The Business

The Business

Sidey: We're here with three or. three.

Dan: Yes. The original three. The, the strong. Amigos original. No, I wouldn't call it strong either, but fake, Yeah.

Cris: Under license. We, we work under license. We're not, we're not original, but we're not fake either. So it kind of the middle ground. Well,

Dan: you know, we're ducking and diving.

We're wheeling and dealing because it's the business edition. isn't it

Cris: it is the business edition.

Dan: We're all a couple of, well, all bankers really, aren't we?

similar,

Cris: normally it's a good balance between finance and us. Two peasants. Yeah. But this time you're outnumbered

Sidey: Am I? Yeah.

I know Scam. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Oh, the bankers have lost interest.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. Well, we have to say that our beloved Simon,

s Simon Riggs, his

Sidey: at wedding,

Cris: Decided to, to abandon us selfishly, to go to his ne nephew yeah,

nephew's wedding in

Sidey: Scarborough, wasn't it?

Cris: Yes. Scarborough.

Dan: Fair

Sidey: past East Sage. You know that? Yeah. I

believe

Dan: it was. I

Sidey: I

believe a good time was

had by [00:01:00] all. Yeah,

'cause it was yesterday.

Cris: Oh, was it already happening?

did they say yes?

Okay. Well, there we go.

Dan: Yeah. Well, they they're going to start a hot air blue business, I think, but I'm not sure it's gonna take off.

but

Sidey: We're going

Dan: for it anyway. And we are all about business this week,

Sidey: Aren. Yeah, we are.

We are It's business week. Yes. it's

business

Dan: We did risky business. Earlier in the week. That was that,

Cris: Tom. Yeah. And Tom, Rebecca. Becca for, for

Dan: Cruiser,

Sidey: cruise Miss. Oh yeah.

Yeah, that was, I quite enjoyed it

actually. it was good. What

about anything non-business related? Did you watch anything this week on the television?

Dan: I've been watching actually. I've been reading a book there. Woo. And it's, it's all been about World War ii.

Sidey: right? Who won?

Dan: so I've, I've kind of been watching World War II documentaries about Hitler this week.

And

Sidey: so many laws.

Dan: And it's been quite interesting. It's just given

Cris: Where did you watch them on YouTube or [00:02:00] Netflix or,

Dan: actually, I

think it was Netflix.

Cris: the Color? The World War II in Color? Because I

Dan: it was Hitler's Inner Circle. And it's like 10 episodes only got through two or three of them.

Yeah, we all

Cris: absolute laws, I would

Dan: bunch of lows. But it talked all about people that this book was. Talking about

Cris: Is that, is that the same name of the book?

Dan: No it, the book is a made up book. It's by Philip Kerr.

Cris: You love

a spy book though?

Dan: Yeah. Well, he's a police officer. Internal Affairs.

for The East Germans. But I'm surprised that they've not made it into a film. Maybe one day they will because he's, he's quite a character, this guy. He's like an anti-hero. But he's much better than the Nazis and and he holds them to account, if you like, and he, he loves seeing them getting fucked up.

But he isn't so great himself. Yeah, so I've been watching mainly that kind of content this week. Which is very different to [00:03:00] what I would normally watch.

Cris: Okay.

Well you, you've got, we have to say this is not normal for you as well because you've got the family away. So you, you just kind of been by yourself.

Dan: of keep my numbers up

Cris: Yeah, exactly. S have you been,

Sidey: I, well, I just discovered that?

iPlayer has got all the President's men on there. Okay. I love that film. I haven't seen it in a year or two, so I was watching that.

Dan: Remind me who, what,

Cris: who, what what all the president's

Dan: there.

Sidey: come on man. It's Redford,

Redford and Hoff man.

Dan: yeah. Okay.

Sidey: in the take down of Nixon, the, the,

Cris: Oh yes. Okay.

Sidey: Okay. Washington Times the journalist that, Yeah, it's

Cris: Okay. yeah, yeah.

Sidey: so watching that, watch some more of the bear.

And just Christopher collects every day. Love that. She was trying to talk to me before, and like showed me so looking for flights for whole day. I'm, hang on babe.

Dan: Wait a

Sidey: Christopher, just founder Marco's wireless transmission. Two Panco

Dan: and for those of

you that, that don't know that is a huge deal. Well, wireless man. Coney two pound coin Chris Collects is a YouTube video. If you [00:04:00] know, you know Um, and, and go through it. What, what, what kind

Sidey: we were actually

Dan: stage were we

Sidey: you know, you know, package

Most people in their house have a room that stuff's just been like, dumped in. and Eventually have to get out. So we were clearing out the spare room the other day and we found some things that had been bought for Mallam when she was born. And

she's got all the coins that, these coins that were minted that

Dan: Oh, nice.

Sidey: I was like

like Christopher, fucking love it.

Dan: He would absolutely love

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: Gonna flog these off to oh,

nice.

Cris: yeah. That's very nice.

Sidey: That's about it really. That and homework.

Cris: Is this bear finished? It is. Like, is this a, a, a a series that has an ending already?

Sidey: know.

They just had the series four and I dunno if it

ends at series four But I have

read that it kind of, it gets a little bit

diminishing

Cris: Okay. I'm going to, to plug in a restaurant over here in Jersey because I used to work for the guys at ley Street and they're opening a restaurant,

Sidey: All right.

Cris: which should be opening soft opening the 25th of this [00:05:00] month.

Sidey: What? And

Ley is still going as

well.

Cris: They will once this one, the new one opens, it'll close for two months, refurbishment for the old one.

And then they'll keep both,

Sidey: double team it

Cris: operating. But the new one is called The Bear.

Sidey: Oh, okay.

Cris: what it is. It's called, it's got really cool logo and it's, it's, it's a English gastro cuisine, let's say whatever it's called. And that, that's just a, a plug for whoever

Sidey: was where, where's it gonna be?

Cris: It's going to be where Crosstown needs to be.

Sidey: about. Oh, okay. Right on the, high street?

Cris: Yes. Right on the high street bar downstairs, restaurant upstairs.

Dan: What kind of food did you say they do?

Cris: Traditional British gastro gastro British. And I also have been watching, thanks for asking by the way. That's what I do. The only thing I watched is a series called The Counter Monte Crito.

It's my favorite book. I've read it numerous times, and whenever there's a film about it, I'll watch it. This time is a series which I'm generally disappointed in the films because the films are

Sidey: Don't Do it Justice.

Cris: well.

The book is, is like, [00:06:00] Shogun is two volumes of 650 pages. So it's so much

Sidey: and such

Cris: such a.

Up and down adventure that you can't put it in a film, even if it's a two part film. So a series works quite well because it goes through it more in depth. And I watched the first four episodes and it's a, it's a British, French and Italian production. And so far I'm really enjoying it. And because it's not French, it's filmed in France and Italy, but it's not French.

It's all the actors speak English. They're all British. So it, it's quite easy to follow rather than changing from Italian to English to French to whatever. So it's, it's, yeah. So I enjoy that so far.

Sidey: Some disturbing, shocking and disturbing news this week in in entertainment.

Did you read about Dean Cain?

Dan: Yeah, I did. He's he is gone to the dark side, isn't he?

Sidey: he? Dean King. What happened

Formerly of Superman Fame? Well, no, He,

is definitely of Superman. fame. He's joined

Ice. He's now a full maga.

Cris: Is he?

Sidey: he? Yeah. If it's brown, it goes down. He's, he's gotta get rid of all those

[00:07:00] foreigners.

He's, he

properly signed up to get rid of people he doesn't like that are different skin colors, I guess.

Really. Yeah. And

Cris: what the fuck,

Sidey: man, So happens that the same week, the, the latest south Park offering was all about ice and it was fucking brilliant. About Christine, I and all those fucking scums. It was absolutely outstanding. Brilliant. Really, really good. And we also had a communicate from right over the other side of the world about you or in response to you Christian from Mel

in Australia.

She said, Mel says so, so happy to hear that Chris watched boys Swallows universe. I

didn't know it had gone global. Such a great show. Highly recommended. I think that should be a strong recommender. I also have a small connection to it. the boy that plays the older version of the lead character.

Eli. Mel's daughter directed him in a student film she made at uni. so that's cool. okay.

So you made Mel's Day

there. I

Cris: Do you know why I told you? I, I really enjoyed it and I never thought I'll say this about an Australian production,

Sidey: Don't No, it'd be mean.

Cris: No, no, no, no. Because I don't know, I don't know much about and, [00:08:00] and the only thing I've, I in my head that I watched was neighbors and I thought I was

Sidey: no wrong.

It's brilliant.

Cris: And I watched another thing called, I'm gonna say tracks about a girl that goes with a dog and a camel across.

The Australian

Sidey: Oh, you guys walkabout.

Dan: Yeah. I'm glad you said across after that 'cause it, it seemed like

uh,

Sidey: it's a different kind of film.

Dan: movie there. for

Cris: No, no, no, no, It was, it is, it is just a, a, a,

Dan: right.

Okay. Yeah.

Cris: And, and

it was, it's, it's, it was a nice enough film, but I didn't really, I dunno. So, so this one was quite funny and quite, I, I still didn't get, if it's fiction or

what

it's actually about, but it was good. I enjoyed it and a lot of mullets. So I, I'm

Dan: strong. mullet

Sidey: mullet content. you

love that.

Rumors of a quiz.

Okay. And we're gonna talk about business. Should we, should we

get stuck into the top five.

Dan: you. go quiz first

Cris: first or top five? First

Sidey: quiz?

First.

Dan: Quiz first. Okay. Right. [00:09:00] So, crazy quiz. Basically you are gonna, I'm gonna read out a quote. Yeah. And you are going to tell me. The, one of the four films. In fact, I'll read out the four films,

Sidey: right? Yeah. That would

Dan: And then I'm gonna read out a quote and you I were gonna say Money Business or Monkey Business.

Okay. It depending if it's a business film or it's a sex scene.

Sidey: Right.

Dan: Right. Okay. Let's just See how it goes.

Sidey: Can we, can we, do a trial run with the first one?

Dan: or do a nice, easy one. American Psycho. Wall Street. The wall for Wall Street. Jerry McGuire. Show me the money.

No.

Sidey: Monkey Business.

Cris: No.

Money.

Money. Money.

Dan: Money. Business.

Sidey: So we're saying

Cris: money or monkey.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: that Show me the money is him in,

Dan: in in Jerry McGuire. It's money.

Sidey: Talking about, isn't it with

Cuba?

Dan: Okay. Let's, let's see

Sidey: I got it. I got it. I

Dan: Let's see if we, we go onto, onto the next one and see if you have a little more.

So it could be [00:10:00] eyes wide shut. Yeah. It Could be basic instinct. Yeah. It could be strange days. It could be the 1944 film to have and have not. You know how to whistle, don't you? Just put your lips together and blow.

Is that monkey business or money? Business

Sidey: monkey business.

Dan: And the film

Cris: eyes

wide shut,

Sidey: basic instinct.

Dan: You did get monkey business right? but you didn't get to have and to have not that 1944 Classic. There you go. I'm gonna do it slightly different this way. Greed, for lack of a better word, is good.

Sidey: Okay.

It's,

Wall Street.

Cris: It's

Sidey: Monkey money. Business,

Dan: Chris, you came in first. What's your answer?

it.

what wall? You

Wall Street. You're one up here. You know, there's rules to this, this

Sidey: But you flipped them.

Dan: Well, I have, you've gotta stay on your toes. Yeah. I want I want you and the thought of anyone else having you is like a [00:11:00] knife twist in my dark soul.

Cris: Monkey business.

Dan: Which film though, are you sure?

Sidey: Monkey

Cris: Monkey Business? Yeah.

Sidey: gonna, say I, I've got a

idea, I dunno if it's right.

Cris: Is this, oh, I can't remember

Sidey: would've said Fatal

Attraction,

Cris: the one on the boat with Tom Barringer. And is that

Sidey: fatal Dead Calm.

Dan: see. I I would've given you another, you, you're both wrong here.

You had, if you would've listened for an extra clue. 50 Shades of Gray. The dream is body heat or blue is the warmest color. And this came from 50 Shades of Gray.

seeing it. Yeah, Okay.

Sidey: I don't think I've seen any of those in

Dan: So, A, B, C, A, always B, B, C. Closing. Always be closing.

Sidey: Money Business.

Glen, Garry, Glen,

Dan: Yes, it is. It's one, one. He is back.

Sidey: in the game. Back in the game.

Dan: Back in the gate. Back in the gate

Cris: idea what he just said.

Dan: what you just said. Look, if you are a man, you go into business for yourself. I know a fellow started last year with just a canoe, and now he's got more women than you could shake his stick at.

Cris: Business Money Business.[00:12:00]

Dan: It is from Monkey Business, carnal Knowledge. The apartment or breakfast at Tiffany's.

Sidey: I'm gonna say it's car carnal Knowledge.

Dan: Well, you are wrong. It's Monkey Business and it's Monkey Business. The classic Marx Comedy Trophy. It's still locked at one one in my, we've got three questions to go.

So hang in

Sidey: Oh, this is tense.

Dan: The key

to this business is personal relationships.

Sidey: Ooh.

Dan: Office space. The founder, the internal Jerry McGuire.

Sidey: It's money business. And I'm gonna say it's the founder.

Dan: You are wrong.

Cris: The intern.

Dan: And you are wrong. It's it's money business.

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: but it's Jerry McGuire again.

Yeah. We've

doubled up on Jerry McGuire. This is all about the, you know. There's two to go.

May my rod and staff comfort the.

Do you want the clues? Yeah. Yeah. It's Allison Wonderland, the cook, [00:13:00] the thief, his wife and her lover. Crash your eyes. Wide shut. May my rod staff comfort. The,

Sidey: what was the first one?

Dan: Alice Wonderland from 1976,

Sidey: I say Monkey Business.

Dan: You are correct with Monkey Business.

Sidey: And

I'm gonna go eyes wide shut.

Cris: I'm gonna go B whatever. B was, it was,

Dan: it was the cook, the thief, his wife and

her lover. And you're wrong as well. And you are wrong as well. It was Alice Wonderland. Is it adult themed? Erotic Fantasy film version that's, There we go. Course trick question. They're full of trick question. We've got two to go and you are locked at one. One. It could finish. Two. Two, it may not do. On the last one I'm gonna take Monkey Business or Money

Cris: Right. It's

Dan: on this one. The quote is, love flies out the door when money becomes Innuendo.

Monkey Business, [00:14:00] wall Street, American Psycho, or the Wolf of Wall Street,

Sidey: I

think it's the Wolf of Wall Street. No innuendo.

Dan: Love flies out the door when money becomes innuendo.

Sidey: what was the first film?

I think it's Monkey Business.

Dan: American Psycho. The Wolf of Wall Street.

Sidey: I'm going with Monkey Business.

Monkey Business

Dan: Monkey. Business Monkey Business.

Cris: I'm going Monkey. Business and Money. Money Business. Wolf of Wall Street.

Dan: You are wrong. You are correct. Jonathan. You have, do you have the lead. And we're, this is it, this is the Paul even. Well, it's no trick to make a lot of money if all you wanna do is make a lot of money.

Sidey: Clues.

Dan: Well, I mean,

Sidey: Monkey business

Dan: you say monkey business, even though we've, we've mentioned money, twice there. Money

Sidey: business. Sorry,

Dan: it is in Cain, Is it the Godfather? Is it the big short or is it Margin Call

Sidey: I think it

Cris: the big

Short.

Sidey: like the last

one, the way you said [00:15:00] it. Money, business.

Margin call.

Dan: and

Chris You, you are wrong. So, it's, it's Citizen Kane. It's money business.

Sidey: I've seen that film about a billion times. I

can't remember. that.

I

Dan: I don't

Cris: I don't think I've ever seen

Dan: Well, feel free to, to use this quiz again if you like, if you wanted just to use all those answers again.

I name you the winner. Yeah, Jonathan, well done. two, one.

Sidey: Good game. Well, on. Chris. Good, good competition.

now

Dan: Good competition. You're Very

Sidey: Right. And

Dan: to the

Sidey: so that segues

very,

almost too well if anything into this week's top five, of top five businesses. is

Dan: Zzz. And this, is,

Sidey: So, how about quite a lot of, there's quite a lot of wickedness when it comes to businesses like big, evil,

Corporations.

Bingo. Okay.

Corporation. What about the Wayland Utan Corporation? Do you Remember

that one's from

Cris: Wayland?

T

Dan: Wayland

Sidey: I give you a clue. oh, Go on. Aliens.

It's the alien world.

Is

that I just told the answer It wasn't clear. They're the ones who kind of want to [00:16:00] get the Xena morph back and do like, somehow monetize a fucking like maniac hunting, killing machine in some way. And generally speaking, the plot of the film robs around them wanting to get hold of a, a specimen.

And

that being at odd with just general

survival and

people's wellbeing they appear across a lot of them and they have that guy that, I forget the fucking guys, not only actors really good. as like a really slimy, sort of double crossing corporate sleaze bag. who works for them in aliens. He's really good in that.

If any, I can remember his name, but yeah, the Wayland Tane Corporation.

Cris: Okay.

I've got a film which I have seen personally with

Sidey: Nice. Good.

Cris: And it's based on a book a nonfiction book written in 2011 by Diana b Henrique, and it's called The Wizard of Lies,

Sidey: right.

Cris: It starts Bobby De Niro and Michelle Pfeiffer, and it is directed by Barry Levinson and it explores the deception, lies and cover up [00:17:00] surrounding Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme.

Dan: yeah, I've seen this. Yeah.

Cris: honestly, I've never even heard of this guy and it's the

Sidey: biggest scheme

I was back. We just have to do stuff at work for for like people who'd invested in stuff.

but, but with him And lost all their money, honestly,

Cris: he, he just tricked so many people and just asked for so much money and he made so much money. And just,

Dan: he still alive in prison or is he passed away now?

I

Sidey: I

Cris: don't

know, but this is, it is a good film. And again, it's one of them because I read, I read a few bits afterwards about it and they were like, ah. And what they say in the, in the film is pretty much what they say in the book, that the, his two sons kind of disowned him because he's like, they made a lot of money and they, but they were never allowed to be.

Involved in

Sidey: the like, kept them out.

Cris: Yeah, he kept them out just so they don't know. And then, and then when they eventually found out, because the FBI got closer and closer and closer, they turned on him and gave all the information to the FBI and they [00:18:00] disowned him, didn't speak to him, didn't really want, want anything to, to do with him.

And the, the wife is philanthropist in the movie played by Michelle Pfeiffer. And and she did

Sidey: So Is

is Bobby the

Cris: he is, he is Bobby, like Bernie Madoff.

Dan: Yeah. I

Sidey: It's mad. 'cause you think like People work their whole life and their whole pension's tied up and the shit, and it's gone, you know? everything's Fucking,

gone. It's

Dan: I

think a lot of the money that he did was from people that probably had other income streams, but it still,

Sidey: oh,

Cris: there's a few, there's a few of them, there's a few scenes in the film that apparently they're exactly the way he would do it.

Where he, there's, there was a thing where he said in one night he needed $75 million. To keep it going and keep it rolling. And he approached this guy, he is like, but he, the way he would do it, would he, he would kind of, the way we say it in Romania, he would throw a pill in a glass, so he'll just to see the ripples.

Yeah. And then people would pick up the ripples and he would just say no to you until you're so desperate that you want in Yeah. That you give him more than he actually [00:19:00] needs. Yeah. And then he calls the guy at the end of the evening, he's like, don't worry, we've got 150 million. We, we keep going. And the guy's like, how did you do that?

Dan: said, don't worry, Fine. Yeah. Well, the, these people kind of sold the, the story and he was, yeah, it it was it was a clever obviously film, but a real devious guy. A another guy who was kind of devious the story of Ray Crock. He he. Built McDonald's into the fast food chain that it was, it was a Keaton.

Sidey: Michael Keaton. Yeah. Yeah,

Cris: seen that. I've seen the

film.

Sidey: did it. on the po Yeah. The founder. It's

Cris: very

good. The film.

Dan: It, It really is. And he is always a, a, a guy who's looking for the next big business, whatever that is. It could be ice cream, it could be you know,

Cris: what was he actually selling when he got to these guys?

Restaurants? Ice milkshake thing. The

Dan: milkshake, thing or an ice cream thing. and he just watched from a car park, this burger [00:20:00] firm delivering, you know what fast food,

Sidey: mapped it out, isn't it? Chalk on the tennis court with how, how the flow of the restaurant needed to be to be super efficient.

And then he just took that to the next stage of like franchising it.

and,

Dan: was it. He f he franchised it and, and it was

Sidey: but it was still supposed to be a restaurant, you know, it was like fast food, but decent. And when he saw the people littering and stuff, he.

he was,

He wasn't happy

Dan: No, no. He, he tried, you know, it, it

Sidey: became too big. Yeah.

Dan: Different levels of, of, Of shit after that really. And now it's the, the worst shit you could probably ever put in your mouth. But it's still really, really popular and he, he seems to think it's, it's most popular because of the name McDonald's and that's what he was buying, you know, if you watch the film all the way through, he goes, do you know McDonald's, it just kind of roll. It's all American. It's, it's, it's apple pie. It's, it's all that kind of branding that he knew, but his you know, empire building up and his ambition to, to make [00:21:00] McDonald's what it was, and, and sealing off these two the McDonald's brothers at the, at the beginning made a really great film.

Yeah. we Enjoyed it. didn't

Sidey: what about some fast food ones then from movies? And TV got lost Paul Ano.

Cris: Poeo. Siro.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: the

Sidey: Breaking

Dan: that's breaking bad,

Sidey: There's

another one, isn't there another one in breaking Bad another chicken place that's in the

background somewhere?

Dan: I've

not actually seen

Sidey: Waffles or something

Cris: have the two hour

Dan: Well, I've

Sidey: the fake thing that you was then you've got big Kahuna Burger in

Pop fiction.

Yeah. Pop good Burger from Good Berg. Those

were,

Cris: that is fictional, right? The big Kahuna. I've never been

Sidey: I think so. I've never

Cris: never been to America, so I don't

Dan: I think Again, they

Sidey: might actually not be, you know, but it is certainly in a fiction film. And then what

about Pizza Planet

from Toy Story? It's where the aliens, the Claude's, where they they're first found in the

hand

grabby. arcade Machine.

Lexus Chicken and Waffles was the one that was in Breaking Bad. And Be Oil that [00:22:00] isn't Los Paula Hers. Yeah. So There you go.

Cris: Right. Okay. I've got a business which is, I would say it was more topical maybe a year ago, but, or maybe I, I don't remember when, but he's always in the news Mr. Zucker. Yeah. With the social network film. And he was played by Jesse

Eisenberg.

Yeah. Is that his actual name? Yeah.

Anyway, that I quite liked the movie. And I think when the movie came out, Facebook wasn't really a, a, a, a problem as much as it is today. And, and Zuckerberg wasn't necessarily that much under scrutiny as he is today because it's quite an old film. It's 2011. I think the

Dan: certainly, you know, he's gripped more with meta now,

Sidey: it was more about how much of an asshole he was.

To the

other

Cris: Yes. Or the, or the people

Sidey: to, less about what

like horrible effect that social media has on the world in general. This is more about him and what,

an

Cris: and how he kind of created

Sidey: he fucked those guys [00:23:00] over.

the, Is it the Finkle floss twins? Yes. And the

Napster guy.

or he is a scum.

Cris: yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: And, and I, I like the film.

Sidey: It's good. Yeah. Aaron Sorkin

Cris: and it's about a business by the end of the day, Facebook is a

Sidey: business Oh, he is worth a few Quid. Yeah.

I say they

tried to hire someone they were gonna pay him 150 million, I guess it is like a signing on fee. And the guy's like, nah, I don't really fancy it.

It's like, all right. I'm just doubled it. Okay.

Okay. It's Something

to do with ai, 'cause they're obviously far, far far behind in ai, world.

Dan: Right. Okay. Yeah. Well

Sidey: just bottomless pits of money,

Dan: money, I guess, to come because that's, you know, just scheduled to go up and up and up. An AI investment. Who was Justin Tr Snake was in that as well, wasn't he?

Sidey: He was the Napster guy.

Cris: Yes.

Yeah, he was

Dan: Did you ever watch the movie Joy

Sidey: Jerk Off Instructions?

Dan: No.

It's a biographical drama inspired by the life of joy Manano.

She invented The Miracle Mop. And

Sidey: that the one that you

Cris: have the mop at [00:24:00] work. No, the one that you don't need the squeezer, it squeezes itself,

Sidey: right?

Yeah. How much does she make?

Dan: Well, not that much. Originally Could they try to fuck her over a little bit. or there, there was

Sidey: Big, big mop. Big mop.

Dan: dis just dysfunctional corporate politics,

Cris: big business, big pharma of the mop

Sidey: she's the Big, mop, big mop industry. got

Dan: yeah, there was faulty manufacturing and and some patents.

But she, she did eventually obviously make it persistence and innovation and she had around about a hundred patents. She was really, really clever lady. And it's a decent movie, that joy.

Sidey: Okay.

What about actors slash directors

and

their actual real life businesses that they've created?

Dan: right Yeah.

Sidey: of the acting world? Obviously Ryan Reynolds is well known for this

Dan: one that my mind went to

Sidey: Because he has quite a few obviously

wreck him.

And he's got American aviation gin. He hosted Mint Mobile, which he invested in, then sold that I think nearly becoming a billionaire just outta that one. [00:25:00] Yeah. I'm

really

starting to, like I bought, I fell up seeing him in everything. He's like getting on my nerves and

Dan: taking over the world.

Sidey: think he might be a Dick as well. And also booze that tends to be quite a popular. One, he's got the gin Casamigos It's George Clooney's Tequila. Tequila.

I think The Rock has a tequila brand.

Oh yeah, he does.

It's called Teriana.

Cris: There's, there's tequila is the, for the

few

Sidey: people's tequila.

He calls That one.

Cris: There's quite a few of them that are invested in tequila though. It's, it's a clean spirit. Mexico is a, is a fertile ground

Sidey: for not Dan Aykroyd. He has

crystal head vodka, which is filtered through her,

kema, her kema diamonds, which sounds very extravagant.

and Pointless.

Yeah.

Laughing Man coffee. That's huge, Jack, man. And also vineyards

are quite popular. Yes. With These guys. Sam Neil. He has

a vineyard in New Zealand which makes award-winning Pinot noir. And of course Francis Ford Coppola. He has the Ingle Nook state which I think makes him very pleasant wines, [00:26:00] but it's no Danny Almo is it.

And the other one I thought of Seth Rogan we all know that he likes to enjoy a jazz cigarette from time to time. And he's built a brand around that called Houseplant, which

Dan: Snoop's into that as well.

Sidey: Yeah, he, is. Well, and Mike Tyson all that, but Seth Rogan's one is it's all about ceramics and poultry and like ashtrays and all this sort of stuff.

Boxes to get you matched in. It's all it like really funky. stuff I just don't smoke. So it doesn't interest me. but also I think they've got an Airbnb where you can stay at a gaff where it's all kitted out with his

stuff. Okay. And they

do vinyl releases about mix tapes to Right. To supplement your

Dan: I believe I read something about Trump deregulating recently like as in today. So I dunno whether that's gonna be good news for for Seth and, And

Sidey: But he also told all the homeless people

to leave

Washington, They've got

Cris: so. Yeah,

Sidey: somewhere else to go. I don't,

Cris: I don't, yeah.

Sidey: So, yeah, the, but so once you've made it as an actor, it's quite I think good.

They seem to like diversifying.

Cris: Well, it's also interesting with, especially the fact with George Tony, [00:27:00] because he was one of the first ones that in invested in the, in, in an existing tequila brand. Right. The idea with the Casamigos was what they've done is pretty much what most of CEL celebrities do.

They pick up a brand that already exists or someone pitches an idea to them. They attach their name

Sidey: to That's right.

Reynolds os

Cris: Josh Clooney. Josh Clooney owns 3% of Casamigos. He doesn't own the the brand, but because he's attached to it, he gets free stuff, free supply for the rest of his life. He does

Dan: free tequila. I mean, geez.

Cris: yeah, but also he does all these things,

Sidey: doing it solid for his mates to get

Cris: And he obviously with 3%, then he got, gets five, then he gets 10. But he associates his name with this thing and it's, it's a, a success driving business. Casamigos. I used to have it when I was working in this, in this hotel in Ekonos. We used to have it and we would get it for between 25 and 30 euros.

Now you can't get it for less than 60 quid.

Dan: I was

drinking Palomas the other night and they were,

Cris: yeah, it's nice. It's [00:28:00] grapefruit. Yeah, it's like a grapefruit

Sidey: They they also like to put themselves into the production side. So they'll set out their own production company business. George Clooney's got one, section eight.

Margot Robbie has done phenomenally well. I think her one produced the Barbie film, which has obviously

done a Bill.

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: she's doing okay. And they, Yeah. A lot of them go down that route as well,

Cris: which is, is clever business. I'm gonna change a little bit to the topic from Trump and all these actors to a slightly more happy world of narcotics and the narco series,

which, which they do, which they do.

Tell the story of businessmen only not legal businessmen. Both the Mexicans and the Colombians. There's also a series on El Chapo Guzman, which is, focuses on just his kind of rise to power or whatever, and the, and the slo cartel,

Sidey: So the, the family.

business,

Cris: Yes. But the, obviously the first one, the first Narco series focuses on Publi Coad and is got the anxiety guy that likes to touch women.

The Pedro

Sidey: Pedro Pascal.

Cris: so he is, got [00:29:00] him as a, I think he's a DA agent in Columbia. And it focuses on Pablo Escobar's Rise and Fall, and then the Cali Cartel, the Ochoa Brothers, and then the the downfall of them and the, the Narcos Mexico, which is, I, I really enjoyed both of them, and I think, if I'm not mistaken, the, especially the Narcos, Mexico, I watched second, and I think there's three seasons.

I watched the second and the third season, but I watched them when I was, when I couldn't see, so I kind of listened

Sidey: to it. Okay. Like an audio

Cris: but I didn't really see it. And I did like it because it was in Spanish, so I just heard a different language and stuff, so it's quite good. So I, I'm, I'm gonna take that as

Dan: it within the pictures of your mind.

Cris: Exactly.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. A couple of series that I, I watched, one was Silicon Valley. I dunno if you ever saw that. There was I think six or seven series of

Sidey: Was this many as that was it. Yeah.

Dan: Comedy American [00:30:00] thing. I quite liked it. It was called Pied Piper. They had some software that was gonna

be

the latest next greatest thing.

But there was some really good writing in that I really enjoyed. It It gave me a, a good short for a good few series. But the one that I'm probably gonna choose

Sidey: are you, numbing?

Dan: are you ing Well, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna norm now because I might, I might come around for, for something else. But it's called the Playlist.

And it's a limited series on Netflix. It is around the start of Spotify. And how

Sidey: Oh, I've seen that one.

Dan: How that went.

Sidey: People are, people and bands are leaving Spotify in droves, so they need to sort their, their business model out.

Dan: Yeah. But this was when things were, were shit and then went brilliant.

And it was I forget the guy's name. It was something like Eric or or Daniel Eck. Daniel Eck. There

Sidey: He's a piece of shit.

Dan: Yeah. I mean, most of these bus, and he was from the beginning. and It plays him as a piece of shit. Right. [00:31:00] But he knows his shit as well. He, he knows what was gonna sell. He, he made ads for,

Sidey: he said something along the lines of, 'cause they obviously they, they're like really famous for being shit at what they pay out to artists for their, and he, and he goes, well, you know, it doesn't cost them anything to fucking make it.

So, and you think, what the fuck? Like, yeah. And their model is that all the streams, so let's say there's a billion streams a day.

It just,

it just basically all goes to Ed Shean and the big, the big ones on there and it doesn't, there's no way. So I I've I've actually been looking to get off it 'cause I'm, I'm a paid member of that I was looking to I don't, don't,

Dan: looking to and Right.

Sidey: Don't fucking like it. And what they're now doing is they're actually do, using an AI to generate their own

just generic fucking shit music

that's not

created, No human like touchpoints in it at all. And then they don't have to pay out fucking anything for that. And so they can just churn the shit out and then they start pushing it into your discover playlist and you this week, blah, blah.

And you might not [00:32:00] necessarily know that you're listening to some fucking awful computer generated, fucking synthetic bullshit. Zero art in it up stuff. Cunt. Okay. So I'm out,

Dan: I'm out for that reason. I'm ot.

Sidey: But yeah, it's a good show. The show is good. Yeah.

Dan: a good show. I really enjoyed that, that series of, of starting up.

I've got another one actually. So, okay. Come around when you're ready.

Sidey: How about. some,

Dan: a fertile ground business,

Sidey: Yeah. 'cause really like almost could be anything. What about some from music bands, people? Mr. Kite Circus Circus. is kind of a band that's a, a fictional one from the Beatles Sergeant Pepper's album. God.

Joe's Garage, I think. Probably Garage. Joe's Garage. Frank Zapper. Right. Trying to, I'm just trying to, making a concerted effort to get into Frank Zapper. It's a tar up and concept album about a small time musician's, garage turn studio there's that I got fucking loads of these things and they're all.

Sort of fairly generic, but I've got my no to come, so I'll come back round

[00:33:00] for that.

Cris: Okay. I've got the business of restaurants. Yeah. Which is we've seen, we've seen the one, I can't remember the name of that, Nonnas.

Sidey: Yeah. yeah, yeah. We've

Cris: seen the, the Vince Vaughn one, which is, restaurants. Casino is the business of casinos and, and and all of that.

I

Sidey: watched a clip of it

this week where he, he sees the guy with his mate across the other table doing

the tap, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And counting cards, and then they just get him and

hold him down

and just fucking

smash his hand with

Cris: hammer. Yeah.

Sidey: So

brutal.

Cris: Well, yeah. There's also the, the business of I had something about the business of pros and there was a famous

one

Sidey: right. risky risky business.

Cris: Yeah. I know it was risky business, but No, there, there was some, there was something else connected that way. I just slipped my head now because I didn't write it down. And, and a again, it was one of them that he, I can't remember the film, but it was a

Sidey: well in, in the other

guys, that's one that made me think of it.

'cause Royal Farrell and Mark Wahlberg? Yeah. Gator turns out to have been a pimp back in college. So he [00:34:00] is now, he's like a super nerdy like forensic accountant for the police force, but back in the day he's supposed to

been a pimp.

It's just So ludicrous. It, some unreal. But

Cris: I've also got a film, which I, I, I'd rarely give credit to will Smith these days, but I do have to mention Pursuit of Happiness because it was a, it was a great film,

Sidey: I've not seen him it,

Cris: the fact that he stars in it and it's him and his son, like his actual son.

But the film itself is, is brilliant. So I have to give that a shout. And then I've got my

Dan: True story about a guy who can do a. Rubik's Cube,

Cris: Yeah. Well, not only that, he,

Dan: it's sort of bit

Cris: doing a

Dan: more than that.

I'm gonna make a second Norm. I'll put it in in size name because I'm sure he would've chose it if he had been here.

It's called Mad Unicorn. He is not seen it either though. It's on Netflix. It's a Thai film series. And I watched it recently, In the last few months. It's based on a true story of Thailand's first unicorn startup, like the billion,

Sidey: okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: [00:35:00] business. Flash Express, a courier, courier delivery company.

And it follows this, this young lad Santi as he's determined to, you know, succeed. And he's from a really, really poor part of, of Thailand. He gets fucked over loads on the way by people that aren't poor and already in big business and have money. But he's got such a, a determined way about him and it's, I say, based on a true story.

It was a eight or 10 part series on Netflix. Right. Really recommend it. Good one. Mad Unicorn.

Sidey: Okay. My Norm is gonna be the

Yo-Yo D Propulsion Systems Company. right? That is some sort of sci-fi in joke that somehow crops up in things that are completely unrelated.

So

we actually saw this,

In the Adventures of Buckaroo sai across the eighth dimension Do you remember that with Peter, where is it? The guy who plays Robocop? They, in

that they're a defense co contractor whose corporate officers [00:36:00] features aside The future begins tomorrow and it's a front

for a load

of aliens. It

then

it crops up in the star Trek as well. and They

make

control panels. In on the enterprise and and various other federation starships Worlds. And it's also the name of a client of the law firm, Wolfram and Hart. I dunno if you know. where That's from, it's from the spinoff from Buffy Vampire Slay series angel. And it features in the ninth episode of the fifth season

if you wanna

Dan: niche. Nice niche. Chris, have you got a nom For the, the wider

Cris: Yes. I've got a film. It's an animated American film called Food Fight. Exclamation mark. Right. And it is

The business of Supermarket that turns into market. Metropolis a city inhabited by well known brand icons.

Sidey: Yeah. Seth Rogan, isn't it?

Cris: Yeah. And Charlie Sheen. And it's, it is quite funny.

There's loads of Lawrence Kassoff [00:37:00] e Longoria. Hillary Duff, Christopher Lloyd. It's, yeah, there's quite a few of them. And, and again, cartoons and it, it is basically all these, and this is the

Sidey: loads of innuendos.

that

Cris: Yeah, it is, it is. The only, and I also liked it because I quite enjoy this, but it flopped like massively

Sidey: yeah, And I

thought they were still trying to do a sequel to It but

Cris: costs a lot of money to make as well. And it is almost made almost like a, the cartoons are more looking, the, the, the

Sidey: animation. is

Cris: Animation is more like video game rather than cartoonish, I dunno how to explain that better.

Sidey: generated

Cris: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: Okay. Well, should we should we circle off before we square up, or is that as done?

by?

Yeah,

Sidey: We've got, we're done.

You've put two in. So

we either need two

Dan: for buy one get one free, isn't it? It's a business. week. You

Cris: can go again if you want,

Sidey: Yeah. The loyalty reward.

So there we go. We need, one, possibly two business nominations

 

Sidey: this was the business.

Cris: was the business. This was the business. I'm, I'm [00:38:00] gonna say it, this was the business.

Sidey: Danny

Dyer. I think

our first,

venture into the world of Danny Dyer, isn't it? On the

pod?

Cris: I mean I've, I've, I've seen him before, obviously. Yeah,

Sidey: Yeah. But we've not spoken about him.

Cris: I've not seen this film before though.

Sidey: Okay. this is a 20 2005. It was

Okay.

Crime film.

Cris: On my 20th birthday, this guy came out to the film,

Sidey: Written and directed by Nick Love, and they have done. Collaborated on a few films, I think marching powder most recently. Okay. And, he and Nick Love did all the football factory.

Cris: yeah.

Sidey: of shit. So it really has

a, a kind of a preferred type that he does.

Dan: Gritty British sort of working class films.

Sidey: films. Does it? Yeah. This one starts with a kind of flash forward, like present day almost to the two of them. It's Danny Dyer. Yeah. And Tamma Hassan Tam Hassan's character's.

Cris: Playboy.

Sidey: Charlie. The Playboy as he's

Introduced

to us. And Frank, the boy Frankie. And at this point when we see them in they just on hard [00:39:00] times just doing like shitty

Yeah. armed robberies, Just going into like drug dens and

Dan: it's, It's almost like a a good hour into the film when you see this scene come up. Again it's

Cris: to paid in Full where we, we get the, the thing initially and then it, it's not at the end where they show you like full circle.

Sidey: hear

the kind of language that is gonna set us up for what the rest of the content, the film is gonna be. like, fuck off you fucking Spanish cu

Dan: cans?

Sidey: like that for a lot of the

Cris: a few racial slurs as

Sidey: Yeah,

it is. They, they're giving these guys a hard time. It's simply some sort of cracked down when they're just trying to steal whatever drugs the guys in this particular place have got.

He smashes up the guy's stereo, which I thought was

unnecessary.

Cris: beats the girl up

Sidey: well. Yeah. the, the treatment of women, this film is

questionable.

And then we're gonna flash back now to the origin, the, the. The initial bit of when

because they're in Spain here. And this, we go back to this dreary gray council estate

is council Pham by a block

of Flats in Peckham.

And Danny dies, character. Frankie's looking up and he [00:40:00] sees a, a jumbo going across the sky and he's like, need to

Dan: Liz yeah,

Sidey: I need to get out of here. You know, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be someone. He goes home and his mother's getting knocked about by some absolute scumbag. Really giving her fucking the right hiding Yeah. He Tries to step in and the guy whacks him, gives him a bloody lip, and he says to, I'm gonna be someone, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make, it, I'm gonna be someone.

He's like, fuck off

and gives him another punch. And as Danny die leaves the flat, you can just see his mom getting a fucking absolute

patient. Yeah, he,

I think I, did she die?

Cris: I No,

I, I don't think so. I think she gets hit and he, the, the guy is like, gimme the money or whatever, and he,

Sidey: he just embarrass me and all this sort

Cris: see behind the curtain that he goes in with a, with a piece of wood or something and just bats the guy and,

Dan: yeah.

And then next. Thing he's going to see one of the local heavies, and he's obviously a bit nervous. He's done this guy in and he might have been a bit too

Cris: too much.

Dan: too much. too much. And he's looking for a, an escape plan. He goes, look, I know a place. Why aren't you fancy some sunshine? [00:41:00] Just take this bag down to

Sidey: just stay down there. Keep your head down

Dan: meet

Cris: to

meet the playboy. Yeah,

Dan: to meet a guy. And He goes, yeah, O okay, what's in the bag? Biscuits.

Sidey: But the way he says it, it's really weird. He goes, but I've got, I've gotta know what's in the bag. Yeah. And it sounds like so placed. I thought the, the, the wording and he says, it just says biscuits. And he's like, okay.

And so he then next thing we see it, airplane boom down Dale crime. It's lovely. Now it's all sunny. It's all fucking neon and white and everything's like dead bright. And he finds Charlie's Bar

goes

in there and he sort of looks in and the song's. playing. Oh, no. And Playboy's just leaning on the bar and he sort of duck in a way. And he is like clocks him and he like gets this, this woman just emerges from under the counter and he's like, fuck off you. And

Cris: zips his pants and starts talking to

Sidey: and he is been getting osh And he sees meets Frankie and says, oh, you got my bag for me. And didn't look in it, did you? No. And so he is like, takes his word for it.

He's dead happy. He can, this is someone he can trust 'cause he is not looked at what's in there. And so from then [00:42:00] on they're like thicker thieves. these two.

Dan: Yeah, that's right. They hit it off pretty soon. He gives him a, a wedge of money. Gives him a job.

Sidey: He says, come, on you drive me. And they go for little cruise round, don't they? And they?

they get introduced to all the different characters.

Dan: This is it. He's Oh, you're coming in? They're all sort of larger than life cottony characters. We

Sidey: they, we've been explained that they're the Peckham, they're, he's part of the Peckham four. Yeah. Which were these guys that were just doing armed robberies, but noisy and little bit violent, but just Nick, no. Playing it down, but stealing stuff.

but

not,

Dan: killing armed robbery. But weren't shooting.

Sidey: goes a bit fucking haywire. Blows someone away. Yeah. And They've had to, they've had to leg it over and, and this is now where they, they're staying. And he's, it's a bit like

Goodfellows. This is, this is it can't get, he can't remember the names 'cause they all sound the same, don't they?

This is

this is what they

Dan: one of is called Ron, The,

Sidey: is Ronnie. He's Danny's mate. He's Mickey's mate with a thing. And he is like, oh, what the fucking

Dan: Yeah, Straightaway he goes, Ron, he goes, no, I'm not Ron, he's Ron. Yeah. And they're in a nightclub. He's being introduced [00:43:00] out a young Danny Dyer looking pretty pretty cool.

He's got some money in his pocket. He goes to kit himself out in a load of feeler.

Sidey: He says, get yourself some evening wear

get some tennis shorts and a T-shirt.

Dan: Yeah, And

Cris: looks like Boris

Sidey: when he said, He goes, you are about to step out and Fucking cent a court.

Dan: But there's the, the, the young girl of the house she seems to have the eyes for, him. and that's, charlie's girlfriend who we yet to meet. And a little bit later on after a night out.

Cris: Yeah. Because he is out in Gibraltar. Right. Charlie

Dan: doing some business. And when we do eventually meet Charlie after a couple of nights out in the town and things are going really well and he is thinking, this is great Sunshine girls, you know

what's, what's not

Sidey: Well, there's a, there's a rival firm that turns up at the bar first The Dutch. And they sort of scare him away. And they think he then he is like, well, we need to go and get,

Dan: tooled

Sidey: Get, Get, Sammy. So they go, and we were introduced to him, g glassing away to a restaurant,

[00:44:00] Effing seas and all this.

And he swims over to the boat they pick him up on and he tried to

Dan: brutally. gl

Sidey: he glassed him 'cause he tried to serve him.

So he says something in a day play or day glass. And so this guy, and I have to say, this guy is the super fucking intimidating dude. He plays it very well. Really good actor.

Scary

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: Is, you know, he is like, Tommy and good. he will just fucking

kill you. if you don't get

Cris: funny that, because I, I've not seen this before, but I've watched this now and I watch Moland and in Moland,

he's the, he's the, the Pierce Brosnan's arch enemy right in, in Moland. And he is scary, but like dark scary.

Yeah.

Sidey: And in this, he's got his misses who is just a like appalling, flirt and just looking to get people in trouble. Yeah. Because they know if they even fucking look at her, Sammy's gonna fucking, Yeah. He's gonna be displeased, just say the least. So we've now got the whole crew together and they go and they, they deal with this Dutch lot. But the thing about it at this point is because [00:45:00] they, the narrator is Danny Dies character Frankie, and he's saying stuff like, oh, my old man said this. All there is in life is crime. Birds and fucking drugs

Cris: stay away from women

Dan: he is in

Sidey: Well, I is that, and he is giving it the big one on the voiceover, the narration he is playing to making out that he's like super into it and all that.

But quite a lot of the times when we actually see him do stuff, he's shitting himself. so that when they have the, the, they the big coming together with the Dutch firm outside the nightclub, they'll, they'll shooting the the Dutch light and he just shoots in the other direction. Just so it, Yeah. Just So

he can prove that he shot the gun.

Dan: He he's gone home at one point

Sidey: no intention of killing anyone.

Dan: Because he's, he's had to

Sidey: not a bit of me.

Dan: he, No, well, he is had to wear a a bulletproof vest. And they've gone to, to try them out. These

Cris: Bulletproofs this is amazing to see. They just try it on himself.

Dan: Charlie has, has said to Sammy, try it on me, then where should I stand?

And he's, he's a good fucking, you know, 20 meters away. And you are relying on Sammy's good shot [00:46:00]

Sidey: not the face.

Cris: not shot you in the head

Dan: like to, and he shoots oh, bloody hell. And he goes, try me with a shotgun. And you're like, you bloody serious. Like, and

Sidey: he doesn't like, let just say from the get go.

Sammy doesn't like that being outside. He doesn't like a new person. He fucking doesn't like Frankie So this bit, he then he walks over and he just point blanks him with

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: with the

Cris: like, you wear, you wear the bulletproof

Sidey: He's shitting himself. Yeah.

Dan: he slowly puts it on and, and afterwards you see him in the mirror and he's got this big bruise on him and he goes, Charlie.

it is just not me.

Sidey: it's not a bit of me

Dan: as, he, as he's gone home back to the airport and he's looking at everybody and there's some rero and running around the union Jacks and everything, he realizes, hell, there's not much for me left back home. And What else is there, you know, for for him? So that's when he, he sort of

Sidey: he turns out back of the nightclub giving it the clock of the, water

Dan: And has it out.

Cris: you see them all sitting on the sofa and he just sits in his right [00:47:00] place right next to Charlie and he just kind of

Dan: and he, he then starts doing the, the drug runs which are pretty. you know, The strait that Gibraltar is eight miles away and he sends these Moroccan kids over some of them get shot.

And he's like, he's not pretty, but they're loading up the drugs.

Cris: Yeah. That's when they do the montage and he talks over and he is like, in the month of Ramadan we lose a lot of money until we go through the

Sidey: Yeah, yeah.

Cris: it's like, it's, it's not, this is not nice people you're dealing with here.

These are,

Sidey: they've,

they've got an arrangement with the mayor that as long as it's just hashish that they're smuggling across

Cris: he says straight away,

Sidey: turn a blind eye to that, but he says, no cocaine, nothing else. Otherwise we've got a problem. And he does And the say the thing about drugs is you get

fucking greedy. Yeah.

So,

Dan: and 'cause they were doing a lot of, you know, you would've thought again, yeah, it's greed because they were doing a lot of money, but obviously there's more money in

Sidey: cocaine. Well, we see the gaff where they live, you know, the,

Cris: it just kind of

gets up and up. They, you can see them moving in.

I want that to be British. I want that marble. I want that to [00:48:00] be this. It's like, alright mate.

And then the, the,

Sidey: thing that, the, thing that, the thing

Cris: that splits them is when Sammy tries to plant

Charlie's watch into Frankie's

Sidey: It doesn't like how close they've got. It doesn't like that. He's getting all the attention, so Yeah, he, we see it's actually when they run out of, they're doing Sunday roast at the at the bar. They run outta lamb, and they go and shoot a sheep

Cris: in the middle of like a farm. It's is. They just shoot it.

Sidey: Charlie's chopping it up and he takes, we see him take his Rolex off and put it down to the side. And then, yeah, Sammy just clocks that I'll plant this. And, and but straight away doesn't, actually we don't get along.

Protracted thing with this, he's caught red-handed straight away. And that's where it all starts to go. Pete to, and have big Falling out.

He, he, Sammy says, or you gonna, like, I've known you all my life. This can't only been here for five minutes. You gonna, I, he goes like, he goes, I'm just gonna. Can't we just wash our mouth, you know, wipe our mouth and move.

on? He says, no, not this time. Yeah I'm gonna do my own thing for a bit. And you're out basically

but

ballsy move 'cause he's a fucking scary

Dan: [00:49:00] Yeah. And, and sort of Ron's out as well at one point. So the, this Peck and four that used to be together he's saying, look, no, you were getting paid for a job.

You're not fucking a partner. And they all starts being a little more fractious and but Frankie and and Charlie are, you know, they, they do like each other

Cris: and they do go on the cocaine route.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: If they've gotta deal with some Colombians and

it

effectively

Dan: kid is,

Sidey: they're doing just like

like, Like you

see the aid drops and fucking when refugee sites, they're just dropping parachuted blocks of cocaine down into the sort of

Cris: And it does narrate to say, when we, when they would get caught by the Coast Guard with, with a hash or with a weed. You could kind of slip

Sidey: one or two

Cris: and lose one packet is fine with this one.

You can't afford losing it. No. This is high value merchandise. And then it tells about the story, how it gets back to London or, or the UK and how they sell it. [00:50:00] And UK is white and it's all Margaret Thatcher. Oh, they're all on it. They're all getting high, you know,

Sidey: they, they

get caught doing a job and they abort it.

So They're not quite caught red-handed, but the man knows exactly what's going on. He's there with his cronies. Yeah. And he invites them. They, there's nothing there. So they, he can't properly kiss him, he says, right, I'll invite you to dinner so we can have a proper chat. And they come up with this plan of getting one of Frankie's mates who's a heron addict over because the mayor they know has got a thing for young boys.

So they're like, right, if we can, we can stitch him up, get get him, over to suck his dick or whatever. And then when this guy turns up, he's clean, he's kicked the habit and they're like, oh no.

Well, what, maybe if we just get him drunk enough, we can get him to suck the mayor's dick and

it just doesn't work. The,

Cris: and he stabs him with a fork

Sidey: mayor, I think, gets, starts to take his drowns off and he stabs him with the for like you say so now the mayor's got the right fucking ask and you're definitely not doing that shit on my patch. That is a big no-no. Yeah. That is shut down. He brings in a load of [00:51:00] armed,

like militia basically To patrol the area. So they,

Dan: they don't know this,

Sidey: they? they're gonna meet, they

Frankie the boy Frankie's having a, a lie down in the pool and what's the name of the girl?

Mrs. Harvey

Cris: Yeah,

the Georgina of

Sidey: Georgina Chapman. Georgina Chapman. Carly. She just turns up unannounced.

Cris: But Charlie, Frankie, Carly, they all kind of sound the same. It's just,

Sidey: Yeah. She turns up and they fuck he thinks that they've, that she's been given the eye, but really she's just. Fucking trouble.

And she has been warned that the first time he sees her Tam, Amazon said.

Cris: Charlie said, yeah. He's like, whatever you do, don't even think.

Sidey: mischief. So they fuck

and he thinks that they've got

something,

Cris: but

she keeps going like, oh, what are you doing tonight? You gonna see

Sidey: No, stay, stay. He is like, no, I can't.

I've gotta go. up. We've gotta meet these fucking Colombians. She's like, oh, right. Well, whatcha doing after? And when they go to the meeting, sure. enough, like, Sammy and the other two are there. And

Cris: Charlie's

Sidey: Charlie's like, Charlie's

like, how the fuck do they know? And you're like, oh

Cris: yeah,

Sidey: he fucked it

now. And

Cris: And they see her in the car as she [00:52:00] drove off,

Sidey: off.

So Sammy Sammy sort of puts himself back into the frame now with with the Columbias, and they decide they need to sort out the mayor,

Cris: which is the, out of any idea, that's the worst idea you could have. I will kill the mayor.

Sidey: I was thinking, just move further down the coast. Like just go to some other town like you just don't need to fuck around like this.

Especially when they go down there, I, think they're all ballsy 'cause they're.

They're into deep. And so they get toured up. Sammy's got a fucking shitload of

Cris: and by this point they're on the gear.

Sidey: Yeah. So they're not

Cris: Charlie and Frankie, they're straight, like all the time. They, you can just see them white on the nose

Dan: their own

Sidey: into the mares. They, well they, they do basically dip dog shit, that sort of thing.

Yeah. They

And, and Ronnie, Ronnie's the one who loses and

he is like, he's fucking racing. Like this is bollocks. And he,

sent me the, the wires to go through the gate and do a bit of recon or wherever it is to see what's going on and he is poking around it doesn't come back.

So they go

sort of down there, to see what's going

Dan: on a stick

Sidey: and they, where you just see them look at [00:53:00] something and you see um, Frankie recoiling like, oh my God. And Ronnie's best mate, the other one of the Peck and four they have to grab him and put the hand over his mouth before he screams out.

'cause he decapitated head is just.

on a, fucking pike there for As a warning. Like you fuck off basically. Or speed. the lottery of you. And then now we go back to seeing the two guys. Now this, the further on, like this whole, the whole arrangement. of The climbings is obviously off. They're now just fucking down and out junkies. just doing like Shitty armed

Dan: which is where they come into the first scene. Yes. Yeah,

Sidey: start. Yeah. And Danny Dyer now looks at the fucking state.

He's,

Cris: they both do, they unshaved unwashed, just,

Dan: a long

Cris: they live in the sun and they look like they got hepatitis. They look like they never seen the sun and they look in south of Spain.

Sidey: It turns out that the guy that they'd brought over to try and stitch the mirror up the former, that they now clean heroin of it, he's taken over. Sammy's bar.

Dan: Sonny's Bar now,

Sidey: isn't

Charlie Charlie's

bar, I should say Sonny's. Yeah. yeah. Sonny's [00:54:00] bar. And he still thinks that Charlie thinks they can get back to what they were.

They just, it just, we just need to get a grand and, he arranges for them to have a reunion night in the club. And

Danny Dial's, like, who are we gonna tell? He's like, fucking everyone. So they get all geared up, you know their best

club role. We see him doing his hair and they're look at each check and like, Yeah, you look great, you look great.

And then we cut to the parties. like Two people there. yeahinteresting embarrassment. and see they, they've got no fucking clue.

Dan: Their pulling power is gone,

Sidey: but Charlie's still laying on thick, their relationship deteriorated and he is just trying to get Frankie to do stuff that he doesn't want to do. And oh, there's these Algerians we can go and meet in

Kddi and.

Force

him to do these other, other deals And,

Cris: Well, that, that's quite important, the, the meeting in Kade, because first of all, he's like, you need to go in Kade and meet these Algerians. Here's some money. And you buy some gear from them. He's like, KDDI, what the fuck is Kade? I don't even wanna, the fuck is Kade?

And then he goes there and you can hear him on the telephone [00:55:00] saying, I'm gonna wear a blue tracksuit, goes to the bar and some other guy in a blue tracksuit gets whistled by these guys.

and gets killed. Cutthroat. Like he,

Sidey: slit his throat Yeah,

Cris: throat and Danny Dyer kind of goes after them to see, oh well they went for me.

And then he sees them running and he sees the guys with a slit throat and he's like, mate, what are you doing? You are trying to get a party together.

Sidey: I nearly, he got killed.

Cris: I knew I went to Kdi to meet these Algerians and I knew he got killed, what's going on? And he, ah, nah, it's all right. It's fine. You know, just

Sidey: yeah. so he decides Frankie at this point, that he needs to get out?

Yeah. And he's decides also that he's not gonna get out with nothing. He is got one last play.

Which is

we

see him go and meet Carly again

Cris: with the balloons.

Sidey: Got the

balloons for the, for the party. that it is actually, it actually happens before the party, doesn't It He goes with the balloons to meet Carly and she, they snog.

So

she's still playing him obviously, but he's stupid enough to think there might be something in it. And she writes the message on the blue, we [00:56:00] don't see what it is. She bursts the balloon and hands it to him and he is, he is like, well confused. She says, just fucking read it. And then we see him put the, he is sort of enacting is the plan, which is to get Stitch Sammy up.

So he knocks on Sammy's door. Someone order a cunt. 'cause one's just,

turned. up.

Cris: he does, he does call before and, and says, which we find out to Carly later. Make sure there's no bullets in the gun when you, you know, so, so they do make a plan.

Dan: Yeah. And she gives Sammy a gun who's gonna go and do one last drug run.

Yeah. With Frankie they go into this like sewage outlet. Yeah. That's pumping into the sea. And that's where the drugs are gonna come through. They're gonna be dropped through there, and they're both w retching as they get down to the bottom of

Cris: this. That was, it nearly made me sick and it was and,

Dan: and Danny Dies, picked up a rock.

Sammy's got a gun in his shorts. So they're both about to fuck on each other. The gun [00:57:00] is pulled and the trigger's

Cris: and yeah.

Dan: But it doesn't go off. She's, Stuck to the, the plan and not loaded the gun and he's got this rock and he, he hits him around the head with it two or three times.

And just at that time, the, a police,

Cris: yeah, the, the

Sidey: I think he was still probably

gonna lose that fight even after he dragged

Dan: Yeah. Well, this, it, he is had three big cracks in the head with a rock and, and Sammy's still up for a fight. And, the, the Coast Guards turned. up And he turns to, with the gun to him as Danny Dyer

Sidey: It goes full shohan, doesn't it? he climbs through the shit

Dan: it. He,

he goes up the pipe. up the

Cris: This I could, I couldn't. Whoever rode this at the end,

he washes

him. He still got shit on

Sidey: his yeah, you could say it was up his nostril, like,

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: then no, but she washes, kind of washes him

Sidey: in the house. It's pristine in the car.

Cris: and then, and then not only that, she actually snags him. I'm like, mate, no one even comes close to you if you crawl through shit to get

out.

Dan: his

Sidey: Anyway. Sammy had pulled the

Sammy [00:58:00] didn't. Drop the gun when the Coast Guard arrived. They fucking machine gunned him

down.

Cris: Yeah, yeah. He's

Sidey: dead.

He's dead. Yeah.

Dan: Which is the only way Sami was.

Sidey: so we're getting like, almost set up for a fairytale ending where he is gonna get the girl, get the money

They got a big package of drugs as well, which She can

sell for cash and drive off. And he said he narrates it. He says 'cause she got, she's not in the car yet and he just looks in the bag and she's got

a gun alone. and

she's about money.

Yeah. She's gonna stitch him up.

And so he he points the gun at her and says, listen, fuck off. Basically calls her out on it and she says, you better shoot me, because otherwise you know, you're just gonna see me again.

So,

And he fucking knocks her out. Yeah, he

knocks

Dan: out, dumps her out the car dries

Cris: know I won't

Sidey: We just see her like

unconscious on the road as he drives off into the sunset

in the,

Dan: and he, he,

he, goes away with that. He, he says you know, actually, I, I got out and I won. I got some money.

I

Cris: There's a, there's another reference to his dad's letter right from prison where he is like, my dad as, as he said, he stay away from women drugs and money, [00:59:00] and all I could do is get involved with it and came on the other side or something like

Dan: Yeah. And loved it. And

Sidey: there's a couple

of distills of the, the,

the main four people in the cast and what they're up to now.

That's right. Is in Hollywood, I

Dan: Frankie

Cris: Well, yeah.

Sidey: gone to Hollywood.

Cris: It goes like, Carly went back to her mom's flat in Peckham. The Charlie goes to work for Jimmy's at the bar as a doorman. Yeah. And he and Frankie goes to Hollywood. Yeah. Sammy goes to hell and

Sidey: gone to

Dan: that's it. And then we go into the, into the credits.

It's a 90 minute film. It's the Costa de crime, it's full of You can, and

Cris: oh, the lingo is proper

Dan: Yeah. But you know, I quite enjoyed it. It was,

Sidey: there's

loads of things wrong with it really, if you look at it like, it's not

like the

acting.

I think it actually is actually Okay. The portrayal of women in it is like fucking absolutely awful.

Really? They're either just bimbos or plot devices or bits of fluff. [01:00:00] It definitely, I think Nick Love definitely loves all this violence and glamorizes all this sort of. Lifestyle.

Dan: but it's definitely that kind of element within

Sidey: But still really, I still really like this film. It's probably

Cris: just where he comes from. Right. And that's the, the, the British kind of vibe I guess

Sidey: think he just

Dan: the

Sidey: was part of it,

Dan: the eighties.

in, you know, there's definitely that element of people that went down to Spain and larger than life gangsters, the cost of Dell crime, it got that reputation for

Sidey: the eighties period detail is

fucking bang

Cris: on. Oh my God. The outfits and the hair is,

Sidey: so good. bang on. And The soundtrack is great. Yeah. Carly is, or was.

Mrs. Harvey Weinstein Does that, does that mean she's a wrong by implication.

I

Cris: Yeah, there has, you can't, you can't be associated with that guy

Sidey: because when you see photos of the two of them together, you know, like as a couple, I

Cris: it's the beauty and the beast.

Sidey: What the fuck's going on. It's the beauty of the beast. It's not the ultimate casting couch, isn't

Cris: he's not, that guy's never been a handsome man.

There's, there's, that's a power play. And I dunno, whatever. Look, he could have been a [01:01:00] charming man. I, I don't really

Dan: But he wasn't

Cris: But he definitely wasn't she

Sidey: some mega babe in this, Yeah. yeah, really,

Cris: really pretty. Danny Dyer's nice and slim and, and full set of hair and quite

Dan: good performance. I like Danny

Sidey: We should talk a bit more about Danny Dyer because obviously like he's had sort of this stage of his career where he is like, like, I think really leaning into, I just, I still don't know if that's all genuine, like how much of a co accent he puts on, but

Cris: that's how he speaks though.

Sidey: Yeah, I know, but is it, is it real?

Maybe? I hope so.

But then, you know, and he was sort of like a, like a parody figure, like a figure, oh, dang, I fucking useless. And then like, he's done. All that sort of football.

He did all the documentaries about The who goes, all that sort of Stuff. And then he is gone on to do like East Enders, which quite respected, you know, it's it's a soap, but he's good in it.

and nominated stuff. And now he's doing like proper Broadway stuff. Harold Pinter. Yeah. Acting. And,

Dan: I think he's, he's genuinely seen as a working class actor Yeah. [01:02:00] Who can, can relate to the, the masses of his class, you know? And,

Sidey: and he said he's a real father figure for him. Pinner was, is and he, and he, and he knew, he, he had a problem 'cause he, he did have a drug problem.

Yeah. And now he's clean, he's gone through all, but he was doing shows and they would finish and he said you just have this mad buzz when you finish. You've just done a show, you know, it'd been amazing. I never thought I could do all this sort of stuff. Now he is. And he would then get on the crack pipe and he'd be out till God knows when, and then he'd come round for the next day.

And he said he'd just had a day performance where it all went fucking wrong, forgot his lines, and knew he'd let everyone down. And then people were like, listen, you're a fucking idiot. You're, Yeah. you're gonna fuck it all up. And he got clean and he's sorting himself out. So I think, you know, got a lot of time for him.

Actually. I do,

Dan: I, do, I I think

Sidey: even though he is a fucking,

Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

he's he's west down for, and through West

Cris: he's Westham, but do you know what I'm, I'm not even British, so, so I dunno. I might have a different point of view. This is a guy that, for me as an [01:03:00] actor and I, I've watched the football thing because that thing is still quite popular in Romanian, Serbian, Croatian, Russian, all this Italian culture, the, the Ultra and the Hooliganism and all that, they, they still exist in, in, in Europe and stuff.

And to be, he's an also an actor that can actually act, but he's also just a, the, the way he speaks, and I've seen him speak about football and his misses, his daughter dates the captain of West Ham or whatever. He's

Sidey: just he must

be buzzing about that.

Cris: he's

just Yeah. But that's what he, that's what he is. He's just a bloke

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: that, just relates to you and me because we're all just going to work and coming home and we all like to have a beer.

We have all been on nights out, we've all been around people like that. Not necessarily did the things he did, but. We've been

Dan: no, there's, there's no, there's no airs and graces about him. I mean, he played moth in human traffic 1999, which was his, his breakthrough

Sidey: Yeah.

Yeah. It's brilliant that, And

Dan: And he was,

Sidey: isn't I?

Dan: he he really was, you [01:04:00] know, sort of 17, 18 years old. And I remember that, you know, they've been on this huge all nighter or all weekender, and they've done it again. They've done it again. And, you know, he's really questioning his life there. And he's going, I I can't do you know, and they're going, you know,

I

can't, I, no, it's just, it's just too much though. They've been out on the pills and, and the

Sidey: drugs.

He's trying to get his numbers up, Don't

Dan: you know, and he's like, he can't do, yeah. He's, that's it. He's, there's all kinds of scenes where he's, you can see he's just, he's on a downward slope.

Like, You know, he's, it is becoming really, and they're sat in the pub afterwards and

and He saying, look, do it. I'm getting the shakes. I'm, you know, going. and his mates think he's joking first of all, and then they realize he's serious and they go, well, good times start outweigh the Yeah. The fun stop. Stop. If they're good start times get outweighed by the bad times. You you know, you've gotta stop. And he goes, yeah, do you wanna drink? I have a pin whiskey.[01:05:00]

And

Sidey: He also has like

one of the most legendary like live moments on TV when there were, he was on a panel I think it's was it good morning? I don't know what the fuck the name thing is, but it's P Morgan.

Yeah. And what's his name then Jeremy Corman's on there's various political people and they're talking at Brexit and he's there as well and he's like raging around. He's like, David Cameron, it's all his fault. Like, where, where is the Giza?

He's going, where is it?

Cris: I remember that.

Sidey: He's in Cannes with his trotters up

and he see Jeremy

Corman's to laugh about it And they go, oh. and it sort of, sort of fades where they like get him to like. Calm down, and then they move on something and he goes. TWA, just so loud.

Dan: Yeah. and it, it captured, you know what a lot of people were thinking around at the time as well. And he has that ability to,

Sidey: he needs to

be held account

he said, And

really

Dan: he is just saying what everybody's thinking and he's got a way of cutting through the bullshit that and you know,

Cris: I, I actually remember that.

Yeah. [01:06:00]

Dan: and hit the nail on the head a few times. So, Yeah. Becoming a bit of a national treasure, I think overall, but this was one of his, obviously his earlier films

earlier

Cris: there's, this film is full of actors that we've all seen in really good stuff along the years. Like full, full Bri It is almost like a British who's who really.

And in terms of Tamal Hassan, he's been in so many films and, and good films and he's

Dan: good in this.

Cris: he is really good and really quite, yeah, from up and down. And he, he plays it really well both ways. Jeff Bell really good throughout the years and, and quite in the same, like proper, just angry and ginger

Dan: perm.

Sidey: Yeah.

yeah, yeah. Don't

cheek Him

Dan: No.

so strong recommend, You know, that you can actually watch this free on YouTube as well. They've got the full

Sidey: can. You ready?

Cris: Oh, you can? Okay. I didn't know that.

Dan: There you go. Check it out.

Sidey: Right. It was due to be re's nominations this week, but he's not here, so I think he's gonna defer to next week.

So we'll find out.

Okay. What that, what that is gonna be.

All that remains for now is to say society signing [01:07:00] out,

Dan: Dan's gone.