Missouri Breaks: The Ballad of Missouri Bill

Missouri Breaks The Ballad of Missouri Bill

Sidey: Missouri Breaks colon. The Ballad of Missouri

Bill.

doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. Or an IMDB entry.

Reegs: Right. Doesn't even have an IMDB entry.

Sidey: Right.

Dan: It's brand new. I think it's just been released out, isn't it?

Sidey: But it's a small, independent, low budget western. so Writer, director, star. Same guy.

And his name is Jared Christman.

Reegs: Oh, okay.

Cris: Or Christman, depending on where you're from.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Mm. Or

Cris: which

after watching this, I, I, I did tell you off air.

I apologize already.

Sidey: Well, let's see. '

cause maybe Dan and myself and you, Chris watched this re didn't have time.

Reegs: I didn't have.

Sidey: So maybe, maybe some of us will have something positive to say

Dan: because this, this is it's not big budget. You can see straight away. This is art house, I would say kind of approach.

There's people. Who have made this, written it, done all the music. It's a laborer love [00:01:00] kind of thing. You can see that the,

Sidey: well,

they seem

to be fans of

the genre for sure,

I'm trying to keep it alive.

Dan: Fans of the genre, also musicians, I think, 'cause they did the tracks themselves.

Sidey: Yeah. I was wondering if, if

the,

the Missouri breaks, is that the name

Of

the band?

That did the soundtrack because, yeah,

'cause

one thing when it's told in a sort of episodic, episodic structure.

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: Okay.

There's four different chapters to it or vinegarette.

But While we were watching it, I was really enjoying the score. I. When it's the kind of guitar.

Yeah. And the fiddle

kind of like traditional western

kind of sound western Yeah. Then it breaks into

what sounds like Nickelback. Oh during all the actiony bits,

Cris: it's not nickelback. It's

Sidey: but It sounds like that sounds quite, that's,

Cris: quite, that

Sidey: really sort of

contemporary rock music of the most generic, horrible it's really loud and really over the like.

Over the top of the action.

Do you know what I mean? I don't mean over the top. I mean, it's too loud. It takes away [00:02:00] from

what you seeing, what

Cris: the action is. Yeah.

Dan: Do that to me, to be honest, I I quite enjoyed this soundtrack. I thought it

Sidey: I, I enjoyed everything

apart from the nickel backes stuff. But the story itself so we start off, we're in

Reegs: we It's a period piece, is it?

Sidey: Yeah. It's set in 1880 Wyoming.

Reegs: There's

no relation to the, there's a Jack Nicholson film, isn't there?

Sidey: There's a 1976 Missouri breaks and that's got Jack Nisson and Marlon Brando.

Reegs: And it's no relation to that or

Dan: nothing to do with that. Which I thought it might be when I first I thought, oh, is this a playing off a character in that film?

Or you know, is it a prequel sequel that

Reegs: they

it's none of those. It's an original period piece set in 1880 in Wyoming.

Sidey: And it's, it's about this guy Missouri, bill. And we're gonna get to learn a bit about his backstory and what's going on. But at the, the time that we meet him, the very first bit, he's got a guy who's pointing his gun at him.

The guy's silence guy's got he is beating up a bit and he is giving him an ultimatums, like giving him instructions Right? you, you owe me.

We dunno quite

what's happened to [00:03:00] get us to this point, but he's given him some instructions. You need to go off there, see this guy,

do exactly what you're told,

If you don't fucking do what you're told, I will find you and I'll fucking kill you.

You know. Oh, okay. And then we go back to before that, don't we

few weeks before

Dan: Yeah. And

Sidey: on the screen

Dan: he's our, our kind of hero star guy. He's speaking to the wife and saying, I'm going to be running this cattle. why are you doing it?

There's, there's a guy there shooter shoot mcg Gavin and he, he's like a. A bad apple. Why are you going off with him? I don't like him. I, I'd feel a lot more comfortable if you, if you're going look, it's, I'm going with another guy, another few guys. They're all cool. It's, it's a good gig. This, it's lots of money.

I'm gonna be gone about three, four weeks or something. But you know, then we can get that house up that you wanted down in another place, or we can, we can move off. So it, [00:04:00] it's worth it. She's not convinced, but he goes anyway and they've just gotta drive this these

Sidey: three, or four cattle.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. There's not

Cris: yeah, there's not that

Sidey: they just Don't

have the budget

for it.

But it works It still works All Right. Yeah. there's, there's, there's a landowner guy, five or 30,

Dan: or 30, you know, you expect him back in their day, they've been 500, you know, but they don't

Sidey: guy's taken a

punt, doesn't he? He says, oh, this must have cost a lot. He goes, yeah, it did. But you know, It'll

pay off eventually. But he doesn't have enough help to like push these cattle around.

the, the

Dan: And,

and, you can imagine, you know, they weren't all 500 header cattle. You know, some, somebody's starting out a little bit smaller and he is saying, you know, we need the, not gonna eat any of them because we need these to have more calves

Sidey: and, yeah.

Dan: That's how I'm gonna make my money.

And that guy, smiley, is his name, smiley? Yeah, he's he's a nice guy, but he's very sort of straight. I mean, the actors, they all seem like they were mates or something, you know, that he's called in

Cris: he speaks the, the guy, this is my take on it because Missouri [00:05:00] bill is, you know, beard, long hair. He looks like a cowboy. He looks like a, like a cattle, you know, like, like he would fit and he kind of speaks a bit more from the south or more like how the Wild West would sound.

But smiley sounds like. He's a lawyer or he's a, you know, I dunno, he just sounds, he just sound, they're all dressed in the Western gear, but he just sounds like,

Dan: well he is the strong and silent type a lot of the time as well.

He doesn't have much, does he? To, to say just, which you can again, imagine back in the day, people were, you know, not

Cris: more stoic

Sidey: It's just tough. I mean, it's proper frontier.

stuff

Reegs: and that's the staple of the genre as well. The Yeah.

Sidey: But they, it gets to the end of the job and then him and shoot and mcg Gavin go off together. They, they become quite good pals

Dan: For

Sidey: time.

Dan: I think

Sidey: see

Dan: known each other before,

Sidey: Yeah,

they've got history and. We see them at various nights around the campfire having some grub. And, you know, their routine is, is them two together. And they get on. all right. They're

Dan: stories around the [00:06:00] campfire and it, it turns out that our main guy, what's his

Cris: Missouri.

Dan: Missouri. Bill. Missouri Bill. He, he's used to be a law man,

Sidey: that's Smiley that asked him, 'cause he sees his tattoos, isn't he? And he says, oh, I didn't know he used to be a ranger.

he said, yeah, I was. And you Know how, he said, how come you're not doing that He goes well. A lot of dead people.

There was an incident

and there was a lot of dead

Dan: don't like being shot at

Cris: in Memphis

Sidey: Yeah. And this is easier than being shot at and shooting people. So just, you know, that's like his prior, his, his previous life. And now he just kind of does this Okay. You sort of implied that maybe his wife got a bit freaked out by as well. And this is like the compromise. They've, they've moved away from that.

Right. And they're doing this sort of more kind of, like proper cowboy stuff. you

Reegs: But more honest work, more or less like.

Sidey: Yeah. But things can't go on like this

forever.

Dan: No.

Cris: shot, sorry to interrupt, but it's also shot in a way that you never see shooter.

Sidey: No. You never see his

face. So there

Cris: the through the chapters,

Reegs: is there some big reveal as to who shooter [00:07:00] is?

It's just,

Sidey: no,

it's, it is told like, you know.

Cris: You know, there's a, there's another

Sidey: person.

You just never see his face.

Reegs: All right.

Cris: The idea is, the way it's shot sometimes is, it's almost like a POV from shooter's point of view. Okay. Where, where he speaks about shooter, but the camera is basically shooter.

Sidey: And yeah, so he's explains all this to Smiley, and then Smiley's got some questions about shooter. And he says, oh, I've heard some stuff about him. And he says, yeah, his his mom died when he was dead young. And then his dad took to the booze And he was just abandoned, basically. And he says, oh, I, one thing I know is that children that grow up without father tend to be wrongs.

And so we know he is. this guy's got like

a bit

of

a, A bad streak to him.

Dan: They, they've been friends and they fought the war together as well. And that's one of the things he says to the wife is she's upset that he's, he's leaving for those three weeks. She said, I, I survived the war, didn't I? You know, it's don't worry about me.

I'll be fine. I got out of that. Okay. And

And, and [00:08:00] him, him, him and shooter were in the wall together. And it turns out in one of the. Campfire sessions,

Reegs: which war

Dan: having. So I imagine the, the Civil War. Yeah. Civil

Reegs: War. So he is former Civil War soldier and, and former Ranger as well.

So how he's, how old is he?

Sidey: 30.

Cris: like in his late forties, I would say. Or mid forties.

Sidey: It's tough paper around there. It probably wasn't that up.

Reegs: Yeah, well it's the west, well, west four unit.

Dan: that's right. Probably 20. But they've, and, and it flashes it, then it kind of breaks a scene. So it goes to the next vinegarette and it will talk about them driving the cattle.

And there's one of those heifer goes. Missing or wanders off. And they kind of go back and say, oh, they're talking again about shooter. He's gone to find it and they'll come back and it, at one point it's just smiley. And well, bill, and he's saying what happened [00:09:00] about, you know, why? 'cause he, he, he was asked.

Point blank by one of the younger guys. Tell me about why he did the, the law. And he goes, ah, that's another story, another time. But these two old hands are together now and it's just them two. And he's asking him what happened? well, we were kind of. Pinned down in the war in a, in a shooting situation or something.

And one of our men got killed and we managed, me and shooter managed to round up the rest of 'em. There's like seven of them. We disarmed them and we'd taken their guns away and

they were

kind of, you know, caught 'em all up and everything. And the captain then came of their regiment. He was a good man and there was one guy of that

from

Kentucky or something who had been talking too much.

He'd been talking too much about the guy that had been shot on their side. He had. Been [00:10:00] shot, but nobody could get up to go and save him because they would be shot running out into the open ground the same. So he was just there for hours shouting and shouting and then, and then just bled out. And then it was silence.

And while Bill was talking about, I really liked this, you know, I, I thought this story

Reegs: atmospheric, isn't it?

Yeah. So

Dan: It's around the, the campfire. And he is saying, I

Reegs: He just listened to the guy die.

Dan: just listen to the guy die. And I'd never heard a, you know, a, a. Silence like that before it was really chilling and it affected shooter

Reegs: Yeah, that's why I can't keep thinking about this movie's being essentially told from the perspective of shooter.

Are you saying because the camera

Dan: the, the camera's there a lot of the time, but what

Cris: not, he's not always present.

Yeah.

Dan: Hardly at all.

Cris: No, no. But around the campfire, he's there when there's only the two of them running the cattle, there's a different conversation without him there. It, it's, it's interesting, but it's also a bit, because you never see him, you don't really know when, [00:11:00] when he is there or not.

Dan: I mean, they've, as I say, they've clearly done the, it's not a Hollywood budget film, you know, this is, is something that they've probably put together for a, a few hundred grand at the most, you know and it's, it's around the story and the

Reegs: which is these episodes that sort of build on backstory and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. And is there a greater narrative that runs through them all or,

Dan: well, this, this, this part here is, as I say, shooter is in this story, he ended up killing these seven guys and the captain

Reegs: Ooh.

Dan: and, and. He, while Bill kind of knew it had happened and it, the, the thing is he's, he's either suppressed it or he just didn't want to admit it because he was kind of a friend at one point.

And he knew that he had this wild side about him, but he didn't really want to ever admit it that he had done this. And he goes, how did the captain die? [00:12:00] And he goes, oh, he just seemed to get stabbed in the Malay of a big fight. 'cause they just made it up. There was a, a big fight. He must have gone off for a bit and come back and you see it was, it was just this pool of blood you know, they were all kind of whining and dying and and shoot, there was just cold eyes.

Didn't say anything,

Sidey: but shoot, shoot is when he's left the war, he's been shot. he's Been wounded like severely a couple of times. He always survives. Right.

Dan: Yeah. More holes in him

Sidey: which is the theme that come, that comes back later on. But things are really gonna get interesting now because

Cris: they deliver the cattle, they,

Sidey: they,

they finished the job.

Yeah.

Dan: He gets paid and he says, it's my last job. I'm not doing it anymore. I'm going off.

Reegs: as he promised his wife, we're gonna buy the big house.

Dan: this triggers something in Shooter who considers he's a friend and.

to, he needs him as

a partner and he doesn't take well to people leaving him repressed father kind of thing going [00:13:00] on.

Sidey: So he gets Silas and he gets another dude. that, I can't remember his connection to, it all.

Cris: Yeah. He's just another, another cowboy. Yeah. I can't remember

Sidey: the three of them.

And they go off to

Dan: to Wild Bill's house. Wild Bill's

Sidey: Bill's house go and take the wife, beat her up and kid her.

Reegs: right.

Dan: And gonna sell her to the Indians or,

Sidey: or,

rape her or just blackmail him or whatever.

But they, they

The

shooter is left behind a little bit of something off his, part of his fucking,

Reegs: so Missouri

Sidey: like a, a like a belt buckle effectively, and he finds it on the floor bill and thinks, Right. You fucker, I'm coming for you.

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Dan: So,

he

Reegs: so it becomes a revenge movie now? Yeah.

Dan: He goes into Terminator mode. He got a mate called the Reverend who's a. He's is a reverend who's kept his stuff in a trunk.

He goes to a

Sidey: He's hidden tree

Dan: where he is hidden a key, and then he goes to the reverend, he gets all out his old stuff and everything.

Cris: He's all black like it all in black.

Sidey: the, it's the man in black.

routine Now[00:14:00]

Dan: Yeah, his spurs, his guns and everything and he's gonna kick ass. And he goes back to Smiley's place who kind of. Heard they might be going up one way and if he goes another way, he might be able to head him off.

And Smiley says, do you want me to come with you? And he goes, no, no, for me. I'm just gonna go and do this. And he manages to find them and start shooting them down and everything.

Sidey: He does some nice tracking, doesn't he? 'cause he, yeah, we

have seen a shot. He gets shot basically by. Shooter, he's out in the open. Yeah. And we see him get sh shot with

a

rifle and

Dan: right. Yeah. Just after he is taken the wife

Sidey: of becomes irrelevant really. 'cause he does eventually go after him and he's tracking them and he goes a full Aragon here he can see bits of broken twig on the floor. And he can tell that actually that's been broken fairly recently.

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: Okay.

In that

Dan: in that direction. You

Sidey: almost sort of smell them. And then he, he does get, get the scent of them and they are very close and they, they've basically gone taken the high grounds and he's at the bottom. [00:15:00] And they've got him pinned down with rifle and a couple of

just

handguns, just pinning him down. But they're fucking useless. So eventually he's just like, right. And shooters sort of

like

egging him on saying, oh, maybe I'll just keep it for myself and fucking have my way with her. And then he is like, right, fuck it. And he.

he just gets

up and sort of just basically walks towards them and they can't fucking hit a bond door.

No.

Reegs: Well I think a lot of shootouts were like that in the west, weren't

Sidey: Yeah. So Silas.

Reegs: a lot

Sidey: he just pistol whips and hits it is like, fuck off. And I think he knows. if He is like, stop in a prick. And then the next guy, he just guns him down and shoot legs exit

Dan: a exit. And he's run outta bullets, but he manages

Sidey: he gets him the wife actually the wife's been

quite instru in the fight. She's gone over and sort of

knocked him down

and then he's got her and she's biting him. But Yeah, he sees shooter running

Reegs: when people are shot. Is it like Squibbs and stuff or just

Sidey: like almost no blood in it at

all.

He, he can't shoot him. He's run out

Dan: been punched

Sidey: Yeah, she's been beaten up a bit

Reegs: bit of makeup,

Dan: of makeup in the, in the face and everything.

Sidey: Then then we go back, to, this is where he's had, started at the very start of the movie [00:16:00] and he is,

Reegs: I see

Sidey: you tell me where He is gone. He's like, I dunno where he is going. He's like, if you don't fucking tell me I'm just gonna kill you.

He's I

dunno But this is when he gives him that ultimatum. you go to whatever town it is. Do this, do that. And he's gonna follow him. He is gonna find out where he is. Basically the crux of how he's gonna, vote. they're gonna have this fucking head to head. Yeah.

So he's got, now Silas on his side, he's got the Reverend and smiley, George

Smiley from, yeah.

Tinker Taylor.

Cris: he sends his Mrs. Home.

Sidey: Yeah, he drops her off says, I've gotta go and do

this.

Dan: He, he drops off at Smiley's place, isn't he? And smiley and his Mrs. Is there, and they take her in and he goes, right, I'm off again. You know what I've gotta do, don't you? And she's off you

Sidey: But this is where he's, he's been to this native guy because one of the chapters called the Oracle, and this guy says to him while they're smoking the Peace pipe, he's like, This is your demon to slay. you know, He is like, I just don't, I don't

get

Dan: I dunno, that guy's like a figment of his imagination,

Cris: he? Almost, yeah. I

Dan: think that guy is, and he's a guy I think you would've seen before in, in, in other [00:17:00] films that

Sidey: like a little big man and stuff like that.

Dan: Yeah. He, he would've played native American Indians in, in other films and

Sidey: But he says, He he says, I don't get it. Like he got shot in the war and he survived and he got shot here.

And he goes, that's because it's only you that can end this. You're the one who has to take him

down.

Dan: And he realizes that when they were in Memphis and he, he left, he was stabbed in Memphis.

Right. And shooters saved him. Mm-hmm. Shooter. Found him and managed to save him. But then he actually realizes he

Sidey: was, shoot,

Dan: is probably fucking shooter that did it, stabbed him. And then 'cause it was in the dark and there was a fucking ha you know, how he and he just suppressed all these things 'cause he didn't wanna

Reegs: acknowledged the

Dan: know, didn't want to acknowledge the truth.

But it comes down to a, a shootout. And,

Sidey: I think they got Silas

to basically give him a message to come to this town and they'd be, wa he'd be waiting for him.

Yeah.

So shoot comes in and then he's just there in all his gear. You See him walking out, you know, know it's a classic, you know, there's the shoot, you know, like a jewel, a dawn, yeah. The

three [00:18:00] guys are waiting, like, so he doesn't do any funny

business and it's just a

fair fight where they just like I don't know, 10 meters apart or whatever.

it is. And

Reegs: that's how the matrix fight between Smith and Neo starts, isn't it?

Sidey: And then just waiting for the draw.

Dan: And he gets, he gets a, he does it

Sidey: him, bang, shoot. He doesn't hit the deck. And you hear shoot a and they kind of, I don't know if they were setting up 'cause they just show him, they show his hand with the gun still in it.

And I thought,

oh, he is gonna, no, he's gonna do a shit. But no, he, He's dead. He's gone.

Dan: He's gone. Dead, dead.

Sidey: that's really it.

Cris: yeah.

Dan: that's really it. There was some really

Reegs: go back to Carol Smiley's.

Dan: No,

no,

Cris: They don't show anything else afterwards. It's just like the credits and

Dan: was, it is an hour, hour and a half. There was some really nice shots, you know, some stills and things and landscape because

Sidey: Yeah, I think they did do that, that quite well. They did, they did set this,

Reegs: Was

it digital or film or what was it? It,

Sidey: was digital. But

they did, you know, you can, you can get like a dig I drone and make things look really good.

And They did do that. They really paid homage to the location and, and [00:19:00] some of the period detail I thought was, was spot on. their Outfits. I thought maybe like almost too good. They looked.

Yeah. They

didn't look like a guy had been like doing season after season of fucking cowboy Ranch. you know, they were like pristine fucking leather.

And you're like, mm. But they all looked like the right things, you

Reegs: the right detail.

Sidey: So that's probably what they could get hold of. But it's so fucking slow. It's really slow, really

slow.

Cris: It's really slow.

Sidey: for me, you just don't care about anyone. It

it.

like. fair play. They've, they've got it together and they've done it and they've made it.

But some of it's like really shoddy as well. So

they're.

they'll, they'll do a fade between one scene and another. And there's one particular one where it's him and Smiley talking,

Yeah.

and then you can see the other thing start to come in. But it's like fucking, ages, Honestly, like 30 seconds for, it to fade. into other one. You're like, just do it quicker.

I don't know. just it was a bit shoddy and the soundtrack is. So

jarring to me, the contemporary, like,

Reegs: with the nickelback is no good, is it?

Well,

Dan: it is interesting. You see the credits of modern films and they'll run for five, 10 minutes sometimes, you know,

Reegs: and a [00:20:00] half minutes. The credits for the matrix words. You

see

Dan: there you go. And they're running quite quick, you know, and the ma the, the credits for this. You see the same names

Sidey: coming Yeah. It's just a few people. Multiple roles. Yeah. so

Dan: this is. Multiple roles doing, you know, producing, editing,

Reegs: and an original story by the writer,

Dan: By the writer. Original music,

Sidey: sort of original, but

Dan: it's got, it's got to

Cris: it's very generic though.

It is not,

Dan: It's won a load of

Reegs: so is this art or is this one of these tax things where somebody's just made

Sidey: I think it's some people who are dead into it have wanted to make one and they have made it and it actually looks good. it does look good. The story itself is like generic, if not.

Like, no, I'm not gonna say it's real, but it is generic and it's just, it could be better and hopefully they'll go on after after this or you know, give them the platform to make other stuff that's really good. But if you wanna see a Western where a guy goes after someone who's had off with his wife, then watch the outlaw Joseph Wells. 'cause it's amazing. This is not that.

Dan: no,

[00:21:00] that's it. And I think it's unfair to compare it to something like the production value of, of that where

Sidey: but it's not, but you watch. but Clint has, you know, Clint has something on the screen. that they no amount of money

with these, people would get that. You just don't gonna get that.

Dan: No, I, I get that there.

I mean, there obviously it was a. It was a labor of love. This, you could see that they'd put a, a lot of time and effort into it that there was it certainly, you know, missed a, a few tricks in, in as far as Clint Eastwood or, you know, whoever's gonna be pointing the camera would have it for his experience or, and it looked like.

They probably could have done with that extra expertise and input into turning this into, you know, just polishing it a little bit more as far as the

Sidey: but

good horse content.

Dan: content, I, I just think that it'd be interesting to know there's not a lot online. The interesting to know the budget and, and you know, the time [00:22:00] it took and, and everything to do it.

But for me it's like this is a minuscule budget. It's quite a big project in the, in the size. Big ambitions, big ambitions and things.

Reegs: Well, we like that sort of thing

Dan: that sort of thing, and I, I think it's. You know, fair play to him. I mean, I enjoyed it. It, it was I think that it is just the kind of films that people can make themselves.

Yeah. You know, that you've got the ambition, you've written it, you've done the music, you've done all the editing, and you say, I did this fucking western. Check it out and it stands up. You know, give them a 5 million quid.

Experts to do the editing for them and to

Reegs: me 5 million quid

Dan: And you could get a lot, you could get a lot more out of it, I think, but hopefully, as side said, this will give them the, the springboard to go and do some more and make it a good show of it.

I enjoyed it. I enjoyed

Sidey: What, what are you saying, Chris?

Cris: I've recommended it because I've looked on Amazon Prime and it kind of popped up and I, I, [00:23:00] I always love a western. I've seen that it was at a few festivals and I thought, right, this must be a bit of a niche one, but I thought it's gonna be something about it. Very slow paced.

It's, it's a bit too slow for me. The stories and the idea initially and the fact that you never see shooter, I thought it was really interesting and really original. Really to, to not actually see the actor. That is probably the main

Reegs: Well, that's right. It seems quite weird that,

Cris: Bill. But, and, and, and it's in, in Sudan's point.

I don't know the numbers and I looked to, to try to find the budget

Sidey: whatever. There's nothing on

Cris: I've seen, I've seen the, some fucking thing with Nicholas Cage, who definitely had a bigger budget than this. Yeah. And it was. Probably worse than this. Yeah, he was just shooting Buffalo and just, I can't remember. I, I talked about about it on the pod a couple of months ago and I watched it just because I thought, oh, okay, this is gonna be a western, it's gonna cage, it's gonna be fine.

This one was kind of on the level, but [00:24:00] definitely a lot of millions under the budget of that. So with that in mind, it wasn't that bad.

Just too slow.

Sidey: It's really

slow. It's really

Cris: And, and for a western revenge at the same time, it doesn't have the cliches of a Western, there's no poker table, there's no, the only shootout, like real shootout is at the end when you kind of expect

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Cris: There's no too thick and

Reegs: a bar looking a saloon. Doors.

Cris: exactly.

There's no.

Dan: a saloon and they, they did serve beer, which looked far too good.

It looked

Sidey: It looked. I was like, I'd drink That

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I bet they wouldn't get that back in their day. It'd be like

Sidey: Everything was a bit off

Cris: but you know what I mean, they didn't look, they didn't have the poker table, they

Sidey: No, no,

Cris: the, or the, I dunno, three car Monte or whatever, or

Reegs: prostitute

Cris: the proceeds.

They didn't have that. So it was, it was, it was less cliche

Dan: cast,

Cris: cast, less cliche than that. And also it didn't have any. Indian killing, and there was no relation to Indians. They didn't really do any, any

Sidey: no, it was white on white [00:25:00] crime.

Cris: It was just the, the guy that was either a vision or or a

his conscience really, or whatever.

So strong, recommend.

Sidey: Strong,

Dan: Strong recommend.