Jan. 9, 2026

Wake Up Dead Man

Wake Up Dead Man

Benoit Blanc is back — but not in the way you might expect. In this episode, we dig into Wake Up Dead Man, the third entry in Rian Johnson’s Knives Out series, and quickly realise this isn’t just another playful, sun-drenched whodunnit. The tone is darker, stranger, and far more morbid than Knives Out or Glass Onion, leaning hard into religious imagery, guilt, confession, and moral rot. Set around a remote church and a fire-and-brimstone priest, the film opens with what looks like an impossib...

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Benoit Blanc is back — but not in the way you might expect.

In this episode, we dig into Wake Up Dead Man, the third entry in Rian Johnson’s Knives Out series, and quickly realise this isn’t just another playful, sun-drenched whodunnit. The tone is darker, stranger, and far more morbid than Knives Out or Glass Onion, leaning hard into religious imagery, guilt, confession, and moral rot.

Set around a remote church and a fire-and-brimstone priest, the film opens with what looks like an impossible murder: a man stabbed in a sealed room, in full view of his congregation. From there, Blanc circles a tight group of suspects — each with motive, history, and secrets — as the film toys with classic murder-mystery rules… and then quietly breaks a few of them.

What we talk about in the episode:

  • The tonal shift — why this feels closer to gothic noir than cosy Agatha Christie
  • Religion, confession, and judgment as thematic engines, not just window dressing
  • Whether the mystery is too Scooby-Doo or intentionally rejecting “fair-play” sleuthing
  • A stacked cast and who actually makes an impact (and who doesn’t)
  • Daniel Craig’s Benoit Blanc: more observer than solver this time — for better or worse
  • The film’s final act, revelations, and why it left us oddly unsatisfied despite clever ideas
  • How it stacks up against Knives Out (still the gold standard) and Glass Onion (the loudest sibling)

We also get into a broader debate about modern murder mysteries, Netflix’s influence on structure and pacing, and whether this series is drifting away from the thing that made it work in the first place: watching a brilliant detective actually do the detecting.

If you like your whodunnits bleak, talky, and a little unholy — or if you just want to hear us wrestle with a film that’s clever, flawed, and deliberately frustrating — this one’s for you.

🎧 Listen to the full episode for the deep dive, the disagreements, and our verdict on whether Wake Up Dead Man is a bold evolution… or a mystery that forgets to be fun.

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Dead Man Knives OutDan: It's minus five degrees in here today, isn't it?Sidey: It's chilly.Cris: It doesn't feel to me, but I've got thisSidey: got your big fleece on. Yeah.Dan: I can still see my breath.Cris: I'm a polar bear now.Dan: Yeah. I've got my hands inSidey: my, you're doped up anyway on painkillers. Dan: Yeah. You can'tCris: I still, I'm still in pain now.I can still feel the pain through the painkillers.Dan: Yeah. So tell me they got the wrong tooth. And then what happened? You were walking home when youCris: was walking home, I was in agony, and then I went to the pharmacy to get some painkillers. Obviously, they couldn't give me the heavySidey: stuff. The proper stuff.Cris: because I don't have a prescription.The guy was like, look, I'll give you these. But luckilySidey: someCris: I was clever. And when I was in hospital with my eyes, I kept the heaviest stuff that they gave me and he was the one that they warned me and they're like, look, don't take this. For more than two days. He's like, this is proper heavy stuff. And I still had it.Dan: right.Cris: For this reason. I kept it. I was like, look, I'm not gonna, I gave allSidey: one day,Dan: one day, one day I'mCris: No, but I [00:01:00] gave all the other medication that they gave me all, all the steroid medication, everything else. I gave it back to hospital when I, when I didn't need to take it. But then this one, I was like, you know, I'm gonna keep it because you never knowDan: one was it Tramadol?Cris: No, it's oxycodone.so it's Dan: It's oxy Cris: smack,smack. And so I took that and then, because I was in so much pain, I didn't eat all day on Saturday. So when I got home I had a bit of bread with some butter, but it was just soft bread. It was like a,I dunno, Sidey: a loaf of bread. Yeah,Cris: yeah, it was soft bread.It wasn't with a crustSidey: baguette or anything. Yeah,Cris: No. And honestly, as I was chewing it, I could feel the tooth just cracked. The one next to the one that they did the work on. But because I was in with painkillers, I didn't really feel pain. I just feltDan: the tooth crackedCris: there's something wrong.Sidey: just get straight a flight to Turkey mate and get it done.Cris: Well, that's what I'm doing, but I, I, I'm just waiting for them to gimme the x-ray. 'cause they had it on the thing and they said they're gonna send it [00:02:00] to me tomorrow. Then I've got all the clinics, everything in Turkey done. Just to send them the x-ray, send them what I need and what I would want and to say how much is it gonna cost?What materials are you gonna Sidey: just send 'em a picture of Ryland? Cris: No.I'm not doing Dan: Probably for Menino.Sidey: Tombstones.Dan: so, but.So you went, you went, you went. 'cause I saw you Saturday morning that you in, you had toothache, you went to the dentist.They worked on the wrong tooth because it is kind of difficult for them, even with the test. I mean, I, I'veCris: done the x-ray and they still weren't Dan: they weren't sure. Right. But this, did you go back there then after your tooth is cracked?No, Cris: because it was Saturday afternoon in Jersey, youDan: you get back?Cris: this morning?Dan: Fucking hell. So how was Sunday?Cris: I was in heaven.Dan: Yeah, right.Sidey: on the Cris: Yeah. Oxy cold was Dan: and a bottle ofCris: No, I didn't drink. I'm not, no, I wasn't, I wasn't gonna mix that. Plus I'm onto antibiotics as well.Dan: Right. Cris: So there's, Dan: there's quite a [00:03:00] cocktail going on there, Chris.Yeah.Cris: It's amazing.Dan: And but today, when you went in, could you feel the relief then after they'veCris: actually do you know what? I wasn't actually in pain and I didn't take any more painkillers since last night, aboutsix. Dan: the residue of painkiller. 'cause they're quite strong. It kept you going though.Cris: I dunno. But because, and, and when I, I made a point of not taking anything. So then when I go to the dentist, I feel everything that they do initially, so they knowwhat the problem is and where it's at. So then when I went today, I wasn't really in pain.But then they put the anesthetic and they did all that, and then they worked on, it took the half of the tooth that was cracked because it was cracked upwards. Like split halfway, right? Rather than a little bit, or, or it was just split. They've taken that bit out and they said, do you want me to take it out the whole thing or we'll try to save it.Let's try to save it rather than take itDan: Yeah.Cris: And she was like, look, I'll try my best. I'll do this, but there's a bit of nerve showing. Right.[00:04:00] Sidey: oh, that's gonna hurt.Cris: so they tried to kind of cover it and I can feel that it's covered and all that, but now is in, I'm still in pain even through the medication. The only problem is if I'm thinking just logically, I've had Saturday three injection, just the injection with an anesthetic today, three more in the same gum.Yeah.Dan: Yeah.Cris: That's a wound in your mouth. Right. That surely is gonna be painful on its own.Plus whatever they did, so I'm not really sure if.Dan: I'm getting toothache just listening Cris: this. Oh man. Yeah,Dan: horrible. Did you ever see that film dentist? It's a horror film. It's like this guy and Sidey: no, I wasn't like that. Dan: No, no. I, well, last time I went to the dentist, I had root canal done and they injected and it must have been like the lady's first down the job or something. I dunno. It was like they, they, it was an emergency. Call out. And it wasn't my usual dentist who's brilliant.He's, he's amazing. But this lady just couldn't get the injections right. Sidey: Oh, Dan: [00:05:00] And honestly, I had like, yeah, I mean, I had five different injections just going around. She was just like, in the end I was just like, what? What? Oh, I mean, everything was just numbed up and I did that. I've got that habit of chewing my mouth, you know, the skin.Sidey: Oh, right. Dan: I had to stop 'cause you can't feel it. Yeah. I'm suddenly eating like, it's like something out of aSidey: the, are you trying to have a drinkCris: you're like, Hannibal Lecter, just chewing on your ownDan: chewing on my own face. It's something out of a Stephen King film or something. Anyway. Horrible. Which, which links nicely.Sidey: Does. Yeah. Very well. Are you familiar with the knives Out?Dan: I am.Cris: I am. I am too.Yes.Sidey: there's the third one out. Have you seen that oneCris: Is that the one in Venice?Sidey: No,Dan: Is it LeSidey: Benoit. Yeah, it's Wake Up Dead Man.Cris: Ah, no, that's the glass onion or Sidey: Lon and Knives Outta Mystery. Yeah, that's the second one.Cris: So what the third one is that, is that on in Venice though? Sidey: No, it's, it's upstate New York. [00:06:00] Okay. In a church.Dan: I've, I've seen the trailer and this is the next best thing that I was going to see because I had a. A discussion with Sonny and he said to me, no, good films have been put out in the last 10 years.Sidey: That is a Dan: Yeah. Sweeping statement.But I had a bit of a me mind, kind of blank. I was going, yeah, yeah. Fucking loads of, and I was like, and I was naming off films that had been like pre 10 years. You know, Sidey: well, mother would've been in theDan: and well, mother would've been in there, but, you know, a real classic, an instant kind of classic that you think, again,Sidey: Heimer apparently one battle after another.It is great. But we haven't seen that yet. Cris: Yeah, I've not seen it yet.Dan: I mean, yeah, this is it. Thinking the last 10 years films we're gonna watch in 20 years time.Sidey: Well, I dunno if it'll be this one, but I'll talk you through it briefly. It's got a hell of a cast. Let's get that out the way. So obviously Daniel Craig returns Dan: Craig e Sidey: Benoit.Yeah. It's got Josh O'Connor right as the other lead. He's a young [00:07:00] priest. Glen Close is in it. Josh, Josh Brolin, who's rounding lots of things recently. Oh, we watched that. Mia Kuni and I spent 75% of the film trying to remember. Her name and in the end, and I hated it. I hated having to do it. IDan: to look, had to,Sidey: know I had to ask.Okay, what's her name? Just couldn't get it. Jeremy Renner, Carrie Washington. You remember her from Scandal? You'd definitelyDan: Jeremy Renner. He's, he'sSidey: Hawkeye, yeah, yeah, yeah. He is back from under the snowplow. Yeah. Yeah.Cris: Well, where was he?Sidey: It got run over by his own, like snowplow machine.He Dan: He didCris: well in real life.Sidey: Yeah. So I think his nephew or something was in front of it, and he had, and it was running like it was because he's got one and he, when it, wherever he lives in Minnesota, I don'tCris: Yeah.Dan: name again.Sidey: yeah. Mr. Plow is a boozer. I think he is a loser. He, so he'll go around the neighborhood and clear all the snow for people.So he'd started up his fucking snowplow and then his nephew or something walked in front of it. So he ran to get him and it fucking went over him. Broke like almost every bone in his body, like so nearly [00:08:00] dead. So he is back. Yeah, up and about. Jesus probably won't be doing any Marvel films anytime soon.Andrew Scott. Dan: I like him.Sidey: Thomas Hayden Church. Jeffrey Wright. So it is a real, who's who. There's even a bit of,Dan: Oh, Cris: Thomas. I know who Thomas Hayden church is. He's, I like him.Sidey: was Sandman in Spider-Man three. Even Joseph Gordon Levitt does a bit of voice acting as a baseball announcer. But the plot of this one is that Jed Judd here is Josh oconnor.He's a young priest up and coming, former boxer who'd killed someone in the ring. He's now found God still got a bit of a temper and someone had fucking stepped to him and he'd punched him and he'd have to have this hearing. And he'd been sent off to this rural parish to go and work with this strict Monsignor, Monsignor Jefferson Wick. That's Josh Brolin's character. And if you've seen the trailer or if you've seen anything about it, you know that he's the guy who dies. And when we meet him, well, Judd walks into the church and it's really barren. Like it's like a Methodist church. If you [00:09:00] like Methodist, everything's straight back, but it's, that's not why it is.There's a, like a shadow slash dirt mark on the wall where the massive cross was and it's gone. And it's like, it's a bit weird. And then it turns out that Monsignor, they'd have to call him that he is super fucking strict. Monsignor's mother had gone mental one night and trashed the church and he says, we leave it like this as a memory to, they call her some sort of derogatory remark.I can't remember what it's and she had also battered. Glen close's character as a young girl, right? And like really gone out and battered her. And then they've looked after Glen Close ever since. So the, the crux of story is that this Monsignor bloke is real proper, like fire and brimstone.And when he is doing his sermon, they show him, he's just like fucking really screaming and yellingDan: pointing andSidey: and, but what he'd actually do was single someone out in the congregation when he knows something about them. And like pan them about it, about whatever their sins are in front of the whole congregation, to the point that they'll get up and [00:10:00] leave and we'd just get a little montage of him just doing this over and over again and the congregation just gradually dwindling down and it's just this group left which the group is then, jeremy Renner, Kerry Washington, Andrew's got this Kaley be isCris: HandpickedSidey: they've all got all of them. They've got a kind of reason to hang around. So one of them's an author writing a book about him. One of them has been, is disabled and he's promised that, you know, faith Healing Will, will do something for this.They've all got. A motive to stay. And as it has gone on, they've all got a motive to be fucking pissed off with him. So potentialmotive for murder,Dan: yeah, yeah. Potential motivesSidey: and what the, when the murder happens, it is a seemingly impossible crime. He's gone, he's finished his sermon, he's gone into this sort of store room is a tiny little cupboard room on the side of the church building in front of everyone who's gone in, closed the door.There's no other, there's no windows, nothing. It's just a little sort of tomb, if you like, and he's been stabbed in there. So they go in. What the fuck has happened? He's [00:11:00] dead. Can't figureDan: Stabbed. Stabbed in the front or the back?Sidey: In the back. By a devil themed knife's got like a rightdevil Cris: There's always a knife,Sidey: There's a knife and a knife in his back.Dan: Is it wedged inSidey: And then benmar blank throughout the movie says about four or five times that there's no way he could ever, he can solve this crime and you're okay until the point where you're gonna solve the crime. So they go they go into the bar. They, they've recognized that this devil headed life thing is actually a sort of this silly prop thing.It's a like a bottle stopper.Cris: Okay.Sidey: Right? Okay. There's a devil themed bar. Dan: near the church. Sidey: Yeah. In the ta it's a small village and there's this food for laws. They've got this devil theme bar. If find Jeremy Renner there, his coach called Nat, I think he answers a few questions and, and I, you know, everyone's got a kind of motive to see this guy Dan: is it set in modern times or,Sidey: yeah, yeah. Current day. Yeah. Yeah. So.it's,we later on we learn [00:12:00] that, monsignor's grandfather had this jewel. And they do make a lot of Lord rings references. So it's kind of like the one ring and, and it's bad shit just follows this jewel around, but it's his, it's fucking super valuable and it's the family inheritance.And he kind of realizes the, the grandfather that is bad news. What what's happened was they thought that the mother had just been possessed by the devil and had wrecked the church out of some fucking, like, possession. She just wiped the jewel. So the old man had swallowed it and she couldn't, then she couldn't find it.So when he died, he had gone to the grave with him. Yeah. And she just, she just was like, ransacking the church trying to find it. So that is like kind of the motivation. And then Monsignor has learned about this jewel and he wants it. So it's a very tangled, we're very Scooby do of like, it, you know, it could be anyone.Right. Everyone's got a motive and what they kind of eventually figure out, He wasn't killed in the room, in [00:13:00] the Fay room. Ah, and he kind of like, no, he, he couldn't actually have been killed in there. They, they're sort of looking for, is there like a gap in the wall where a knife could have come through?There isn't like, he just, it was just an impossibility. And the reason he would go in there is because. He would get pissed. He would have a flask, he would get Dan: right,Have a fewSidey: get tanked up before he would go out and fucking pan everyone. So he's gone in there, that's been spiked. So he's just collapsed to the point where he's only just alive.But his vital signs would read as being dead.Oh. But he's not really dead, so he is taken away. And then, there's a conspiracy to get someone, there's a family tomb to get someone into the tomb, which is Thomas Hayden church's character. And he, he's there and he will break out and, and he will get in there and find where this Jewel is.So after they've kind of, sort ofDan: it should be in the belly of theSidey: starting to figure things out Judd comes, he's, he's like, look, do you know [00:14:00] what? I'm just gonna actually concentrate on being a priest. I'm not interested in this bullshit anymore. It's all like the devil's work. I'm just gonna be well, and when he leaves, he walks down the road and he sees a figure come out of the tomb, which he thinks is Monsignor and go over to I think it's Thomas Hayden church's character and embrace him.And he runs down and he falls and knocks himself out. And when he comes to, he's next to the dead body of.Dan: The guy.Sidey: Tom Sadden church character, his name fucking escapes me. So he's now suspected of, 'cause they originally thought he had done the first murder. Now they think he's done this murder.Dan: he's next toSidey: What they do is they go, him and BeMore blank, go back to Jeremy Renner's house and something, something smells a bit off and they go down into the basement and there's a bathtub full of acid and hicks.Monsignor Hicks or Wicks, or whatever the fuck his name is, leaning over it with his arms in it, and when they lift him up, it's just bone. [00:15:00] And when they drain it Nat is in it. If I could just skeleton, like he's completely dissolved apart from the bones. And then they kind of like go back and then they figure it out and Benmore blank says, actually we we need to give the killer the opportunity to confess.So he kind of like, in this one, he does figure it out, but with the other priest guy, they're like, look, we need to. Forgive and blah, blah, blah, and let them have the opportunity. And it turns out it's Glen closest character. And then there's a thing on the internet, if you take the poster for each of the three movies, you take out Mont Blank, and it's the three at the press.Like always the people at the front of the poster always the killer.Dan: OhCris: Oh right. Yeah. So they made it obvious, but yeah.Sidey: And she confesses to the fact that she, she knew about the jewel and she knew where it was hidden and she had sworn to protect the secret of this jewel the whole time. And the mother knew figured out that she knew.I think she may have even told the mother, and that's why she was beating her in the church when she'd gone crazy. And she does this whole confession and she's Fent, barbital, I think is the drug that they took. [00:16:00] And she says, she acts nice little detail. She says it takes 10 minutes for. For that to poison you and kill you.And the time that she starts confessing to the part that she actually dies is exactly 10 minutes quite nice. And she sort of confesses this whole thing about the whole plot that they'd arranged. And I think his name's Solomon actually told I.TH C's name. He was never supposed to die.That was all a mistake. And she's been confessing her guilt and apologizing to all the victims and all the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's kind of resolved. Samson,Dan: How, how does it stand up to, because I've seen the otherCris: Yeah, I've seen the other two.Sidey: well, we'll be cut back to 18 months later and Jarred.Has I think he's, he's got a bit of woodwork skills, so he's, then, he's he's now taken on the church and he's putting the cross back up and he is putting everything back to thing and trying to grow the congregation back up and all that sort of stuff. Still the first one is, is by far the best, I think.Cris: That's the one with Anna Dermas and Yeah. Yeah. They've got, all of them have great cost.Sidey: Yeah. I mean, the second one, second one I found [00:17:00] like was really over the top. Cris: Yeah. It had Jan Monet though, although she's gay apparently. ISidey: I think she's bi, isn't Cris: I dunno. But yeah, Sidey: I think it's one of the album artwork.She's just like completely naked in it if you are interested in that. I think that's my least favorite of the three. This one I think was to be honest only. Okay. Okay. Daniel Craig is in it a lot, but he doesn't do that much sleuthing. I, that's what my, my main disappointment with it was he doesn't really do that muchDan: saluting. Yeah,Sidey: I was bit disappointedDan: I, I, that's what I thought. Might have something a little more, you know, Sherlock Holmesy aboutSidey: it's more Scooby-Doo than, than Sherlock. I would say this one. He does have some great outfits, some great fits. CostumeCris: are always greatSidey: He's looking slick.Dan: Still one that I'll go round and watch, I think, but maybe I'm not inCris: was this on any streaming Sidey: services?It's Netflix It's Cris: is inSidey: They, they gave it the cursory one week. So they, they do all that theatrical release so that it could get considered for awards. So I think it made like a million in in the box office. But really it's [00:18:00] a streamer. It's, it looks good.The cast is really good. Plus it's a little bit silly. I had a hankering for a good murder ministry after watching this, so I was trying to find, so I watched some old poro ones and that's better.Dan: Whi Which poro onesSidey: Death on the Nile White.Dan: Okay. Is that the one with, Sidey: well, we were watching the newer one.Dan: Oh,Cris: I've watched that oneSidey: which I actually decided to fuck it off.Cris: is with Wonder Woman.Sidey: Yeah. Garo A. AndCris: we've got enough champagne to drown. The NileSidey: is in it as Yeah.Yeah. I wanna go back and watch those ones. Dan: That's on BBCI play at theSidey: iPlay at the moment. Okay. Nice. So this was, this is like a moderate recommend, I'd say.Dan: Okay. Well, I do like a, a sleuth and a bit of a who done mysterySidey: out there, but this is like almost, you could watch it with the whole fam lamb.Dan: Well,Sidey: As long as the kids aren't too young, you, you'll be fine with, with,Dan: yeah. Okay. Sidey: with yours. now. Yeah. Nelly's seen a lot worse.Cris: no, but this is not,Sidey: it's not [00:19:00] gruesome. No.Dan: No.Sidey: It's just a mystery.Dan: yeah. That, that's, ISidey: that's the thing is with me with these is I, I'm able to just. Switch or I don't try and solve it as I'm watching it. I just let it wash over me like your semen. And I, I, I don't Cris: and it'll be, it'll be revealed to you who Sidey: Yeah. I just let it entertain me. Yeah.And I, to honest, when I think back to him, I'm like, there's no clues. It would actually tell you,like, couldn't it? You'd just a guess go. Oh, I think it was them, but you wouldn't know. So no moderate. Recommend Dan: moderate.Medium.