

in.

Yeah,

Cris: get a strap on in.[00:02:00]

Sidey: So

Pete: still, I haven't been in for ages. Do you still go through what you've been

Sidey: watching and stuff? Yeah,

Pete: I've got like six months worth of

Sidey: stuff Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Pete: up on. what? No, I haven't got a list. I'm, I'm not going to go

Sidey: Give us a sort of a bridged highlights.

Pete: Okay.

Cris: you was something with

Pete: I have been watching. I've been watching The Bear

Cindy, which I'm fucking really, really into.

Sidey: I'm halfway through season one.

Pete: Oh, are you?

Sidey: I'm really, really slow with it

Pete: it was like the first sort of episode. I was like, oh, like there's not really, you're just kind of like into it and then it's happening and then it's, oh, there's one episode.

I can't think it's in the first season. It feels like it's about, it's just basically everything fucking goes wrong and it seems about 20 minutes long. And then that's it. But I'm kind of like getting really into it. I'm like invested like heavily into it now.

Reegs: The episodes vary in length actually, 'cause there are some longer ones as well.

But yeah, it's good. It's really

Pete: It is

Cris: many

Reegs: The music's

Sidey: Fourth is just out, I think

on this They're,

they're short, it's 10.

10 episodes.

Pete: is out,

Sidey: jaws potentially. And they're running be James Bond, he's also,

Pete: sorry, jaws.

Sidey: Allen

White, [00:03:00] JAW

Pete: Who's that?

Cris: the

bear, the

Pete: See, I'd never seen this guy before. In

Cris: yeah, he said he is never seen it.

I've seen him before and I haven't even seen the Bear.

Sidey: Bruce Springsteen in, the,

Reegs: he

was in, he

Sidey: Springsteen bio.

Pete: does look a bit

Cris: He's been

Sidey: because they're both short.

Cris: He's been in the Claw. We've done The Claw or the Iron Claw, whatever it's called. He was in

Pete: I

didn't watch that. Well

Reegs: He was in movie 43 as well as the guy had to

Sidey: Oh God, that was so bad.

Pete: I've never seen him before.

And in fact, so none. I hadn't seen any of the cast before, albeit now we're in the second series and spoiler out Will ter iss in it. Yeah. And he's like recognizable.

Sidey: Yeah. Jamie Lee Curtis comes into it.

And

Pete: And who you were claiming as a guy

Reegs: Oliver Plat. There's loads of people.

Pete: Oh, Oliver Plat. I had seen Oliver Plat

Sidey: before.

Yeah.

And Who's the one?

The Bri lady.

name

got Scott out my

Pete: Maggie Thatcher.

Sidey: Yeah. Same birth as me.

interest. Yeah.

Cris: Margaret Thatcher?

Sidey: No Olivia Coleman.

Pete: Oh, right. Is she, oh, okay. Well she's like, she's proper, didn't she?

Sidey: Yeah.

So, yeah, that's

good. I'm enjoying that as well,

Reegs: well. Who,

Pete: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's [00:04:00] he's Mikey, isn't he? The

Reegs: So Nobody really in it, but

Pete: some, some people, but not in the fir in the first episode.

Literally nobody I'd ever seen before other than Oliver

Reegs: are Some really good cameos

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Won't spoil Well, don't spoil anything. No,

Sidey: I'm enjoying that as well.

Pete: Yeah, that is that, that's, I've watched other stuff, but I'm not gonna go into it. What?

Sidey: What about you, Chris?

Cris: What about me?

Ah,

Sidey: The usual

stuff that we talk about?

Cris: Yes. Ah, sorry. I was really mesmerized by Pete's bear. I watched, I finished the queue, department queue. Oh yeah. And it was good. I,

Sidey: did they wrap

it all up nicely in

one series for you? No, Oh, you're

Cris: so fucking annoying.

Pete: Well, I'll tell you what, watch the second series and then it'll be less

Cris: No, that's not the, I'm not

Sidey: doing

that.

Cris: No. And this is why this is, again, it'll, it is. They, they've done, they, they've done the, there's basically two cases in one, it's a police thing, blah, blah, blah. The second they, they finished the, and they solved the mystery case, the, the disappearance.

But they don't solve the guy who shot [00:05:00] the officer in the neck and the other one's paralyzed and the one's dead. So it's a bit, they, they kind of tell you enough to get you hooked for the second moment it comes out, but that's never gonna happen so they can fuck off. And I think that's everything. I watched, I watched obviously the, the homework and not much else.

Pete: res do you catch any

Cris: there for me.

Pete: any shows in the New Forest?

Reegs: Well I saw a Peep show. I took it away with me on the old,

Pete: wanna rewatch that.

Reegs: I've

watched it about five times. All the way through. And Netflix keeps asking me, do you like this? And he's like, I've Seriously? I've watched this. you always And

Pete: do you click the thumb up every time? Well, that's why it keeps asking

you.

Reegs: but it should fucking know.

And also, I went and

saw Superman.

no, the new one.

Pete: Is there a new one? Is there a new

Cris: Is there a new one?

Thumbs

Sidey: up, thumbs down. Thumb. in the middle. I

Reegs: it. Yeah. Yeah,

Pete: I checked out of the whole Superman franchise at the one with nuclear man. Yeah, the four Superman. Four. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: There's been a few since then.

Pete: Yeah, there have been lots.

That was probably still in the eighties or so, or maybe early

Cris: Is it still Henry?

Reegs: No, it's

David [00:06:00] Coran Sweat.

Cris: Coran Sweat.

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: And Rachel Bro Hannon or something, bro. Brosnahan. Brosnahan, bro. Hanahan, I've You have you, have you seen the fabulous the marvelous Mrs. Maisel? Ms. Maisel? She's in that she gets a boobs out quite a lot in that. Probably less so in Superman,

Reegs: Yeah.

the, Not,

Not so much boobs. Nicholas Holt is Lex Luther. He's dead good as

Pete: Can, sorry, can we just go back? The guy, the main guy from the bear is going to be James Bond

Sidey: is in

the running. I don't think he, will

Reegs: he's too short

Pete: hope not. No, he's not

Sidey: But Daniel Craig was, wasn't exactly

tall.

Pete: No, but he's

Sidey: But he is the but He is

Bruce Springsteen.

Pete: Okay. Side,

Sidey: Ooh. I started watching Dark Knight again 'cause it was on Prime. We watched a

ham film, but dunno if I mentioned that last week. Home front or homeland or home.

Something, something about his home.

Pete: Homework.

Sidey: It's shit.

Yeah. Fucking hell.

Pete: Well you can bring that up in the

Reegs: faith. home[00:07:00]

Sidey: Home front. Yeah. He's like former.

Reegs: Yeah. former Something.

Sidey: something. Homelands

that's probably it. I can't think of anything else. Christopher collects. I watch all the Christopher collect stuff YouTube.

Yeah.

Strong. But no, that's it. But we're gonna talk about some some acting talent. Should We just get into that. Yeah. Okay.

Right. We're just gonna go through a sort of list that you curated,

Pete: Yeah. So, it's actually a bit of a reveal, and foremost. Do, do you know what's interesting is you nearly segued perfectly. We did segue perfectly when you said that Maggie Thatcher has the same birthday as

Sidey: you.

Yes, she does.

Yeah.

Pete: So this list isn't actually that random.

It's not as random as you think. Right. This list of actors are all people that share the birth, share the same birthday with Mr. Christian Benter. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Really?

Pete: Every single one of these five actors,

Cris: are all of them,

Pete: Jason Statham, Helen Miron, different, Kate Beckinsale,

Reegs: it's fair to say.

Pete: Sandra Bullock and Kevin Spacey all 26th of July.

So there we go. That's right. So this is a bit of [00:08:00] a, an homage to you, Chris. Bearing in mind it is your 40th birthday this coming

Cris: Yeah.

Reegs: And full metal jacket, your favorite ever movie

Yeah.

Cris: which I've never seen before.

Pete: Right. Is the director is

Sidey: same, Same birthday,

Cris: cubic.

Pete: Yep. Same birthday as you, is he?

Yeah.

Sidey: And Bugsy.

Pete: Do you know who else has got, oh, no. Bugsy isn't nothing. There's literally

Sidey: no connection

Reegs: It was a month before the release date.

Sidey: you said it

Pete: was, it was exactly a month before.

Sidey: There's time difference.

Pete: Yeah. And do you know who else has got the same birthday as you? Chris Mick Jagger.

Yeah.

Is he? Yeah.

Yeah,

Cris: sir Mick. Yeah.

Pete: Yeah. What? And, and I looked up, 'cause my birthday's the day before yours. I know. So I looked up famous people at the same birthday as me. There's only one Matt LeBlanc,

just not as yeah.

Sidey: And you love friends.

Pete: And I hate

Cris: Yeah, I was gonna say, oh my

Pete: So yeah. So I couldn't do it about me, so we had to do it about you. So that's that's why we're doing these actors. Okay. You must've known the Statman had you the same

Cris: had no idea. I

Pete: You had No. Didn't know about any of [00:09:00] them? No. Oh, okay. There we

Cris: Why would I care about these people's birthday?

Well, they,

Pete: Well, they, they, between the five of them, they have represented 100% of the best films ever. I think is, is what we're finding out.

Reegs: But they've never

starred in a movie together. All five of them? have

Pete: Not all five, no. There have been some, there has been some cross collaboration, but we can come onto that, some cross pollination.

Sidey: Speaking of, speaking of coming onto things, Helen Miran. Yeah. As top of my list, Dame Helen, Lydia Miran, Born 26th of July, 1945 in Hammersmith.

Reegs: she the oldest of our 26th?

Pete: Yes. She,

Cris: yeah. Well, Dan is not here, so

Pete: I would say, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go. Mirin. Spacey. Bullock.

Statham. Beckinsale

Cris: I think Beck Andell is younger than Statham.

Pete: Yeah, that's what I meant. So Beck, Andell,

Reegs: the youngest.

Pete: youngest. The youngest, yeah. Yeah. Miran the old. Miran being the

Sidey: oldest. 1973.

Cris: Is any of them in 85? That would be unbelievable. No, no. They're all

Pete: I'll [00:10:00] tell you what though, and what we should have done for the midweek, but because I was horny for Bugsy Malone, we watched that instead.

But guess what? Film was released on the 26th of July, 1985.

Reegs: Hang on, I might have it here 'cause I've got some, of, no, I don't have it. On, which one was it?

Pete: Rambo First Blood part two.

Cris: Wow. that is a

Pete: we should have just watched that. But we've done a thing, have we done Rambo and Rambo Six or whatever it is we've done.

Reegs: we

Cris: Well, the one in Mexico, the one, the last one is, oh, it's unbelievable. Mexican Rambo.

Reegs: But of movies that were released on Chris's birthday Deadpool and Wolverine last year. Yeah. And the Wolverine in 2013. So something strongly

Pete: can't be a coincidence

Sidey: look a bit like.

Reegs: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So huge Jackman is your thing.

Pete: Yeah.

Reegs: And two of your other favorite movies? I know you've talked about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood before, also released on your birthday in 2019 and Thomas and the Magic Railroad.

in 2000.

A

Cris: my favorite film.

Pete: Can, could you pick a favorite out of those two or

Cris: it has to

be Thomas.

Reegs: Oh, but here's

a good one. It's it's a [00:11:00] special note for a time to Kill, which features both Spacey and Bullock, Sandra Bullock, and was released

on July the

24th. 19 96, 2

Pete: would've been amazing,

Cris: that would've been, that would've been on your birthday. It

Pete: It would've

Reegs: It's close

enough to be worth mentioning.

Pete: That is worth mentioning. And one of the, the, the cross pollinations I was referring to. Yeah. Anyway, you were gonna talk about Miran.

Sidey: Yeah. Let's

get back onto Hella Miran. She's been around for a little while. She's got quite a, a breadth of a filmography, shall we say. I would, I'm gonna go as far as say better back in the day than more recent

Pete: Yeah. '

cause originally when I was toying with this, I was thinking about maybe picking a film of, more recent film of one of these actors. And I was looking at, at mirin stuff. And like you say, there's nothing in, in recent years albeit what I, I I've just written down Favorite or talk talking points, like one thing for each act.

Tour and mine was gonna be mob land for Miran. Yeah.

Have you [00:12:00] not seen it? Have you seen it yet?

Sidey: No, I've very good.

choosing to.

Pete: fucking brilliant in

this.

Sidey: She's good in 1923 as well.

So good like TV work, but gone Carol,

Pete: Right. Well, I mean, well obviously you've seen it, Chris. Yeah. She's like, she's like chilling but endearing and like, you, you want to absolutely despise her 'cause she's just so like callous and horrendous.

But she's also got something about her that you kind of still root for her a little bit. I dunno how to, but she's, it's a fucking powerhouse of her performance, I think. I

Cris: the, I dunno, the, the writing is very good on that as well, but she's, yeah, she is very good on,

Pete: she's like the archetypal matriarch of a, like a gangster family.

And ultimately she's pulling all the strings and everyone like, you know, does her bidding behind the scenes and stuff like that. She

Reegs: This guy Richie, is

it?

Cris: yeah.

Pete: Yeah. She plays it to an absolute tea. In fact, she, she kind of like. Almost like you can see the shadow of her both [00:13:00] in the program and I think in almost in real life over Pierce Brosnan.

Yeah. She just steals every scene that, that they're both in, because they're a couple in it, but yeah. Yeah. I like it a lot of time. Yeah,

Cris: He's good in it as well. He's good. But he's, but she's, she's like the, the, because it's, it's always, you know, how you, you always say that I hated, oh, I thought was fucking shit.

Or, that was good. I didn't really like the film, but I really hated, or I really liked that actor or the role. She's one of them that, because we talked about this a little bit as for me, that's, I like the whole series and it was really good. But she's one of them that you, I, you absolutely despise her and you're like, why does not someone stab her in the face,

but also you can't do that because she's in charge.

quite good. Yeah.

Pete: too good for it,

but, and she was,

she's a bit, she was easy on the eye back in the day

Sidey: Yeah. So

I would've mentioned

Caligula,

Pete: which I've never seen.

Sidey: No.

Cris: Oh, I've seen

Reegs: yeah.

Cris: yeah. Very interesting.

Sidey: So that was financed by [00:14:00] Penthouse. I

was

it? Yeah.

And they, they made the film that they thought was going

Reegs: used to be on like BBC two all the time. But the non porn

Sidey: yeah, they, they, they cut it with loads of just like hardcore pornography.

Reegs: Yeah, just a few shots of

cos and stuff.

Pete: Isn't there like, shit, eating and stuff like, what's that, Cora?

Reegs: There was in my house

Coprophilia

every Yeah.

Pete: four or 4:00 PM

Sidey: Yeah.

The nut roast

Reegs: sit down.

to eat

Cris: Okay.

Pete: Roast. Anyone got any? You must have you got a, a Marin contribution res? A

Reegs: A Helen What a specific one about Helen? Mirin.

Pete: And that's what we're talking about.

Reegs: She's a skilled marksman and enjoys shooting Clay pigeons. Peter, did you

Pete: Do you know? Right. Can I just interject there? I'm fucking incredible at Clay Pigeon shooting.

I've done it once in my life. It was Swayze's jersey. Stag do, yeah. 30 clays. 30

Reegs: that on my stag,

Pete: 30 outta

Sidey: But a sample

Pete: and I nev and the guy even said to me from the club was like,

was like,

Reegs: You're the Best. [00:15:00] I've ever seen

Pete: I've seen. He like, that was really impressive. Would you be interested in joining our club? I was like, I hated every minute of that.

Didn't

Sidey: Yeah. But a Sample size of one. It could have just been a fluke.

Pete: Sample size of one

Sidey: as in You've

done it once. and you

did we good that one

Pete: 30 times and I hit it every

Sidey: a Subset.

But you, you,

Reegs: you'd have to repeat it. Yeah, I think otherwise it was a fluke. my she's the only person to have played both the queen queen Elizabeth first and Queen Elizabeth I second.

Sidey: She won an Oscar for playing the Queen as well, didn't

Pete: I've never seen that either.

Cris: Yeah. I've not seen that. I can tell you she was in a film called, called red with Bruce

Reegs: Yeah. we

Sidey: more than Freeman

Freeman. and Malkovich. Mitz Malkovich.

yeah,

Cris: Malkovich

and Cox. Mike. Michael Cox.

Reegs: Brian.

Cris: Brian Cox. Brian

Pete: Brian Cox?

Yeah.

Cris: Brian Cox. Michael Cox. Oh, Coxes. Well, Michael Cox is the one that does the football

analysis.

Reegs: good. Yeah. Owner marking.

Cris: Anyway, it is not him, but it's Brian Cox and she's a professional marksman in that one. So your clay pigeon. can

Pete: I'm better than her.

Reegs: she was courted by the

KGB.

Pete: Was she Well, in real life, [00:16:00]

because she's such a good actress.

Reegs: speaks Russian. Yeah. And has a interest in Russian culture and as a youngster at the Royal Shakespeare Company. She was approached by the KGB comment. I know. She's, and she's hot and had this interesting life and but yeah, she did like Gosford Park. She was great in that. I'll get onto

that in a

minute.

It's gonna ruin a bit. I've

Sidey: okay.

Pete: Okay.

Sidey: Are we moving on to, are we doing it in the the order that you put them on? the, The WhatsApp?

I don't know. Kate Beck and Sale

Interesting fact about Kate Beckett. So I've never seen anything ever that she's done.

Cris: Have you not? I've

Reegs: you've not seen, underworld.

Cris: I can tell you the only thing I've seen and the only thing I actually remember her, she wears a lot of latex in underworld and she's very good.

Reegs: Len Wiseman,

her husband, the director of that movie, basically did it just to put her in a leather catsuit and seduce her away from at

that

Pete: then partner?

So he, he, he,

Reegs: He basically got movie financed and yeah,

Pete: It's a long way, like surely just like a

Cris: I also,

Reegs: true. it's a

[00:17:00] hundred percent.

Pete: Oh no. Yeah,

Cris: I've also seen an interview with her, I dunno, a few years ago, and she said that knowing what I know now I, in my teen in Hollywood, I would've, I should have saved a lot of useless sex encounters to get rolls because it didn't get me anywhere. And I

Pete: So she's thrown it around a lot, is what you're

Cris: lot, is what you're saying?

That's what she, she said it not

Pete: she, is smokes. The only thing I've seen her in fate that I can clearly remember is the completely needless remake of Total Recall.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Oh, I have seen that.

Pete: Yeah. Well she's in that,

I've

Cris: seen that as well. Is

Sidey: forgot about

Reegs: She

is in Pearle Harbor as well, if you've seen

that. I

Sidey: haven't seen it.

Cris: I've

seen Pearl Harbor. Is she in that as well?

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Sidey: It didn't get a strong recommend. So it's one as I

Pete: I think Res likes her 'cause he's got his hand down his pants.

Cris: I I like her

Sidey: Her

mother died this week.

Oh, well that would've

Pete: Well, her dad died a long

Sidey: time ago. Yes. And We all

know who he is,

Pete: Yeah. God. Birth from porridge.

Richard Beckinsale.

Sidey: she was very young when he passed away.

Cris: Oh [00:18:00] really?

Sidey: Oh really? I mean, he was

Cris: baby as well?

Sidey: Yeah, I

guess so. But

she's

absolutely

Pete: smoking a what baby.

What does that mean?

Reegs: son of a

Sidey: She only got a, she only got the gig because she had a famous parent.

Pete: Well, yeah.

potentially. Yeah.

Reegs: like Duncan They people accuse people like,

Cris: do we have the date?

What? What year was she born in?

Sidey: 73.

Pete: three. Didn't you say?

Cris: No?

73.

Sidey: Yeah. In Chisik.

Cris: Wow. I dunno, which Chik is it in England?

Sidey: city. Yeah.

Reegs: got an extremely

unusual History of pets.

Cris: Alright. she

Reegs: once owned a pet

pig, that she used to walk on a leash through London Parks.

Sidey: A Clooney had a pet pig I called Max, didn't he? so that's

interesting.

Reegs: pig stuff.

Pete: day was he born? Not the 26th of

Reegs: and she's another one. She's got a degree in French and Russian literature from Oxford. So she's obviously.

Stupidly smart as well. And

apparently she's one of these people that it says here, right.

I, it's Some fucking [00:19:00] Buzzfeed thing. that I found, or whatever. She's got a peculiar talent for speaking a different accent And claims she can't help but mirror the accent of whoever who she's talking to within minutes of meeting them, which sounds super fucking annoying. Imagine that.

Sidey: Imagine

Pete: it like meeting you Chris, like all of a sudden she just breaks into like a Romanian

Cris: just have an erection instantly if I only, if only if she speaks to me.

Pete: I think she wouldn't even need to talk. In fairness. yeah.

Sidey: Kevin Spacey,

Cris: I'll have

an erection for him

Pete: Got a lot of time for the spaceman. Right. So, just so we know, 'cause I know Riggs is gonna get all like uppity about this, but he's been cleared of all charges.

He's never actually was, he's been

Sidey: quitted, but He hasn't been

Pete: on everything. Yeah. Yeah. So cleared of everything. So, yeah, innocent until proven guilty, which he was proven innocent,

Sidey: I, I don't think that's what happened. But

Pete: don't it's not, no, he paid off. He paid off all the guys he raped is what happened.

But

yeah,

see, I knew, I knew he was gonna get up.

Listen, what

Reegs: [00:20:00] I don't think he's gonna be making much of

a comeback.

Pete: He has already made a

Reegs: Yeah. With some fucking director from Guernsey. I mean, how good could it be?

Pete: Well, you gotta start somewhere Riggs. Yeah, but

can,

Reegs: a guy who's got some thumbs. how

fucking

Pete: good an actor he

Sidey: we talk about his,

Pete: the films

Sidey: his 1990s era.

Especially 'cause you've got usual suspects. seven LA Confidential and American Beauty.

Pete: Yeah,

Cris: yeah.

That is

Sidey: that is strong.

Cris: solid.

User

Pete: suspects in seven in the same year. Like that is, that's two brilliant films in,

Sidey: Uncredited in seven as well.

Pete: Is he? Yeah. Oh, because you don't

yeah, yeah, Yeah,

Sidey: Publicity around him.

Pete: Ah, interesting. Yeah. Like, yeah, all the stuff at a confidential, loads of,

Cris: I like the, the 21 as well. He was good in that. He's like a blackjack

Sidey: He's the, he grooms

Reegs: MIT

Sidey: He grooms the

Cris: I, I quite liked him in that. He was quite, he was quite good and they double cross him at the end, I think. yeah, he's quite [00:21:00] good. I can't remember any, any more niche ones,

Sidey: He is a baby driver who also,

sort of grooming people in

Cris: Yeah. Yeah. That's good.

Do

Pete: Do you, you share a birthday with him? Do you share the propensity to molest boys

Sidey: boys?

Cris: I was nearly molested a couple of times as a

Pete: No, I mean, do you like molesting boys yourself?

Not, no, not. Did you like being molested when you were a boy?

Cris: I didn't like,

Pete: know that

Cris: didn't like being molested.

And I, well, I didn't know much better, but I didn't really like it. But I also, I've never molested anyone.

Pete: Oh,

Reegs: Well, it is good to clear that. up, I suppose.

boring.

Cris: I was a bit of a pyromaniac as a

Sidey: so was I,

Cris: I, I I was honestly, I was a bit of a dick. If I, now with my adult head Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: I'm thinking about it. Honestly, I would set so many things on

Sidey: So did I, I used to, I used to get this is really off topic, but I used to get my dad's aftershave and do patterns on the carpet and then set.

fire to,

his,

Pete: Yeah,

Reegs: me and Tom used to make bombs and then Tom,

Pete: there's a lot of that, like, I don't wanna say too much.

[00:22:00] Craven's got a bit of a history where that sort of stuff is concerned as well. I'm the only person that never set, I must have set fire to

Sidey: Yeah.

It was all going so well for Spacey, you know, really good cv. And then he was obviously on the theater and he was in charge of the Old Vic and

Reegs: the House of Cards.

Sidey: It house the cards.

Reegs: Oh, it's almost like a metaphor.

Sidey: And when all the accusations came out and there was all the legal troubles about his gropey sort of Rapy nurse. Yeah. They had to digitally erase him and replaced him with Christopher Plummer in

house skies. It was the first time

that'd ever been done.

Pete: Plum done something or is it, I think in, there's a film in which he plays like a Nazi

Reegs: They've replaced him with Gary

Cris: the

Sidey: Inside

Reegs: and then we keep getting this wrong. Jimmy Sel.

Cris: good. Yeah.

The, I can tell you, sorry, can I say one thing about the House of Cards where my brother messaged me?

I was just kind of chatting to him and, and then he, he messaged me and he's like, oh, I'm watching this. I was kind of chatting to him. He's like, oh, you need to watch. This is really good. Is this thing with Kevin Space. And I was like, oh, is it the one where he becomes president? He's like, fuck off.

Because at the [00:23:00] beginning, he's not the president. He's like a Secretary of State or something. And only in the second season or something. Like, I've never seen it, but he was like, oh, thanks for telling me. I was like, oh, I don't fucking know. I, I've never seen it. I just heard of it and he looks like he's the president.

So

Reegs: yeah.

Cris: Yeah. Unlucky. Anyway, sorry to interrupt your

spacey moment.

Sidey: Best supporting actor Oscar for

Reegs: CapEx.

Sidey: Usual Suspects. Yeah. Best actor. Best John Actor for

American

Beauty.

Cris: American Beauty. Yes.

Pete: American

Cris: American Beauty. Yeah. American Beauty.

Sidey: off with a wanking in The shower. Like any good

Cris: The bag. Did he wank in the bag?

You know the bag that floats around?

Reegs: I

think that's just

Sidey: no, that was the, that was the weird kid from next door. who liked to watch the

bag.

he just

Reegs: gets picked up by the wind and

Cris: With all these accusations, you would think that someone wanked in that bag?

Sidey: No,

he'd wank onto a

Pete: That's okay though. But like, wanking

Reegs: bit of

Sidey: Bag, wanking. yeah.

Pete: Banking.

Sidey: Should we, Should

we move on to the Statman?

Reegs: well I just had, just while we were

Cris: wait. Riggs has got stats.

Reegs: [00:24:00] No, I was just gonna say, just to change it up just for a minute, I tried to imagine what it would be like if they did each other's films.

Sidey: Oh, okay.

Reegs: Oh, okay. So,

Helen Meen in any,

of the ham roles

of course is great, but particularly I think we can all agree as Chao in Crank. Yes.

Helen Mirin and

Sidey: But they, she was his mother

in the Fast franchise,

Reegs: Yes, she was. Yeah. Yeah. She would also be very good in a couple of Kevin space as John Doe in seven, I think,

Helen Mein in seven and as

Lex Luther in Superman.

returns Kate Beckinsale in Spacey's World works really well. She could be Burnham in American Beauty, having a midlife crisis over a teenage girl.

Next door. fucking hot.

And calendar girls.

Pete: pants again

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: for purely aesthetic reasons. Sandra Bullock in Lock Stock or his Deckard. Sure. In Fast and Furious. Jason Statham is the Queen.

Yes, or caught in a love interest between Bennett Ben Ale and Josh Hartner in Pearl Harbor.

Pete: Well, he's such a strong character actor, so Statham.

Reegs: He could do it. couldn't he? [00:25:00] Or flirting

Cris: chested as well, so he could do that.

Reegs: flirting

with Keen Reeves in speed. Or in the Lake House as well. Both those movies. And then this is a really good one, Kevin Spacey as the demanding boss who forces himself on his assistant in

the proposal. That

one you can imagine, also while you were sleeping, where he pretends to be a comatose man's fiance and lies to his grieving relatives. Miss Congeniality Undercover. A beauty pageant. Definitely you can imagine that one. But definitely different movies or leather clad in the Underworld.

Franchise would be super.

Pete: horny. That would

Cris: that would be sexy.

Reegs: So yeah, that's them doing each other's movies.

Cris: just doing each other

Sidey: strong.

Staman

then. Yeah.

Born on the 26th of July.

Yes.

Of 1967. In the Shire.

Pete: as in, in like Middle Earth. Well,

Sidey: Well, yeah. Shire Brook. Darbyshire.

InTown.

Cris: In Hobbiton?

Pete: Yeah. In Orson,

Sidey: he's been

active since 1998,

Pete: Well,

he was lock stock was his breakout

Sidey: He [00:26:00] Was he was a co he was a Commonwealth mate or something?

He was a commonwealth diver,

Yeah. Yeah. And then he was a model. And then he was

let, let's call him an actor. Let's say he's an actor.

Reegs: he was

discovered like on an East end stool. Hawking Dodgy.

Sidey: He was a,

Pete: so he was

Sidey: he's Adel boy,

Pete: he does at the beginning of Flock stock.

Cris: Yeah, yeah.

Pete: okay.

Sidey: So

it it didn't start out as a fighter in the films.

Cris: No. But have you seen his, have you ever seen his Instagram? Whenever he goes on holiday and he's on these yachts, there's always a picture of him diving from the top of the yacht. That's his, it's, oh,

it's so

Sidey: his mo. S

yeah,

so started off as like a bit of Del Boy, you know?

white Boy lock. stock, and then just becomes like an action hero

somehow.

Pete: Yeah. I mean, he pretty much plays like an extended version of his character in lock stock in snatch. It's like, it, it like he's more kind of prominent in it. Yeah. But then yeah, it's just like, but now he's made 70 trillion of exactly the

Cris: But what was,

Reegs: well, he's refined the

Cris: What [00:27:00] was the, so you've got lock stock, you go snatch, and then what was the next one?

Reegs: The transporter, was

Pete: well, no, no, no. I was gonna bring up, you mean in Revolver? Revolver? That was the one I was gonna bring up because.

Cris: Yes. Mr. Maca

Pete: haven't got a fucking

Cris: what, that is

Pete: how that film ends, like what it's all about.

And I was gonna ask if anyone

Sidey: it, I haven't seen it, you've

Pete: it, you've

Cris: seen it, I've seen it about three times. I still don't understand it. It's

Reegs: Which one is it? With the

Pete: Ray?

Reegs: With the,

Pete: No, no, no.

Cris: Andre 3000

what is the big pussy? The guy from Sopranos.

Reegs: Okay. I've seen it.

Pete: Yeah. So he, so it starts out essentially the, the premise is that he he's got a system that he can that he's learnt because he's in prison, he's in solitary confinement, but he can hear the guys in the cells left and right of him, and over time through like books that get delivered to the cells and so on.

They teach him the, the method, the system or whatever, it's, so they can be any like casino. Right. And Ray Otter runs a casino and is this like, he's amazing in it.

Cris: Yeah,

Pete: just, he's [00:28:00] basically co like, just constantly, he hasn't even got a sun bed. He's got like a sun room where he is just like glistening and gold in his, in

Cris: he's like, he's like Lucas.

Pete: Yeah. And, and the thing is, I was so like let down by the ending of the film because I love all of the film up to what happens at the end, which I'm still not even sure if he lives or he dies or any of it was real,

Cris: or, if

it's

all in his head or he is still in prison or Yeah,

Pete: absolutely. None of it makes

Cris: I

Pete: I've even tried reading up as to what it means and it

Sidey: still no one knows.

Pete: it still didn't.

Cris: I can tell you the first time I watched this film regular listeners might have heard this before, but. My cousin used to work at a ketamine factory and, and I had a bin bag of ketamine.

Yeah. In the house. And the first time I watched this film, I was really high on ketamine and I watched this and honestly I've tried just to kind of, because I was so confused by this film and we used to play

Reegs: have been the Ketamine

Cris: was very young and we used to play this game that you would have [00:29:00] lines of ketamine under the keyboard of the computer and each time someone pings a message on the Yahoo Messenger or the MSN one of them, you had to do a line of ketamine.

Pete: And

Cris: then it was while I was

Pete: someone was spamming you.

Like you being a

Sidey: never me mentioned this on the pod before

No.

I would remember this.

Reegs: no, I feel like I would've

Cris: Alright anyway, sorry. But that's what happened and that's why I remember this revolt and I tried to watch it.

Sober a few times and it still didn't make

Pete: any sense. Doesn't make

any

Cris: No, it's really, I, I really enjoyed it still. So, yeah. And he was also in the, the priest? He was the priest in the Jim Vinny Jones football factory. Yes. The, I

Sidey: no,

Cris: called

Pete: The

Reegs: No road

Pete: monk in, in

Sidey: The one in prison.

Pete: Yeah. It's the, it's a remake of the US film

Cris: Yeah. The longest yard. The longest yard was the American version.

Reegs: Yeah.

Pete: A mean machine. Mean machine with Vinny Jones and stuff. Yeah. Which is a good, good fun film.

Sidey: He was like tough guy, tough guy, sort of thing. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, he's in the expendables. He is like one of the Hollywood

Reegs: icons,

Sidey: like super,

Cris: think Transporter was [00:30:00] before that,

Sidey: I know. But it's like all of a sudden he was like, just seen as this like, action. You are like wait, like, and the expendable, you didn't have like. Fucking loads of them. We we're not in it at, At First

he was, he was Stallone? him

Reegs: Sea, Gal or someone like

Sidey: ln. And, and He like, Okay.

fine.

Pete: think in, in between. 'cause he did the, the remake of oh, what's the f The Italian job.

So in that he was like the, you know, drives a car bit as he starts off trying to put on an accent, like, and then gives up halfway through the film and just goes back to like being a geezer. But that was kind of like, you know, he was like actiony car, drivey hero e hit with the ladies. And then I think people just, obviously the audience like in the US like jumped on that.

And then now he makes exactly the same film a million times over.

Sidey: Some of 'em are okay. Some of 'em are good fun. I like the beekeeper one.

The last two that I've seen has been fucking shit.

You

want, I want him to do something else.

Yeah. You

Pete: he can do it 'cause he's done it previously.

Sidey: Even a, certain, you know, like even Arnie did, like

kindergarten cup.

or something, Like

a sendup of

1. it. doesn't, no, but Just [00:31:00] gimme

Pete: Yeah. Something out of

Sidey: Because the one I watched home, Fucking, whatever it

Cris: the working man,

Sidey: was dreadful working man was.

and dread. It was, It's like chat beef GPT movie. That it's just so fucking formula. It's a joke. I

think he's better than that. Like Hobson Shaw. I really like that.

I think

that's

great.

Pete: what we did like was the Wrath of man, wasn't it? Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, I really Liked that. That

Sidey: So I think he's okay, but I just don't think you get to see the best of him And His recent output to me

has

been

Pete: he's like one of the highest kind of like

Sidey: he's super prolific.

Reegs: He is dependable.

though, isn't he? you know, and

Cris: well, he'll give you revenue I think

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: because people know everybody likes an action movie.

Everybody likes

Pete: he's never given me any I know

Cris: you, but as a, sorry about

Sidey: Hobson Shaw that.

did 750 mil.

revenue. Yeah,

Reegs: a

fair few mill.

Sidey: mil. Yeah,

Pete: a lot of mil.

Cris: Is that him and the Rock?

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: Jesus Christ. 750

million. ah, en

Pete: of the other Fast and

Sidey: No, it's real. It's real good.

Pete: Don't believe you.

Reegs: Oh, it's great.

Sidey: Yeah.[00:32:00]

Pete: who have we, who have we got left?

Reegs: like a Superpowered. Motorbike.

Cris: Yeah. Just mis miscon congeniality

Pete: I don't wanna watch it.

Sidey: Sandra Bullock. Yes. We watched Demolition Man. Didn't mean for the pod,

which we really liked.

Reegs: And she was great, in it?

Yes.

Sidey: She's Super

hot in it. We've never watched Speed, but I think we've

Reegs: talked, talked about

it

Sidey: a lot. That was the big breakthrough.

Cris: it individually, but not

Sidey: not for the pod. Yeah. But I think We've spoken

about it a few times. and She's great in that, that, like that the breakthrough role for

her. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Gravity was a pretty

Sidey: she.

Reegs: experience.

Sidey: Oscar nominated didn't win for that one.

The Blind Side. I think she won.

the Oscar for Was it

Cris: did, she was, did she do the Bird Box?

Sidey: the

Reegs: she did do Bird books. Yeah. blind

Sidey: one or The, sound

Cris: the, the, the one where you Yeah. Box. I went to the cinema for that.

Sidey: Crumbs.

I thought that was a Netflix thing.

Reegs: Yeah, But maybe they did give it a cinema and release it, don't they?

Cris: The first one was definitely on the cinema, because I've seen it at the cinema.

And it was [00:33:00] okay.

Reegs: But I like

that kind of horror movie. It's got, you know, a high concept or whatever, monsters,

and

Cris: yeah.

you

Reegs: you're not allowed to

look at 'em or something

Cris: yeah, I can't actually remember. I always confuse that one in a quiet

Reegs: Yeah. kind of,

That's hearing this is seeing

Cris: yeah.

Reegs: I dunno. Something

Sidey: When's the smelling one?

Reegs: Yeah,

Cris: is the human centipede

Reegs: You'd be gone first.

Pete: Yeah. Sorry. Make no smells. Sorry guys.

So, talking to Netflix, once I saw a film, the most recent film that I've seen her in is The Forgiven. Did you see that on Netflix? She plays like a one, isn't it? Yeah, an ex. She's like an ex-convict. She's been inside for 20 years for, for moer.

Reegs: Sandra Billick.

Pete: yeah. And it's really gritty and she's kind of, she plays it I mean, she's still quite hot in it, but they make her look a bit kind of like, you know, rugged and lesbian and, and is that okay to say Who cares?

And it's the, the film kind of, I, I didn't like, the only bit I didn't like about it is that it [00:34:00] kind of like, has a bit of a happy ending or like a, a, a satisfactory resolution, let's say. But the

Reegs: all a bit too neat.

Pete: yeah, but the film itself was really like gr it's like definitely the grittiest thing. I've seen her in, 'cause it's normally like, quite lighthearted, even like speed is still, you know, it's, it's action.

But there's, you know, there's levity in there and things. But this was like pretty, like, not bleak, but like a, a good solid acting performance.

Sidey: she also got into the producer side of the game as well. So Miss Congenial and a few others, I think she was the producer of so made a good bit of cash, but also, you know, she's involved in making the films as well as performing in them. She also seems to be completely controversy free, as far as I can. work out. Yeah. Never hear a bad word about her. No.

Pete: Yeah.

Like Spacey. Yeah.

Cris: Perfect.

Pete: Everyone on the 26th of July, there's absolutely

Reegs: fine and perfect and no problems

Pete: at all.

Sidey: She is in that Oceans Eight thing though, which I just don't like. [00:35:00]

Pete: Yeah, I mean, she's, everyone lets

Sidey: at

some point, Yeah. But if I had to put like a film forward, like, have you seen Gravity? Yes.

Excellent. I really like that.

Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. And Miss Congeniality and the proposal, They're all all good. Solid affair as well.

Sidey: Nice.

Pete: yeah. What are we gonna do? Are we gonna put films forward or are we just gonna make Chris himself the entire top five?

Sidey: is the top five. I think. Yeah. is

Reegs: Oh, Congratulations.

Pete: done, Chris.

Happy birthday.

Cris: Okay.

Sidey: we've done

at least

one Kubrick film before we did Clockwork Orange,

but

I think that might be it.

We did

2010, but that's

Reegs: over the cookies.

Sidey: not him. That's

Reegs: that

Cris: Hitchcock.

Pete: We've done The

Sidey: Shining.

No, We

did Do The Shining.

Reegs: Did we?

Sidey: No, we did, did we? Yeah,

Pete: we did.

Reegs: We did. The Shin.

Pete: I'd never seen it.

Sidey: We did The Shin. Yeah, that's I probably nominated to troll you. Yeah,

yeah. So this, this could be, This could be a. Kubrick hat trick

Cris: also.

Sorry. Before we start, can I ask you, Pete Mm. What is your opinion on falls? Did you vote for the Emo band?

Sidey: Oh, fallout Boy, I said I how did you as a big [00:36:00] Fallout Boy fan.

Reegs: Is that

Sidey: week?

Cris: We

Pete: so no. So fall, no fall out boy is shit. I, what I used to do is troll Tino, like a guy that we, we used to work with and said that he loved them.

Sidey: Medium used to say that you're a big Offspring

fan. Yes. Yes you did.

Pete: In fairness, I did. Have you remember those old Coke Can Stereo high Fis? Yeah. I had one of those with some light CD, like, holes in it. And I did have two offspring CDs. Wow. Like early

Reegs: I had The offspring the first album,

Pete: offspring. Not like pretty fly for a white guy. Shit. But like before that

Sidey: you look a bit like noodles. Those glasses actually. Thank you. Yeah. That segues really nice into full metal jackets.

I Think it starts off with just very stark black with the white right. of.

Stanley Kubrick Production

gone bang. Full metal jacket. Straight in.

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: Straight into some

Marine Corps.

Pete: Well, straight into what, what is the, it's basically two acts, this, this

Sidey: it's a film, of two halves. Big [00:37:00] time

Pete: into act one, which is 45 minutes about, of like just fucking mental torment.

Sidey: It starts off

with them in the, in the

barber chair. Getting their,

hair shaved off, getting the Start

of the

dehumanization of them all. And to be honest, private Powell looks fucking mental hits.

He's, he's got

all fucking

Reegs: Vincent. Donofrio in a Really iconic role. Really? Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. He's probably never been better than this.

And yeah, it's, it's the, the new recruits, the Marines in the, the training corps, whatever you wanna call it.

Reegs: Yeah. It's basic training, isn't it?

Sidey: Did I think we, they

Cris: that basic? Jesus Christ. Is that

Reegs: Well, they're shipping people. people are being drafted and sent out to Vietnam?

Sidey: This is during Vietnam. They are.

stood,

in line after the haircut,

Cris: South, North Carolina? Somewhere where Tallulah's from.

Sidey: There's definitely

a connect.

And they stood there. And this is where we got our first introduction to gunnery Sergeant l Hartman who is an absolute force of

Reegs: What's it? R Lee Emmy is

Sidey: R Lee Lee r [00:38:00] Imi

Reegs: R Lee.

Sidey: no sorry, R Lee. Imi

who

I think was a former,

Reegs: Mm,

Pete: yes, he was a marine drill instructor

Sidey: and

Reegs: he was on set to bring authenticity to it.

And the guy who played the guess, guess he was originally cast as the drill instructor, but obviously

Sidey: mother.

Pete: No, not animal. The guy in the helicopter who's like

Sidey: Oh, right, okay.

Reegs: Are they ever women and children some.

Sidey: Yeah. So he just starts off immediately just. Like the most savage, just screaming, insulting.

He says racist stuff, but he says, you're all worthless maggots in my eyes.

Reegs: Yeah, they're all equally worthless. The core is the only thing that's important. So

Sidey: core, he says that a million times and he's just in people's face and it's just about breaking people down, and making people all like nothing and then building them back up as so that they're willing to just do whatever you say, throw their lives like down basically.

And

Reegs: Well, they [00:39:00] gradually earn his approval, right? Yeah. Like through being not shit.

Pete: Yeah.

But I said he wants to take their fucking, strip their personality away. he doesn't want

Sidey: them being No, you, you can't be an individual

Pete: or

Cris: Yeah, because the guy, what's his face, joker laughs and tells him something.

Sidey: mutter something like John Wayne. He keeps in his John Wayne impression, and he, he, he sort of mutters something, but you're clearly gonna be heard. I mean,

is there's

one voice allowed in his fucking room?

Reegs: But how early on, is it that pile is struggling? I mean. is it Straight.

Pete: not straight away,

Sidey: We, we get

Pete: But, he's lar he's, I mean he's not like hugely fat, but he's one of the larger guys in it.

So he gets I mean, I dunno what Gomer pile is, like the because his name's Leonard something or other. And, and what, what the drill sergeant does is gives him all

Sidey: immediately nicknames. Him

Pete: Yeah. And he calls him Joker 'cause he thinks he's making a joker,

Sidey: Private snowboard. What the fuck

Pete: You like the cowboy.

'cause he is from Texas, isn't it? He is like,

Sidey: steers and queer

Pete: steers and queer and you don't look like a steer to me.

Sidey: And then pile. Yeah. Look, so he's he [00:40:00] shouts at em a lot. We get all that and then we see them then sort of marching and singing. And this is like a great bit of cubic stuff because he loves his symmetry and they're singing a song.

And then that song continues. But the, the, the visuals change to them on the assault course. And that's all framed really nice in the frame, But it's at either

Pete: that's sunset. Yeah.

Sidey: orange. But they're still singing the song. And this is where we start to see the pile can't really. Keep up in the fitness?

states? No, he

and he's probably

not that sharp at all either.

So he's, he's kind of failing and

Reegs: I can't remember exactly how this suggestion comes, but it basically comes from Hartman to the rest of the crew to, to, to the rest of

the team to like

sort him out. There must be a way

Sidey: No,

Pete: no, what he does to

Cris: he has the donut. No.

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: It's, it's on inspection. And he's, he's looking at them for like how clean their hands are. He shouts toe jam at someone. He's, and then he gets part and he's like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. And he's, He, hasn't locked his foot locker. And he goes, let me help you out. [00:41:00] he lifts it up, chucks it on the floor and then he just freezes.

And he is like, what the fuck is that? And he, he's taking a donut from the mess hall. And brought it back. And then he says, I've tried fucking time and time and again. To get you to fucking tow the line from now on. Every time you fuck up, it's there them but getting punished. And so it is been, it, it's quite drawn out.

It's, it's fucking awful. Like the the toll it takes on him. 'cause it, it is fucking relentless. And

Reegs: him eat the donut, doesn't

Sidey: He says, you eat

Cris: Well, they're doing pushups.

Reegs: Oh,

man.

Sidey: they're earning it. You eat it. But you know these,

You

can't

have like fucking idiots sending him out is what they're trying to say.

Reegs: I know that.

there's,

Sidey: But they are humans, right? So it's awful. And he's clearly not cut out for

Cris: And then they beat him up with a sock,

Sidey: and, and, and this is, it's been, it's been coming that he's kind of letting the team down and he says, he so he's been, joke has been put in charge of, of trying to bring him up to speed.

And they've got a bit of a connection where Leonard thinks they have anyway and he's sort of confiding in him and [00:42:00] no one likes me. And he is like, it's not that they don't like you, it's just that you keep messing up and we see a few things where he is having to suck his thumb as a punishment while they, do

Pete: doing burpee.

They're do, and I, I was watching it. I think they do like 20 burpees just as the camera's panning around like that, that's fucking three burpees of shit. And they're actually having to do

Sidey: And whenever Something

bad happens. The camera, is it, there's like a, a blue sort of tint on

the Yeah.

the Thing.

And we see him in bed. He's been told to bunk with Joker

he

does feel like he's got a bit of rapport with Joka. They're trying to get him good and he's Joka Looks at him a couple times. He's talking to his rifle as he is putting it back together. He's starting, his mental state is really deteriorating.

But it's it's cowboy. Yeah. He looks across and then you see them all get outta bed and he comes across and they put a blanket over pile. They put joker, sorry. Cowboy puts like a flannel across his mouth. A towel across his mouth so He can't move or scream and they just palm on him with bars of soap wrapped up

intact. fucking awful.

I was wondering out how they actually did it 'cause it looks so [00:43:00] real.

They just palm him and then he looks across. He's crying. It's fucking awful. He's crying. and He looks at Joker. Yeah. And Cowboy says to him, fucking do it, do it. And he fucking bats him like five or six times. And you think that's, that's it for Par. Like he's completely gone after that. You see, he does like the Kubrick stare with the, you remember like Alex.

de Large and

Cris: Yeah.

The head

Sidey: The head down, and the eyes up. like It's this deranged

look in

Pete: then a grin, like, yeah,

Sidey: but this guy's got access to fucking, you know, rifles and shit. And

he actually

Reegs: for a while it starts to, straighten him out.

Sidey: He's on the range.

He's a really good shot. And, And

like,

Hartman's, like, fuck found something you can do, found

Pete: good at, yeah.

Sidey: And when they get to graduation that he's reading out the jobs and he gets the joker and he is like, he's got like a journalist. role. He is like Fucking, like erased.

And then he goes, pal, infantry, you fucking made it. Like, and he's thinking, oh, you know, he is done it. And then we go back to this blue filter on the, on the lens. And the music is like dark. like Gloomy, synth music. And he is like, uhoh. And you're like, oh. And it's jokers on like night watch [00:44:00] duty that night. And he's pasting up and down and the, the toilet block is called the

head.

Yeah.

And he kind of clocks at the door. Might be a little bit of, Johnny sort of goes in and Leonard's just sat there doing his gun routine.

Putting his gun

back together.

Pete: But with a, with that look

Sidey: his face. And, And

then he gets the magazine and he is putting live rounds. He's clipping live rounds into the magazine.

and Joker is like, Leonard we're gonna get fucking like serious boing if you don't get back into bed. And he stands up and he starts doing the thing, you know, putting the gun.

Pete: is, my

Reegs: my rifle. yeah,

Cris: yeah. But he also asked, is that live ammunition. Yeah, clip in the clip. Full metal jacket

Sidey: You're getting nice title drop

full.

Pete: Yeah. Because by this stage he's been just completely like, you know, broken down to the point where all he does is recite all of the mantras to do with like, you know, the guns and, and

Sidey: It's Completely gone

His mental state is just

completely disintegrated. Obviously there's a load of commotions. So Hartman comes in,

Reegs: in his boxer shorts,

Yeah.

Sidey: and he shouts and screams [00:45:00] and Joker says it's a private duty to inform you that he has got live rounds and he fucking has a go.

1. You Like, Might wanna deescalate this. And he just drops the rifle down and guns him down in slow motion.

Big like chest, chest. Explosion.

Reegs: Oh, the squibbs in this movie are off the charts

Sidey: fade to black. And then these boots are made for walk

in.

Pete: no, no,

Cris: no. He shoots

Sidey: well. Yeah, he kills himself.

Yeah. I suppose we shouldn't get that, That's

Pete: that one out the back of that, I was just sat there going, how the fuck do they do?

How do

Sidey: they good technical achievement on that? one.

Pete: brains all over the back of the wall, straight from

Sidey: saw the mopping up in there earlier. and I thought, that's a Really

Pete: Yeah. Oh, that, that's

gonna go to waste. Yeah. That, but that, that, that open 45 is, is it's pretty relentless. Like, there's not a fucking, it doesn't pause for breath once there's, again, there's no like, break from it at all.

And it, and it is just literally just like reducing these guys fucking mental states to, to just be like, you know, automatons. And so, and it,

Sidey: If you get, if you get ordered to go out

and, it's Probably certain death. These people have to, you have to know that they're gonna do they're ordered. Yeah. Yeah. So That's

why they're, [00:46:00] they're just broken down into like relentless order following machines. One thing Kubrick's famous for is like, take after take after take, after take. But with

Ermi it's like the only time in his career would be like one or two takes. He was so good. And it was so impressive. And he and and Adlibbed like,

Reegs: yeah. And a lot of those are quite long takes as

Sidey: Yeah. And the only one, the only one where he, he went for cubit was the jelly donut.

That was 37 takes. Otherwise it was like two, three takes. max. So he was like star of the show. He really is like, He

Reegs: probably wanted the actors on set to feel a little bit pissed off. Like,

Sidey: they, they were not

allowed to, they were not allowed to mix. Like when it was, you know, not filming cameras went rolling, They were like, you stay away from them.

Like you gotta have that distance and

fucking Ruthless.

Pete: But this, so the Hartman, well the actor that plays him is obviously, this is what he has done. Like for, for a live, for a profession and you know, in the Marine Corps,

Sidey: even his posture, the way. he holds himself in the film, His arms are

Pete: because like, so I, I had a conversation with you when, when you, you know, you'd watch the film and so on [00:47:00] and, and I hadn't, you know, I, I, I didn't know that it was only afterwards, after I'd spoken to you that he really was a, a you know, a drill instructor or whatever.

So that must be the methods and the like that they used. And this must be, that must have been his bread and butter. Like you imagine it every, every term, I dunno what the terminology would be, seasoned term, whatever the draft or whatever it may be. And no, a whole load of fucking like green. Like some of them will be shitting their pants.

Some of 'em will be all like cock shore and like, don't give a fuck and don't respect any authority or whatever. And they're just, you know, but they're, they're all there together. And he must have had to literally actually do that and use all of that. Sort of like to, and I know it is quite, you know, cartoonish at times because it's just so fucking over the top and so on.

But that must just have been the method. And you see it sometimes in these modern day things with like SES who dares wins and stuff, and they're like fucking, like demeaning them and embarrassing them and humiliating them and everything, but it's to put them under the fucking sort of pressure. Like they're gonna be under way, way worse pressure out in the field.

So [00:48:00] yeah,

Sidey: joker stays relatively consistent throughout the movie though.

Yeah. He's

like cracking one eye. The very first time we see him gets bollocking. Yeah,

But he's still doing

that, you know, towards the, end. certainly even out in the field, he's still like doing his John Wayne stuff all the time.

But we you know, like I said before we go.

now into Nam

straight into sucky. Sucky, I think.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. Straight in,

Sidey: sitting

outside the shop.

and

Pete: Me. Love you. Long time.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: I remember school everyone was a fan of reciting this sort

Reegs: All the time. Yeah, all the time. that

Pete: Misa Horne,

Cris: This is another one that Kiran knew all the,

all the ah, sucky suck.

Reegs: She, yeah.

Pete: You

must have had a great night between Alula and me. So horny, it was like,

Cris: yeah.

Sidey: it's, it is really,

Two

Cris: in a row.

Sidey: It's following in Matthew MOD's

Joker now in the press Corps. Doing the kind of propaganda like king and country sort of

stuff in black.

Reegs: He

Pete: I knew it'd be right up your alley.

Reegs: Like superb in this, isn't he? Matthew

Meine, like, he's

absolutely brilliant.

Pete: Which one's he,

Reegs: joke Joker.

because Oh, [00:49:00] okay. yeah.

He's sort of seeing the movie through his eyes. So

Sidey: you can see his character. 'cause the, the, the,

the,

guy in charge of the,

The detail they're on. Yeah, yeah.

The guy in charge of the. Paper, whatever the hell it is.

that they're writing for Stars and Stripes.

He's like, what the fuck have you, where'd you get that back? And he is got a piece like,

badge, But he is also got born to kill on his helmet. Like an ironic thing. He's not gonna kill anyone, at least in his mind. And then till eventually he crossed his path with cowboy again.

And they've, they're on a mission to,

Reegs: he's like, eager to, is he cowboy's A bit eager to like, prove

Cris: tell you why because there's the, the Vietnamese Christmas or whatever it's called. Yeah. And there's a peace arrangement. The tat

Reegs: Tet Offensive.

Cris: there's, there's always the, there's always a piece and he's like, oh, there's been movement.

There's been this. And his newspaper boss is like. I'll tell you what it is. All these people, all the vie congs, and I'm not gonna say what they call them. Yeah. They're going to light fireworks and they're gonna go [00:50:00] to all the temples. Then everyone's gonna have a barbecue and shut the fuck up. And lo and behold their military basin, Dick nun gets attacked.

Reegs: They're all getting high and playing

Cris: Yeah. And then the next day or after the attack, they, they shoot everyone and whatever, and then the next day he is like, right, you and har No, the other guy. The his

Sidey: joker and thingy gotta go with

Cris: yeah, he's like, oh, you are going to bum fuck whatever in the middle of the sticks. And his mate is like, yeah, I'm coming with you.

Okay. You go

Sidey: this is

where they get in the helicopter

with the guy shooting

Cris: like, oh why do you, why do you let him come with me? He's like, why are you still here?

I don't care. This

is done. You're going. And then they're in the helicopter with.

Sidey: they, they need, They,

need to Put something

in the stars and stripes. for

the, because this,

there's no one at

home supports this War.

Pete: Yeah. So they want like positive

Sidey: they want some propaganda. so then they get, they go out into the field, but I can't remember exactly what it is that Cowboys doing.

They, They,

just,

want, they, want the march to

Pete: because they've got a couple of like dead, like [00:51:00] Viet Kong there, there's one who's just sat there with a

Sidey: oh, it's fucking grim of it.

Cris: Yeah.

Pete: yeah. Yeah. With this cat down.

Cris: there.

They've just been on a mission and the guy's like, oh, do you know platoon one? Just around the corner there mate. And then they see him and he meets mother,

Sidey: animal. Mother is a fucking lunatic. Yeah. I imagine there'd be loads of people like that.

Pete: Yeah. Yeah. Like

Cris: That's a proper sociopath. But he, in the war, he's called a war hero.

Right. That, that he's, that's just how it is.

Pete: Yeah.

But he, he speaks really slowly as well. He is obviously, like,

Sidey: he's got so many, Like so much munitions on him. He's got belts and

Cris: full metal jacket.

Pete: I've got a question. And they, they all it so including like jokers, he's still like tall up in case he, you know,

Sidey: Yeah. He's in the field now. Yeah.

Pete: Yeah, exactly. But they, they hang their grenades like on the, on the front of them. And I'm thinking like, well, there, there's gonna be shots for, just takes a fucking sniper to like pick one of these grenades

Sidey: Gonna get some

good sniper

action coming up.

Pete: Yeah. Well we are, but like surely that's not the best place to like hang your [00:52:00] grenades.

Sidey: suppose. You need it where you can.

Dunno

Pete: Well I, yeah. To grab 'em. But they're, they're right there. Which like,

Reegs: they're probably engineered not

to explode when they're shot

Maybe

Pete: Possibly that

Sidey: I think if you're getting shot in the chest.

least

last thing you're worried about.

Pete: Yeah. But they must have like some sort of bullet proof something

Reegs: I wonder if you could make them bulletproof and explosive at the same time. So they could be,

Pete: I

Reegs: wearable explosive armor. Yeah, I will.

Pete: and I want you to deliver it next week.

Reegs: Wearable, explosive. armor. That sounds like a good idea.

Sidey: Basically

he's gonna culminate and whoever's in charge of this gets killed and Cowboy has to take over.

Cris: Yes.

Pete: Yeah.

Oh,

and, and your man with the machine gun that's shooting everyone out the helicopter, he gets blown up. He's walking behind the tank and he gets fucking Yeah.

Sidey: They realize they've gone the wrong way.

And

they, And cab's like, ah,

fuck. They're looking at the map and they're almost like, got it the wrong way around

and

trying to figure it out.

Radioing a few people and they cab's like, fuck, we need to go across there. And he's like pointing across this big fucking co This was filmed in somewhere, like [00:53:00] CRO or something, like, was it? Yeah. it's in like, it's like

Reegs: the

beginning bit is in Canary. Wha yeah. It's Canary Wharf. Well that's

Pete: like before everything was developed, obviously it was just like wasteland and shit.

Yeah. Oh, another thing, so when Cowboy becomes like the platoon leader or whatever, but like, interesting as well, is that like the, the, the leader for the former leader, like, you know, he dies or he, they're trying to resuscitate him or whatever it is, and then he dies, and then there's this. Five, six seconds of like, you know, they're sake God.

You know, like mourning him and then turning around literally to cowboy and going like, oh, you're the leader.

Sidey: Congratulations. It's phoned in, isn't It's phoned in. Yeah. Yeah.

Pete: it's, and then immediately it's almost like there's a, there's like not fanfare, but a little bit of like, oh, everyone's like smiling and happy for him because the other guy's literally just been shot and he's now in charge.

It's fucking crazy. And I guess it was probably like, like that, it's like, that's sad. We'll deal with that for 10 seconds. Okay. That's happy 'cause you're in charge now. We'll deal with that for 10 seconds and now let's carry on with the nonsense.

Sidey: Yeah. There's not much time to [00:54:00] fuck about here. Yeah. They've got to like.

Change direction and head across the thing.

It's really exposed. So they take cover behind some fucking like bombed out area and they just order this

Reegs: it's all bombed out buildings, isn't

Sidey: Yeah. They order this guy to run out as do a bit of recon and he gets quite a long way. And then is just, the camera then changes to be right on him. in a slow mo. We just see a sniper shot, take him out

He's called

Eight Ball.

Pete: Yeah, I know.

Sidey: Yeah. And he's just prone on the floor. And this is like classic sniper tactics where he's then screaming out for help and they're like, we can't go to him because there's obviously if

Reegs: they dunno where

Pete: they're just firing, like using all the ammunition, just firing in the general direction.

Sidey: he's far as, you're not shooting anything. You're just shooting. like rubble. It's a complete Waste

of time. No one's seen where the shot came from. So they can't do anything. Another shot comes down and hits the guy. think through the arm and through the torso It's fucking grim. He's screaming out for help and they just can't get to him until [00:55:00] animal mother It's like, fuck

Cris: no. There's one of them

Sidey: Oh, another, Another guy goes

first. Yeah. and then

he, he gets, he, He

drags him about

10 foot

and he gets taken

out. and

Cris: And then mother goes,

Sidey: and then, but then they must see them coming and they just gun them down. So they're both dead anyway. Now you've got animal mother just like exposed.

Fucking middle trying to see, They,

they eventually all get across

and they,

they're sort of taking positions

Reegs: flank, flank

Sidey: and then you can just see that a sniper can see right through a window to To Cowboy

And

another guy who's the, the guy with the radio and the shot comes in and just fucking takes cowboy out.

But this time

they know they can pinpoint where the shot would've come from. So they know the building.

Reegs: You're giving away a po their

Sidey: pivot around there. It's Joker who goes in sort of negotiates his way out. this like completely like bombed out building, gets up there, sees the sniper, and you're like, fuck.

It's like some young teenage girl. I mean, she's like 13, 14 something. And his [00:56:00] rifle jams, he thinks, oh fuck. And I think animal mother may, no,

Cris: his mate.

Pete: it's his other,

Cris: His mate,

Sidey: Oh, the other journalists, dude,

Cris: The, the other reporter

Sidey: guns are down.

And They all come into the building and she's, they say she's praying, but she's not.

She's saying So much pain. So much pain.

Yeah. Kill me, shoot me, me, shoot me, me. Kill me. Yeah.

And

then they're like, nah, fuck. I just leave her.

And

it's really up to joker whether he's gonna,

Pete: well, no, it's animal, animal kingdom. I was gonna call him then.

Reegs: Mother. Animal

Pete: mother basically says, look like you, you are new here.

I fucking outrank you. I'm in charge now. And Joker is like, I, I couldn't give a fuck. I'm not like, you know, but, but we need to, we can't leave her like this. And then eventually he kind of like relents and, and says, right, okay, well if, if you're gonna put her out a misery, you do it.

Sidey: Yeah.

Bang.

Yeah.

And then he, there's a line that they've been saying about You're in a world of shit. And he ends the narration with that He says, I may, I may be in a world of shit, but at least I'm still alive, I think is how [00:57:00] he he ends the movie.

Pete: I've just remembered a Hartman one. It's like, how tall are you? And he goes, five foot nine.

I didn't know they may pass the shit that high.

Sidey: stack you there, stack.

Reegs: there, huh?

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: So yeah, it's just fucking bleak

from,

Pete: well, it finishes with a nice Mickey

Sidey: Yeah.

Pete: Like Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. Back to the animal kingdom.

Pete: Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Nice tie in there. Yeah. Florida ticks.com sell tickets for that.

Sidey: Yeah.

Yeah, from, from the training through to being on the front line is just fucking grim. But like.

A

brilliant, brilliant film.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Cubic

like all over it.

Reegs: Visceral

and like you feel every part of it. And yeah,

Sidey: It ticks so many boxes for us, 'cause It's short as well. It's

like 90 minutes.

Pete: and this, this is the thing for me is that like, obviously there's so many Vietnam films and there's so many brilliant Vietnam films as well, but it's like what others do and you know, you've got Apocalypse Now and stuff like that.

It all the, the building and the development and the, the, you know, like the

Obviously the scripts and the scrape as well, but you know, [00:58:00] there's so much goes into it, whereas this is just like banging straight into it. There's like a slight break in the middle where it goes from like the hideousness of the, you know, the, the, the drilling at the beginning and then into, into the field.

But there's about five minutes where it's just like,

you

know,

Sidey: it's almost a bit of r and r Yeah.

Pete: that. And then you're back into like, you know, like the bleakness and fucking nonsense of, of the conflict and everything like that. And then it's done, it's over. And it, and it relies on the yes. Like the characters.

And obviously Hartman is, is, is enormous in it. But

Just like the, the portrayal of it all and how, you know, fucking bleak and raw and fucking, you know, but the pointlessness of it all as well.

Reegs: And also, how can you train your men not to be shot by 15-year-old snipers? who know there were, You know, you just shouldn't be sending them in there.

Like, that was the you know, After all that stuff, they were still woefully under prepared anyway. That's what they

Pete: It's, it's like a, and I mean, I know a lot of, a lot of the themes about Vietnam is, it's like a, so it is like an [00:59:00] anti, like Vietnam

film. It,

Reegs: just anti-war. anti-Vietnam. Anti, Yeah.

Okay.

Sidey: Chris, you, you saw Bugsy Malone for the first time?

and loved that unequivocally.

Cris: Oh, loved it.

Sidey: is, I think your First

time watching.

Cris: First time watching this.

Sidey: you enjoy this one

Cris: And I said to Pete yesterday that I,

that's

what

I said about Bugsy Malone as well. I'm, I'm very conflicted in terms of, this is a film that I would normally like, because the theme of war and explosions and all that is, is, you know, I've, I've watched Platoon and I all, all, all these other apocalypse and all these other films that I, you know, they're kind of similar in, in the way they are, but I can't take because I've never seen this before.

Yeah. And there's no nostalgia. There's no those four first 45 minutes, I can't take that serious.

Sidey: Yeah. Honestly, when we were,

first time we seen it. when

Cris: I watch it, because I watch it with, and I think you can understand what I'm saying from the fact that when you watch a movie in [01:00:00] 2025 that is made in 1984 or whatever this May movie was made, was it

80 eighties, right? It was, this was in the eighties.

Pete: Yeah, I think it was 85, 80. No, no. I can't remember

Sidey: Two six.

anyway, 87.

This was

Cris: 7 87. Right. So, so, so this is almost 40 years ago, right? There has to be some something that is almost comedic now. When that, at that time it was serious. With, regardless of how, how you feel or how you, for me at least, you know when,

Reegs: I know what you mean, how

things

age,

I know what you mean, but

I, I,

well, I didn't see it. That's the thing. I didn't see it. I haven't

Cris: And this is the first time I see it, Riggs. Yeah. This is the first time I see it, so, so I don't have the eyes of seeing it the first time in the impression that it did the first time, and then I see it now, you know

Reegs: so what? It doesn't have

the impact for you

Cris: Not really. It's, it is very similar to, to Predator the first one where,

and not, [01:01:00] not, not, not in the way

Pete: the content, no, no,

Reegs: no.

Cris: But in terms of when you watch it again, some of the lines now they seem funny.

Sidey: So much of this seems funny to me because we, when we watched it

years

and years ago when we were at school.

Quote, all these insults like relentlessly.

Right.

Cris: Right. Okay. Well I, I didn't have this, but I dunno,

Sidey: So, no, but that, that took some of the impact away and loads of times that I've watched this, I would just turn it off after the murder, suicide after the

drill.

Cris: Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: It is, to me, it's almost less impactful

the scenes on the front line. I I Find that bit more powerful, but also, no, I

No, for me personally,

Reegs: futility though of that horrible, you know, that horrible ending though. so

Cris: is another question that I have which again, that's where I'm, I know it's a game of two halves and, you know, whatever, and the sucky sake is the halftime, but

Pete: Can we implement that a

Sidey: football player?

Cris: Yeah,

I hope so. But [01:02:00] is you know, there's a scene at some point when they're in the same city town that they want to take over where there's a, a Vietnamese guy on the motorbike with a prostitute.

Sidey: The pimp.

Cris: Yeah.

Is that not the same girl that it turns out to be? The sniper?

Sidey: No.

She had short hair. That, that

Cris: it

is different one.

Okay. Because I, when I've seen the, at the end I was like, is that, I was just kind of thinking, I

think

Sidey: the first few times I saw her, I thought the same thing. Like it'd been quite, yeah.

Cris: But, but again, I was like, is that the same one? Anyway, it's a strong recommend, but I kind of find this whole movie not so serious now.

Pete: Yeah. I guess. And because of all the stuff that has come like since and you watch like war films and everything like that, I guess it is over time as well. I mean, I, I,

Reegs: it's been referenced Right. And then pared a lot.

like Family guy or something would do that. Even the, the guy, what's his name? R Lee

Sidey: Yeah.

he he reprised it in the Frighteners.

Reegs: Yeah, exactly. So, you [01:03:00] know, I guess like, maybe it has less, like if you come to this.

Cris: well. look,

Reegs: you've seen it through, it's

Cris: my defense, I've never seen it before, so this is my opinion and yeah, I enjoyed it and I really like the length, the length was perfect. Is, is, is enough of the first bit, is enough of, the second bit is enough guts and, and it's, it's also overtaking like, we need to go back.

No, mother goes, no, fuck it. I'm going, the Texas is still in charge, but actually

Sidey: then there'd be a lot of court martials. There's a lot of orders not being

ab obeyed

Cris: whatever, you know, but, but it's, it's interesting in that side. It's also kind of similar in a way to what we've seen with war zone or warfare where people get lost and orders are not being followed with, with someone being shot because it's so much panic and

Reegs: and they were on heroin a lot of the time. as well.

Pete: also you just think like the, the reality of, of this, especially like this conflict as well, but it must happen in all the time, it's just like, you know, you've got the chain of command, [01:04:00] but like, they're literally just being picked off like through throughout the sort of film.

And a lot of these films

Sidey: And for what

Pete: to the point where I don't, it doesn't, it never actually stipulates how soon after, other than maybe like joker's hair growing out. You don't know how long it is between, this is the, you know, like when they gr graduate for whatever a better phrase to when they're in the conflict.

So you dunno how much time has passed

Sidey: I think they get shipped out immediately he says, right. It says, oh, 300 hours.

Pete: think

Reegs: judging by how quickly people die in this movie, in the final act. I mean, barely anybody has

Pete: Exactly. So

Sidey: when he's reading out the

Pete: a, a fucking, you know, like a new recruit went through that process. Came out of it, got sent to the infantry

Sidey: Yeah. I think when he is

reading out the jobs.

He says, oh, 300 hours you're going to

infantry. And I think That's them going, I think

Pete: oh, right, okay. So then literally right enough time for their hair to grow out a few inches.

Sidey: actually They've got, they've got hair.

Yeah. So it, it must

Pete: it can't be like the next week, but it's gonna be like a month or something like

Sidey: They've been in, they've been in

Cris: think

Pete: you know, it cowboys in charge of an entire fucking platoon [01:05:00] and he's green as fuck.

Like, and that's, that's the, you know, so then mistakes are gonna get made and, and obviously the whole thing about Vietnam is like in their territory, like the gorilla warfare, like element of it.

Reegs: to fight gorillas as well. Yeah.

Pete: The gorals

Sidey: one man,

Reegs: the local people. but Yeah.

Pete: One man,

Sidey: 10,000 men one gorilla.

Yeah. Yeah. There's the mass grave scene.

See that where they're putting, covered them in lime And There's

a girl with a, like a handheld super eight camera that's Kubrick's daughter.

Pete: Oh. Oh. She did all the

Sidey: She did the she did the score For it as well. Yeah. And a

Reegs: score It is as

Sidey: There's one bit with a radio and there's just a one word answer on the radio that's Kubrick.

doing a little Hitchcock

thing. interesting.

Pete: Kubrick, who, let's remind everyone has the same birthday as Although he is dead now, so he has no more birthdays.

Sidey: He was still

born on that

day.

Pete: He was still born on that day. But he isn't gonna have any more birthdays.

Cris: Yeah. Well I'll, I'll have some in his honor.

Sidey: Yeah. This for me is a strong, strong

Reegs: recommendation.

Pete: it is. Yeah. Same.

Sidey: You

coming back next week, Pete?

Pete: Yeah. Yeah, maybe I've

Reegs: All right. yeah,

Cris: a

Pete: it's, it's the

Sidey: no foot, sell,

Pete: it's [01:06:00] the closed season for foot cell training, so, I I should be able to bother you all a lot more.

Sidey: I, oh. it

might be Dan,

Cris: Daniel. Dan's gone.

Sidey: We'll figure out anyway. Strong week. That was good length. Good length.

We're Always a fan of length and that was

Cris: yeah, that was decent. That, yeah. Both

Pete: optimal length.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah.

And also it's nice to, to have a change up from the top five, I thought.

Pete: Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. It was a bit

Sidey: even though It was a bit sort of scatter gun approach, but it was, it was a nice.

Pete: More like an open discussion as opposed to yeah.

Doing it in a round.

Sidey: Yeah. So we'll figure out the nos. But all that remains is to say side signing out.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: A lot of it that, eh,

Pete: Dan's gone.