Oct. 9, 2025

Hot Drinks & Green Room

Hot Drinks & Green Room

This week, the dads head into the mosh pit with Jeremy Saulnier’s brutal, claustrophobic thriller Green Room — where a struggling punk band finds themselves trapped in a neo-Nazi club after witnessing a murder. It’s one part siege movie, one part social horror, and all parts grim.

When the Ain’t Rights take a last-minute gig deep in Oregon’s backwoods, they expect low pay and bad beer — not blood, dogs, machetes and Patrick Stewart as a terrifying skinhead ringleader. What follows is a night of panic, violence and duct-tape surgery, as the band fights to survive against an organised fascist militia who’d rather clean up witnesses than pay for another gig.

We dig into:

  • Punk authenticity — the grime, the DIY spirit, and how Saulnier nails the small-venue chaos.
  • Patrick Stewart’s casting — calm, chilling, and galaxies away from Captain Picard.
  • Anton Yelchin’s tragic final performance — and what a loss he was.
  • Violence that hurts — no jump scares, just sudden, stomach-turning realism.
  • The Nazi problem — why these villains feel horrifyingly believable in 2025.
  • The A24 factor — another lean, mean indie proving the studio’s knack for smart brutality.

Elsewhere in the episode:
 ☕ The Top 5 Hot Drinks delivers peppermint tea, Dirty Harry’s coffee, and more filth than a builder’s thermos.
🎸 Reegs spirals into video-game documentaries (Tony Hawk: Pretending I’m a Superman, Speed Runners).
🎤 Dan gets nostalgic about The Last Dance, Sidey recounts a surreal Lady Gaga show, and everyone somehow ends up discussing Tracker bars.

It’s one of those episodes where the jokes come thick, the violence is thicker, and nobody leaves unscalded.

🎧 Listen now for fascists, feedback, froth and a quiz that can only be described as “Hot Coffee or Tea-bagger?”

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Until next time, we remain...

Bad Dads

Green Room

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review. The podcast that is to refine taste as a mug of boiled diarrhea is to afternoon tea Claridges. This week we are warming our hands around the top five hot drinks. A topic which promises more weak dribbles than Dan managed during his entire footballing career, and a worse aftertaste than the morning after rimming, your dad.

Our main feature Caesars trapped in Jeremy Sonia's Green Room, where a punk rock band witness a murderer, a neo-Nazi bar, and get trapped fighting skinheads with machetes. It's a film about fascists in America, which in 2025 requires about as much suspension of disbelief as acting shocked that panorama found racism in the Met Police.

Before we start brewing, the usual disclaimers apply. There will be spoilers. In fact, we're about to spill more than your Nan's tea trolley when our final stroke kicks in, and our language is hotter than a freshly brewed cup of fuck you. So if you're easily scolded by profanity, now would be an excellent time to steep yourself in denial elsewhere.

Time to introduce this week's [00:01:00] tepid offerings that nobody requested a refill of. Starting with Dan. He's so old. He was at the Boston Tea Party complaining about the lack of biscuits and his fuck reserves evaporated that night along with Britain's chances of keeping the colonies.

Dan: Another true story,

Reegs: Coming to a boil in second place, the man who very carefully demonstrated his French press technique for me earlier, and though I'm fairly sure that's not what it's supposed to look like, he did seem very pleased with how much froth he'd managed to produce.

It's sidey.

Sidey: Thank you.

Reegs: And then there's me res. Hello?

Sidey: Yeah. I wear a man down, to, don't we?

Reegs: Yeah. Man

Dan: Man down. Man down. Yeah.

Sidey: A terrible,

tragic. Yoga incident.

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: it is. It was down dog. Literally.

Sidey: was hot pod actually.

Yeah,

it he overheated

at hot pod. Yoga.

Dan: It's easily done, I guess. I mean, I've seen some of the yoga

Sidey: actually see him, didn't we? immediately after the aftermath. Yeah. And I was gonna comment. But I didn't,

Dan: I don't think I was looking any better at

Sidey: But The, the instructor was there and Dan [00:02:00] and I was gonna say well, Joe looked so fresh and you look like shit. And Then later on he said he had like

heat exhaustion

He was about

Reegs: nearly passed out.

Sidey: Yeah yeah, he was next To the fa next to like the heater I think.

And it, it did a number on him. So, we'll see him next week,

Dan: but you, you do see some kind of yoga pants come out of there sometimes, don't you? And that really?

Sidey: about my eyes down

Dan: Yeah. Okay. That's right. I'll just move on then. Have you seen anything wild and wonderful this week?

Sidey: Only repeats, I've been, I've been watching like, inspire me 'cause we are on a, a walking football extravagant at the moment. Yeah, I've been watching the last dance.

Dan: oh

oh

Sidey: yeah. You know, get, the right,

Dan: the last dance.

Sidey: personal. And we've been watching Harry Potter stuff.

'cause my daughter wanted to watch it, so.

that was

Dan: nice. Okay.

I started watching the natural last night.

Sidey: Oh. That keeps being thrust upon me. It is on Netflix. I should say, I, I was away. That's why we weren't here last week.

Yes, I did

go and see Lady Gaga [00:03:00]

Reegs: and what was that like?

Dan: The

Sidey: Car, if you like Lady Gaga?

Mm-hmm.

Like most of the

people there.

at my misses.

Then they've really, really enjoyed it.

Reegs: Did she play for a long time?

hours,

Sidey: I think. It's

a total nonsense. So the whole thing is set up as a gothic kind of alter

ego There's like her in her in a wedding dress.

Her as like a a red devil kind of thing.

Reegs: Is that not good? All the production design and stuff I could

Sidey: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But then, you know, there was one bit where

there, there's obviously someone with a cover of their face and there's her and the white and they're, you know,

they're arguing on dancing at each other and arguing and she's, what the fuck are you doing, blah, blah. And then she just sings a song about telephone and you're like, almost got, the songs have got no relation to

The stuff, but she's got a good voice and, you know, it was well done

Some absolute sight in The crowd.

Geez Louise.

Reegs: Oh, I can imagine.

Sidey: Yeah. There's one guy 'cause he's in the O2, so you can, you know, you can have drinks and dinner whatever before the show.

So we were sitting there having some grub and this guy came out like

full on like bondage gear and then this like

metal contraption [00:04:00] thing

that he'd built had on his head. And then there's other people in like equivalently fucking outrageous clothes

Then there's people there with their, like little

kids.

kids and you're like, I don't think this is for you really.

But Yeah. There was it was, there was some

Dan: Didn't you see the,

the,

Rugby World

Sidey: yeah, the rugby, the, The Roses? I think they go by. They were there. Yeah. Yeah, they were there.

Dan: And we have a, a Wan's friend who's married to one, don't

Sidey: Yeah.

Yeah. I think it's the captain.

Dan: Yeah. Who else would it be? The stratosphere.

Sidey: I did. Yeah. What about you guys?

Dan: Oh, so I started to watch the natural, it started to get late and it was just

Sidey: it's the baseball one.

Dan: the baseball one. So I'm just to the point just after he's Robert Redford's, trying to look really young, but he's not that young.

And 'cause they jumped 16 years later, but they don't really have the makeup or the, they've got clothes and he acts a bit young, but he's still clearly much older than a, a 17 or 18-year-old lad as he was at the time, [00:05:00] because he comes back at 35, 36 and after he's been shot,

he's been

shot. By a woman who just doesn't want him for whatever reason, to, to be the best baseball player.

She just wants to shoot and kill the best baseball I haven't got that far. If it's, it's, I can't remember. But he eventually, 16 years later, goes back into the, the biggies. Who's

Sidey: Who's he play for?

Dan: He's playing for the Knights, is Ian. Yeah. So, it's, it is quite good. I'll definitely watch the end and report back in, but that was all I really got to watch other than the homework this week.

Yeah. Although I did get really teased to watch Millennium. Have you ever

Reegs: oh Lance Pete Hendricks, in a way. His name is TV series.

Dan: yeah. TV series.

Girl with Dragon Tattoo. A six [00:06:00] part kind of, show. I have seen it before and I've read the books and I've listened to the audio books is really fucking and Elizabeth Salander is maybe one of the, the strongest women characters written in a long, long time. But it was just, Nellie was in the room and I then I lost because it's a little bit too old for young children. So there you go. Another one Spoiled by the kids.

Sidey: Yeah. Damn it. What about you Riggs?

Reegs: Well, I, after the video gamey one that we did, King of Kong for the midweek. I went off on a little side mission, I guess, and I watched there's a documentary called Pretending I'm a Superman, which is the Tony Hawke documentary about making of the video game. Tony Hawke pro Skater two. Which was the, FI, I can't tell you how many hours

Sidey: Well, I've got a lot of hours. And I

would always try

and beat every Rodney Mullin just to watch his ending.

Yeah. Video so good,

Reegs: right? So if you played that game, watch that documentary, it's fucking [00:07:00] amazing. And just even hearing the music and stuff we'll just take you back 25 years. And after watching that, I watched Speed Runners as well, which is also on Prime.

Sidey: And what games are they Speed running?

Reegs: Mario.

Sidey: Mario, 64.

lot. There's some crazy ones in that.

Reegs: The glitches are ridiculous. But all sorts of games. There's gots some elden ring And all sorts of stuff in there. It's just about the whole concept of speed running and stuff.

Sidey: But yeah. 'cause that

that. speed ones they marry 64, but then there'll be like all stars

or the minimum amount of stars you can do or no warp and all that

sort of stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah. Crazy.

Reegs: So

Sidey: people just spend hours and like

weeks and months

playing it over it just to find a glitch. Yeah.

imagine

how in a 3D world, like Sandbox game, just hunting down some. weird, crazy, it

Reegs: you know, you have to be like literally pixel perfect to, to like do it. So, Amazing.

Sidey: Cool.

Dan: Cool.

Reegs: What did we have as a top five? I thought we

Sidey: fortnight ago. God, that's

a long time ago.

Reegs: a long time ago. I know. [00:08:00] I'm pretty sure we had nominations. People do write in. The best place to get us is on Discord. And people do write in, so we should bother to Oh. Darren talked, we were talking about Roberts and he pointed out that Robert Fripp that we were talking about from King Crimson.

He's married to Toya.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: So let's see.

Sidey: They

had,

and I dunno if they're still doing it, but certainly during lockdown, a series of

YouTube videos they

put out were just insane. Yeah. Just completely bonkers.

Reegs: Well, let's put Toya in then. Toya

Dan: Toya from the eighties. Yeah.

Reegs: She can be in our final. Robert.

Dan: She was, she was amazing with her orange hair.

Toya is our final. Robert. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That sounds ideal.

Sidey: Yeah. Perfect.

We're gonna talk about hot

drinks. Yeah.

In this one. Should

Dan: Hot ones. Let's do it. We

Sidey: We do it.

Dan: lovely copper cup of tea.

Reegs: Mm.

Dan: You enjoy a lovely cup of tea, don't you?

Reegs: do. I like I do. I like all kinds of tea.

Sidey: Really? Yeah. What's your, okay. Depends

on the time of day

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. I like a peppermint tea. Do [00:09:00] you? Yeah.

Sidey: I like the smell

of it, and then it

just tastes like

pond water to me.

Reegs: No, I love it. I can drink peppermint tea. Yeah.

Dan: I

don't mind any of those teas, but my go-to is just asam.

Black tea, you know, the English breakfast as we would call it over here, but it's ASEs that is the, the king of teas for me.

Sidey: Gra with some honey in it, and we are getting

now it towards

the Christmas tea season.

Dan: Well, I

Reegs: I don't, like all that

Dan: No, no. Don't fuck with it too much. The messala tea's. Okay. When I'm in it, chai, I mean, India has the, the best tea. And the granules is where I'd like to go. You know, when you boil them and really kind of the gran the tea granules, you boil them and to the point

Sidey: to the point they faking

coughing

Dan: over and then you bring it down again, then you boil it again until it's almost frothing over and really kind of

Sidey: quite labor intensive.

Dan: It is, but it's worth Yeah.

I have made it here [00:10:00] before and I think everybody said that's the best cup of tea I've ever had.

Sidey: Okay. Don't believe it. But then

give us a, give us a hot drink.

Dan: Well, the, the first one I thought of when I heard this was the topic and I heard it obviously you put it in the chat earlier in the week.

But I didn't get round to reading it until tonight. Was licensed to drive, I think it was one of the Corys.

Reegs: they're both in it,

Dan: both of the

Sidey: Hey man

Dan: And as he's driving along and looking to pass his test, the instructor puts a cup of coffee on the dashboard and he says, if that spills, you've failed.

And he's going around all these mad bends and he gets in at, at one point and he just got one hand on the wheel and he goes it is two hands. And he goes, yeah, one for the babe. And I just thought, oh, this is the coolest guy ever. But he slams on the brake right at the end. And you think, oh no, he is failed it.

But he's actually finished the coffee at that point just [00:11:00] because he's got round thing. So he gives him the, he gives him his license to drive.

Reegs: Nice.

Dan: Good movie. That is it. I dunno. I remember it being, having a couple of

lulls.

Sidey: I saw it once on video at G'S house actually.

Oh, really?

Yeah, when we

Dan: Yeah. Remember?

Sidey: school. Yeah. A Long time ago.

Dan: Have you got anything there, Cy?

Reegs: Well I bet I had to. When, why don't I start with Peppermint Tea since I said that I enjoyed that one. In, the, I haven't seen this movie, but it's the recent romantic comedy. Any, but anyone but you. I think with Glen Powell. Yeah. And,

Sidey: oh, Sydney.

Reegs: Yeah, Sydney Sweeney. Peppermint tea is part of the first scene when the protagonists meet in that the White Lotus, which I really did enjoy was promoted for some reason with the Baffling hashtag. I just love peppermint tea and images of Jennifer Coolidge drinking it house. We're all. Fans to some degree or another of house.

It pops up a number of times. Peppermint tea in one scene. House orders a pot of peppermint tea while at a bar with a vegan. It's pointing out [00:12:00] here deliberately ironic how a choice, because house later reveals that he hates so there's that. And then in the office, the US office, I really enjoy it as a program in its own right.

But by season eight it was really fucking struggling because Steve Carre's out of it and they had

Sidey: was

it Ed? Ed town?

Reegs: No, it was James. not Ja, was it James Spader that came in Oh, right. As Robert California. And he's, you know, at that point a peppermint tea drinking sort of psychopath.

Sidey: Right.

Reegs: but yeah.

Dan: Okay.

Reegs: Peppermint tea.

It's good. It's good for just before bed.

Sidey: Yeah. I just, I just always like, the way it's, 'cause

my Mr drinks it. Because very

rarely drinks like a

normal

like in inverted cup, normal tea.

She would have peppermint. Yeah. And like the way it smells, I

just don't get on with the flavor of it just

anyhow.

What I do like, and then many forms

is coffee.

And Twin Peaks, when we first introduced to Agent Dale

Cooper, he's [00:13:00] on his way into Twin Peaks and he is staying at the

Reegs: this has been mean so much that I haven't even really seen it. And I know this scene,

Sidey: he has a cup of coffee.

Actually

I think this this is

a breakfast,

This first morning

in town.

And he says, and he he makes the waitress

wait. Yeah. And he says

he takes a drink and he says now, and he apologizes for his swearing. 'cause he says that

is, and I'm sorry.

A damn fine cup of

coffee. Yeah.

And it just goes on and

on throughout the show Him going to the diner. he loves, loves his coffee.

And when he has

the, the famous

dream sequence in the red the red room

in the lodge He has a coffee there as well, and he tips it up

and it's super, super thick. Like the

thickest

kind of tre or like, and he's like looking

at it quizzically. So it features quite strongly in Twin Peaks. So

there you go.

Reegs: coffee.

Dan: My sister loved this program TJ Hooker. Oh.

Sidey: yeah.

Dan: And it was an LCPD detective sergeant whose partner was killed in the line of duty while [00:14:00] they were trying to stop bank robbery and he becomes motivated to rid the streets of criminals.

Reegs: I

Dan: Yeah. Shatner, wasn't he? It was Shatner. Yeah, he was, he was in I think all nine.

He, yeah. Oh, really?

Sidey: Yeah. 96 years old.

Dan: went to the moon, didn't he? Or went to space

Sidey: out

Dan: Yeah, he went, he went to space. And he's he's a

Sidey: I think trivia question. He is the oldest person. To have gone into out space.

Reegs: Outspace. alright. That's

Dan: One small he's well he was a combat veteran of the Vietnam War as well.

And, who was heaven? Heather Locklear was, was in sort of, he was in all 90 episodes and she was in 84

Sidey: What the fuck was she doing for the other six?

Dan: I dunno, I dunno. She was just,

Sidey: Heart wasn't in it.

Dan: heart wasn't in it. But this was, you know, he was no nonsense. Always kind of clashing with

Reegs: No, it was all nonsense as I remember it.

Sidey: Is it got anything to do with hot drinks?

Dan: He always got the, the job done.

And it was just, yeah, it was

Sidey: top five hookers.

Dan: the TJ of of [00:15:00] that. So, and I'm sure he had some affi at some point, but it's more of the tea.

Sidey: Okay.

Reegs: I'm gonna consider an espresso a, a slightly separate, you know, it's not just coffee, it's a particular type of coffee. And then there is a particular machine.

As well that brews a fantastic espresso, which has been seen in many movies. The machine, you guys will know this as big coffee aficionados is the lapa only Euro Cola? it's a lever espresso machine. A fully traditional lever arching one. It's the one that has all the brass pistons. A 52 millimeter porter filter, stainless steel base.

can picture it now, famously used by bond.

Dan: pressure.

Sidey: Right

Reegs: in live and let Die And Roger Moore won. he's making a cup of coffee possibly the world's worst cup of coffee if you go back and watch this scene. When you look at his routine, it's clear he had no idea how to make a cup of coffee using a very complicated system.

So he just fucking, at one point he goes on to steam milk in the saucer. Nice. So that's a good look. It's the same [00:16:00] machine that Jude Law used in the Talented Mr. Ripley. It's one of those that signifies just 'cause you've got it. You've you've got class and a lot of money and all that sort of stuff like that, you know,

Dan: and a great cup of coffee.

Reegs: Al Pacino's got one in Godfather three and Robert De Niro's got one in meet the Parents. Right.

Sidey: So did

you see, this is

I'm unrelated to coffee, but you did

bring up James Bond. Did you see the news about James Bond this

week?

Reegs: I think

I did. What was it?

Dan: It was the,

Sidey: Amazon have digitally removed all the guns from the

posters?

Reegs: No, I haven't seen this. Are you really Being serious. And what I've replaced him with walkie talkies.

Like

Sidey: So, so

some of, some, it's just like, he's like about to wanker for

guy. He's just got like,

what, what was a gun? Now he's just got his hand. Like, in't it, that

Dan: do that with the old ones? And

Sidey: every single poster for, for

the digital

release on Amazon, they've digitally removed the guns from the poster, The

guy with a License

to kill.

Reegs: This Bode's Well for the,

Sidey: yeah. So what's he gonna kill 'em with A sandwich? I

Dan: I can't believe that they can do that with the old films. Like I

Sidey: all old [00:17:00] Dan. I can

Dan: can imagine the new ones they make, you know, they've bought the rights, they

Sidey: Oh. Now they'll be holding a Bunch of flowers or something.

But all the other ones, yeah.

well Look it up after this.

Absolutely bonkers.

Dan: They've got a new writer. That's who I was thinking you were gonna, the guy who did Peaky Blinders has been asked to.

Sidey: No, the setup looks good. The director

is

Reegs: Steven Knight.

Dan: Yeah.

They,

Sidey: it's what's his face? the director

name escapes me. they

Reegs: Oh, Vil Nerve, isn't it? Yeah,

Sidey: they think they haven't. It is who shout?

who's gonna be Bond, but

Dan: Vov and

Michael Knight. I mean yeah. It sounds like

Sidey: All the pieces,

Dan: driving team.

Sidey: the pieces are coming together. Yeah. Another coffee one. You mentioned both these actors week, just

a second ago, de Niro

and Pacino in heat, they sit down. in a diner to, to have coffee and talk about how one's a.

fucking creme and the other one's, a police cop. I would not hesitate. to drink my coffee.

Dan: away in, was it

Reegs: seconds, drinking my coffee.

Dan: if you can't walk away in 30

Sidey: Walk away.

Dan: walk away 20 seconds. There's,

You got [00:18:00] gourmet shit going on in Pulp Fiction, haven't you? Jimmy's coffee is, is not the kind of shit he wants to talk about right now though.

It's not What's on it? It is mine.

Reegs: Well, 'cause Marvin's just had his head blown. off by

Dan: had his head blown off and it, it takes Winston Wolf to come in. Harvey Kittel

Reegs: he also talks about

Dan: Yeah. He appreciates the gourmet shit as well, doesn't

Reegs: doesn't he? He likes his lots of cream, lots of sugar.

Sidey: I

don't like when with

Reegs: or sugar. And Then Tarantino uses the N word twice, so there you go.

Dan: Yeah. It, it is, it is a high pressure moment, I guess. We've got coffee and cigarettes with Jim Jamus as well, and Tom Waits looking really cool in the little vinegarette that they make in that in that series, in that and that,

Reegs: yeah.

Kamal Tea. That's fucking disgusting, isn't it? But some people like it, it's made from like literal flowers, isn't it? Herbal Infusion, it is the classic tea in the original Sleeping Beauty in the Peter Rabbit original tales that made it to the [00:19:00] screen. He's put to bed with by his mother with a cup of Chamal tea.

Bridesmaid Kristin Wig Hurs a cup of Chamal tea at the wool, and in Breaking Bad the character, Lydia, if you remember, she used to order a Kamal Tea with soy milk and a ton of Stevia. She was the I know that's like a, it's like

Dan: not sugar. Yeah.

Sidey: not chemical.

Reegs: Yeah. And it became a plot point, didn't it? Because she was the one who was Madrigal the sort of legit arm of the Lost Poi or Samos Drug Empire.

She was the executive there and Walt ends up poisoning her with a rep. He, he makes some rice in and puts it in a Stevia bag 'cause he knows she's gonna

Sidey: nice

Reegs: Kamal tea killed her, basically. Which it probably does kill people, I

Sidey: As they Say it just probably takes usually a bit longer.

Yeah. Paddington, likes,

likes

and I loves it. I like Paddington

enjoy tea when

it's made in a teapot.

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: That's

real.

Dan: Well [00:20:00] it's, it is allowing to

Sidey: probably. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. To steep, I think is the word. Gandalf

is enjoying a cup of tea when they first uncover

the one ring in.

Bilbo's

gaff. I think

Reegs: likes an herbal tea.

Sidey: Yeah. Anyways, I think he

likes the herb generally. Yeah.

Mrs.

Doyle and Father Ted, I

according to the accent. have I? yeah.

Go on. Guan. Guan.

she said, would you like

Dan: what she Jamaica,

Sidey: Guan? Yeah, Yeah, exactly. So that's a lot of tea stuff.

Dan: Well, let

Sidey: what about mold wine? That's a hot drink.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: It features in our

favorite film

or collectively All of us love actually. Yeah. I drank some real nice mold stuff in Denmark last year in Copenhagen toward Christmas time. super, fucking boozy

Reegs: in that in that context It's great. Yeah. But I don't generally like mold wine really, but

Sidey: I just get in that mode at that time

of year, when it's like

Dan: One of my great memories is being in one of the German Christmas markets where a friend of mine, Gordon, [00:21:00] and we'd done a we are doing an animal export and we're picking up an orangutan and we were bringing it back we, we went up on the carousel, the big, you know, like the eye kind of thing. It's really be called a carousel, the ones that go up

Sidey: wheel? I think

Dan: the wheel.

Right? The wheel, yeah. And they were.

Sidey: Did you take the Iang on? There

Dan: was, there

Reegs: yeah. Did

Dan: no, we left the orang, but we, we, they sold you like mugs of hot mold, wine

Reegs: to have as you went on the thing and

Dan: you could get rum in it as well.

Sidey: Yeah. That's what I was having. I

think it was called grog

or something. In in Conet. In Tivoli.

Reegs: I'd be into that

Dan: and we went round and we went up to the top and it just, it just kind of pinned you at the top there for a few seconds where you can just

Reegs: sip your hot drink Yeah.

Dan: enjoy the world and see all the sights and lights.

It was yeah, good memories. Mary Poppins, she liked a cup of tea.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: And one I was looking back and laughing at today was the world's best [00:22:00] cup of coffee as Will Ferrell went by when he was in Elf, and he got so excited.

Yeah.

And that's, it sort of goes into and otherwise quite usual cafe rundown with just a neon light outside that says the world's best cup of coffee and gets overly excited for the news.

And they're just kind of looking at it. Yeah. Like, what, what are you talking about? But yeah, it, it's world's best cup of coffee.

Reegs: Coffee.

Dan: Kfi.

Reegs: What about Lapsang Ong? Oh

you into that?

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: Really? No.

Reegs: No. No. Me neither. It's a black tea

Consisting of, ooh.

some

stuff Camelia sinis

Sidey: leaves.

Sometimes I

buy winter

tea.

Yeah. From I dunno what it is. because, You know,

that could be that. I

Reegs: It could be

Sidey: but It's just called winter tea and I

would drink that, but I always have, I always

sweeten it with honey, so it kind of just

Reegs: [00:23:00] just ends up tasting of honey. Yeah. Yeah. It's the drink of choice of Daniel Day Lewis's character in Paul Thomas Anderson's Phantom Thread.

The,

I've Yeah. Yeah, it's good. I don't think you liked it, did you, Dan?

Dan: No, it wasn't my thing and I, I thought it might be, but it wasn't. breaking news,

Reegs: it opens with

the scene of him ordering his breakfast, which includes Lapsang, Ong and some sausages in the gentleman, the Crime TV series that Chris has been watching.

Felix, the character apparently drinks Lapsang Ong. I, the only reason I wish Chris is here tonight is that he could have confirmed that on my behalf. Eric Andre in he played Randall Roth in Guillermo Del Toro's, cabinet of Curiosities. I dunno if you've ever

Dan: Pete's brother. Yes. Yeah.

Reegs: And that has a, it's like an anthology type thing and it has a section done by Panos Cosmo toss.

And he invites, it's a reclusive wealthy guy invites these people to his house and serves them. lapsang. Ong. And then this sort [00:24:00] of segues into what's his name? Patrick Stewart, who is at the center of a lot of these Sort of hot drink related things and our feature this week. So obviously he was well known for drinking.

Oh, gray Hot.

Whole gray Hot. Which implies that it was cold in the 24th century. 'cause you have to specify that it's hot. You don't go coffee

Sidey: I would, I would yak If I

drank a cold, Earl Gray.

Reegs: Yeah. So, but his original Tea of Choice was going to be Lapsang Ong. Right. But they opted for Earl Gray 'cause it was more familiar.

audiences.

Dan: Mm. Okay. Well, we're getting to the point where we're going to vote in our top fifth. Yeah. And mine is the great escape. You remember the time when the forger he's, he's making, it's not. It's around the same scene as he's says, oh, a pin on the floor. And he goes and picks it up, but they drink tea.

That's so kind like the tea leaves have been used so many [00:25:00] times. And it's still kind of a thing that they go and do, though. They'll go through the ritual of making tea and using these same tea bags over and or tea leaves over and over again, and it's just got weaker and weaker. Yeah. But it's basically hot water at this stage.

But I've been reading a book recently about the, the war SSGB, which is a Len Len Deaton. Yeah. Len Deaton film and how rations and things just getting thinner and thinner. So it made me think of, of that scene in particular and how during the, you know, the. World War ii and and those times that t rations in particular were, were really difficult to get by and used over and over again when they could get it.

So there you go. That's my on today.

Sidey: Nice.

Reegs: I'm gonna go for, it. did you watch Homeland?

Dan: Yes.

Reegs: So Damien Lewis, was in it? Yeah. Well, you can then validate that you, Yorkshire Gold,

Dan: right? Yeah. Is a

Reegs: [00:26:00] plot point in one of the series of, apparently some women manages to twig that he's a terrorist sympathizer by the fact that he's drinking Yorkshire Gold Tea is what I was ref informed by my research today.

So I was gonna go for that.

Dan: Okay. I don't remember that exact plot twist, but he, he did get accused of being a,

Reegs: give you more. It says somebody Maria, was it?

Dan: Well, you've got the blonde lady who's the, the Mac Carey. That's the name of the character, I think. Who's Claire Danes? Claire Danes.

I don't

Reegs: no, I don't think it was her, but anyway. Yeah. the

Dan: He, because he, he, he's getting taken as a prisoner of war and then he gets released. Yeah. And he comes back a hero

Reegs: eight years, or something? He spent there,

Dan: actually you know, converted to being a Muslim while he is out there. Yeah. And he prays and everything. And he doesn't want anybody to know that he's, he's praying.

So he does this in his garage and they've got spies on him all the time. So that may have [00:27:00] been, it, it was, it was a fantastic series. It's been a long time since seen it, it was a really, really good series that the way through.

Reegs: And more importantly, Yorkshire Gold is a good cup of tea.

Sidey: Mm-hmm.

Dan: a lovely cup of tea.

Sidey: Yeah. I'm gonna go for. Blackout

of third.

It's from 1987. And the episode is called Dual and Duality. And it is

so the blackout a third the season where Hugh Laurie plays the Prince Regent and blackout is his like man servant. And in this

particular episode, he's

been out and about shagging, I

think, and he is

fucked, if I remember correctly, like the Duke of Wellington's,

some,

some connection or other duke of Wellington's played by Steven Fry, and he's gonna come in and challenge him to a jewel to the death.

So they come, they concoct this plan, the Blackhead and the Prince region will swap clothes and rolls. And when the Duke turns up, you know, he'll be all baffled, blah, blah. Anyway,

he does turn up

and the,

he

he's been led to [00:28:00] believe that blackout is the intelligent one.

and the Prince re idiot.

And because they've swapped, right? He's all confused. like, I was led to believe that you're blah, blah, blah.

But he just shouts. He shouts constantly and he wants a drink. And,

The prince is

like trying to figure out how everything works.

You know, how you do, you know, be a servant. Duke's just fucking screaming at him. And eventually he brings in this drink and he's like, where have

you been for

India?

And he whacks him.

And then the prince who is actually blackout is like, oh, salon. And he, whacks him and then the Duke fucking kicks him up

the ass, India

and he falls over the table and just smashes it everywhere. And Pete and I love this, and anytime one of us arranges to meet and it's one second late, you just get a gif of the gig when say, salon.

Absolutely brilliant. Like everyone knows, you know, Steven Friars being like super intelligent, and a blah, blah, blah.

Fucking

brilliant comedic actor. Like, absolutely incredible.

Dan: and Worcester was, I mean, probably another one we could have squeezed tea into. Yeah. At some way, shape, or form. Absolutely [00:29:00] fantastic.

And it always makes me think those two actually Laurie and and Stephen Fry,

just

amazing and range, you know, I mean

Sidey: yeah.

Dan: Fantastic pair of them.

Sidey: So we need two more.

to complete the top

five.

Do your thing.

Dan: Let's have it. I've got a quiz. It could be the worst one we've had so far.

Is anybody still out there listening to this? Yeah, because wow, we are, wow. This could get bad. So it's hot drinks in movies, quiz, you're gonna have to put a lot of. Brain matter into getting the right answers here.

Sidey: What we've gotta do get

Dan: answers are going to be? Hot coffee. Hot tea. Yeah. Or tea bagger. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

Reegs: Hot coffee. Hot tea or tea bagger.

Dan: Or tea bagger. And I do want the answer of the character, so I'm gonna give you a clue. Right. And it [00:30:00] begins from the off. Okay. So the first one, there is no

Sidey: Okay.

okay? Go

Straight in.

Dan: Okay. We're straight in in the matrix. This ship operator keeps everyone alert on their

zaza

Sidey: Nebuchadnezzar,

Dan: and looks after Neo's body while he is jacked in.

Who is it?

Sidey: Tea Bagger

Dan: and the name of the character.

Sidey: do, I

do know it. Damn.

I can't

Reegs: Link or Cipher?

Dan: Oh, well see you've both got it, right? You've both, you've,

Reegs: I

Dan: well, I dunno. I don't, well, basically it's link, but he's looking after, while he is jacked in, he he's, he's kept him up. It is hot

Sidey: coffee And does he Tea back

Dan: is coffee.

No, it's not. Right. So now you've got it.

Sidey: No I haven't.

Dan: Oh, you've really Right. Clint Eastwood's iconic cup runs on attitude and caffeine. He just asks if you feel lucky.[00:31:00]

Reegs: a hot,

hot coffee.

Dirty Harry,

Dan: it's Harry Callahan. I'm gonna give you that. You're won it up. He's racing ahead. He's fucking, he gets this, he gets this.

And you are way behind

Sidey: get that one. I just

Dan: are ready. Well, okay. You know, this is the

Sidey: so is it tea bag?

If it is not

tea or coffee.

Dan: Well look in zoo land there, a clueless male model doesn't understand computers. He might be caught up in a very awkward situation.

Sidey: Well, it's Derek,

Zoolander.

Reegs: you're looking

at us like we understand

what the fuck you're

Sidey: Hot coffee.

Dan: Well, no, he's a tea bagger, isn't he?

Sidey: I dunno. Is he?

is.

Dan: Oh, I mean, that's just terrible. Okay. In po I'm gonna give you a half a

Sidey: point Okay. I'll take it. I need it

Dan: invol Fiction, Quentin and

Reegs: hot coffee,

Dan: people are screaming the right answers at home.

Coffee.

Reegs: It is. Jimmy. Is it?

Dan: It it, there you've got, it see's. I haven't even finished the answer in, he just said, Jimmy, could you get the second name,

[00:32:00] Half point bonus? Do you wanna take that? It's Jimmy Dimick.

Reegs: Charlie Dimmick

Dan: Dimick. Not Charlie, Jimmy. Okay. Right. This is, this is already going way through the quiz, going really quick, going really well.

This, the, this marmalade loving bear's entire personality is built on good manners and

Sidey: Paddington. Paddington. hot

No hot tea.

Dan: Hot tea is that you've got, you seem to have gone off the boil, if I should say a little bit there. But it is paddock and bear. It is hot

Reegs: No, he was tea.

bagged when he was in prison though, as well.

So,

in

Dan: well this is a decider because actually you are on two points. You are on one and a half. So you could, you could take this in Bora, a handshake gone wrong, bruise up a scandal, especially with this famous awkward Kazak reporter,

Reegs: Bora.

Teabagging. 'cause

this bit, I,

Dan: absolutely. Nailed it. [00:33:00] And that is it.

It's, it is a romping three. He's doubled your score. So

Sidey: is brought it home.

Dan: know that, that's,

Reegs: I went and saw that in the cinema. and everybody was laughing at that

Sidey: bit.

Dan: Well, there you go. That's a hot show. Good quiz.

Sidey: Well done.

Reegs: I can't even

Remember what a tracker bar is now?

Sidey: It's like a cereal nut bar.

Reegs: It had

Dan: Yeah. They're the chocolate.

Sidey: You can have it with chocolate. You have a peanut

Dan: I was, I was only talking about them

this

week actually. Tracker bars.

Sidey: They were a feature of the island walk, which I dunno if you know but I Did that you, that all the refuel stops their

tracker bars.

Reegs: Alright.

Dan: I was gonna order some online as in like a big box of and that Yeah.

Sidey: we get,

A rival product. Every month on our subscribe and save.

Dan: what is it?

Sidey: Some kind of cereal bar. There's I know the apple and Cinnamon one.

Dan: There's a like a Protein Valley one or something like that.

Sidey: nature. Valley. Nature Valley

They feel like Geral food. To

  1. They're, they're so crumbly.

Reegs: They,

are very

Sidey: Yeah. I Like a bit

[00:34:00] more

Dan: I had one today and it didn't actually sit that well with me. But I think it's because I've just sat and done nothing all day and then eaten a protein

Sidey: Well, that segues very nicely into this week's

Dan: why we set 'em up.

Sidey: which is Green room. Yeah. Not Green Mile or Green

Book? No, but Green

room. It's an

Reegs: be, if you thought you were gonna be going to watch Green Book and then put this on,

Sidey: This is better.

this

Reegs: this is better. This is, yes. But also a different

Sidey: Yeah.

Yeah.

Because it's

an interior design

blog. Yes.

About Home deco, Home.

decor.

Dan: yeah. And that's what I liked about it. I thought, you know anything with

Sidey: but I was surprised by the amount of Nazi

content as well.

Dan: yeah, that's it. And, and blood that was involved.

So it's not any of those.

Sidey: was broadly familiar with what it was going to be,

but I had never seen it.

Dan: I, I had no idea. And

Sidey: I knew, 'cause I'm a big Star Trek next Gen guy. I knew this was Patrick Stewart

doing something

a bit different.

Reegs: We've seen the [00:35:00] director, Jeremy Sonia, some of his work on this, bef on this pod before we've done Hold the dark, right?

Yeah. It was his, and we did Rebel Ridge was his as well

Dan: Rebel Wi

Ridge

Reegs: Mac on Blair who played the bartender guy who kind of gives himself up at the end, was the guy who directed that movie with the terrible title. That was really good that James Ward Burket recommended to us.

Sidey: Oh. yeah.

Which I wasn't there eh, or Something that. Yeah. I

Reegs: a terrible name that I can never remember, but the film itself was really good.

Sidey: were never, you were never really there or something. I can't remember. Yeah.

This is

like about a sort of really,

really struggling touring punk band.

Reegs: Yes.

Dan: Yeah. It's, it's a band that have zero fucks. They're going around, they're siphoning

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: The ain't Rights. They are,

Dan: yeah. They're, but that's very much who they're, so they're siphoning petrol from other cars and things, so, they can get from one gig to [00:36:00] another. They're not earning very much money and one of their contacts brings them in touch with some

Sidey: Well, they're going, They're

going to meet a guy

who

has

done college

radio stuff or, he, yeah. Or he

is doing a fan scene It wasn't entirely sure to he

Reegs: it was both 'cause he was doing a written thing and a college radio

Sidey: He's, he's got a Mohawks who know, he's a punk rocker.

Reegs: We see that they've got their cred as well.

'cause their van's got like Fugazi and No, no. Yes. Great White Vultures. He's wearing a minor threat t-shirt the whole way through and

Sidey: yeah, Well,

Dan: see that he's they give zero fucks because they wake up in a corn field where

Sidey: That's probably first meet, don't they? Yeah.

Dan: falling asleep.

Sidey: they're not dead

Dan: running. They're lucky. They're not dead already.

They've

Reegs: They've careered off the road fallen asleep, like you say, the driver probably drunk. the first word of the film is shit, as is the last word of the film. So it bookends it

Sidey: I recognized

a couple of

people, Anton Yelchin. Yeah. We've Seen

him in Star Trek. He sadly died after this film. Didn't [00:37:00] He ran

Reegs: Yeah. And This film emphasized to me what a terrible loss. That was, 'cause he's terrific in it. I thought

Sidey: he,

Dan: I did like him in this as

Sidey: ran himself over this car. Like accidentally. Yeah,

Reegs: he did. He was

Sidey: hand break wasn't on

Dan: that is, that is so sad. Yeah. I

Sidey: And Ali sot was maybe in Arrested Development.

So a very different role in this. I wasn't familiar Oh, the

Imogen puts

I'd seen before Joe Cole.

Reegs: Joe Cole

Sidey: real different. Joe Cole from his footballing days.

Reegs: Well, we saw him in the movie that Chris chose about the boxing.

Sidey: Yeah. yeah, yeah. Which

Reegs: terrific. Oh, it Just fucking escaped to me as well.

But it was absolutely brilliant.

Sidey: Rock something Stone?

fist of

Reegs: No, the one where he was undercover. It's a true life biopic of a guy who's drugs and undercover in. a Thai

Sidey: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I do remember him. yeah,

Reegs: starting a boxing Yeah.

It was a fantastic

Sidey: But they're,

the, they're

a four piece band.

And this guy who they, who's interviewing for

his fan Z and for his

radio show, he says, actually I've been let go. so I can't pay

[00:38:00] you,

but I can

set you up with with a gig.

Reegs: He gives them $6 at the end of this gig that they, he sets 'em up with this ridiculous gig in a diner and they're playing their punk rock stuff to like an arm, you know, barely anybody there, and they don't want anything.

And They make six bucks each at the end of it. And they're angry and he's like, well, listen, there is this other place I can hook you up. My cousin's there. It's quite hardcore. Play your early stuff. But he says it's skinheads. So they're aware where they're going. And they're under, but they are, we've seen that they are the kind of cash strapped, you know,

Sidey: They, they're not in position to be turning down gigs. Exactly. Yeah.

Reegs: And also they've made a point during their interview with tadpole about being off the grid. They don't have a social media presence. They're proper fucking punk. And yeah, they just live in the

Sidey: for real. Yeah. So they're gonna go,

And play at this place. And they have an

area where you go pre gig. it's called.

a green

Reegs: Yeah. When they turn up, they meet the cousin Daniel there, and he says something really strange to him straight away because the, although this is quite sh short the movie and there's the plot, it skips through [00:39:00] at a rapid pace. It doesn't reveal at all in a sort of very linear fashion. So he says, oh, you know, the band, when they greet him, Daniel, the cousin of Tad, he says something like, oh, you know, great, you were going to hook up with your cousin and Emily.

And he says, oh, shut the fuck up about that. Like, shuts him down straight away and is really aggressive. Yeah. And you don't know why,

Dan: like to the throat, doesn't he? Yeah. Sort of starts strangling him and yeah. That only becomes apparent a lot later why he was so aggressive with that kind of talk. But they get led into this.

Room. This barn, this pub, this kind of concert area and taken to the green room, which is, it's got a fridge, it's got some nice comfortable

Sidey: There's loads of like fa stuff on the

Dan: It, it's kind of what you knows

Sidey: it's a confederate flag. It's,

sounded Yeah.

Reegs: and they've seen a lot of swastikas and stuff and tattoos. that are not

Dan: They, they did realize it was gonna be a harder crew and to play some of their earliest stuff.

And,

Reegs: well, pat, he [00:40:00] says, he says, I have a really bad idea and I knew what this was gonna be. Because they go out and they open their set with the dead Kennedys Nazi punks, fuck off. Yeah. Which just seemed like a really punk thing to do. And they sort of win the crowd over almost, don't they? 'cause at first they're sort of, they don't like it because they're being literally told the audience that are there to fuck off.

But they sort of admire almost the punkyness of it.

Dan: And, and then I think it's their second track or their third track that really starts getting the, the the crowd in the groove, as it were. And it doesn't play that music. It plays kind of a, another music over the

Sidey: It kind of goes slowmo, don't you see? The crowd are actually into it.

Dan: they're all, they're all, they're all

Reegs: I, I, I've not been into the punk scene. But it felt authentic to me. The people that write the giness of everything.

Sidey: We do get a shot of some people exchanging stuff in the crowd.

You're Like, hello, what's going on here?

Dan: But it's a punk crowd. I mean, you, you think there might be some, some bullshit [00:41:00] passed out and some fights and things like that.

But it seems to be they're all getting on kind of good. And it's after the gig as they're leaving,

Reegs: already been

Dan: they've been paid, and she's forgotten her phone. So she goes back, he goes, no, no, I got you. I've got you. I'll get the phone. And it's our

Reegs: Pat Anton

Dan: Yeah,

Anton Yelchin, who I, as I say, I've, I didn't know that he died.

That's such a, a tragic he got crushed by his car, didn't he?

Sidey: didn't he? Yeah.

He left the handbrake off or something

Dan: Which, and he was in Star Trek, wasn't he? Yeah, he, he, he was a yack or No, the

No, Pabo checkoff. Not yet.

Sidey: Anyway, He walks in to grab the phone and he looks round

as he walks into

the green

Dan: and some girl's got a knife for her head.

Sidey: Yeah. This

is a. suboptimal situation

Dan: and

Reegs: and it took me a while to fig to piece it all together. But the, who is in that room is the other band. Cow catcher that was at the top of the

Sidey: Yeah.

Yeah.

Reegs: including a horrible looking guy called Worm a guy and two other people who look at [00:42:00] very distraught a guy with long hair and Imogen put Amber

Dan: we, yeah, we find out it's Emily. A little bit later on who is the girl that should have been meeting up with Daniel, the punk head that gave him the gig in the first place? We dunno any of that at this point. Only that there's a girl with a knife through her head. And there's no blood on the floor.

She's just, it's almost like a comedy knife

Sidey: first of all, they, they,

Reegs: he tries

to call 9 1 1.

Sidey: It, it

kicks off if he phones, she shouts.

Phone the police. Yeah. And

he does. And they, they're like, Hmm, we can't have that.

So they whip the phone off him and they're all.

bundled into

this room.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Hoot. Nicks a phone off him.

It's, it's the, the guy who he's very calm and

Reegs: Gabe Ack on ble, the guy who directed

Dan: And he's he's like, no, no, we, we'll do this. And they, they play really funny in the, actually they

Sidey: but he, they just get annoyed. that You should have

fucking locked the door,

you know? They get And and one of them, is

it big Justin? Yeah.

Yeah. He, he, it is just a

bolt, you know?

So, and [00:43:00] he is like,

there you go. How fucking difficult was that? You know Now, now we've got This situation

to deal with.

Reegs: Yeah. Everybody seems a bit put out by this thing. Rather than dealing with the horrible

Dan: So they all get

Sidey: then when they're in the room, She said, is she actually dead? 'cause there's no blood. And that guy bro, just goes over and just yanks the knife out of her skull and all the blood just comes

Reegs: He drags the whole body across the floor by the bladed handle.

And then like pulls it out and he goes, oh, there's the blood.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. She's definitely, she's definitely dead. And they're all locked in the green room and the police are coming. They can't. We track that call anymore, the it is been

Sidey: they phone straight back, don't

Dan: they phone straight back and say, oh sorry, I got cut off. Yeah.

Look, there's been a stabbing.

Reegs: So they have to call in the boss man.

Dan: So they have to call in the boss man. They get two true believers, two disciples. And one of them has to stab another one and they go, look, there's been a stabbing. This is what it is. And they make out that these two guys who are [00:44:00] voluntarily being stabbed and stabbing the other one are gonna be victim and perpetrator.

Yeah. For the police to take the hits. So they go, look, we got 'em outside. It's these two guys that answers the phone call. Not. And I thought that was quite clever

actually.

Reegs: Well, because this is, this this is Darcy's plan. So Darcy is Patrick Stewart, he's the, the

Sidey: different vibe for Patrick Stewart.

Reegs: Yeah. He turns out we're in a flat cap shot from behind and then he takes it off and you just see his like bald head, but it takes on a different kind of menace in this, in this film.

He's like, really? Quite softly spoken. Yeah. Pretty well mannered.

Sidey: got a real

maelstrom tonight.

Yeah.

Said

Dan: Yeah. Full, fully in control. And he, he ends up getting rid of the police. And then there is a gun inside the green room that

the band have managed to, to get they, and he, he

Reegs: they realized that they've got trouble.

So they, rushed Justin who's guarding them in the in the green room. And they [00:45:00] wrestle the gun from him. It turns out the drummer, that they were jokingly calling Juujitsu actually does no mixed martial arts. So is able to take this massive guy down,

Sidey: but

he's got

him in an arm lock and they're like, what we gonna do when you let go of him,

We going, well, he is either gonna tap out and I don't

think. Yeah.

This

is not a, a sporting

Reegs: or, I'm

gonna do it again though. Yeah. So,

Dan: yeah, he is

Reegs: they do overpower him. So they've got a gun with five bullets cartridges as he reminds him.

Sidey: The bullet is the thing that's gonna go flying through your skull?

Reegs: Well, yeah. And what, what we've already heard outside but hasn't been made explicitly clear really in the plot, but we have heard Darcy talk about this is that they don't give a shit.

They just want to get these guys the plan is to kill them, stab them to death, essentially and take 'em out to somewhere and have the beware like near where the, beware with dog sign is and essentially have had them mauled by wild animals while they were siphoning petrol for their vans. So this plan is, that's what the plan that Darcy wants to implement, but he knows he's got a [00:46:00] man inside and they've got a gun.

Dan: Yeah. So it can all start getting messy if bullets are start flying around. And and the crime scene is in the green room, which

Sidey: means there is no, however,

no other way out

of the green. Room. There's no, no

vents or anything like that. There's the one door, they're behind, they're in the chapter in the room and the other people,

Dan: and there's also a, a full band and crowd and everything.

Playing

Reegs: out outside.

Dan: He managed to get rid of them saying, we, he just cuts the electric. He said, look, we've had a power

Sidey: Generators on, but you'll have to fuck

Dan: gone. Everybody's gotta go. But what the hell? Free drinks come back on Sunday, two till four. And at this point he's called in the Red laces, which is a gra a gang of people that are much more hardcore and understanding to

Reegs: they're the soldiers of the organization, the killers, you,

Dan: doing whatever

Sidey: to qualify for your red laces

Dan: do. Yeah. And [00:47:00] so you get these 20 like neo-Nazi killers come along. And they all stood outside and said, right, you've gotta clear this stuff out. And I couldn't see really a way out for him at this stage because they end up giving the gun. He says, okay, I'll hand you

Sidey: Well, they, There's a negotiation at first. isn't it? It's like, Listen, we just, we need to get you out that, that gun's unregistered, blah, blah blah. Open the door, pass the gun through. And they're like, well, you need to give us something in return. We'll take a, we'll take a cell phone. Like, no, you're not

having a phone. Yeah. And they go through, this

Reegs: we'll give you the gun.

because they, they're trying to say, oh, the reason you, you are being locked in here is nothing to do with being kept against your will. It's just because of the firearm. Once that's sorted out, you can go, Yeah. sort of thing. So they're like, well, we'll keep the bullets. You have the gun.

Sidey: They're like, okay.

And you're like, oh.

And Amber is, is looking through

this grill at the bottom of the door. Yeah.

And they,

They

open the door just to, you know, just a jar, to put his arm through to hand the gun over and they grab it and she notices that at the same [00:48:00] time as he puts his hand there's someone else there

with a big fucking machete.

And she

Reegs: red laces is what she, what sets her off,

Sidey: and they grab his arm.

and You don't see it, you just hear him screaming and they're just trying to hack his arm off.

Yeah.

And they, they brings

Dan: his arm back. It's just

Sidey: it's his hand's almost completely severed. It's, It's fucking grim. And there's all sorts of

Reegs: bass much again, I

Sidey: no, there's all sorts of wounds up his arm.

They managed to, to like, through like broom handles and smashing stuff through the gap in the door.

They managed to get him back in, but they're

still

Reegs: well and at the same time, because they put that big Justin Guy in an arm lock, Reese the drummer breaks his arm horribly so that he can come and assist in the fight.

Sidey: And then, then

he puts him in a

sleeper hold

and he is like, Lemme know when

he is out

And they're like, okay, he is out.

He's just not, no,

Dan: no,

Sidey: because he gets

up and he he is still with one arm he slams

Reegs: yeah, because he's a big guy.

Sidey: This is a big guy. It's huge.

Yeah. Well,

Dan: they they put a stronger sleeper hold

Sidey: So they just do it again.

Yeah.

Dan: And

He's not waking up this time.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, because Amber slices in with a box cutter down the, the [00:49:00] sternum.

Sidey: now they're like, oh my God, what the fuck?

We've

sort of killed.

Dan: and then we start seeing like the, the Nazis kind of regroup on the outside. They're getting dogs involved. We are starting to see them panicking on the

Sidey: We start to see a bit more of what,

what they're about

is, because there is actually a trap dory kind of thing. They in the room.

They they were

able to break through that.

And they

realize it's like kind of like a drug

lab.

Reegs: a heroine

Sidey: Yeah. And we've also got some illegal dog

fighting going on because they're breeding pit bulls for,

Reegs: real, real nice guys.

Sidey: Yeah. And we're gonna get to see them in action

very soon.

Reegs: And Also the heroine has been tainted as well because that he sent the band off cow catcher with a bunch of his heroine. Yeah. Just to say, I'll go bed down for the night and enjoy yourself on that, and we'll see how that plays out as well. So,

they,

they don't find anything. There's no exit from that bunker place that they find, but they do find some duct tape, so they duct tape up his arm. It's,

Dan: it's the best thing you can do actually [00:50:00] with Duct, you know, that is a lifesaving thing. If ever you've got a, a major artery or anything being cut, then duct tape is a fantastic fucking tool to keep it all

Sidey: that in mind.

Reegs: Well, that's good

Dan: Yeah. It's good. It's good to know. First aid course

Reegs: aid, they realize they're fucked and their only way out is to basically rush the door now.

So they will arm themselves with any weapons, they can find a fire extinguisher,

Sidey: fluorescent tube. Yeah.

Reegs: Anything they can find. And the plan is to just rush out and, and go. So they do that. It's not There. There's no one there. And then they go out into the club and this is when the dogs are let loose, isn't it?

Two characters just gone in like,

Dan: yeah, two characters. You don't think are gonna go singer, go quick. And,

Reegs: the singer goes, maybe goes

Sidey: no, no, she doesn't go. yet.

Reegs: it's Joe Cole. He goes, he makes a run for it almost gets outside. He sort of goes through a window and is then stabbed repeatedly as he lands on the

Dan: That's right.

Reegs: is just carted off

Sidey: the other one.

The

singer. The singer

Reegs: has his throat

Sidey: written. He's

[00:51:00] just molded death by this dog.

And. It's not dead actually.

'cause they just let him suffer. They

Reegs: let Yeah.

he says later, I let him bleed out. It's better if he time of death. is

Dan: it looks better. Yeah.

And then they have another go at one of the girls, but he manages to put this, the microphone next to the speaker, making a, a really kind

Sidey: of the reverb,

Dan: high pitch reverb noise. And the dog,

Sidey: dog doesn't like it.

Dan: dog doesn't like it and it, it pisses off. It's quite clever actually,

Sidey: So now they, they have to retreat back to the green, the green room.

It is Pat, Amber, and,

Sam. Yeah.

Reegs: Now at this point, Daniel kind of comes back into the picture, doesn't he? Yeah. Cousin Daniel, Tad Paul's cousin, he turns back up at the site and is sent in to finish. The gang off with this other skinhead by.

Patrick Stewart.

And as they go in it becomes pretty clear [00:52:00] straight away as they open the door that his allegiances are not, where he's like distraught at Emily's death. And

Dan: which one of you did it? Which one of you technically goes, what are you fucking talking about? None of us did it. It was Worm. Yeah. And he was like, are you talking about?

And it realizes that no, they, they learned that she was gonna leave this place with you and this big psycho who

Reegs: not only that, they'd taken evidence from a crime that was committed a year ago. a Baseball bat that still had blood on it. They were gonna go and give up the operation, give up their Nazi lifestyle, I guess.

Dan: Yeah. And he wasn't gonna let 'em get away with it. So this big Nazi guy who creeped out the band right at the beginning with the line, like, what was that second last song? That's the one I did it to. Yeah. Was, you know, staring above him. And he, he's then changed allegiance and he's gonna help him.

He does let the other Nazi go. He does. Again, showing that he's not a [00:53:00] man that really has violence as much as the others at heart. But he doesn't get fired. He is had two minutes later and he gets shot,

Reegs: Yeah. You get like, almost a bit of like hope, like, oh, somebody's gonna come and help him, and then he's like, oh, I know where the guns are.

And as he walks down the steps, he just gets blown away.

Sidey: and maybe jump that bit 'cause he's like, they keep the guns

and as he is speaking, he's just shot in the face by

the bartender. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. So,

Sidey: but they're back, back to the a green

room again. Yes.

It's been one less person. Now it's just amber.

and Pat. Yeah. And he gives his his

Dan: Yeah. Well, Pat.

had be, begin, pat had been started talking about paintball and a story of how he played paintball with marines and they'd all started to use hand signals and codes and, and different tank tactics to, to get out there and how he had just been shit.

Sidey: He

was carrying behind a tree

and

then it just got picked, picked off.

And he is like, these are real.

Dan: then decide to go full psycho. They shaved their hair, they paint themselves in camo stuff and they [00:54:00] learn a few

Sidey: well, the, the point of his pep talk was that one of their friends just thought, fuck it, we're gonna have to go for it.

Dan: We're gonna run down.

Sidey: killed all these Army vets.

this is what is what they do. Made me laugh when they faces

Reegs: up as a Nazi, doesn't he?

To, I guess to confuse him. 'cause when he comes in the room, the, the Nazi comes in and he's got the guy's bomber jacket on or whatever, and he says something about odin's something or he says some weird thing to him and then she. merges out of the cushions. That was fucking badass. Yeah. Like in the background, she comes outta the cushions.

Sidey: under the Yeah, the

cushions of the,

Dan: it reminds me a little bit of smoking barrels, you know, the guy Richie film where you've got the girl who's just kind of camouflaged in the set there and you can't see if she's there. The whole time's

Sidey: That's right. Yeah.

Dan: just got the, the same kind of same kind of pattern.

Sidey: Yeah. There's the fat guy, there's the fat guy and the other idiot.

Dan: They're, hopefully they've got three or four bullets to kill everyone. I mean, they could've, Patrick Stewart said, look, it doesn't matter, you know, the crime scene's been [00:55:00] contaminated, now you just need to get rid of them.

Reegs: But gu we've already seen that guns are very realistic in this movie.

 if you fire one, you mostly kill someone. Yeah. Like, You know?

Dan: or miss.

Reegs: Or miss. And guns only have like five or six bullets in them, and it's hard to really, you know. Yeah. So they are a real threat. So when he says. Go in there with the guns, you're thinking blind me. is anyone gonna make it out of this

Sidey: He does say, he says, well, we've got the,

What does he say about the, the, the dog?

Something like, we've got the, the teeth, or, I can't remember how he describes it. but He's got that, we've got the, the blades. '

cause they

were, the last resort is

used. The guns. Yeah.

And he says, if you, if you fire the

gun, you miss, you'll be the ones digging the bullets outta the fucking wall, you know?

Yeah. But there's, he basically sends his two fucking Shittest

soldiers that looked to me. Yeah.

And they, they get off

the first the, the pat hides in the drug lab bit.

He's got the machete, and he is hiding around the corner. And she's like, you say, she's under the

the cushions of the sofa, and when they're looking,

one drops

down

into the drug

lab and

the fat [00:56:00] guy's waiting, looking over.

And she sneaks up behind

him, just slits his throat So he's a goner.

And so

maybe he's the other one left is the one with the shotgun and we know he is only got

three shots.

I think he fires one away and then she looks like she's climbing

down the hole. Yeah. After

this. this is great 'cause it totally got me.

Yeah.

And he shoots her right in the leg and it, the body falls down.

And then he,

Reegs: it was actually the

Sidey: it was all, It was the dead girl from the start. Yeah. He, And she's tricked

him.

Reegs: So he is only got one shot left.

Dan: And they've got a couple of secret words and things that they say now about the fire extinguisher comes out and, and sort of makes the room really hard to see in there.

And all gassy and everything. And their third shot. Goes off starting a big fight then, and she jumps down with a

Sidey: I did think at this point. he is not gonna be able to fight. with that arm.

Dan: he, he's trying to put, he's got bullets, but, and he's got the [00:57:00] gun now because the other guy's run over to get something else.

But then he, he runs back as he realizes he's gonna get shot if he doesn't wrestle our our wounded hero with the, with the duct tape and she jumps down and takes quite a lot longer there. She don't

Sidey: she just walks. over. I was thinking,

we fucking get her move on.

Dan: but she puts bullets in another gun. She's

Sidey: she'd taken the clip out.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. She was holding the clip. She puts that back in, just executes him

Dan: and she.

Reegs: So he is a goner. And

Dan: and he says, some kind of line goes Yeah, totally. He's gone like, you know, really kind of understated. And they managed to climb their way out and they see Gabe. Yeah.

Sidey: Gabe

Reegs: sort of the manager or whatever.

but He's seen enough

Sidey: He's like, I, I just wanna go to prison now.

Reegs: Yeah. He's just like, I, yeah, I want out.

Sidey: the only place I, he's, well, I don't even know if he's safe there, but

Reegs: but they don't believe him entirely. And they walk out there with him at gunpoint up to the thing. And then they're basically [00:58:00] like, right. He says, they say, where's the next, like, the nearest people go there straight away and give yourself up basically.

Which is what he actually does

Dan: proceed. Yeah. He, he's his ass is gone at this point. But they want to go and see if there's potentially any of their friends still alive because they, they dunno that they're all dead. He said, oh look, I saw two of them, but one of them. Wasn't dead. Yeah. When they get there, it is kind of obvious they're cleaning up and you, we've heard a couple of gunshots in the woods.

And then they find the guy who's got the gun the dogs. And they also see Patrick Stewart.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: get, they get two guys hostage kind of at gunpoint first, don't they? And is it Clark, the guy with the dogs?

I name

He makes a move and

he's shot.

Yeah, he's

killed. And the other guy

I can't remember how they end up killing,

Dan: well she, she just

Sidey: no, they have the two of,

them have Patrick Stewart and him,

Dan: she shoots and he goes, what?

[00:59:00] We're doing that now. And she's like, yeah, I don't give and she's shocked.

Reegs: The interesting thing is Patrick Stewart starts to walk away.

Sidey: says, fuck

Reegs: He says, he's just like, nah, I'm not doing this. He just walks, turns there it is back on them, doesn't he, but actually starts to reach for his weapon. Yeah. And then he's just blown away.

There's like a shot in his forehead that just pisses a load

Dan: Well, at first he's shot in the back and then the leg. But he still manages to turn swivel and get a shot underway just as the final shot enters his brain. And it's kind, his shot just misses, doesn't it? They're just in shock then and sit down.

Sidey: by all the bodies And just wait. A

Dan: that's been injected, and I dunno, with adrenaline or whatever is, is is now coming back along the road and they both level their gun at it. They're both. Completely exhausted, but the dog isn't interested at all and it just kind of rests its head against its dead owner.

Reegs: I think that [01:00:00] definitely there was something thematically going on about loyalty and all that sort of stuff at that

Dan: Yeah.

Yeah. And

Sidey: I was convinced that Sam was not actually

dead.

Reegs: she was dead,

Was she? Yeah. Because

Sidey: Because she

seemed like she was like sort of growing

and moving at the, at

the very end there when she was lying on the

floor. Mm-hmm. But

I didn't think she

would survive. anyway,

Reegs: And we finished with there'd been a sort of a half joke really that had started at the beginning when Tad, the fanzine guy had asked them their desert island.

Sidey: They keep starting to reveal it

Reegs: start to reveal, you know, they all give their punk answers of the misfits and all this sort of stuff. And then it turns out that the drummer likes the Prince likes Prince

Sidey: Simon

Reegs: someone like Simon.

Sidey: Yeah. Sam does. Yeah.

Reegs: uncle Abby liked Madonna and Slayer and, then she, he says, oh, I, I finally come up with it or whatever. And she's like, tell someone he gives a shit and it ends and then it cuts to credence Clearwater. So the implication being that was gonna be the band he was gonna choose. So yeah.

Dan: [01:01:00] Nice. This wasn't the, the horror Scary Fest jump scares certainly that I, I always fear they are when Res chooses them.

And why I have to watch 'em in the, in the daytime and I get really uncomfortable.

Sidey: No, it's, well, a

Dan: remember these films a lot more because they take me into, well outside my, my comfort zone and watching films, and I enjoyed this. I, I, I really thought it was well acted. I liked the fact that you know, the most famous actor in it was Patrick Stewart, although everybody else gave really good performances.

And. The, there was a few kind of unbelievable bits in it where you just thought, well, what the fuck are they doing? But the panic and the the stakes being so high and them being in such a horrible environment. Yeah. Certainly made me feel that you know, it was believable enough. Enjoyed it.

Yeah. It was decent.

Sidey: [01:02:00] Yeah. There are

some, bits. obviously it's violent and whatever, but there's some funny when

she's like standing by the door with the fire extinguisher. we can do

no, I, I enjoyed it too. You know, I don't like to see my Picard like

this.

Reegs: It's not your,

Sidey: It's not yours. It's not, it's not as usual vibe. but he was really good.

You know, it was nice to see him doing something

totally like the polar opposite of,

of Jean-Luc. He

was very good

terrifying fucking. horrible Bastard people.

right? Yeah. You know, Real scumbags. Absolutely. SCM of the earth. Glad died.

that was

Reegs: did die.

Sidey: Everyone

Dan: die. Yeah. There was a few of 'em that lived that you thought could have died as well.

And what happened to Worm?

Reegs: at the last shot of the cow catcher is one of them is like basically overdosed on heroin. But Worm is still there watching tv. I mean, there is a syringe there. So he's had some of the tainted heroine that was

Sidey: to Yeah, you see one's still got the needle

Reegs: Yeah.

Because that was Darcy gave them tainted heroin. And there's another cool scene at the end as well, or not cool, but just of tad vacuuming his apartment as he said he would because he expects his cousin to [01:03:00] arrive.

with Emily

And she won't, I did like this movie's like intentionally sparse, like focus on plot and the fact that it sort of, there was character development, but it was teased rather than spelled out.

And I liked some of the cinematic flourishes that you talked about as well, like the slow motion at some points to move away from the punk. Just to show the aesthetic.

Dan: And you di it was one of those where it was almost game the Thrones esque where characters

Sidey: just oh, I meant to mention that in My hot drinks,

Fuck.

Oh,

the Starbucks cup that was under the chair.

Reegs: Oh, that would've been a good one. Yeah. oh, but you're right. Yeah. Nobody had plot armor. You didn't know who was gonna live or, or die and yeah, just the other thing was about Anton Yelchin. What? I took, This was his last theatrical release. very, very good. in

it.

Dan: I lost 27 years old. That's

Reegs: you would've been doing now.

Sidey: Yeah. Sorry if it sounds

like we've got a bit of an a 24 fetish 'cause we are seeing

Reegs: I didn't realize until afterwards it was an A

Sidey: 24.

Yeah. We, we have watched a lot of them, but they are [01:04:00] studio making a load of fucking good films. So, you

know, cry about it. Strong recommend.

Dan: Strong recommend.

Reegs: Not for Nazis,

Sidey: No.

Dan: We didn't see any children's stuff.

Sidey: No, we did see the

rudder cup.

Dan: Ah, we did. Yeah. And obviously walking forward was going strong.

Sidey: Yeah. everything good on the sport

front?

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Reach his sister's birthdays just a month or so away,

Reegs: That's

right? Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Everything's going swimming.

Sidey: Yeah. We'll

come up with some numbers for next week.

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: let's do that.

Sidey: Alright.

All that remains is to say, society

signing out.

Dan: Dan has gone

Reegs: and it's a happy finish from res.