Floods & Flow

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Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast that is to cultural enrichment as a stool sample is to a cheese board. This week we're completely out of our depth with the top 5 floods, the event every major religion reached for independently when they needed to explain what happens when God stopped giving a shit about his own creations. We'll be generating more uncontrolled discharge than Curry Night at a care home, more catastrophic overflow than the average NHS waiting list, and more unsolicited moisture than Dan's handshake. Letting the cat out of the bag for our main feature, it's Oscar-winning Latvian animated film Flow, in which a cat survives a catastrophic flood, accompanied by a capybara, a lima, and a large dog. No humans, no explanation, and no dialogue, and yet it still managed to say more of worth than Nigel Farage has said in 30 years of public life. Listeners are advised that the following programme contains strong language, scenes of spoilers some may find distressing in content of an aquatic nature that the Bad Dad's editorial guidelines were not designed to anticipate, if indeed such a thing even existed. Listener discretion is advised, though frankly, if you had any, he wouldn't be here in the first place. Before the levy breaks entirely, let's meet this week's collection of human sandbags, starting with Dan. He's so old he remembers telling Noah that two of everything was excessive. It was, yeah?

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I'm tired of telling.

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You tried to tell him. You wouldn't listen. His fucks went extinct so long ago they don't even show up in the sediment record. Zero fucks. Next up, beautiful Chris, a man who continues to show up every week to a film podcast on the basis of a tolerance for cinema so narrow you could lose it down a drain. Unless there's subtitles, it's less than 90 minutes, and someone's getting their head held underwater until they stop moving. Chris considers it cinema for people who describe their personality as eclectic and mean that as a compliment. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. And no stranger to a soaking pussy in third place, the man whose introduction this week practically wrote itself the moment we picked a flood episode in a film about a cat is Sidy. Hello. Hi. And then there's me, Riggs.

SPEAKER_06 2:14

Hello. Hi, Riggs. Hi. Hi, so hi. You always make yourself so sound so normal at the end. And really, you're like the weirdest one of us all. Yeah. Aren't you? Really? Yeah, really. Sort of. But we just don't write that intro. Yeah.

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Dan, you've been away. I've been away. Away, away, away. Did you have a good time?

SPEAKER_06 2:34

Did, yeah. It was in Spanish Spain, the Spaniards and with the family as well. Went to a flea market, which any fleas? That was all that was there. Honestly, it was the dirtiest market I've ever been to. It's like crazy. You've been some dirty places there. Unbelievable. Honestly, there's nothing in there that worse than Nepal and just it was just absolute. It's like Belisan. It was like going down Belisan, which is our our kind of dump site and recycling centre. No, dump site. It was an absolute dump site. It was just it was just like got and people were selling stuff like from there.

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It wasn't food and so I like one of the things.

SPEAKER_06 3:15

No, it wasn't food, it was just like flea market in the real sense of flea market. Site I once I remember people were selling guns. Oh, right. That was the only kind of my ears picked up. One guy goes, some guns. It was an English guy who obviously traded. Yeah, cosdale crime. And he goes, I've got some guns in the back of the van if you want to have a look, Cole. And he goes, Yeah, okay, I love a look. Like, and I was just hanging around there just listening. And I said to the family, they're selling guns down there. And he goes, Oh yeah, okay. Alright. We'd all become quite immune to it by then, and just wandered up and see whatever other crap there was. We didn't spend a euro every time. We didn't even spend one euro. We didn't even spend one euro. There was just nothing you would have had. But that was a low light and otherwise quite a highlight of plazas and sangria and wine and tapas and sunshine.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

Like a family-wide collective dream problem. It seemed to be every Friday you lot seem to be pissed.

SPEAKER_06 4:11

Yeah. Oh no, every Friday. Sometimes Wednesdays and I applaud it. It's well done. Yeah. But it was nice. Otherwise, it was uh see senor. See. Gracias. You seen anything this week's side?

SPEAKER_04 4:28

I was toting up all the stuff that I read and watch about current affairs because I was like, I do watch a lot of stuff. But I haven't watched a new movie for a little while. I do want to watch Project Hail Mary, but I haven't got around to watching that.

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Yeah.

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I watched an episode of Barry, but other than that, no, not not a great deal.

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I watched Speed over in Spain because it was the only English channel we had, and it it just came on and it was good. Yeah, it just like connecting back up to that. But just it'd been a while since I'd I'd seen it, but it stood up and it was Hopper was great. Yeah. And Keanu Keanu and Sandra Bullock is they must have done it, yeah. And who's a guy who was Domin Domer, not Jeff Daniels. Jeff Daniels, he was Keanu's partner in it, and he's gotta he's gotta shoot him to get the you know to kill Hopper.

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Shoot the hostage, that's the shoot the hostage, yeah. Hot pot queer's hot shot or whatever.

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It's one of those films where the sequel is better than the original. P2 Cruise Control.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

Well, I have seen that. No, is that the one on the bolt?

SPEAKER_06 5:39

Yeah, Jason. Oh man, that's a brilliant. I think that killed sequels actually. That was the end of sequels, yeah. No. But that was that was good. That was a a highlight of Spanish television.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Reese, you catch anything? Yeah, I caught up with Invincible and the Boys. It's crazy that Amazon puts basically those things up not up against each other, but out at the same time when they're essentially the staggering.

SPEAKER_04 6:03

Um I had given up on the boys and I watched it again. I caught up with it all when I was in Thailand and we were hung over one day. So I caught up with it. So I'm back on board. I wouldn't need to watch it. Are they drip feeding it or is it all out?

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No, they're drip feeding. But they're about five episodes in already, so we won't have to wait until there's another season of The Boys.

SPEAKER_06 6:24

The last one, the finale. Oh, I didn't even know. And what what was the other one you said? Invincible. Invincible. And I hated superior violence, yeah.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah. That was really the last episode seven, I think it was, was really absolutely grotesque. There was one moment where I actually did have to look away from the screen briefly. Invincible, yeah. He's just pulling this guy's guts out like endlessly with his hands and the noises, like, what did they do to Stephen Yun to make him make those noises in the recording booth? God knows. Live method.

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Yeah. The other thing we've enjoyed watching at home recently, Nelly and I, is the good doctor, which I've mentioned before in the hazard type. Yeah, we've we've got to the stage now where we just enjoy slating it every c What that would never happen. And he why wouldn't they just why are they just killing him? Is it younger?

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Autism is a superpower, yeah. It's one of those.

SPEAKER_06 7:19

It's not really, because actually you think, well, why not make him better? In in the end, he's just like being I mean, the outcome is better.

SPEAKER_04 7:29

You know, that sort of thing. I've got the pit queued up to watch because that's supposed to be right. House is said to be better. Have you did you know about the pit? No. That's a medical drama, and it it's it's got Noah Wiley, who is John Carter from ER, and but he's playing again an ER doctor. But this is ER crossed with I I guess the two references would be 24 because it's it's one the series is one shift. Oh. So every every episode is an hour of their shift throughout the day. It's supposed to be excellent. My mother's been watching it on my HBO profile. So she's told me it's very, very good. Like, believe the hype, this is really fast.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

That launched, didn't it, at HBO Max in the UK last or the week before? Yeah, they're under season two in the US. It's the fastest selling streaming. It's been a lot hype about it, but really in in the UK, the the HBO Max, yeah.

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Like super, super gory, you know, ER, you know, emergency rooms. We get the first episode's got like a D gloves.

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The pommely funnels you need to get in there, yeah, get CPI and eight milligrams of this, that, and the other, and you're like, okay, right. Yeah, don't even need to. I I don't need to go to medical school, just watch season of this. Chris, what did you watch?

SPEAKER_01 8:42

I didn't watch anything. You've been grassing, we've been working too hard, man. Yeah, I know. I need I need a couple of days off. I'm really angry. I was really angry today at work, and I wanted to strangle a couple of them today. I've customers or stuff is the staff mostly, but because I'm always surrounded by girls and they're very young and it's really annoying me. Um tough life, isn't it? Yeah. And are you still finding a lot of discarded pants at work, Chris? Honestly, what was it, Friday? Went to put the towels in the wash. Put the towels in the wash because obviously our our sister business is a yoga studio. Put the towels in the wash. I didn't really look at, I just picked them up and put them in in the wash, took them out, two pairs of pants. Both of them women's.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Took them out, and I I've as I put them on the on the size, shape, I mean. They're knickers, I don't know. The the thing goes in your ass, whatever you call it. G string. B string. B string, g string. A thong type thong, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

So but these people, there's a lot of women coming to your work and just leaving their pants there. I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Especially because look, you've been in the cafe, you know the setup. It's not like you you get a changing room inside the studio. Do you you need to how do they how do your pants end up in the Chris? Have you seen you?

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But they don't think that's me.

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That looked like one of those was mine. I say I went for a quick pint on Friday and bumped into 80. Alright, yeah. And uh he goes, Oh, Sony, do you know a guy called No, I'm not gonna say his name. And I was like, Yeah? And he goes, Oh, because yeah, it's just just wondering because he goes, The reason I ask because I found you know I know where he works, so I went on the website and then he goes, I saw that you work there as well. And I was like, Oh fucking hell. And he's like, Yeah, we'd so this 80's got a building company, yeah. And he's like, So and so had you know, we were gonna build an extension for him. I was like, All right, I said, Oh, that's funny because he lives in a different country, and he's like, Yeah, so anyway, it's all gone quiet, and he's not returning my calls and blah blah. And I was like, Okay, finished my pine, she went across to so that was Crafties, and I went to Soy and I was meeting the other guy. I was like, just someone called AD, and the guy's looking at me like he's like looking for you, and he's like, Yeah, did agree to do that, but I need to go back to him. Thought 450 grand was quite expensive, and I was like, Yeah, that does sound quite expensive. But don't fucking you know be a cunt, just tell the guy. Yeah, you're not doing it well at it, yeah. Which I think he's got that impression anyway, but anyway, that was quite funny. I literally saw him and then pumped into this guy. Yeah, okay. Why am I the middleman all this shit? Anyhow, shall we get on to talking about some floods?

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Yeah, yes.

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Top five floods.

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There's fucking loads of opportunities to talk about floods. Okay, when you're unprepared as I am. I like a disaster.

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You're always unprepared for a flood, Dad. Dan. Oh come on.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

So old your dad. I am that old as well.

SPEAKER_04 11:42

Uh I love a disaster movie, and that's that's rife for flooding. Yeah.

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Fertile ground.

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Yeah. Day after tomorrow. Well, Roland Emmerich is the master of flooding, isn't he? Deep impact, but my the one I really like is 2012. Oh, I was gonna say this. This is like a new Noah's Arc vibe. Yeah. I fucking love this movie. It's great. John Q said What's not to love.

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Woody Harrelson.

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He is the kind of conspiracy nut, but he's right.

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Turns out to be correct all along. Yeah.

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He's doing a sort of, I guess, podcast on the top of a trailer. In a ridge in a trailer, and he gets he just gets constructed. Watch this a couple of times. First time if I'm at home and I catch it on a channel, I'll watch it. It's great.

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Also, Moonfall, which had the moon coming close to the earth in like a uh upwards flight.

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Because it's amazing. Yeah, it was incredible. What's that guy's name? I can never remember that actor's name. Patrick Wilson, is it? Yes. Is that actually his name? Yeah. My God. But there's some strong flooding content at the end, and they've essentially have to travel across America, fuck yeah, to get in these giant arcs. Yeah. Which they do manage to do as the floods hit.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

Yeah, but there's still like an hour and a half of the movie to get 'cause it's quite a long one, isn't it? They go in there and then there's probably 40 minutes of the world being just destroyed and smashed about.

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Yeah, there's like the Russian oligarch guy who's he's bought his way onto one of the arcs, and then you get a whole thing of them going through the sort of breaking into it through things whilst there's sort of little mini bits of flooding where they're going through getting caught in it all. Yeah. Supreme flood content. Yeah.

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Remember the abyss? Yes. There's a couple of flooding things on that when they get kind of flooded from underneath. Yeah. But also there's that kind of huge tsunami wave which just stops in mid-air and you see the seagulls just flying around. There's that kind of cut, because there's a few different cuts of that movie, isn't it?

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Yeah, there is, yeah. There's a whole different ending as well, where a big thing with aliens coming out and all that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah.

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So I've watched it in a few a few times and been surprised to see it different end differently, you know.

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Um and it's also the in that because I it just I always remember this about this film, the flood of that liquid that they have to breathe, you know, because they they both swallow it down like and they voluntarily sort of drown yourself, yeah.

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That's it, yeah, they do. And it it goes into their lungs and it had some kind of oxygen liquid that meant means that they can breathe underwater. But Ed Harris has to go down, and he's the one that he's got like some kind of computer keyboard, isn't he? He goes, always knew this would be one week trip being the hero as he goes down, and then this airlock opens up underwater because the aliens have opened it, and they he's they're showing him a huge tsunami that's gonna go over the and he has it, a huge tsunami is gonna go over the world, and he's saying, You can't judge us, and all the rest of it, and it just kind of freezes there, just as they're about to flood the world and everything. So that's that's one that always gets me actually for the for the floods, and it has a few floods, it's say a couple in the underwater flooding as well, disaster movie.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

I've got not necessarily an underwater one, but it's underground, I think. I can't remember which one because I didn't write it down because obviously I'm such an absolute legend. There's one of the Mission Impossible ones, one of the recent ones where Tom Cruise goes into he needs to go into spinning thing. Spinning underground chamber where he needs to take out a I think it might be Ghost Protocol. Yeah, I know the one you mean. Yeah. The discs is gonna have to be catched. Yes, he needs to take out the discs. He catches the patch that opens up the water thing. Yeah. Simon Pegg defloods, whatever, that takes all the water out for 38 seconds or whatever. And then he have you seen that? Yeah.

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Is it the thing where he has to jump he has to jump in from the top and it is like big plug hole that you see?

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Didn't he have to learn to hold his breath for like three and a half minutes? Every one of those films has to something.

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It's based on a true story. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Well, it must be, yeah. And I've got that. That's a good one. It's a flooded underwater room, I guess. Yeah. Under sorry, underground room, not underwater. It does become underwater, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Well, I've got Frozen 2. Um, if you remember the beginning of that film, which I'm sure you do, it turns out that Elsa's grandfather built a dam as a sort of deliberate instrument of colonial genocide against the indigenous population. And it's probably a slightly heavier narrative pivot than you were really expecting from the sequel about a musical snowman. But she tears it down, doesn't she? Like a massive wall of water that smashes through the fjord and comes at Arundel and then Elsa has to freeze it with her uh some sort of earth science, polar, you know, ice cap type metaphor.

SPEAKER_04 16:52

Yeah. Rising sea levels, etc.

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Yeah. But I also think it's the only time a war crime has been corrected by aggressive ice sculpting.

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Yeah. More power too, huh? Isn't there gonna be a third one? Probably gotta be. Martin. That's a bit chubby. Martin. Martin. He works in the travel industry and he just went to it would be Disney. I think it's Euro Disney. Yeah, yeah. And they had the new Frozen World bit there. Okay. So it was good, but there's only one ride and it's quite short. But he did have his photo taken with all the different characters.

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And this is a six foot two game app.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:35

Mine. Yeah, that was a big show, I don't know where that came from. We did talk about ARCs before a little bit. There's uh obviously there's No Earth 2014 Darren Aronofsky one.

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Is it the Russell Crowe? Russell Crowe, yeah, he has to kill his own children. I think that I had that written down, yeah. The rock monsters.

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I'd have to revisit this because of how much you love it. I quite liked it to be fair.

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It's fucking mad.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Like just all these rock monsters and it's also really dark. Yeah, everything is is under a cloud. You mean like the light like the the lights? Yes, the light looks like there's no lightly dark on earth.

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Well, because it's all yeah, it's exactly it a lot of it's filmed inside as well in the arc, isn't it?

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So right, you know, but even when he's outside, when it starts raining and that it's still not it looks like it's night time all the time.

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Well you could pivot straight from that to Evan Almighty, which is also Arc. The sequel that nobody asked for to Bruce Almighty. I don't know if maybe people. I've never watched it, so it's Steve Carell, I do like him, but I Bruce Almighty was great. I was I was like I was done, I didn't need another one. Yeah. And then other like another ship one, Titanic, of various different varieties. That's not necessarily the because the sea level flooded, but shipped flooded, flooded.

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Well, I mean, thinking of of kind of other floods, then you've got the the Thai true story of the kids getting saved in the one time. That pedo guy, yeah. 13 lives. Super weird. He said, Oh, we'll send in a submarine and obviously just stupid because you Well, when you saw how they got them out, it was the size of um you know, like a a flume or something, less than that, that you go through and he they're packaging kids up. He said, What genius idea, like to say, right, how are we gonna get these kids out? They're definitely gonna freak. You're talking about an hour, they're gonna have to go through these tight, narrow channels, and even tighter than a flume, like you know, it's just a pipe that can just get one body through, and then you've got to go one at a time to come through. And he he brought in a friend of his, didn't he, that was an aestheticist. It was Colin Farrell and another person. Another one. Another person, there was definitely other people in it, and he'd invited this guy who he'd been caving with before to help him. Yeah, people do this for fun. Well, he did this for fun. When he got there, he goes, I'm you know, like I'm really pleased that you've invited me, but I, you know, I not really at your level, you know. I'm I'm just anything I can do to help. And then he That's when he tweaks while he's then it it dawned on him, he goes, You're an anaesthetist. That's why you're fucking here. Yeah, because you're not here because you're a caver. You're not here because you're a caver, you're here because you're gonna put these kids and we're just gonna bring them out like packages. Yeah, and the crazy way to do it. And the only bloke that died was the Thai Marine who who went in a little bit gung-ho, at least in the movie they they kind of produced it that way that he wasn't quite at a level of, you know, or maybe trying to prove himself a bit. Trying to yeah, which is a tragic story because he he obviously wanted to help and he was a hero just going in that environment totally hard as nails to put yourself mentally in that position where you're gonna risk your life to save these kids. But the experts, these cavers had got them all out after this cave had flooded, and yeah, what made it all more bizarre and weird at the time was the fact that Elon Musk was wading in, they didn't show that in the film. But Elon Musk was wading in saying, Oh, I'll send in a fucking submarine and why don't you want my help? You're a pedo and all the rest of it, and you're just thinking, Wow, the these guys have risked uh just because he's a billionaire doesn't mean he's clever, just he wanted uh you know, I don't know, cheap publicity or whatever. I have no idea. No idea. I think he ended up getting sued and having to pay like this guy a few hundred grand, which is fucking peanuts to Elon, of course, but it's the principle with the fact in the fact we're calling him out Elon you're a nutter.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Wow. Yeah. Strong words. I mean, yeah. The I've got this thing with call Kevin Costner that Is the world is flooded. What's the world? Water world. Yeah. That is a good one, no? They don't actually show the the the the the moment of flooding. No, we just gotta live it. But we just know that it used to be the world that as we were most expensive film ever made at the time, I think it was.

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Oh, was it?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. Um in 1995, so it's quite a while. It was like 200 million back then or something, and I think a lot of it went on the actual gills that they implanted in Kevin Carsoner. Yeah, because they did turn him into part fish for the movie.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

Yeah. And they they had to take him out to the floor. Could have done for that afterwards so he could go back to being. Yeah, uh that was a flood. Yeah, it was. And it was quite look, I've never seen anything like it before. Hopefully you never will. And I hope I never will. I think it's probably just about made his money back now. And can I put another in a request in for the flooding of the cave in Apocalypto when he the panther or whatever it's called, the the main character, the skinny jaguar guy, when he leaves his missus and the kid in a hole in the ground, and because of the rain, the hole starts flooding and it fills up. And he goes through all the adventure with the sacrifice, he escapes the sacrifice, runs back to get his missus out, and he just they just make it to get the the she he gets he just gets them out of the cave before they drown. Good one. Mel Gibson. Yeah. Yeah. Friend of the pod, obviously. Yeah. Gibbo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:40

Friend of Greeks People. Loves them, yeah.

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Would you like a list of flood-inspired actors, films, directors, musicians, etc.? Well, I've got Flood Sport or There Will Be Floods, Take Your Pick, as rubbish. Waders of the Lost Ark, The Drench Connection, Gush Hour, Tidal Recall, or Drownton Abbey. And they're all of course directed by Steven Spielberg. And they will film star Burst Reynolds, Dam Aykroyd, Poor Giamatti, Kristen Bale Your Boat Out, Spray Romano, and Harrison Fjord. And the music will be by Serge Gainsborough and Wave Grohl.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

And then a little nomination off the back of that was we uh did a cute little trip to the cinema to see Parasite. Bongjon Bong Jun Ho's best picture winner. And that features a big stormy flood at the beginning that fills everywhere up, and none more so the than the guy, I think it's the dad. I've got the actor's name, the character's name, Song Kang Ho. He sits on a toilet that geezes shit into his own kitchen, if you remember that. Uh as a result of the floor.

SPEAKER_04 24:49

That was right after COVID, wasn't it? We got to go out to cinema, yeah. Yeah, we went to the city. But it wasn't in the cinema, it was the Savoy Hotel.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

A French guy at the Savoy Hotel is Stefan.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Stefan, yeah, Stefan. His name is Stefunk. Stefank. Brings the funk.

SPEAKER_06 25:01

I tell you what, he's a great funk DJ.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Yeah, yeah, he loves it. Yeah, he's good. Brings the music. Great music. Shout out to Stefang.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

Nice. Credence Clearwater Revival. We've all got a Balski shaped soft spot of them. Who'll stop the rain and have you ever seen the rain? Flood adjacent kind of songs there. When the Levy Breaks. Yeah, Led Zeppelin. Well, it was originally Memphis Mini and Kansas Joe McCoy in 1929. Well, there you go. Covered by Led Zeppelin in 1971 on Led Zeppelin 4, I think. And then When the Levy Breaks, also then Nick is a song for documentary titled by Spike Lee about Katrina. Alright. So lots of Levy content there. Oh god, there's even more when the Levy Breaks stuff sampled by Beastie Boys and Eminem. The whole of side two of Hounds of Love by Kate Bush. So she loads up the first half of the album with all the hits. So you've got like Hounds of Love and Um Running Up the Hill, Make a Deal with God, all that sort of cowburstings on there. The second side is actually named the ninth wave, and that's a conceptual piece about her imagining herself drowning. It's not necessarily flooding, but like that it's unclear about how she's got into the situation. A lot of people drown in a flood, so she imagines herself sort of lost at sea and drowning and under ice and stuff, and it's great. I saw her perform it live, it's fucking incredible. Find the river, sort of flood-coded thing in REM. I've got a lot of video game ones, but they're a bit boring really. But you know, when the water level rises in various levels of like Tomb Raider, all that other stuff, and you have to get around. I'm just gonna offer that just nominate. So over to you, Dan.

SPEAKER_06 26:43

Okay, well I I will I'll start my nomination with the Poseidon adventure. You remember that? Gene Hackman, he be he's the preacher. Yes, yeah. Serious at the role. It was they're all happily going on a on a cruise ship and they hit a storm. It's a huge squall or something that that just tips over the boat and it flips the this huge cruise ship top down, everything's upside down, the huge chandelier and everything in the ballroom, and this posh kind of New Year's party is turned upside down. You've got all the people in their you know, gowns and their finery, and he is a hard drinking and no-nonsense smoking preacher who tends to take the advantage, or not the advantage, he tends to take the lead really and and help people get the advantage on on the situation because there's a lot of nervous people, there's injured people, there's people that as they kind of go up almost like a video game, they go up the levels to get under the hole and have to try and get to the top. They lose people on the way, and you're like, oh no, not that person, and they've got to jump over a bit, and you and they remade it. They remade it, but not as well.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

I liked it. I got a real soft spot for it in the day.

SPEAKER_06 28:10

And Gene Hackman's in that one as well, I think. But this when I I'm thinking the original Gene Hackman one, it was just almost like a Christmas movie, but it was one of the you know, they had the infer the Great Inferno and disaster movies at the time of the late sort of sixties, seventies, eighties and things. This was one of the better ones, the Moseidon Adventure, and the boat was flooding and time was running out, and he was able to save a few of those that were brave enough to follow his leadership.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Gene. Gene. I'll go for that. Yeah, well guy. Yeah, great stuff. In Kingsman, the first one, the film with the Taran. Taryn and the other one, the Colin Firth. Yes, Colin Firth. There's a scene where I like both of them. Taran negative, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're good, they're good. I I like them both. The there is a scene where they do a test when he's trying to become Lancelot, and he they flood the room, and he breaks through the window, and there's it's a test for him to get into the Kingsman's services, and there's him and all the other students, they're basically in a in a classroom and they flood the room, yeah, and he breaks the window and he gets them out, but in the end, one of the students is dead, and then obviously at the end we find out that that was not necessarily she wasn't dead, she was just an asset from Berlin or something like that. And I I thought that was quite interesting because they actually it's a test, they do literally flood the room and and they find well, the whatever his name is, Taran finds a way out. And my norm is going to be the fortress of Isengard gets flooded by the trees.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

This is a this is a your thing, Lord of the Girls. Lord of the Girls.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Two Towers. Yeah. In the Lord of the Rings of Two Towers, the Ents. Oh yeah, they do, don't they? They break the dam. Yes, they break the dam.

SPEAKER_04 30:10

Because they're all getting burnt and a tree bear doesn't like that, so they smash the dam.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

He only gets involved though when they point out that the other tree because he they gonna talk about any other races. Yeah, exactly. He's very edenophobic, I think. He's a racist, basically. Because it's when they he basically takes them to show all the trees have been cut down. That's what he cuts.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

We are when do they get to the end of the He's got a line and they've crossed it.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Yeah. First they came for the, you know, trans people, but I wasn't trans, so I didn't so then they came for the trees, but I wasn't a tree. Well, he was a tree.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Exactly, Chris. We're all trees. So you know. And that's my nom. Yeah. You're transitioning into a tree.

SPEAKER_06 30:48

Yeah. And any uh flood lights? Is it well that's good to bring that up now at the end, just as we're finishing. But yeah, that's good. People out there might have floods of tears, like all that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

But um brings me into your nom. I've torn between two. Uh I'm gonna have to mention them both just because they're both brilliant. The Simpsons has the one where Homer it tries to make a flat pack barbecue and accidentally becomes like an art sensation, and uh he's trying to remember that and he's trying to follow it up, and he doesn't. In the end, I think he breaks a water tower and fills the whole of Springfield. That becomes his sort of Venice style modernist art installation. And then, of course, my actual nomination then is at the climax of Oh Brother, where art thou? Yeah, I had that one. They blow the dam, and uh it's like a Deus X Mac in a moment to save the boys as they're about to be lynched by Satan himself and the valley floods and shout out to the damn busters. Yeah. Be another one. Bouncing bombs.

SPEAKER_04 31:47

It was record store day on Saturday. Okay. I spent some money. I spent some money on that, and uh one of the things I bought was uh E Street band box set. Okay. This song isn't on that, but the song is from the album Greetings from Asbury Park, and the box set was them live in Asbury Park in 2024. There's track two on the Asbury Park album, it's called Lost in the Flood, it's fucking great. There's no actual flooding in it, it's MS4 for Vietnam, Urban Decay, Lost Faith, American Collapse, and this was back in 1973. It's fucking great. And if you were to listen to there's a there's another live recording from Hammersmith Odin 1975, it's track four on there, it's fucking brilliant. That whole album is incredible. So yeah, E Street Band Lost in the Flood. Nice. Oh good for me solid. A and other flood. You could have a flood light, you could have your favourite flood light or your flo or your flood with tears or any interpretation on flooding. We really went just kind of water aquatic. Yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

I think it's because of the main feature this week when you stay down that path.

SPEAKER_04 32:54

So yeah, just give us your favourite flood.

SPEAKER_06 32:56

You've probably got one. I hope there would be flooding in.

SPEAKER_04 33:07

Right, main feature, flow. I'd this has been on my radar for a little while. I'd never seen it before. It's 2024, it's fairly new. It's an animated feature. And it's not a silent movie, but there is no human dialogue in it because there are no humans in it.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

No, there are only animal-centric. And once once more, quite unusually, these are animals that behave like real animals. There's no Pixar style anthropomorphic, like, you know, there's no farting warthogs or that sort of shit. No, there's no like light relief. This is little animals that behave like little animals. No. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 33:45

We've kind of introduced first cat. We'd just call it cat.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

And just probably very quickly, because it's animation, we should talk a bit about how it looks, because it has a particular painterly cell-shaded style that still works quite well, considering It sort I was getting sort of like PlayStation cut sequence vibe to it.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

But I think that in a in like in a derogatory sense. That's just what it reminded me of.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Yeah. I thought it was just a yeah, like you say, more of a pixelated.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

Like a computer-generated thing. And then when you sort of learn about it, that they made this with free-to-use software.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

Blender. The I mean you see people talking online about using Blender for 3D modelling.

SPEAKER_04 34:29

So then they did so it sort of that you know you could make this for free. They obviously had a budget, but they used this software that was free.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

So yeah. And it started as as a short that the director, a guy called, he's got a pretty cool name, Gintz Zilbelodist. Because he's Latvian. He's Latvian, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So he made a he's very young, and then he made a a short in 2012 about a cat overcoming its fear of water, and then he worked with a team of 45 people to make this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:59

And he's just that a lot for a film you ain't. I think that's quite a lot.

SPEAKER_04 35:02

I think that's not when you look at this, because this obviously looks top, it doesn't look cheap or amateur-ish the way it's put together. So I'd say that's quite a small crew. When you when you look at it.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Well, it's everybody who's involved in it as well, right? So not everybody that is an animator, it's musician, storyboard, HR. I mean, you know, it's all. When you look at a Pixar thing and you've got thousands of names, this is small. And they outsource a huge amount of that stuff to like other animation houses as well, like hundreds of Koreans and Chinese. Anyway, but and the only other thing as well, of course, is that he is from Latvia, which is a country of two million people, so this film made a big impression, I think, for that country. So it's just 30 years old as well when it was released. Christ, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:42

It's we're not kind of sure exactly where we are first when we land in the world of flow. We meet a cat and there is some water around, and no people But it's in a forest. It's yeah, it's it's rural, and but you're kind of like, oh, we don't really know what's going on, and then it just sort of becomes clear that there's there's various sort of cat statues. At first they're small, and then we get some fucking gigantic ones. There's an enormous one on the top. So there's some sort of cat worship.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

I thought initially they were turned into stones.

SPEAKER_04 36:14

Well, yeah, because at first they're the they're just the same size as the cat. So I thought, oh, they've been mummified or something.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

I think the the world is left very vague, really ambiguous. Like it's all very nothing is explained in that.

SPEAKER_04 36:27

Because then we do we do see a giant one. I thought, oh, th there's some sort of cat worship going on. But we know there's never a human in it.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

No, the closest reference to that is because the cat the first thing that we meet is the cat actually running away from a a pack of dogs, hiding from it, showing off a bit of skills to get away, and then it comes back to its house and goes back inside and it, like you say, there's a drawer, it's obviously.

SPEAKER_04 36:50

So there's an abandoned house and there is a doodle of a of a cat on a kind of like you know, workbench type thing, and it just chills out in this house with no one there.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

No. And it does look out to see a sailboat stuck up in the trees, which will be important because obviously they we know there's going to be a flood. Yeah. And it's obviously happened before. So it that's when it heads down to go and get some food, doesn't it? It goes down to a stream to catch a fish. Yeah. And there's a bunch of dogs there.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

Uh well, she doesn't catch the fish, someone else catches the fish, and she just kind of tries to scavenge. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:26

And there's also a sort of when things start moving towards the flight, there's like a a charge of deer or something.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

Well, all the dogs come running, they they go running past, and then they come running back, and all these birds doing like, oh, what's the problem?

SPEAKER_06 37:41

And then you think and then there's like a stampede of these So all we're seeing is just spaghetti and animals, and you're looking at their behaviour and and then understanding the the picture and what's going on.

SPEAKER_04 37:55

Yeah, and we're not going to be able to do that. We're focused on the cat.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:59

You're focused on the cat, but you're not seeing it from the cat's perspective.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

There's like a just a dynamic camera sort of following everything around. And the beginning's pretty breakneck as well, and the movie's got quite a good pace about it because the cat is essentially quite often in peril. So as it will be in this piece, all these things come charging back, you think it's going to get like mufased or whatever and stampeded to death, and then an enormous thing of water just fucking barrels through and just fills everything up like straight away, a tsunami.

SPEAKER_04 38:27

So they scramble to higher ground and uh The cat has to climb up onto this enormous cat statue, sort of stands on the head bit in between the two ears, and it can see.

SPEAKER_02 38:38

Well, the first bit is actually the the dog, one of the dogs gets separated from the other dogs, these dogs that have been chasing him, and follows her back. The water's not quite at that level, yet she goes back to her house and the dog's following her because the dog suddenly like doesn't want to be by itself and is like, oh, really sad. So it follows the cat and the cat's like go, but he's trying to stay out of its eye line, but also the cat knows that he's there, but it doesn't give a shit because when he gets back to his house, jumps right up and the dog can't do it, and he's just stuck outside like a dumbass while the cat's inside, sort of looking at him. But then the water starts to rise again, and you're like, mmm, there's a bit few problems there. Yeah, that's what she takes.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

I I'm saying she's we don't know. It's just cat. It's a cat cat. Eventually, eventually it's sort of life a pie, like a like a boat, a little ship, little sailboat comes past, and the cat's sort of looking at thinking, you know, I'm thinking cats, you know, renowned for fucking hating cats.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

But it's a lot of peril. Like we've seen this cat statue up on the mountain, now the whole valley's flooded, she's right up on the on its ears. Yeah, like it's gonna drown. Yeah. And so, yeah, straight into the boat. So, yeah, just has to make a break. And there's a capibara in there, yeah, I love a capibara. She's like absolutely instantly terrified and hissing at it, and it's just like eating fries and falling asleep.

SPEAKER_06 39:59

They can they're pretty chill and they can swim. He's the chillest character in the film, he's really nice. They can swim, hold the breath for like twenty minutes. Oh well that will come into play, Dan.

SPEAKER_04 40:10

Oh, okay, right, yeah, okay, good. Yeah, he's um he's a vibing. He's just like, yeah, I'm chilling in the boat.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Yeah, the cat's really unbothered. Sorry, the Cappy Bar is really just like unbothered about absolutely everything, isn't it? Yeah, it's just like, well, here I am.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

Yeah, chill out. It starts to rain at one point and it it strange sort of like drags the cat under the little undercover bit. It's like, just come chill out here. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

So they end up sort of going through the forest through this boat as the waters continue to rise. You see the odd birds mate.

SPEAKER_06 40:37

What they call it. Is it kind of river? A fast flowing river, or is it just cruising along?

SPEAKER_04 40:44

At this point, this the the water level has got to its peak. Yeah. Okay. And they're just sailing through it.

SPEAKER_02 40:51

It's like a magnificent shot, actually, when she's right at the top of the cattias as it's as the water is at its peak. And this like Leviathan, I guess. This huge prehistoric aquatic whale thing comes breaching out the water.

SPEAKER_06 41:06

What you you mentioned is 30 years old this. Um 2024. Two years old. Oh right, so two years old. Yeah. The director's 30 months old. He's 30. What kind of the what is the kind of animation I'm looking? Because I'm sort of video game, it's not like it's not like it doesn't look like a pixel film. Right.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

It's cell-shaded, which is they draw it like filled in round the outsides of cells. So but it's also got a kind of brush stroke type quality to it as well. Okay. So it looks great. It does. Yeah, I love you.

SPEAKER_04 41:44

It looks good. So yeah, that's so when you see that giant whale leviathan thing, that to me meant not that it matters, it doesn't really matter at all, but it's not it's not Earth. It wasn't like uh something you'd see in I don't know, but it could mean lots of things.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

It could mean that humans have been gone for a long, long time. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 42:04

That that sort of part of the world is like completely ambiguous.

SPEAKER_02 42:06

Yeah. It's just great. It just leaves a lot for you to look at.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Especially because we always see in the distance the towers. Yeah. They're star-like structures. Yeah. These star-like structures that are made out of rock. Yeah. So it's not that you can't. That's where they're kind of the journey is.

SPEAKER_02 42:21

They're sort of the water is all heading that way and it almost looks like fingers extending into the sky. But really, really long and tall. Massive, yeah. And so they go through like it's really quite relentless this part as the cat like escapes nearly drowning, getting picked up by the Leviathan helps it when it gets struggling, like it drowns and it lifts it back to the room. Because of the current, yeah. The water the top, and then it's picked up by a bird and fought over. Because we've got to get the full crew in the boat. And eventually, yeah, we get the dog and they pick up a it's amazing. The bird just there's when he's about to be killed by another of those secretary birds, this other bird steps in to save him and they have this horrible fight. It's grimly. And then she breaks her wing, so she can't find it. They do get to a point where there's loads of these secretary birds.

SPEAKER_04 43:09

Yeah. And they're like, oh they're just gonna like kill the cat. Yeah. And this because this secretary bird has somehow f made a connection with this group, stands up to them and they just break its wing. It just fucking horrible.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

But stamp on its wing and like as it's kind of on its wing over the cat as something to protect it. Just in front of it, yeah. So they end up this like that bird ends up driving the ship. It's amazing. These elements.

SPEAKER_01 43:37

With one, yeah, with one but they're still behaving like animals.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

It's not like it's not cutes. Pixar, you know, singing, singing fucking birds.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

The dog is quite silly, doesn't know. It's dope. But the um lemur, the king's the round with the round tail with the king.

SPEAKER_06 43:53

Black and white lemur, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

The lemur who who he loves his treasures. Who loves his treasures? He just has and there's loads of lemurs a lot. The journey, but none of and basically these are all outcasts of their own kind of people. Species. The Labrador and his dogmates, the dogmates just fuck it all up when they pick them up eventually.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Well, you can see when the f the the uh that dog is just doing what the rest of the dogs are doing, he's not as vicious as the rest of them, so when they come back into it.

SPEAKER_01 44:21

He just kind of becomes a dog again with other i idiot dogs. And the leaves are. Not an outcast, but a different way of the secretary bird. The capibara is the only one that's pretty much by himself as a as a species. He doesn't meet anyone. And the cat doesn't meet any other cat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:38

But they're sort of misfits, the lean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of the idea, right?

SPEAKER_04 44:42

The lemon's got his mirrors and he loves his mirror. He's got this basket of stuff that he's found in a house, and then the cafe barra drags it onto the boat. It's like, come on, you can't stay here. You know, as if he's saying that to him, and he's like, Oh god, I've got to go where my treasures go. And he's just obsessed with this mirror. Eventually it gets broken and he's really upset about it.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

Yeah. So the only the only like the the bird navigates the the drives the boat because the bird knows because it's seen from above and he's used to standing on one leg anyway. Right. So he just kind of does that all the time.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

The cat's trying to do it as well. The cat's trying to do that.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

What am I doing? And then there's all these episodes where they're animals, right?

SPEAKER_02 45:19

So they all Although that that's the f where she the first time they use the rudder, it's like an accident, but when you're watching the shot, if you realise like she sort of leans on it and the boat starts turning. But if she hadn't have done that, they'd have smacked straight into a wall. So it's got this feeling of kind of being guided along the whole time. Like all these people coming together in the wall movements. Where do they get to? Because eventually the boat will be.

SPEAKER_04 45:42

Well they come to they come to this huge kind of citadel thing that's been flooded. Um they go through that, and that's where they meet those other stupid dogs that they've they're the same dogs from the start. Yeah. Some of the animals are like, mm-hmm. You know, they just like, fucking leave it. Leave the dogs, yeah. And they're they're whining and like, oh, we're not really bad dogs, you know what I mean? The way they're going on. Yeah. So eventually the cat's like, come on, we'll fucking pick them up. So they just nudge the rudder over and they pick up these dogs and they instantly balance. Yeah. Just before this, the cat has has learned how to hunt. She's going into the water, which is this little montage we're fishing, and they're really bright coloured tropical fish, and she makes a big pile of them on the on the deck of the boat and she gives a fish. She dishes them out, she shares them out, and they fucking twat dog just comes in. As soon as the rest of it just eats the whole lot, he's like, Yeah, you're such a dick.

SPEAKER_06 46:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 46:32

You don't know the dynamic.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

Yeah. And even the Labrador looks a bit embarrassed by that, doesn't he? And they go into in towards these tower-like structures and they get the choppy waters in it.

SPEAKER_02 46:43

Not just choppy, it's a massive storm, isn't it? The cafe bar was on it at that point, and he's like, it's in his mouth. And the cat goes overboard at this point, doesn't it? And then gets quite close to shore.

SPEAKER_04 46:59

The bird's able to fly just enough with its dodgy wing to one of these towers when they get there. Yeah. And the cat's sort of watching and go, oh fuck, you know. And it's this enormous, just straight up fucking stone tower, but a pathway has been carved like a spiral all the way around the outside of it, right to the very top. And the cat eventually manages to get to that. Doesn't it? Yeah, to the very top, yeah. And we watch it, you know, climb all the way to top and the sat, you know, it's it's really good.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

We've seen the that there's been the the aurora borealis going on a few times, but now it starts like locally at the top of the this was the only bit of the roof movie I didn't really understand. Yeah, exactly. Localised New York Kitchener. It starts at the top of the mountain, and the like there's this bright white light, and they start ascending, gravity fails, and they start sort of ascending up, and the bird disappears into the night. Like the rapture or something.

SPEAKER_01 47:51

It's almost like a sacrifice, right? Yeah, and then there's a sacrifice someone for the good of the others.

SPEAKER_04 47:57

There is a shot then from looking down like almost like a drone shot, and there are runes kind of carved into the base of it. So there's some sort of magical or something, you don't really know. We really don't know. So the cat legs it back down to try and get on the boat again.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

And it gets on the buoy? Yes. The the cat gets on the buoy and then gets to the bolt.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

And then it it finds because the bird had been a dick earlier, it got pissed off about something and kicked the lemur's thing off into the water. Yeah. And it clings to that, doesn't it? And so that gets reunited. There's like every bit of this that pays off. For foreshadowing just pays off with little bits that you know, somebody drops this or when the mirror breaks and it guts the the lemur's really gutted and all that. So anyway, yeah. He finds his way back. Um this is it where he's just clinging on to it and the cat's like you've it's got nothing left now, it's just clinging on like his eyes are going, like, oh god, it's gonna die. Like it there's just water everywhere, and then suddenly the water starts to like there's a tree, you see the top of a tree, it starts emerging and then the water starts draining down, and the cat's gonna be okay. Because that was the sacrifice, right, of the bird. Yeah. So everything's drained away and they're on the forest floor again. And she goes, she runs round to find the Labrador and Lima and the Capybara, which she's happy about, but then No, they have to rescue the Capibara because they find the ship is suspended and it's just the Leviathan first.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

Oh no, it's the it's the They have to they have to there's work as a team to get the sort of guidance. The bolt is in the tree, no? Yeah, and they they have to sort of like a swing work the the the sort of rope to get the boat to swing in the trees to get the capibara able because you can't jump very far to jump off. And the dog can really fuck it up again. The cat has to actually get in and and it as it kind of goes because the tree's about to fall off. Basically there's a huge ravine where all the water's well the earth is split, the crust is the earth is split. So it's really a teamway, everyone sort of works together this bit, and then eventually they do get back onto it.

SPEAKER_01 50:04

Well, no, because now is the dog, the capybara, and the cat. Yeah. And then they go on a like the cat goes on a well, the cat suddenly gets spooked and legs it, and you're like, oh, what's going on?

SPEAKER_02 50:16

And then he's realised he goes around the corner and in a clearing in the forest there's a Leviathan just lying there, dying. Because all the water's drained away. And she just nudges against it.

SPEAKER_01 50:30

You can hear it's like taking a really laboured breathing.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

And which is pretty horrible. So she goes to you know, be with it while it dies. Fuck you now.

SPEAKER_01 50:39

Um then goes to see that in another clearing is the lemurs. Yeah. And now it's like this is like Madagascar, it's like Kingdom.

SPEAKER_06 50:46

I'm thinking this is like a kid's film or you or this is a film for anybody.

SPEAKER_04 50:51

It's a family film, it's like yeah. My my my daughter's watching it, she goes, Is this about climate change? So it's like, wow, you're actually thinking about something that you're watching, it's like the first time ever.

SPEAKER_02 51:00

Yeah, well, it's just because we can get into that, but it just wraps up with all of the people looking down people, the animals looking down into a puddle, just as the cat had at the beginning on her own, but now she looks with her friends. And that is the confirmed interpretation, if you like, from the director that it's really just about finding that it's easier to do things in life with other people than it is to do things on your own. But you're right, you can imprint so much else, the climate change thing onto it, whatever you want to, if you wanted.

SPEAKER_06 51:28

Because I I'm I'm listening to you talking about this and I hadn't seen the the film, but I remember the Red Turtle, which was the So many parallels. Really? Yeah, yeah. Because I it's got that kind of vibe you'd have loved this to it to me. And it sounds like something I'm gonna want to lose with the family, to be honest, because I love those films that just get you thinking through imagery and through that visual storytelling.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

Um I think it's amazing they can keep your attention for an hour and twenty minutes with with no you know, no animals, no humans, yeah, no one talking, you know, no interior monologue. So every stage that you enjoyed the cat's eyes, it's just like it's just in their eyes or how they behave or whatever, and it you know, just it's brilliant.

SPEAKER_06 52:15

It doesn't drag at all. And it's just like that kind of thing, as you said, it's your inference on what an animal is thinking, yeah, or what you know, just through the behaviour, the the look of its eyes, its its body language or whatever. And we do have that within us in our day-to-day lives where we're just you can tell if an animal's happy or or sad or if it you know, all those kind of things and just basic needs we're we're kind of tuned in to do anyway. So it's brilliant when an animation can make that capture that happen.

SPEAKER_04 52:54

Yeah, it's it's like it's quite poetic the film, really. It's really excellent. There is a post-credit bit, do you see that? Yes, yeah. Yeah, with the Leviathan swimming around. Yeah, I didn't know if it was another one or something. Or the same one from earlier, or there'd been another flood and it hadn't died. I'm sure it had actually died, but just a nice bit of you know, seeing it splash around again.

SPEAKER_02 53:14

But he has had multiple opportunities to create a sequel to this and he says he will not do it because it's it you know, and Hollywood has come asking for this guy, and he has apparently knocked them back and said he wants to do his own he wants the creative freedom to do his own thing. Nice. It's certainly off the back of this, it looks like he's earned that. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:32

Definitely. I think you'd get such a kick out of this film.

SPEAKER_06 53:35

Yeah, well, uh it sounds definitely one that I I shall hunt down and uh I'm sure a few other people listening will be.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

Yeah, I I really like this. This was a breeze, no words, no nothing. Uh I watched it with Kara and she's like, Oh, it made me really sad. I'm like, what did you make you sad? They all survived. Everyone's happy, even the bird.

SPEAKER_04 53:53

No, the birds the birds ascended. The rapture into heaven or something.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

But yeah, and it's also kind of a it's really interesting because obviously Kara loves cats, so it was more that for me it was also the fact that at the beginning the cat detests water because that's what most of them do. But then it learns how to catch fish and how to and he just like she she go the cat goes diving, like proper diving, looking at a colourful fish and all that, and spends time underwater now. So it's adapted to its environment. It's really and colours are great, it's really good. I I really like it.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

The they recorded real animal sounds for it. Did you say about the cafebara? Yeah. They went to Zoom tickled a capibara to make it make noise.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

But they the noise that it made was too unpleasant, quote. Oh really. So it was a camel. And so they used a camel in the end. The cat's voice. Mute mute?

SPEAKER_04 54:49

Yeah. It was the sound engineer's own cat of the recorders.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

Yeah, it it's it's quite quite good because obviously I I've never heard a capybara speak, but I would imagine that's how it would sound sound like. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:04

Yeah. I got I'll tell you something afterwards.

SPEAKER_06 55:06

It was um just while you're you're about to talk about that, there was a thing I meant to mention earlier where I'd watched this video of this Japanese professor who apparently has interpreted birds um talking and talking.

SPEAKER_02 55:22

Talking like yeah, well, they're mostly telling each other to fuck off and stuff. Well that's it. Robin's a real touch. Like, fuck off, that shit's my mind, fuck off.

SPEAKER_06 55:32

Come closer, don't go any further. And they're just with the he's been able-I mean, I don't know how true it is because I didn't watch it all in depth. Because he's got professional in his name, he could just say it's pretty obvious some stuff.

SPEAKER_02 55:44

Like when I get there's birds in my back garden, and when I go out, they all start. They communicate, they're going, some dickheads coming out, yeah. Watch out for the dickheads.

SPEAKER_06 55:52

Well, this is it. So they commute, but he's been he's just like studied them long enough and listened to the nuances and behaviour, and then made enough up that I'm watching YouTube videos on him.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Uh this one the best animated feature at the 2025, it was the 97th Academy Awards. Wow. It beat Inside Out 2.

SPEAKER_06 56:12

Wow. It's brilliant, it is pleasingly worth it as well. Uh it makes me think that the 100th Academy Awards is coming up in just a few years' time as well. Two son? Yeah, this is fucking excellent.

SPEAKER_04 56:23

Really, really good. Yeah. Really strongest recommend. Strongest recommend, okay. Very good.

SPEAKER_05 56:37

Wow, we've had uh an absolute did we?

SPEAKER_01 56:42

Don't remember, but it was underwater.

SPEAKER_04 56:44

A flood of emotion and hype rate. Yeah. Uh that wraps up another another week. Yeah, well done. Well done, Sidie.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

Well at least you won't recommend. You turned up as well, so that's good. Nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 56:56

Um we'll find out. No doubt they'll be even better than this week. Well, I don't know. That'll be hard to be honest. That's that's what we're all about, being hard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:10

Uh all that remains is to say Cide's signing out. Dan's gone. A lot of it.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

Well, I can't even remember what he's saying.

SPEAKER_01 57:18

Simon's gone. Riggs has left the building. That's the one. That's the one.