April 23, 2026

Floods & Flow

Floods & Flow

In this episode of Bad Dads Film Review, the crew is completely out of their depth covering the "Top 5 Floods" in cinema history, before diving into the 2025 Latvian animated masterpiece, Flow.

After navigating the high waters of cinematic floods (including a nod to the flipped cruise ship of The Poseidon Adventure), the main feature takes center stage. Flow follows a cat surviving a catastrophic flood alongside a capybara, a lemur, and a large dog. With no humans, no explanation, and zero dialogue, it still managed to beat out Inside Out 2 for Best Animated Feature at the 97th Academy Awards. The Dads break down why this quiet film earned their absolute strongest recommendation.

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This week on Bad Dads Film Review, the dads are covering the "Top 5 Floods" in cinema history before taking a deep dive into the 2025 Oscar-winning Latvian animated film, Flow.

What We Covered

  • Top 5 Floods: The crew discusses the best cinematic deluges, including Dan's deep-dive into the upside-down chaos of The Poseidon Adventure.
  • The Main Feature: Reviewing Flow, the stunning animated feature about a cat, a capybara, a lemur, and a dog surviving a massive flood.
  • Zero Dialogue, Maximum Impact: How a film with no humans and no talking managed to beat Inside Out 2 at the 97th Academy Awards.
  • The Verdicts: An absolute "flood of emotion and high praise." The entire crew gave it their strongest possible recommendation.

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Bad Dads

Cris: Welcome to Bad

Reegs: to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast

that is to cultural enrichment as a stool sample is to a

cheeseboard.

Sidey: sample is

Reegs: this week we're completely out of our

depth with the top five floods. The event every major religion

reached for independently when they needed to explain what happens when God stops giving a shit about

his own creations.

Uh, we'll be generating more uncontrolled

discharge than curry Knight at a care home, more catastrophic overflow than the average NHS waiting list and more unsolicited moisture than Dan's

handshake

Sidey: moisture

Cris: letting

Reegs: letting the cat out of the bag for our main

feature.

It's Oscar winning Latvian animated film flow in which a cat survives a

catastrophic flood accompanied by a Capy Barra, a Lima,

and a

large dog. No humans, no

explanation and no dialogue. And yet it still managed to say more of worth than Nigel Farage has [00:01:00] said In 30 years of public life,

Sidey: In

30 years of public life,

Reegs: listeners are advised that the following program contains strong language scenes of spoilers.

Some may find distressing in content and of, of, an

aquatic nature that the bad dads editorial guidelines were not designed to anticipate if indeed

such a thing even existed. Listener discretion is advised though

frankly, if you had any, he wouldn't be here in the first

place,

Sidey: you wouldn't be here in the

Reegs: before the levy breaks entirely.

Let's

meet this week's collection of human sandbags, starting

with Dan. Uh, he's so old. He remembers telling

Noah that two of

everything was excessive in his. It was yeah, and his

Dan: was, yeah. I tried to tell him.

Cris: You wouldn't listen.

Dan: tried to tell

Reegs: His fucks went extinct so long ago. They don't even show up in the sediment record.

Dan: in

Sidey: show up in the sediment record.

Cris: Uh, next up,

Reegs: next up, beautiful Chris, a man who continues to show up every week to a film podcast on the basis of a tolerance for cinema so narrow, you

could lose it down a drain Unless there's subtitles,

it's less than 90 minutes and someone's getting their head held underwater until they

stop moving. Chris considers it cinema for people who describe their [00:02:00] personality as eclectic and

mean that as a compliment.

Cris: Yeah, it's true.

Sidey: a

Reegs: true. Yeah. And, uh, no Stranger to a soaking

pussy in third place, the man whose introduction this week practically wrote itself the moment we picked a flood episode in a film about

a cat.

It's sidey.

Hello. And then there's

me regs.

Cris: Hi. Res.

Reegs: Riggs. Hi

Sidey: Hello. Hi

Reegs: Hi.

Dan: Hi Si. Hi. Um, you always make yourself so sound so normal um, at the end, and really you are like the weirdest one of us all.

Sidey: of us all.

Reegs: Yeah. Really

Sidey: Aren't you really? Yeah. Really.

Dan: But we just don't write that intro. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: away,

Sidey: Dan, you've

been

Dan: been away, away, away,

Sidey: have way away? We did. You have a good

Dan: did. yeah. It

was

in,

Sidey: It was in,

Dan: Spanish, Spain, um, the Spaniards and um, with the family as well. Um, went to a flea market, which

Sidey: which clean fleas.

Reegs: that was

Dan: That was all that was there. Honestly, it was the dirtiest market

Cris: crazy. Well, you've been to. some

Dan: crazy. Well, you've

Sidey: you've been some, you've been, you've been some

dirty

Dan: Unbelievable. [00:03:00] Honestly, there's nothing in there that you, well worse

though,

Sidey: the than

Nepal.

Reegs: it just,

Dan: Like just, it was just absolute. It was like bellan. It was like going down Bellan,

Sidey: Bella,

Dan: which is our, our kind of dump site. Um, and

Sidey: and recycling center.

Dan: center. Recycling center.

Um,

Cris: It was site,

Reegs: site.

Dan: absolute dump site. It was just, it was just like gut and people were selling

Reegs: It wasn't food. And so I like wondering In the food markets, No, it wasn't, food.

Sidey: one.

Dan: wasn't food. It was just like flea market in the real sense of flea

Reegs: I once, um, I remember a really were selling guns.

Dan: were selling guns. That was the only, my ears picked up.

Sidey: How many did you get? One guy goes,

Dan: Interested in some guns. He was an English guy

Reegs: crime.

Sidey: obviously it's Costell crime is it?

Dan: Costell crime. And he goes,

Sidey: he goes,

Dan: I've got some guns in the back of the van if you wanna have a look, Cole. And he goes, yeah, okay. I'll have a look like, and I was just hanging around there, just

Sidey: there, just listening.

Dan: And I said to the family, they're sending guns down there. And he goes, oh yeah, okay.

Sidey: okay.

Reegs: right.

We all,

I went two quite

Dan: all become quite immune to it by then and just [00:04:00] wandered up and see whatever other crap there was.

We didn't spend a

Reegs: even spend one euro we didn't spend

Dan: year, We didn't even spend one euro. There was nothing you would've had. Um, but that was, uh, a low light and otherwise quite a highlight of, um, plazas and sangria and wine and tapas. And,

Cris: a sunshine,

Reegs: sunshine, like a

Sidey: have you, you got like a sunshine, like a family wide collective

drink problem.

It seem to be every Friday you

like, seem

Dan: Yeah. Oh, right. Every Friday. Um, sometimes Wednesdays and Tuesdays.

Reegs: I applaud it.

Sidey: No, I applaud it.

I yeah's well done.

Cris: It, was

Reegs: was but it

Dan: Yeah. it but it was nice. Otherwise it was, uh,

c.

Sidey: uh, s.

Cris: you seen

Reegs: You seen anything this week side?

Dan: this

Sidey: anything this week side?

Cris: I was toting up

Reegs: toting up all the stuff

Dan: totting

Sidey: I was toting up all the stuff that I read and,

Reegs: about current

Dan: watch

Sidey: watch about current

affairs.

Dan: 'cause I was like, I

Sidey: 'cause I was like, I do watch a lot of stuff.

Mm-hmm. But I haven't watched a new

movie for a

little while. I do wanna watch Project

Hail Mary, but I haven't got around to watching that. I haven't got around to watching that. [00:05:00] I've got High hopes for That one. Yeah. Um, I watched an episode of Barry,

but other than that, no.

Not, not a great

Dan: I watched Speed over in Spain. because It was the only, um, English channel we had and it, it just came on and it was good.

You know, you just, Yeah. Just What do you mean? connecting back up to that, but just been a while since I'd, I'd seen it, but it stood up and it was, Um.

hopper was great.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Keanu good

chemistry

between Keanu and, uh, Sandra Bullock as well. They just done it.

Sidey: Sandra Bullock. They must have done it,

Dan: And

um, who's the guy who was, uh, dumb and Dumber? Not Jeff Daniels.

Jeff Daniels. He was,

Sidey: was,

Reegs: Keanu's

yeah.

Dan: Keanu's, yeah. Uh, partner Yeah. in it. And he's got a, he's gotta shoot him to get the,

Reegs: kill hot shoot the hostage.

That's the shoot, the

Sidey: the

Dan: Shoot the hostage. That's the, to shoot the hostage.

Reegs: quiz, hot shot or whatever, all that. Which one of those

Dan: That's right. Which one of those one

Sidey: It's one of those films where the sequel is better than the

original.

Reegs: Control.

Well, I

Sidey: two.

Cruise

Cris: [00:06:00] No.

Is that the one on the

Dan: No, The one on the

Sidey: one? Yeah, Jason.

Dan: man. I

Reegs: I think

that killed sequels.

Dan: killed sequels. Actually, that was the end of sequels. Yeah.

Cris: but that was,

Reegs: but

Dan: No, but that was, that was good. That was a, a highlight of Spanish television.

Reegs: anything? Uh, yeah, I caught up with Invincible and the Boys. Uh, it's crazy that Amazon puts basically those things up, not up against each other,

but out at the

same time when they're essentially the same audience.

Sidey: I know you could stagger a little bit. Yeah.

Reegs: yeah, it's okay. I

Sidey: so

Reegs: up on the

Sidey: yeah, it's okay. I had given up on the boys and I watched it

again. Uh, I caught up with it all when I was in Thailand and we

were hung over one day, so I caught up with it. So I'm back

Reegs: in the, the final season?

Sidey: Are they drip feeding, it or is it all

Reegs: but there are about five episodes in already. So

we won't have to wait long.

Sidey: So boy have to, I

Dan: there's another

Reegs: the last one. The last one.

Sidey: of The boy. The last one

It was the final.

Reegs: even

Dan: Oh, I didn't even know. Um, um, what, what was the other one you said? Invincible.

Sidey: Invincible. animated superhero violence.

Dan: okay.

Reegs: was really the last

Sidey: [00:07:00] was really

Reegs: Seven, I think it was, was really absolutely grotesque.

There was one moment where I actually did have to look away from the screen briefly. Invincible. Yeah. He's just pulling this guy's guts out like

endlessly with his hands and the noises like, what did they do to Steven

Yrn to

make him make those noises in the

recording booth? God knows. live method?

Yeah.

Sidey: The did it live method. Yeah. Yeah,

Dan: The other thing we've enjoyed, uh, watching at home recently, Nelly and I is uh, the good doctor, which I've mentioned before in the, um, we've,

Sidey: the, like the sort of Doogie hazard type

Dan: we've got to the stage now where we just enjoy slating it every, co what? That would never happen. And he, why wouldn't they just, why are they

Reegs: the young way he, autism is a superpower and It's one of those, isn't it? But he's, it's

not

Dan: he's, it's not really, 'cause actually you think, well, why not make him better in, in the end he's just like being,

Reegs: the average doctor

Dan: the average

Sidey: also haven't had, haven't we had house where he is like aut, you know, that sort of thing. I've got the pit queued up to watch

'cause that's supposed

Dan: house

is said [00:08:00] to be better.

Reegs: know about the pit?

Cris: No.

Sidey: Have you, do you know about the

pit?

Reegs: a medical

Sidey: That's a, a medical drama and

it

Reegs: Noah

Wiley who

Sidey: says, got Noah Wiley who was, um-huh John Carter from

Reegs: playing,

Dan: he's

Sidey: but he's playing,

uh, again an ER

doctor, But this is er crossed with I I guess the two references would be 24.

'cause it's, It's

one. the series is

Dan: Oh,

Cris: of their

Sidey: Oh, okay. So every, every Episode. is an hour of their shift throughout the day.

Um, it's supposed to be excellent.

My mother's been watching it on my, um, HBO profile. She's told me

it's very, very good. Like

Reegs: that

launched, didn't it, At HBO

Max in the UK last

week or the week before. Yeah,

Dan: me. Before.

Sidey: Before. Yeah, they went to season two in the US It's the fastest selling

Cris: It's been a lot

Reegs: It's been service, but really

Sidey: a lot of hype

Reegs: in the

uk. The the HBO Max. Yeah.

Cris: Like

Reegs: That's super, super

Dan: Okay.

Sidey: Like Super, super gory.

you know, er,

Dan: room. Well we, we are getting,

into

Sidey: the first episode's got like a deglove foot

Dan: If you need to get in there. Get a CPI eight [00:09:00] milligrams of this, that, and the other, and you're like,

Reegs: God. It's like,

I'm there. Don't even need to

Dan: do it. Yeah. don't even need um, I, I don't need to go to medical school. Just watch season of

Cris: I didn't watch

Sidey: Chris, what do you watch?

Dan: didn't

Reegs: time

You have you working too hard, Man.

Sidey: Are you even grafting? We've been working too hard.

Cris: a couple of days off. I was really annoyed today. I was really angry today at work and I, I wanted to strangle a couple of them today.

Um, I had

Reegs: I had customers or

Cris: the staff mostly,

Sidey: or staff?

Cris: um, because I'm always surrounded by girls and they're very young and they're really annoying me.

Sidey: very young and really

Cris: life, isn't

Reegs: life, isn't it? Yeah.

Dan: life, isn't it? eh? Yeah. And,

Reegs: finding a lot of discarded pants at work?

Chris? Honestly,

Sidey: at

Cris: what was it? Friday

Dan: what was

Cris: went to put the towels in the wash, put the towels in the wash, because obviously our, our sister business is a yoga studio.

Put the towels in the wash. I didn't really look, I just picked them up and put them in, in the wash. Took them out two pairs of pants, both of them. Women's,

Sidey: pairs of

Cris: Took them out and I, I, as I put them on the, on the

Reegs: on the size

Sidey: as I

Dan: on the, size shape, I [00:10:00]

Cris: I dunno, the, the. Thing goes in your ass, whatever you call it.

Vt stringing, VT stringing, vt stringing, g-string, A thong type thing. Thong, yeah. That So,

Reegs: Yeah. So, but these people, there's a lot of women coming to your work and

just leaving their pants there. I

Cris: I don't understand.

Sidey: their pants there. I

Cris: Especially because look, you've been in the cafe, you know the setup. It's not like you, you get a changing room inside the studio.

You need to, how do they, how do your pants end up in the Chris? Have

Sidey: how do your

Dan: up in the, Chris?

Have

Cris: they don't even for me,

Reegs: me. That

Sidey: they'll leave

Dan: That look, I

Sidey: one of those

was mine.

Cris: so I

Reegs: so I went for

Dan: so I went

Reegs: bite

Sidey: so I went for a quick pint on Friday

and bumped into

80. Oh right. Yeah.

And he goes,

oh, so do you know a guy called,

I'm not gonna say his name. Um, and I was like, yeah.

And he goes, oh, 'cause

Cris: I was just, just wondering.

Reegs: wondering. 'cause he

Sidey: yeah, it's just, just wondering. 'cause he goes,

Reegs: found, I

Sidey: the reason I ask, 'cause I found I know where he works. So I went on the website and

then he goes, I saw that you work there as well, And I was like, fucking hell. And he is like, yeah, we'd,

um, [00:11:00] so this eighties got a building company. Yeah. And

Reegs: so and

so had, you

Sidey: He's like, so and so had, you

know, we were gonna build an extension for him,

Cris: all

Reegs: I was like, all

right.

Dan: Peter Berg, like,

Sidey: and I was like, all right.

I said, oh, that's funny because he lives in a different country.

Reegs: and then he is like, yeah, so anyway, it is

all

Sidey: and then he is like, yeah, so anyway, it's all

gone quiet and

he is not returning my calls and blah, blah blah. And I was like,

okay.

So Finished my pin literal he went across

to, so that was crafty and I went to, soy and I was meeting the other guy.

Reegs: was like,

uh,

Dan: I was like,

Sidey: I was like, uh,

just was chatting to someone called ad and the guy's looking at me like,

oh.

Reegs: he is looking for you. And he's like,

Sidey: And he is like,

he is looking for you. And he is like, yeah, uh,

did agree to do that, but I need to go back to him.

thought 450 grand It was quite

expensive. And I was like, yeah, that does sound quite

expensive. Um, I was, but

Cris: you're not gonna do it. And

Reegs: do it.

Cris: it.

Sidey: the guy, Yeah,

you're not doing it. or whatever, Which I think he's got that impression anyway.

Cris: and then bumped into this guy. Yeah.

Sidey: him and then went across. It was like, fuck me, Why am I the middleman All this shit. Um,

anyhow. Shall we get on to

talking about some

floods? [00:12:00] Yeah.

Cris: Soak me

Reegs: me

Dan: Soak

me

Reegs: top five floods.

Dan: top five

Sidey: top five floods.

There's fucking loads of opportunities to talk

about floods. Okay.

Dan: you are

unprepared as I am,

Sidey: I am.

Reegs: you're always

Sidey: I like a disaster.

Cris: Oh,

Reegs: dad.

Dan: dad. Oh,

Sidey: Dad. Dad,

Dan: come on.

Sidey: on. So old Your dad. Old. Uh, I love a disaster movie. And

that, that's, that's rife for,

uh, flooding Yeah.

fertile ground. Yeah.

Um, day after tomorrow.

Reegs: master at flooding, isn't he?

Sidey: master of ing, isn't he? Yeah. Deep impact.

But my, the one I really like

is

Dan: Oh, I was gonna say this. Yeah.

I Really like this movie

Sidey: like a Noah's Ark vibe. Yeah. I

Reegs: John Cusack not to love

Woody Harrison.

Sidey: wants not to love

Reegs: is the kind of, um, conspiracy nut, that

Sidey: the kind of, um, conspiracy nut,

but it's,

Reegs: all along. Yeah. Yeah. He's doing a

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: all along. Yeah. He's doing a sort of, I

guess, podcast on the top of a

Dan: a trailer.

Sidey: trailer. A ridge in a trailer. And He

gets, he

Dan: watch this a couple of times. First time.

I thought it is a disaster

Sidey: if I'm [00:13:00] on, if I'm at home and I catch it on a channel, I'll

watch it. It is great.

Reegs: like that Really. Also, moon fall, which had the moon coming close to the earth in like upwards flood. we reviewed it on the pod and we all we did.

Sidey: we reviewed it on the pod and we all loved it. 'cause it's amazing. Yeah, it's incredible.

What's that guy's name? I can never remember that

actor's name? Patrick Wilson. Is it? Yes. Is that actually his name? Yeah.

My God It's the first time I ever read it. Um,

but there's some strong flooding contact at the end and they, they, essentially have to travel

across

America. Fuck yeah. To get in these giant

arcs. Yeah.

Um, which they do manage to do,

um,

Reegs: there's still like an hour and a half of the movie to because it's quite a long one, isn't it? They get in there and then there's probably 40 minutes of the world

being just destroyed and smashed about. Yeah. There's like the Russian

Dan: Yeah. There's like

Sidey: Yeah. There's like the Russian oligarch guy who's,

Reegs: bought

his way onto

Dan: bought

Sidey: he's bought his way onto one of

the, the arcs and then you get a whole thing of them going

through the sort of

Reegs: into it through things

Sidey: into it through things whilst there's sort of little, mini bits of flooding where they're going

through getting [00:14:00] caught in it all.

Um, yeah. Supreme flood

content.

Reegs: the abyss?

Dan: the abyss?

Cris: there's a

Reegs: there's a couple of

Dan: there's a couple of flooding, um, things on that when they get kind of flooded from underneath. Yeah. Um, but also

Reegs: that kind of

Dan: that kind of huge tsunami wave which just stops in midair and you see the seagulls just

Reegs: around.

There's

Dan: flying around.

There's that kind of cut. 'cause there's a few different

Reegs: Yeah, there is. Yeah.

Dan: movie, isn't

Reegs: there's a whole different ending as well where a big

thing with aliens coming out and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So

Dan: sort. Yeah. Yeah. So I've watched it in a few, a few times and been surprised to see it different and differently, you

Reegs: also

the, in that, 'cause it, it just, I always remember this about this film, the flood of that liquid. That they,

have to breathe, you know, because they they breathe water.

Dan: They've gotta, they've gotta, yeah, that's right. They've Gotta swallow it down, like, an,

Sidey: and uh, so voluntarily sort of drown yourself almost to,

Dan: that's it.

Yeah, they do. And it, it [00:15:00] goes into their lungs and it had some kind of oxygen liquid that meant means that they can breathe under water. Um, but Ed Harris has to go down and he's the one that,

Cris: like

Reegs: like some

Dan: he's got like some kind of computer keyboard, isn't he? He goes, always knew this would be one weight trip.

Sidey: trip.

Reegs: the hero as he

Dan: Being the hero as he goes down. And then this airlock opens up underwater 'cause the aliens have opened it and that he's, they're showing him a huge tsunami that's gonna go over there and he has a, a huge tsunami that's gonna go over the world and he's saying you can't judge us. And all the rest of it. And it just kind of freezes there, just as they're about to flood the world and everything.

Um,

Sidey: Um,

Cris: That's, That's, one that

Reegs: one that

Dan: that's one that always gets me actually for the, for the floods. And it's a few floods, It's say a, a couple in the, um, underwater flooding as well.

Cris: I've

Dan: Disaster movie.

Reegs: an

Cris: one, but, uh, [00:16:00] it's underground. I think. Uh, I can't remember which one because I didn't write it down because obviously I'm such an absolute legend.

Um, there's one of the mission impossible ones, one of the recent ones where Tom Cruise goes into, he needs to go into an spinning thing, spinning underground

Sidey: the spinning thing, the spinning of the brown chamber where he needs to take out a,

I think it might be Ghost protocol.

Reegs: you mean. Yeah. So,

Sidey: I know the one you mean.

Cris: Yes. He needs to

Sidey: the discs is gonna have to be kept.

Yes.

Cris: around.

He

Sidey: out in, in the secure voltage underwater around,

Cris: opens up the water thing. Yeah. Uh, Simon Peg, uh, pegs, it de floods whatever takes all the water out

Reegs: water out

Sidey: whatever,

Cris: 38 seconds or whatever, and then he, have you seen that? Yeah. Do you know

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: that? Yeah. What

Sidey: that? Yeah. Is it the thing? We have to jump, he has to

jump in from the top and

it is a huge,

Reegs: he have to learn to

Sidey: hole that you have to, you have

Reegs: and a half minutes?

or something? stupid?

Sidey: has every one of those films has to

Dan: It's based on a true story. Yeah.

Cris: what people do. And,

Dan: it's cruise.

Cris: It's a good

Reegs: that's a good one. Is a flooded underwater

Sidey: flooded

Cris: [00:17:00] Yeah. Under, sorry. Underground room. Not

Dan: sorry.

Sidey: Under, sorry. Underground

Cris: It does become underwater, but

Dan: It does

Sidey: It does become underwater, but,

Cris: Well, I've got

Reegs: I've got frozen two,

Sidey: got frozen two,

Reegs: If you remember the beginning of that film,

which I'm sure you do.

It turns out that Elsa's grandfather built a dam as a sort of.

Sidey: built a

Reegs: deliberate

instrument of colonial genocide against

the indigenous population. And uh. it's Probably a slightly heavier narrative pivot than you were really expecting, uh, from the sequel about a musical snowman.

Um, but, uh,

she tears it down, doesn't she?

Like a massive wall of water that,

uh, smashes through the fjord and, uh, comes at Aaronel and then

Elsa has to freeze it with her. Uh, so

Dan: her.

Sidey: with her. Uh, some sort

of, um, earth science,

polar,

Reegs: type metaphor. Yeah.

Sidey: ice cap type metaphor. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. But I also think it's the only time a war crime

has been, um, corrected by aggressive ice

[00:18:00] sculpting.

Sidey: by aggressive ice sculpting.

Yeah.

More power.

to her. Uh,

Is there gonna be a third one?

Dan: Probably. gotta be Martin.

Sidey: Martin.

Cris: Um, ma

Reegs: Marty,

Martin.

Dan: Marty,

Cris: he

Sidey: Marty. Marty, um, he works in the travel industry and he just went to,

it would be Disney,

Cris: he did go, yeah.

Sidey: think it's Euro Disney. Yeah, And they had the new frozen world bit there. Okay. So it was good. but There's only one ride and it's

quite short. But he did have lot his

photo

of all the different characters.

It's

really

Cris: this is a six foot two

Dan: And this is a

Sidey: And this is a six

foot two. Yeah, he's massive. That funny. Yeah man.

Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. That was, I dunno where

Dan: Yeah. That was

Sidey: yeah. That was, really true. I dunno where that came

from. Um, we did talk about arcs before a little

bit. There's

um, obviously there's no Earth 2014. Love that one. Darren

Cris: the Russell Crow?

Sidey: one.

Reegs: Crowe? Yeah. He has

Cris: own. I've seen that. I've had that written down. Yeah.

Dan: think I had

Reegs: The rock monsters. You

Dan: You but he enjoyed this. I didn't, I have to revisit this because

Cris: I quite liked

Dan: [00:19:00] you love

Reegs: It's just fucking mad. Like It's got all these rock monsters

Sidey: it's

Cris: really dark leaf. Everything is, is under a cloud.

Sidey: is,

Dan: under a

Sidey: under a cloud. Mm. You mean

Cris: light? Yes. The light is, looks like there's no light

Sidey: Yes, the light

Not just, there's thematically dark.

Reegs: it's

um, exactly. A lot of it's filmed inside as well in the Arc,

isn't it?

Cris: Oh right. You know, but even when he is outside, when it starts raining and that it's still not, it looks

Sidey: raining and

Cris: like it's nighttime all the time.

You

Reegs: the time. Well, You could pivot

Dan: time. Well, you

Sidey: all the time.

Well, you could pivot straight from

that to Evan Almighty, which

Reegs: sequel that nobody asked for to Bruce

Almighty. I

Dan: Bruce

Cris: I've never

Sidey: Mighty or watched that. I dunno if many people watched it. I've never watched

it. Or

Reegs: Carroll. I do like him,

Sidey: it's Steve Carrell. I do like him,

but I, Bruce Almighty was great. I

was, I was,

like, I was done. I didn't need another one. Yeah.

Um, and then other, like another ship, one Titanic

of various different,

Reegs: That's

necessarily

Sidey: variety That's necessarily the, because the sea

Dan: flooded. Yeah. Ships gets

Sidey: the,

Cris: thinking

Reegs: thinking of, of

Dan: thinking of, of kind of other [00:20:00] floods, then you've got

Sidey: you've got the

Dan: the tie. um,

Reegs: true story of the

Dan: true story of the kids getting saved

Sidey: saved and the kids Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. the one that Elon Musk called him a, that

Dan: Yeah. that was just Super weird.

He said, oh, we'll send in a submarine.

And obviously just stupid because

Reegs: when you saw how they got them out, it was

Sidey: you saw how they

Dan: it was the size of,

um, you know, like a, a flume or something. Less than that, that you go through. Um, and he, they're packaging kids up, He said, what genius idea, like to say, right, how are we gonna get these kids out?

They're definitely gonna freak, you're talking about an hour. They're gonna have to go through these tight, narrow channels and even tighter than a flume. Like, you know, it is just

Sidey: it is just

Reegs: pipe

that

Dan: pipe that can just get one body through and then you've gotta go one at a time to, to come through. And he, he brought in a, a friend of his, Denise That was

Reegs: It was Colin Farrell and

Sidey: It was

Colin [00:21:00] Farrell and.

Cris: person,

Reegs: person, another one, another

Sidey: Another

Dan: another person. There was definitely other people in it, and he'd. Invited this guy who he'd been caving with before to help him. And when he

Sidey: Yeah. People do this for fun. they do this

Dan: he got there, he goes, oh,

Sidey: he goes, oh,

Cris: pleased that you've

Dan: really pleased that you've invited me, but I, you know, not really at your level.

You know, I'm I'm just, anything I can do to

Reegs: that's when he twigs while he is there. Then

Sidey: that's when

Dan: you're there. Then it, then it, it dawned on him, he goes, you are an anesthetist. That's

Reegs: Yeah. you're not here.

'cause you're a caver. you're not

Dan: you're a caver. You're not here because you're a caver. You are here because you are gonna put these kids and we are just gonna bring 'em out

Reegs: What a crazy story.

Dan: that's the way to do it. And the only bloke that died was the T Marine. That's right. who

Sidey: who

Cris: gung-ho. At

Dan: went in a little bit gung-ho. At least in the movie, they, they kind of produced it that way, that he wasn't quite at the level of,

Reegs: or maybe trying to prove himself a bit. Trying to, yeah.

Dan: trying to Yeah. Which is a tragic story. 'cause he, he obviously wanted to help [00:22:00] and he was a hero just going in that environment. Totally.

Sidey: totally

Reegs: Hard as nails

Dan: Hard as nails to put yourself mentally in that position where you're gonna risk your life to save these kids. Um, but the experts, these cavers had got 'em all out after this cave had flooded and Yeah.

Um, what made it all more bizarre and weird at the time

Sidey: the time

Reegs: Elon

Dan: the fact that Elon Musk was waiting in, they didn't show that in the film, but Elon Musk was waiting in saying, oh, send in a fucking submarine, and why don't you want my help? You a pedo and all the rest of it. And you're just thinking, wow, the, these guys have wished their, lives.

Sidey: just 'cause he is a billionaire doesn't

Dan: he wanted to, you know, I dunno, cheap publicity or whatever.

I have no idea. No Idea. I think he ended up getting sued and having to

Sidey: He did. Yeah. pay

Dan: this guy a few hundred grand, which is fucking peanuts to Elon, of course, but, um, is the principle of the fact and the fact we're calling him out. Elon, [00:23:00] you

are nut a

Cris: Wow. Yeah.

Sidey: Wow.

yeah. Strong words,

Reegs: Um, the,

Sidey: Um,

the,

Cris: I've got this thing with CO Kevin Costner that is the world is flooded.

Sidey: that

Cris: Water World. Water

Reegs: Water World, Water, water

Cris: yeah. That is a good one. No, the I, they don't actually show the,

Dan: they don't actually show the,

Sidey: they don't

Cris: the,

moment of flooding, right?

Sidey: the moment of flooding.

No, We just

Cris: it. used to be the world that as we would

Sidey: it used to be the world

Dan: most expensive, um, film ever made

Cris: was. it? Okay. Yeah. Um, it is, it is 1995, so, so it's quite a while ago.

Reegs: It was like

Dan: quite a while. Yeah. It was like 200 million back then or something. And.

um, I think a lot of it went on the actual gills that they implanted in '

Reegs: cause they did turn him

into part fish for the

Cris: Yeah. And they, they had to take him out so he can breathe. Yeah. To go back being a

Reegs: a normal life. Yeah.

Sidey: could go back

Cris: yeah. That was a flood. Yeah. And it was quite, look, I've never seen anything [00:24:00] like it

Dan: never

Sidey: I've never seen anything

Reegs: Hopefully you never will,

Cris: I hope I never will. Yeah.

Dan: it's, I hope I never will. Yeah. I think It's probably just about made

Cris: can I put another in, uh, request in for the flooding of the cave in Apocalypto

Dan: Apocalypto

Reegs: when

Cris: the panther or whatever it's called, the, the main character, the skinny jaguar guy. Yeah. When he leaves his misses and the kid in a hole in the ground and because of the rain, the hole starts flooding and it fills up and he goes through all the adventure with the sacrifice.

Sidey: all the

Cris: He escapes the sacrifice, runs back to get his messes out. And he just, they just make it to get the, she, he gets, he just gets them out the cave before they drown.

Reegs: a Good one.

Mel Gibson. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Cris: of the

Reegs: a Friend of the pod,

Dan: Gave out the

Sidey: Friend of the pod, obviously Yeah. gbo,

Yeah.

Friend of Rick's people, uh,

Reegs: Would you like a list of

flood inspired [00:25:00] actors, films, directors, musicians, et cetera?

Well, I've got flood sport, or there will be floods. Take your

pick as rubbish. Uh, waders of the Lost Arc, the Drench Connection, G Hour title, recall, or D Drown and Abbey, and they're all of course, directed by Steven Spielberg. Uh, and they will, films will star Burst Reynolds, uh, dam Aykroyd, poor Giamatti, Kristin Bale your

boat out,

Uh, spray Romano

Sidey: uh,

Dan: Uh, spray

Reegs: and Harrison Fjord and the music will be by Sge Gainsborough and

Wave Grow. Nice. Yeah. And then a little nomination on the back of that was we did a cute little trip to the cinema to see Parasite Bong, John Bong June Ho. best picture

winner. And that features a big stormy flood at the

Sidey: Oh, flooding start, isn't it? Yeah, at

Reegs: fills everywhere up. And, uh, none more

so, um, the

than the guy, I think it's the dad. Uh, I've got the actor's name, uh, [00:26:00] the character's name song,

Kang Ho. Um, he sits on a toilet that geezer's shit into his own kitchen, if you remember that.

Um, as a result of the flood. That was right

Dan: Yeah. That was

Sidey: yeah. That was right after COVID, wasn't it?

We got to go out

Dan: we

went

Sidey: Yeah, we went, but it wasn't in

the cinema. It

was um, sevo Hotel. A French guy

Reegs: Stefan.

Cris: Yeah. Stefan. His name is Stefan.

Reegs: Stefan.

Stefan

Sidey: name is Stefan. Stefan. He, brings the funk.

Dan: tell you

Cris: Yeah. Yeah. He loves it. Yeah, he is good. He is. He is a nice guy as well.

Reegs: a great music

Dan: a

Cris: Shout

Sidey: a, he's a nice guy. He's

Dan: Shout

Sidey: Shout out to Stefan.

Nice. Um, credence, Clearwater

revival? I think We've all got a,

um, leki shape, soft

spot of them who'll stop the rain.

And have you ever seen the rain flood adjacent kind of songs there?

Reegs: the

levy breaks.

Sidey: when the levy breaks. Yeah. we, Well, it was originally

Memphis Mini and Kansas. Joe McCoy

Reegs: you go.

Sidey: 1929. What? um, uh, covered by Led Zeppelin in 1971 on Led Zeppelin. Four, I think.

Um, and then when the Levy breaks [00:27:00] also, then

nicked as a song for documentary style by Spike Lee

about Katrina.

Reegs: of

Dan: so

Sidey: Alright. So lots of

levy content there. Um,

Cris: oh God, there's

Reegs: oh God, there's even more. about

Dan: God, there's even

Sidey: oh God, there's even more about Levy wrote

stuff,

Reegs: by Beast Boys and

Sidey: sampled by Beastie Boys and

Eminem. Yeah. Um,

Cris: the whole of

Reegs: whole

Dan: the

Sidey: the whole

of. Side just Two of Hands of Love by Kate

Bush.

Mm-hmm. Um, so she loads up the first half of the album

with all the

hits. So you

Reegs: Hands of love, and um,

Sidey: of Love hands love,

Cris: all that

Reegs: with all that burst

Sidey: the hill, make a deal with God, all that

just cloud bursting on there. The second side, uh, is actually named the Ninth Wave,

and that's a conceptual piece about her imagining herself drowning.

Um, it's not necessarily flooding, but the, that, it's unclear

Reegs: of people

drown in A flood, so she

Sidey: but she, a lot of people drown in the flood so She imagines herself,

um, sort of loss at sea and drowning and

under ice and

stuff. And, [00:28:00] um, it's gray. I saw her perform it live as fucking incredible. Um, find the river

sort of flood coated thing in REM.

Um, I've got a lot of video game ones, but they're

Bit boring really? But, you

know, when the water, level rises in various

levels of like Tomb Raider or Mario Stuff and you have to get around.

Um, I'm just gonna after that. Just

nominate. So over to

you, Dan.

Dan: I will, um, I'll start my nomination with the Poseidon Adventure.

You Remember that Gene Hackman, um, he, he's the preacher

Reegs: Yes.

Sidey: is Lizzie Nelson in that? Yes. Yeah, He's serious at the

Dan: was, um, they're all happily going on a, on a cruise ship and they hit a storm. Um, it's a huge squa of something that, that just tips over the boat and it flips the, this huge cruise ship.

Reegs: top down,

Dan: Top down, um, everything's upside down.

The huge chandelier and everything, um, in the ballroom and this posh kind of, uh, new Year's party is [00:29:00] turned upside down. You've got all the people in there,

Reegs: their finery, wns in

Dan: they ball gowns and they're finery.

Um, and,

uh, he is a hard drinking and no nonsense smoking preacher

Reegs: to That's

Dan: who

tends to Take the advantage or not the advantage.

He tends to take the lead really and, and help people get the advantage on, on the situation because

Sidey: because

Dan: there's

Sidey: there's.

Dan: a lot of nervous people. There's injured people, there's people that

Reegs: they kind

Dan: as they kind of go up almost like a video game, they go up the levels That's right. To get under the hole and have to try and get to the top.

They lose people on the way and you're like, oh no, not that person. And they've got jump over a bit and

Reegs: they

remade it

I don't remade it. Did you

Dan: They remade it

Reegs: liked it. I got a real soft spot for It They did it. And Gene

Dan: Yeah. But not as well.

Reegs: well, I think.

Dan: one as well,

Sidey: one as well, I

Cris: when I,

Dan: But this, when I, I'm thinking the original.

Yeah. Um, [00:30:00] gene Hackman one.

Sidey: one.

Cris: a,

Dan: was just, uh, almost like a a Christmas movie, but it was one of the Yeah. You know, they had the infer, the Great Inferno and disa, you know, disaster movies at the time of the late, sort of sixties, seventies, eighties and things. This was one of the, the better ones, the Poseidon Adventure.

Um, and the boat was flooding, um, and time was running out and he was able to save, um, a few of those that were brave enough to follow his leadership.

Sidey: leadership.

Cris: what a guy. Yeah.

Dan: Gene.

Reegs: a guy. Yeah.

Dan: go for that. Yeah. What a guy.

Sidey: What a guy. Yeah. Great

Cris: Kingsman, the first one,

Dan: Kingsman,

Cris: the film with 'em, with

Dan: the film

Cris: the

Tara Negative, tn and the other one, the, yes.

Colin Firth. Um, there's a scene where they,

Dan: there's a scene where I like both of them.

Pardon? I like both of them. Tn ton yeah, In,

Cris: like them both. The, there is a scene where they do a test when he's trying to become [00:31:00] lunch a lot, and he, they flood the room, uh, and he breaks through the window

Dan: breaks through the

Cris: and there's, it's a test for him to, to get into the Kingsman services.

And there's him and all the other students. They're basically in a, in a classroom and they flood the room. Yeah. And he breaks the window and he gets them out. But in the end, one of the students is dead. And then obviously at the end we find out that that was not necessarily, she wasn't dead, she was just a asset from Berlin or something like that.

Uh, and, uh, I, I thought that was quite interesting because they actually,

Sidey: that was quite

Cris: a test. They do literally flood the room and, and they find, well, the. Whatever his name is. Tarn finds a way out and my norm is going to be the fortress of Eising. Guard gets flooded by the trees.

Dan: flooded

Sidey: flooded

Reegs: This is,

um, your thing Lord of the Lord of The girls.

Girls. Yeah. Two towers.

Sidey: Lord of the girls, two towers,

Cris: towers, the ants.

Dan: of the

Sidey: the Lord is ring

Reegs: Oh yeah. They do, don't they? They

Cris: Yes. They break the [00:32:00] dam

Sidey: break the dam Yes, they break the because they're all getting

burnt and um, tree beard doesn't

Reegs: the, he only gets involved though when they point out

that the other tree because he, they show them

Dan: they didn't give

Sidey: he doesn't give a fuck about any

other races.

Yeah, exactly. He's very, um, '

Reegs: cause he, it's when they, he basically takes 'em to show all the

trees have been cut down. That's

Cris: yeah, when they get to the end of the

Sidey: shit. So Yeah.

When did they

Dan: the He's got a line.

Sidey: got a line.

Dan: And They've

Reegs: But First they came for the,

Sidey: at first they came for

Reegs: trans people, but I wasn't trans so I didn't, so then they came for the trees, but I wasn't a

tree.

Dan: But I

Sidey: trees,

Cris: was a

Reegs: he was a tree. Exactly. Exactly. Chris, we're all trees,

Dan: we're all trees,

Cris: and that's my norm.

Reegs: that's my norm.

Dan: and

Cris: The, two towers.

Reegs: things a tree Yeah.

Sidey: You transitioning into tree?

Dan: And any, uh, flood lights,

Reegs: that's good to

bring that up now at the end, just as We're finishing. But Yeah. that's a good thought out

Dan: there you go People out there,

Reegs: imagine if you've given it like

Sidey: I had, imagine you, I had floods of tears, like

all that sort of stuff.

but I

Cris: I've

Reegs: I've torn

between two. I'm gonna have to mention them both, just 'cause they're both brilliant. The Simpsons has the one where [00:33:00] Homer, um, he tries to make a flat pack barbecue and accidentally becomes like an

art sensation. And, uh, he's trying to, do you remember that? And, he's

trying to, follow it up.

Um, and he doesn't, in the end, I think he breaks a water tower and fills the hole of Springfield. that

becomes his sort of, um, Venice style modernist art installation.

And then

of course, my actual nomination then is,

uh, at the climax of O Brother. Where art Thou Yeah, they blow the dam

and, uh, it's

like a day Sx Mackin. a moment to save the boys as they're about to be lynched by Satan himself.

Uh, the Valley

floods and, uh, they're all, shout out to

Dan: Shout out to the Dambusters.

Reegs: Be another one.

Dan: Be another one

Sidey: another one bouncing bombs.

Cris: Uh, it was record

Reegs: record

store

Sidey: it was record store day

on Saturday. Okay. that's fine. Um, I spent

Dan: some money, X amount

of money, spent

Sidey: of money. I spent

some money on that. And uh, one of the things I bought

was,

um, a

Reegs: Box set. Okay.

Sidey: band box set. Okay.

Um, this song [00:34:00] isn't on that, but the song is

from the album.

Greetings from Asbury Park

and the box set was them live.

in Asbury Park in

2024. Uh, there's track two on the Asbury Park

album. It's called Lost

in the Flood, and it's fucking great. Um, there's no actual flooding in its mess. Four for Vietnam. Urban

Decay, lost Faith, American collapse.

Um, and this was back

in 1973. Uh, it's fucking great.

Um, and if you were to listen

to

there's a, there's another live recording from Hammersmith Odin, 1975 It's track four on there. It's Fucking brilliant. Um, that whole album is incredible. So yeah, E Street

Band.

Reegs: flood.

Nice.

Cris: to

Sidey: flood. Nice. Good.

Reegs: flood, We just need that

Sidey: a and other flood you could have a flood light, you could have a few favorite flood light or your, or your

flood with tears or any interpretation on

flooding.

We really went

just

Dan: wet

Reegs: we did. I think it's 'cause of the main feature this week really steered me down that path.

Sidey: week. yeah, Yeah. Um, so yeah, just give us your favorite

flood.

Cris: be

Reegs: hope there would be [00:35:00]

Dan: I hope they would be flooding in.

Cris: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: Right.

Reegs: Right. Crack straight through so we can get to the football.

Sidey: Crack straight through so we can get to the football. Yeah.

Cris: feature flow.

Dan: Right. Main

Reegs: flow,

Sidey: feature flow. I,

this has been

on my radar for a little while. I'd never seen it before. It's 2024. so It's fairly new. Um,

it's an animated feature

and it's not a silent movie, but there is no

human dialogue in

Reegs: there are only animals. it's animal centric. And once, once more. quite unusually.

These are animals that.

Sidey: These

are

Reegs: Behave like real animals. There's no Pixar style anthropomorphic,

Sidey: style anthropomorphic,

Reegs: warthogs or that sort of thing? in this? no. Like

Sidey: that sort of thing?

Reegs: is

Sidey: no. Like light

Reegs: behave like little animals.

Dan: like

Sidey: behave like little

animals. No.

Dan: Okay. It

Sidey: Okay. It was kind of

introduced first. to

Reegs: Oh. And just probably very quickly, because it's animation, we should talk a bit about how it looks. 'cause it has a

particular.

Sidey: how it looks. 'cause it

Reegs: painterly, [00:36:00] sell shaded

style, that still works quite well considering

Sidey: well considering it sort of, I was getting

sort of

Reegs: sequence Yeah. To it at the beginning.

Especially

Sidey: But I don't mean that at the beginning. I don't mean that in, a, in like in a derogatory

sense.

That's just what it reminded

Cris: I thought it was just a.

Reegs: was just

a,

Dan: it

Cris: Yeah. Like you say, more of a pixelated, like

Dan: you say, more of

Cris: generated

Dan: pixelated, like a

Sidey: pixelated, like a computer generated

Thing. And then when you sort of learn

about it, they made this with free to use software blender. Yeah. I

Reegs: blender for 3D modeling.

So, so then they

Sidey: 3D modeling.

So then they did, so sort of, they, You could make this for free. They obviously

had a budget, but they used this software,

Reegs: and it started as a short, that the director, a guy called, he's got a

pretty cool name, gin Z

be because

Sidey: name,

Dan: Z be

Sidey: Zilo

Reegs: He's Latvian, Yeah, yeah, So he made a, he's very

young and he made a, a short in 2012, uh, about a cat overcoming its fear of water. And then

Sidey: of [00:37:00] water.

And then, um,

Reegs: worked with a team of 45 people to make this. Yeah.

Sidey: this. Yeah.

Reegs: and he was just there a lot for

Dan: just, is that a lot for a film, do you think?

Not an animation.

Sidey: quite, I think That's not, when you look at this, 'cause this obviously looks top,

um, it doesn't look cheap or amateurish

the way it's put together. So I'd say that's quite a

small crew. When

Dan: doesn't

Reegs: who's involved in it as well.

Right. So not everybody that is an animator. It's musicians storyboard, hr. I mean, you know, it's all that sort thing,

you Pixar thing,

Sidey: it's all, when you look at a Pixar thing and you've got thousands of

Reegs: they outsource a huge amount of that stuff to like other animation houses as

well, like hundreds of Koreans and Chinese. Anyway. Um, but, and the other, only other thing as well, of course,

is that he's from Latvia, which is a country of 2 million people. Um, so this film made a big impression, I think, for that country.

Uh, and just 30 years old as well

when it was released.

Sidey: old as well when it was Christ. Um, it is.

Cris: kind of

Dan: we're not

Sidey: we're not

kind of

sure exactly where we are first when we land in [00:38:00] the world of flow.

Um, we've meet a cat, uh, and there is some water around

Cris: but it's in a forest.

Reegs: in a

Sidey: no people, but, but it's in

a forest. it's Yeah. it, It's It's, rural and, but you kind of like, oh, we

don't really know what's going on. And then it just sort of becomes clear

that there's, there's various sort of cat

statues at first They're small. And then

Reegs: There's an enormous one. Like,

Sidey: gigantic ones. an enormous one. Nature one. So there's

Cris: I thought initially they were turned into stone

Reegs: stone by

Cris: by some mythical

Sidey: Yeah.

'cause at first they're, they're, they're just the same size as the cat. Yeah. So I thought, oh,

Reegs: that the world is left very vague. for you to just

Sidey: vague. It's really ambiguous. like it's all, '

Reegs: part of the fun.

Something '

Dan: cause then

Sidey: that's because then we, do, we do see a giant one. I thought, oh,

the, there's some sort of cat worship. going on. Yeah. But we ne

there's never, a

Reegs: the closest reference to that is 'cause the cat, the first thing

that we meet is the cat

Sidey: is a, drawing in the house, meets

Reegs: a

pack of dogs. Yeah. Um, hiding from it, um, showing off a bit of skills to get away.

And then it

comes back to its house and goes back [00:39:00] inside. And it, like you say, there's a drawing. It's obviously humans, have been there

Sidey: obvious when it goes in through a broken window, doesn't it? So it's an abandoned

house. Um, and there is a doodle of

a, of a

cat. on a kind of

Reegs: thing. Mm-hmm.

Sidey: work bench type thing. Um, and it just chills

Reegs: And it does look out to

see a sailboat stuck up in the trees, which will be important because obviously

they, we know there's going to be a flood. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, it's obviously happened before. Um,

so, uh, it that's when it heads down to go and get some food, doesn't, it It goes down to a stream to catch a fish.

Yeah. And, uh, there's a bunch of dogs there.

Um, well,

Cris: catch the fish. Someone else catches the fish and she just

Sidey: someone else catches the

Cris: tries to eat it. Sandwich. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: tries to scavenge. Yeah. Yeah.

And there there's also a sort of,

when things start

Reegs: towards the fact

Dan: moving

Sidey: moving towards the flood, there's like a,

a charge of

Reegs: all the dogs

come running.

They, they go running past and then they come running back. And all these birds doing like, oh, what's the problem? And then you think, and then there's like a [00:40:00] stampede of.

these.

So all we are seeing

Dan: all we're seeing is just images, and animals. And you are looking at their behavior and, and then understanding

Cris: on.

Yeah. And the cat occasionally meows.

Dan: there's something

Sidey: we're focused on the

cat. Yeah. Meows or you're focused on the cat, but you're not seeing it

from the cat's perspective. There's like just a dynamic camera

Reegs: And the

beginning's pretty breakneck as well. And the movie's got quite a good pace about it because the cat is essentially quite often in peril.

Um, so as it will be in this mix, all these things come charging back. You think it's gonna get like mufa or wherever and stampeded to death and then an enormous thing of

water.

Just fucking Yeah. Barrels through and just fills everything up like straight away a tsunami.

Sidey: straight away tsunami.

Reegs: so they scramble to higher

ground

Sidey: they scrambled to

Reegs: and,

Dan: and,

uh, the

Reegs: climb up

Sidey: and uh, the

cat has to climb up onto this enormous cat statue.

Um, sort of stands on the head bit in between

the two ears.

Reegs: the first bit is actually [00:41:00] the.

the. dog. One of the dogs gets separated from the other dogs, these dogs that have

been chasing him and follows her back. The water's not

quite at that level yet. She goes back to her house and the dog's following

her. 'cause the dog's suddenly like, doesn't wanna be by itself

Sidey: the Labrador

Reegs: really sad. So it follows the cat and the cat's

like, but he's trying to stay out of its eye line. But also the cat knows that he is there, but it doesn't give a shit because when he gets

back to his house, jumps right up and the dog can't do it and he's just stuck

outside like a dumb ass while the cat's inside

sort of looking

Sidey: the cat's inside

Reegs: then the water starts to rise again and you are like, mm, there's a bit few problems

there.

Dan: few problems

Sidey: problems

there.

Reegs: what she

Dan: Yeah. that's

Sidey: Yeah. That's what

she takes. I'm saying she we don't mean

we dunno, it's

just cat, a cat. Cat,

Reegs: Dunno if it eventually

Dan: Dunno if it's a, eventually

Sidey: eventually it's sort like life, of pie, like a like a

boat. A little ship, little sailboat comes past.

Um, and the cat's sort of looking at

it thinking, and I'm thinking. cat's, you

know,

Reegs: There's a lot of peril. Like we've seen this the cat statue up on the mountain now the whole valley's flooded. She's right up on [00:42:00] the,

Sidey: flooded.

She's

Reegs: on its ears. Yeah.

Like the very tip of it. Like It's gonna drown. And

Sidey: else to go. It's gonna

Reegs: straight into the

boat.

Sidey: yeah, straight

Cris: just, and that's where Cap Barra

Sidey: Yeah. just has to make a break for it. Love what Cap Barra is. And there's the cap bar.

Reegs: She's like absolutely instantly terrified and sing at it. And it's just like

eating flies and falling asleep and that

Dan: Kappy bar's a like, they can. They're pretty chill and they can yeah, it's pretty

Sidey: Yeah, it's pretty chill in the

Reegs: he's the chillest character in the film.

He's really nice.

Dan: film. Yeah. They they, they can, they can swim. Um, hold the breath light 20

Reegs: oh, well that will come into play, Dan, actually. Yeah.

Dan: Oh, okay.

Reegs: he's,

Dan: Excellent. Yeah,

Sidey: Yeah, he's um, he's just vibing. He's just

Reegs: The cat's really un uh, the,

Dan: never mind me.

Reegs: Capy bar is really just like unbothered about absolutely everything, isn't it?

Yeah.

Sidey: about absolutely everything,

isn't it? yeah, He is like, here I am,

Reegs: starts to

Dan: Pretty chill. It

Sidey: chill. out. it starts to rain

at one point

Dan: strange, looking

Sidey: says sort of like drags the cat under the

little undercover, bit. It's like.

let's come chill on here.

Reegs: So they end up sort of going through, um, the forest through this

boat as the waters continue to [00:43:00] rise, in. the

forests have emerge

Sidey: You see the odd bird, what

Dan: is it kind of a, uh, a fast flowing river or is it just cruising along

Sidey: pretty at this point?

this, The water level

has got to its

Dan: Okay. And they're,

Sidey: Yeah. Okay. And they're

Dan: just

floating

Reegs: It's like a magnificent shot actually, when she's right at the top of the Cady is as it's as the water is at its peak.

And this like leviathan, I guess

Cris: huge

Sidey: I

Reegs: prehistoric

aquatic whale Thing comes breaching out the water.

What

Sidey: out the

Dan: what you, you mentioned it's 30 years old. This,

Reegs: you wouldn't No,

Dan: is that right? you wouldn't

you wouldn't

Sidey: you wouldn't

Reegs: 20,

24, 2

Sidey: 23 years, 22 years old. Oh,

Dan: years

Reegs: the director's. 30,

Dan: The director's 30, 30 months old. He, he's 30. Yeah. What kind of the, what is the kind of animation I'm looking? because I'm

Sidey: I'm so of video game. It's not

Reegs: look like, a Pixar film

Sidey: not like, it doesn't look like a Pixar film.

Reegs: The, the, the, it's cell shaded, which is

they draw like filled in around the outsides of [00:44:00] cells. So, but it's also got a kind of brush stroke type quality to it as well. Okay. So

it looks

Cris: yeah, it does

Reegs: It, does yeah. It looks super.

Dan: That's

Sidey: That looks great.

Reegs: so yeah, they say when

Dan: so yeah, they say

Sidey: yeah, but they, so when you see that giant whale leviathan

thing, that to me meant,

not that it matters, it doesn't really matter at all, but

it's not,

it's not

earth. I, It wasn't like

Reegs: I don't know. But It could mean lots of things. It

could mean that humans have been gone for a long, long time. like, I don't

Sidey: yeah. True. Yeah. True. Like, I don't know. that, That sort of part of the world is like

Reegs: great. It just leaves a

Cris: especially because we always see in the distance, the towers, the, the, these tower like

Reegs: like, fingers

Dan: power

Cris: tower like structures that are made out of rock.

So, so it's not, you don't think they're,

Reegs: think

Sidey: So it's not,

Dan: think they're,

Reegs: they're sort of the water is all heading

Sidey: to get there.

Reegs: almost looks like

fingers extending

Cris: but really long and tall. Yeah.

Dan: long

Sidey: long

Reegs: and so they go through like, it's really quite relentless. This part as the cat like escapes nearly drowning, uh, [00:45:00] getting picked up by the, um, bird at one point.

Sidey: The, leviathan

Reegs: leviathan helps it when it gets struggled. Like

it drowns

Cris: because of the current Yeah.

Sidey: and it lift it back

Reegs: the top. And then it's

picked up by a bird and fought over by a bird and thrown around.

Sidey: gotta get the, the full crew in the boat.

Reegs: the dog and

they pick up a, it's amazing. The bird just,

There's when he's about to be killed by another of those

secretary birds. Uh, this other bird steps in to save him.

And they have this horrible fight. That's great. man. And then she breaks her

wing so she can't fly anymore. They to get, to

Dan: find, they get they

Sidey: get they do get to point where there's

loads of these secretary birds. Yeah. And they're like, oh, they're

just gonna

like, kill the cat. Yeah.

And this, because this Secretary Bird has

somehow made a connection with this

group stands up to them and They just

Reegs: really horrible.

Sidey: just fucking stamp.

Cris: as it's

Sidey: Like stamp on

Dan: as it's kind of put its wing over the, the cat or something to protect it.

Reegs: it. Yeah. So they end up

this like, bitch, [00:46:00] that bird ends up driving the ship. It's

amazing.

Cris: with one, yeah, with one leg, but

Reegs: one But they're still behaving like animals. It's not

Sidey: behaving like animals. It's

Reegs: It's not cutesy pix up, you

Dan: Pixar.

Cris: birds. The dog is quite silly. He doesn't know exactly. They've got the lemur,

Sidey: It's dope.

Yeah.

Cris: kings that round with the round tail with the, yeah. Black

Dan: tail with, yeah.

Cris: the lemur who,

Dan: Yeah. The, the lemur ring tail. who

Cris: his treasures. He

Sidey: who, he loves his

Cris: there's loads of lemurs along the journey, but not, and basically these are all outcasts of their own kind of.

People if you want, because the Labrador and his dog mates, dog mates just fuck it all up when they pick them up. Eventually they just,

Dan: they pick

Reegs: you can see when

the, the, the, that dog is just doing what the rest of the dogs are doing. He's not as vicious as the rest of them.

So when they come back

Cris: he just kind of becomes a dog again with other idiot dogs.

All the secretary birds are, he,

Sidey: all the

Cris: an out, not an outcast, but a different way of the Secretary Bird. The cafe bar is the only one that's pretty much

Dan: cafe bar is

Sidey: cafe bar

Cris: as a, [00:47:00] species. He doesn't meet anyone and the cat doesn't meet any other cats. Yeah. These are the only ones

Reegs: the, but they're sort of Misfits the

Cris: That's kind of the idea, right? That he's

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of the idea, right. The Lehman's got his mirrors and he loves his mirror. He is Got his basket

of stuff that he's found

in the house, and then the cafe bar drags it

onto the boat. He's like, come on, you can't stay here.

You know, as if he's saying that to

him and he is like, oh God, I've gotta go where my treasures

go And He's just obsessed with this mirror. Eventually

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: the only like the, the bird.

Sidey: it. Yeah. So

Cris: Navigates the, the drives the boat because the bird knows, because he's seen from above and he's used to standing on one leg anyway. Right. So he just kind of does that all the time.

Sidey: So he just

Reegs: The

cat's trying to do

Cris: The cat's trying to do it,

Reegs: trying to stand on one leg, the cat, they

Sidey: the cat's trying to do it.

Cris: a bit like, what am I doing? And then there's all these episodes where they're animals, right? So they don't,

Dan: they're

Sidey: where

Reegs: they, although that's the fir where

she, the first time they used the rudder, it's like an accident.

But when you are

watching the shot, if you realize like she sort of leans on

it and the boat starts turning, but if she hadn't have done that, they'd have smacked straight into a wall. So it's got [00:48:00] this feeling of kind of being guided along the whole time.

Like all these people coming together and all the movements, um, where do they get to?

'cause eventually the boat will

get, they '

Sidey: cause eventually the boat, well, they come to, they come to this huge kind of citadel

Cris: yeah, the Castle Lee thing, right?

Dan: yeah, the

Sidey: Yeah. the Castle Lead thing, They go through that, that's where they meet those other stupid dogs. That

they've, they're the same dogs from the start. And

um, they, Some of the animals are like,

nah.

You

Reegs: leave it. Leave the dogs. Yeah.

Sidey: leave them and leave the dogs. Yeah. And

they're, they're whining and like, oh, we're not really bad dogs. You know what I mean?

They're going on. So they eventually the cat's like, come on, we'll

fucking pick 'em up. So they

just nudge the, the rudder over and they pick

up his dogs and they instantly balance. Yeah. And Just

before this, the

cat has, has learnt. How to hunt. Yeah. She's she's going into the water with is this little montage

where fishing and the really bright colored, tropical fish.

and She makes a big pile of 'em

Reegs: and she gives a fish to everyone, shares

them

Dan: them

Sidey: dishes them out, She shares them out and they fucking TWA dog

just comes in.

As soon as the rescue eats the whole

lot, you're like, You're such a

dick. Yeah.

Cris: yeah,

Reegs: [00:49:00] Yeah. You don't know the dynamic.

Dan: know the dynamic.

Reegs: and even the Labrador

looks a bit embarrassed by

Cris: and they go into, towards these tower like structures and did they get the choppy waters and not

Sidey: they

Reegs: just

choppy. It's a massive storm, isn't it? It's a huge storm.

Just as

Sidey: it?

And the rudder breaks just as they get into it.

Yeah. Um, the cafe bar

is on it that point.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: it's in his mouth He's like, oh,

Reegs: Uh, the cat goes overboard,

uh, at this point, doesn't it? And then gets, um, luckily it's quite close to shore.

The bird,

Dan: quite close to

Reegs: to fly

Dan: bird's

Sidey: the bird's able to fly just enough with its

dodgy wing to one of these towers when they get there. Yeah. And the cat's sort of watching.

Oh fuck. You know? Um,

Cris: this

Reegs: this

Sidey: and it's this enormous

um, just straight up fucking stone

tower, but A pathway has been carved like a spiral all the way around the outside of

it. Right. To the very top. Um, and the cat eventually manages

Reegs: Yeah. To the very top. Yeah.

Dan: To the very

Sidey: Yeah. The R top. Yeah. And we watch it, you know, climb all the [00:50:00] way to the top

Reegs: seen the, the, there's been the aurora

borealis going on a few times. Yeah. But now it starts like locally

at the top of the, this was the only bit of the movie I didn't really understand. Yeah, exactly. Localized New York kitchen. It starts at

the top of the mountain

and the the like, there's this bright white light and they start ascending, gravity fails and they start sort of ascending up and the bird disappears

Sidey: the

birds disappears

Cris: like a sacrifice, right? Yeah. Like you need to sacrifice someone

Sidey: Then there's, there was a short sacrifice someone for the good of the others There was a short then

from. Looking down like

almost like

a drone shot. And there are ruins

kind of carved into Yes. The base of

it. So this is some sort of holy site or something you don't really know Uh, we really

dunno.

Um, so the cat legs it back down

Cris: And he gets on the buoy.

Dan: And

Sidey: boat again. And he gets on The,

Cris: the cow gets on the buoy and then gets to the boat

Sidey: buoy and then gets to

Reegs: and they, it it finds, um, 'cause the bird had been a dick earlier. It got pissed off about something and kicked the [00:51:00] lemurs thing

off into The water. Yeah. And it clings onto

Cris: Yeah.

the, ball.

Reegs: The

Sidey: Oh, that ball, the ball. in And the net. Yeah. And

Reegs: every bit of this

Sidey: It's like every

Reegs: foreshadowing just pays off with little

bits that, you know, somebody drops this, or when the mirror breaks and it guts the, uh, the the leurs really gutted

and all that.

Um, so anyway, yeah, Uh, he finds his way

Sidey: he does. he finds

Reegs: is it. where he's just clinging onto it and the cat's

like you've, it's

got nothing left.

Now it's just clinging on like its eyes are going like, oh God, it's gonna

Sidey: falls asleep, isn't it, Yeah. Oh

Reegs: just water everywhere. And then suddenly the water starts

to, like, there's a tree? You see the top of

Cris: It just start,

Reegs: emerging and the water starts draining down,

Sidey: water starts

Reegs: the cat's gonna be okay

Cris: because that was the sacrifice, right.

Of the bird.

Sidey: was the sacrifice, right? Of

Reegs: So, uh, everything's drained away and they're on the forest floor

again. And she goes, she runs around to find the Labrador and,

Dan: Labrador and,

Reegs: And the Capybara, which she's happy about. But then no, they

Sidey: about.

But then no, they have to rescue the cap bar

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: find

the,

Reegs: it the, Leviathan [00:52:00] First. Oh no. It's the, it's the, they have

Sidey: first. Oh no, it's, it's, they have to, they have

to, they have to,

work as a team to, that's

Cris: the

boat is in the, tree? No,

Dan: rope,

Sidey: guide rope thing for the

boat. the tree. No. And yeah, And they, they have to sort of like a swing, um, work The,

Cris: to

Reegs: of rope to

get the

Sidey: the sort of rope to get the boat to swing in the tree, to get the Capy bar able, 'cause you can't jump very

Reegs: and the dog's nearly fuck it up again.

The

Sidey: the cat the fuck it up again. The cat has to actually get in

and, and it, as it kind of goes, cause the tree's about to fall off,

Reegs: the water. Well the earth is split.

Sidey: where The

Reegs: crust of the earth is split.

Sidey: the earth is split and it, it's it's going. Yeah. And, And, it's the Cafe Barra who, who

manages to lean over the side and catch the cat before

it falls.

Um, so it's really teamwork.

Everyone

Cris: back on. Well, no, because now is the dog, the capra and the cat.

Yeah. And then they go on a, like the cat goes on

Sidey: go on

Dan: cat

Reegs: the

cat suddenly gets spooked and legs. it. Yeah. And you're Like, oh, what's going on? And

then he's realized, he goes around the corner and in a clearing in the forest, there's the leviathan

just [00:53:00] lying there. dying. Dying. Yeah. Yeah. Because

Sidey: Just dying. Yeah.

Reegs: away and

Cris: And it's

Reegs: her head against it

Cris: breathe. You can hear it breathing on,

Sidey: honestly. Just barely breathe. You

Reegs: you hear it

stop

Sidey: can hear It's like taking like really labored breath.

Yeah.

Reegs: she goes

to, you know, be with

it while it dies,

Fuck. You know?

Cris: Uh, and then goes to see the, in another clearing is the lemurs.

Sidey: see that in

Cris: And now her pals the lemur.

Reegs: about

Dan: pal

Sidey: it's like, this is like Madagascar. It's like King Louis.

Dan: is like a kids film or

Reegs: and this is a film for anybody. It's, a

Sidey: It's a fa a film for anybody. It is a family film, It's like, yeah, my daughter's watching it she goes, is this about climate change? So it's like, wow, you're actually thinking

about something that you're watching,

Reegs: I just because we can get into that, but it just wraps up with all of the people looking down, people, the animals looking down into a puddle, just as the cat had at the beginning on her own.

But now

she looks with her friends and that is the

confirmed interpretation, if you like, from the director, that it's really just about finding that it's easier to do things in life with other

people than it is to do things on your own. [00:54:00] But you are right,

you can

imprint so much else, the climate change thing onto it.

Whatever you

want to, if you want

Sidey: it.

Yeah. Whatever

Reegs: read more things

Dan: because I, I'm, I'm listening to you talking about this and I hadn't seen the, the film, but

Reegs: remember the Red

Dan: I remember the red turtle, which was

the

Reegs: really,

Sidey: many parallels.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Because, um, um, it's got that kind of vibe. You'd love this,

Sidey: You'd

Reegs: it to me. And it sounds like

Dan: to me. And it sounds like something that I'm gonna watch with, with, um, the family, to be honest, because I love those films that just get you.

Reegs: Thinking through

Dan: Thinking through imagery and through that visual storytelling.

Reegs: it's amazing they can keep your attention for an hour and 20 minutes with, with,

you know, no an no,

Dan: minimal.

Reegs: no talking,

um, you know, no interior monologue.

So every state that you infer the cat's eyes, it's just in their eyes or

Sidey: eyes give you so much or how

they're behaving

Reegs: brilliant. It doesn't drag at all.

Dan: drag

Cris: it's

Reegs: And it's just like

Dan: And it's just [00:55:00] like that kind of thing, as you said, it is, you are. inference on what an animal is thinking. Yeah. Or what, you know, just through the behavior the the look of its eyes, its its body language or whatever. And we do have that within us in our day to day lives where we are just, you can tell if an animal's happy or, or sad or if it, you know, all those kind of things and just basic needs.

we're,

Cris: kind of tuned in to

Reegs: in to do anyway.

Dan: do anyway. Um, so it's brilliant when an animation can make that

Sidey: make that capture that

Dan: happen. as well.

Sidey: this yeah, it's, it is like, it's quite poetic, the film. really

Um, it's really excellent. There is a

Cris: Is it?

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: bit, Do you see that? Yes. Yeah. With the Levi, Yeah, with the

Leviathan swimming around.

Reegs: know if it was another one or a

Sidey: it was just didn't, it was just A clip. Another one. It was just a clip of one or the same

one

from earlier or,

it, there'd been another flood and it hadn't died, I'm sure it had actually died,

but, um, just a nice bit of,

you

Reegs: he has had multiple

opportunities to, uh, create a sequel to this and he [00:56:00] says he will not

do it because it's, you know, and Hollywood has come, uh, asking for this guy and he has apparently knocked them back

and said he wants to do his own.

He wants the creative freedom to do his

own thing. Um, it's certainly off the back of this, it looks

like he's earned that. Yeah. Um, definitely. I think you'd

Sidey: definitely. I think you'd get

such a

Dan: Yeah.

Well it

sounds definitely one that I, I shall Hunt down and

um,

Cris: Yeah, I I really like this.

This was a breeze. No words. No nothing. I watched it with Kara and she's like, oh, it made me really sad. I'm like, what did you make you sad? They all survived. Everyone's happy.

Sidey: all survived.

Dan: happy. Apart

from the bird,

Cris: birds

Sidey: bird,

Reegs: the birds

Cris: ascended. The ascended. Yeah. It's, yeah, I

Sidey: ascended the rapture into heaven or

Cris: yeah, and it's also

Sidey: but yeah,

Cris: it's really interesting because obviously Carol loves cats.

So it was more that, for me, it was also the fact that at the beginning, the cats detests water, because that's what most of them do. But then it learns how to catch fish and how to, and he just,

Sidey: to catch [00:57:00]

Cris: go, the car goes diving, like proper diving, looking at the colorful fish and all that, and spends time on the water now.

So it's adapted to its environment. It, it is really, and colors are great. Uh, it is really good. I, I really liked

Sidey: great. it.

is really good. I, I really They, they recorded. reel animal sounds Yeah. For it. Um, did you see about the kava? Yeah,

They went, they went to the zoo and tickled

the cava to

Reegs: but the, the noise that it made was too

Sidey: didn't like it It made was too

Dan: quite right.

Reegs: and so they used the

camel

Sidey: he was a camel.

Reegs: cat's voice?

mute,

Sidey: cat's voice mute. muted. Yeah. The, It was the

sound engine, his own cat that they recorded. Okay.

Um,

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: it's quite, quite, because obviously I, I've never heard a cafe bar speak, but uh, I would imagine that's how it would sound, sound

Dan: imagine

Sidey: I would

Cris: But what was the stress? What it farted or

Dan: was the

Sidey: it won. What was distress? was it farted or something or, yeah.

Uh.

Cris: there,

Reegs: there there

Sidey: I'll tell you

Dan: there, there was, um, just while you are, you are about to, um, [00:58:00] talk about that.

There was, uh, a thing I meant to mention earlier where I'd watched this video of this Japanese professor who apparently has interpreted birds, um, talking and talking.

Sidey: Talking

Talk

Reegs: Yeah. but aren't they mostly telling Each other to fuck off and stuff or

that's mine Robinson

Cris: no,

Sidey: Or Robin's zero, robin's real twice.

Dan: shit's

Sidey: that

shit's

Dan: off.

Reegs: Come

closer.

Dan: Come closer. Don't go any further. And that just, with, it, he's been able, I mean, I dunno how true it is because I didn't watch it all in depth was, it was

Sidey: he is got a professor in

Reegs: it's pretty, obvious some stuff, like when I get, there's bird in my

back garden and when I go out, They all start, going mad.

They're going some dickheads coming out. Yeah. Watch out for the dickheads. Well,

Dan: out for the dickhead. Well, this is it. So they, but he's been, he's just like studied them long enough and listen to the nuances and,

Cris: behavior

Reegs: behavior

Dan: Looked at a

Sidey: then made it all up

Dan: and then made enough up that I'm watching YouTube videos on him.

Sidey: on it. Uh, this one, the best animated feature at the 2025.

[00:59:00] Uh, it was the 97th Academy Awards. Wow. Uh, it

beat, um, inside out two.

Reegs: brilliant

It really is

Sidey: And it's brilliant. Pleasingly was the grommet as

Dan: it makes me think that the 100th Academy Awards is coming up in just a few years time as well.

Sidey: as well.

Uh, two years time. Um, yeah, this is fucking excellent. Really, really good.

Reegs: recommended.

Cris: strongest recommend.

Very

Dan: Strongest recommend. Okay.

Sidey: good. Very

good.

Reegs: had,

Dan: Wow.

We've had,

Sidey: We've had,

Cris: absolute,

Dan: an absolute

Cris: you don't remember, but it was underwater. A

Sidey: of You don't remember,

Cris: water.

Dan: A flood of emotion and high praise.

Sidey: high praise. Yeah. Um.

Cris: uh, that wraps

Reegs: wrap wraps up

Cris: another

Dan: that wraps

Sidey: that wraps up

Reegs: Well done.

Sidey, Um, you know,

Dan: everyone. yeah. Good choices. Strong recommends

Reegs: so that's good. Yeah.

Dan: Nice. Yeah.

Um,

Reegs: mom, Somebody's

Sidey: someone's norms next week, who's normally

Cris: No

Reegs: No doubt they'll

Sidey: and we'll, we'll

Dan: No doubt they'll be even better than this week.

Reegs: That'll be hard, to be

Sidey: Let's hope so. [01:00:00] That'll be hard to be

Reegs: what we're all about.

Dan: that's what we're all about. Being hard.

Reegs: Yeah. Um,

all that remains is to

Sidey: Yeah. Um, all that remains is to say society's signing

Cris: Lot of it. Did I

Dan: Dan's gone

Sidey: gone lot of

Reegs: I can't even remember what I say. anymore time's

Dan: what I

Cris: Riggs has left the

Sidey: Simon's gone.

Reegs: That's

the

Cris: that's the one

Sidey: the building. That's the

ones the one.

Cris: stopped for a big.