Midweek Mention... Indecent Proposal

Indecent Proposal

Sidey: This is a first because we're doing something for the second time. 'cause we've had a Robert Redford week

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: But he died.

Dan: He did,

Sidey: And we felt like that was worthy of, Doubling up

Dan: Yeah, it is. Was he 89?

Sidey: He was eight, nine. Yeah.

Dan: He had the good innings, I guess, like left us with a lot in regard to his repertoire, his, his library,

his

Reegs: making movies up until relatively recently, wasn't it?

Sidey: Full Magar as well.

he?

Dan: Yeah, and, and left his Sundance.

You know, he was I think born in California but went out into the Utah and the mountains and everything. Really loved the country life in his privacy, but started off Sundance Film Festival, which is. Given us loads of amazing opportunities to see films you probably wouldn't otherwise have had made.

So yeah, he's a legend.

Sidey: Yeah. And we're gonna talk [00:01:00] about indecent proposal in this particular

Dan: because you'd never seen

Sidey: never seen it. I haven't seen it before. No, I have now.

'cause

Dan: I mean, well, we'll find out whether that was indecent of you or not. Hmm.

But it starts this film, doesn't it,

Rigg?

Sidey: It does, yeah.

At the beginning

Reegs: it

Dan: It starts at the beginning and as it goes on, it ends at the end.

Sidey: It does.

Reegs: It does. And there's a middle section.

Dan: There is, I would say, yeah, about halfway through. It

Sidey: It

Reegs: So strong recommend.

Sidey: Yeah. It has a narration. I think by, to me, are we saying

Reegs: Oh, it starts with Woody first.

Sidey: Oh, he never,

Reegs: Oh, he, yes. They exchange narration. At the beginning.

Dan: they, I,

Reegs: I he starts, he's in a sort of white tux with quite a lot of hair for Woody

Sidey: Turkey.

Reegs: Exactly. And he's saying, losing Diana was like losing a part of me. I thought nothing could change the way we felt about each other. I thought we were invincible, and then there's a soft dissolve to her on a bus.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: all felt that way about a girl at a particular time, I guess when we've been in young and in love. 'cause they are quite young here. They're

Sidey: He is a [00:02:00] senior. He's a senior at college and she's a freshman.

Reegs: Well, this bit is right actually at the end of the movie, to be honest.

This bit is the, because this is where the, the big reunion at the end is, that's how it starts with the narration. But it does flash back to tell that story. She's, she just, when she's on the bus, she says something about if you want something very badly, set it free. If it comes back to you, it's yours

Dan: Somebody wants

Reegs: And if it doesn't. It wasn't meant to be. And that's part of the story that they're gonna tell. So yeah, they met in high school. He would drive her and a friend back after class, didn't they?

Dan: Yeah. I, I dunno when the person that said that was actually thinking on the theme of this, but

Sidey: No, I don't think so. Yeah, he stares at her in the rear view mirror,

Reegs: Yeah. It was love at first

Sidey: catch each other's eye and he's like, oh.

Then they fuck. And

Dan: she, well, she smiles and she's got braces and everything. You realize how young they were?

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. She's 19. I think when

No, he is older. He is

Reegs: slightly older. Is he two years

Sidey: And obviously the parents say, what the fuck are you doing? This is way too young.

Reegs: But they, [00:03:00] they don't care and they elope and they go off and build a life so he became an apprentice architect and she went into real estate. And he's got like dreams of designing their home.

He is. Got it up on their bathroom

Sidey: Must have been somewhere better to do it.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: that's right. Yeah. He, he would take her to random buildings and car washes and things and just

Reegs: explain the beauty of

Dan: how, how amazing it was and how special. Not just

Sidey: wash.

but

Reegs: We get other insights into their relationship. They have a fight early on where she's moody about him not doing the laundry.

To be fair, he is left his cleats on the table and a load of shit around, but she is actually abusive to him.

Sidey: She hits him. Yeah. When

Reegs: hits him and implicates him with sex. I don't think you're supposed to read it like that because it becomes like this steamy saxophone type

Sidey: You see her nipple?

Reegs: Yeah. And I pretty sure it's either this scene or the next one. Woody has an erection. So Woody has a woody.

Sidey: He said it was really awkward because he was really good mates with her and her husband at the time. Bruce [00:04:00] Willis.

Reegs: So that would've made it even more,

Dan: only a man.

Reegs: I was pretty sure I spotted a visible erection and, it wasn't just mine.

Dan: And I mean, you, you pause and you rewind. You pause and you rewind and you know, eventually you get there. Don't you re

Reegs: They drive a two CV as well. Fucking hipsters.

Sidey: I I want to just go back to seeing net. I was not expecting to see her boobs.

I

Dan: see it? You see it a little bit later on as

Sidey: Do you get double up? Yeah. And

Reegs: up on the

Dan: And I had a two CV just like that. One, two CV Charleston.

Reegs: Hipster.

Dan: I had two of them, actually.

Reegs: Two. Two cvs.

Sidey: four

Dan: cvs. Two two cvs. I guess it would've been a four CV and the first one got burnt. I remember the police officer came to my house in the morning

Sidey: We've got our best people working on it.

Dan: somebody had set fire to

Reegs: I don't hold out much hope for the

Dan: and my, yeah, my football boots were in there as well.

Sidey: Oh, disaster.

Reegs: that is a loss.

Dan: They on fire.

Reegs: So she comes across this

Sidey: oh

no, the, the economy crashes.

Reegs: Well, they haven't bought the house yet.

Sidey: Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah. They buy

Reegs: across like some beachfront [00:05:00] property and he, like, they invest everything they have into this thing.

Dan: Oh, it looks absolutely

Sidey: they're building Barbie's dream home, aren't they? For him. And, and

Reegs: and they, yes. And then the the recession hits and they suddenly can't afford to pay their bills. And they, you know, they're in serious danger of defaulting and you know, it's all very tense. She's sleep talking with the worry.

And David Woody comes up with the genius idea

Sidey: He borrows off his dad first, doesn't

Reegs: Five grand? It's still not enough to touch the

Sidey: they need a, a completely round number

of

Reegs: They need 50,000. So he does it in the obvious way. He'd probably

Sidey: There is only one way you can do it. There's only one way you

Reegs: What's that fucking movie? The ride? Let it Ride. He'd watch, let it Ride.

Sidey: Gamble. Yeah. You need to

Reegs: gamble.

Or he goes off to Vegas.

Sidey: Playing the game. I just cannot get in my head around at all. Craps. Yeah. I think there's a few other

throwing

Reegs: sevens or elevens. It's basically a bit like our game.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Well, you, you four a seven or 11 and you win. If you throw anything else,

Sidey: if you've ever been to Vegas, that [00:06:00] is where all the noise on the casino floor is coming from, where that's where people are super excited

Dan: I do like the dice. I wanted to build a craps table in here,

Reegs: Yeah, that would be fun.

Dan: just to roll it down,

Sidey: that well, so who filmed the Slowmo Dice roll?

Do you know who did that in this film? Michael Bay. Did he? And then he reused it in another film.

Reegs: He had a habit of reusing stuff

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: right. save, save.

Reegs: We do actually they, they win quite early on. Not, not, well, just before then though, we do actually meet Gage.

Yeah. In a really creepy scene. She goes to try on a dress

Sidey: at her across

Reegs: and he's like staring at her and she notices him and I think it's supposed to be suave and stuff. And he's like, I'll buy it for you. It was worth it. 'cause I was watching you.

And she doesn't, I mean, but it's, he, he's, you know, it's Robert Redford.

Sidey: Redford.

Reegs: charming, twinkly eyed billionaire. Like,

Sidey: but it's still weird.

Reegs: Yeah, it is

Dan: Well, he, he's, he's just

Sidey: do that, go into a shop tomorrow and do that to a woman and see what

Reegs: Yeah,

Dan: None of us are Robert Redford. He was [00:07:00] 56 when he made this. Demi Moore was 29. But Robert Redford was, you know, in that scenario, a handsome man in a, you know, really expensive suit, checking out a, I, I suppose from his point of view, lots of people had been flattered

Reegs: Yeah. Maybe well, she says to him, the dress is for sale, but I'm not. And she does go out of there.

Then,

they win the

Sidey: they fuck on the money

Reegs: And they do. That's the bit I remember from the trailer. Yeah. Of her rolling around in the money.

Sidey: I think get a bit of boob action here as well. Yeah. No, but I didn't see an erection.

Reegs: Woody's erection. I think it's there.

Sidey: this this one? Okay. But they're only half. Whoa. We're halfway there. And they

Reegs: Oh. It was no ordinary love by Charday as

Sidey: well.

Yeah,

Dan: still living on a prayer, aren't

Sidey: Yeah. They need to double up. They need to double down. They're gonna try and do that. I think he's got a formula of just betting five grand a time or

Reegs: Yeah. And not go, they've got a [00:08:00] pre-agreed amount as well that they won't go

Dan: they won't go over five grand, which is what they owe dad.

Reegs: Yeah. But they do lose everything.

Sidey: Yeah. Wouldn't, you know it, the house wins

but they, well gage spots her.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: As they're leaving and he, he says, oh, actually can I borrow your

Dan: But,

but still kind of fortuitous because there's a big sea of people around him and, and it's Woody who kind of looks and, and goes over and

Sidey: wants to know

all the noise and all the excitement's about,

Dan: and she kind of clocks it and says, well, let's go and. He says, well, no, you know, let's, what's the worst that can happen?

And, and you've got Billy Bob

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Who's just a, a, a guy in the

Reegs: exposition. He's doing Basel Exposition.

Dan: and makes exactly that. Basil Exposition. And then he makes he says at one point, didn't he? Does you think she'll ever come back? Oh, I'm only kidding me. Yeah.

Sidey: He wa so Gage wants [00:09:00] to take advantage of her as a good luck thing, but really it's just a show of, of flight.

Dan: It is the only

Reegs: as the object that the script completely positions her character in as the, the

Sidey: He's gonna bet a call, they watch him playing cards and they show the chips that he's betting.

Reegs: loses a mil before they

Dan: No, he, he lose about a hundred

Sidey: He's paying with 10 grand chips and they're like, whoa, fucking hell. And then he is gonna just drop a. A mil. Yeah. On a roll of the dice. Just to get the, the pit boss to phone up, get it all approved

Dan: got one and they know what it means. And they're talking about dollars or thousands, they're talking about the big 1 million. He signs the check and he goes dice is more your game.

Or I wish, should've known that a minute ago before I lost a hundred grand on, on cards. So then he gives her the dice. It tells you, aren't you forgetting something? Yeah. Kiss on that, blow on that for luck. And she rolls him down, rolls at seven, wins him a million dollars, he puts it in the account and then begins to thank her and Woody as [00:10:00] for lending him his wife.

Sidey: They say, oh,

Reegs: pit boss as well, like crushes his coffee cup in rage.

Sidey: Probably done his bonus for the year.

They're about to fuck off though because they are skin again. And he says, no, no, you don't, don't leave. You know, you've just won me a million. I'll get you a suite. You know, stay for the night dinner, blah, blah, blah. Actually, I'm having a party in my suite. Yeah. You guys, you must come. So they go back to them to freshen up, knock on the door.

It's says Lackey comes with the

Reegs: Shackleford, who they've dropped already a line about he's killed a man, you know, or something so

Dan: I, I think they do that a little bit later when they're playing Paul. But he is very close to that part when he's just met him, delivers this dress that she

Sidey: is the one, she was

Dan: goes, oh,

Sidey: up

Dan: He was like, how'd you know that I was looking at it earlier? Anyway, he, they go upstairs and he's, you know, she's looking hot. He's in a, a suit cheaper than

Reegs: I know he didn't even send a tux for him. So she's in like a ball gown, looks like absolutely knockout.

And he's

Sidey: looked like a bit of a saga holiday.

Everyone in there was in their sixties it looked like, apart from these who were, you know, the young up and [00:11:00] comings

Reegs: it's boomers, man. They had all the money,

Sidey: true. Anyway, the party, they all fuck off back to bed, I guess isn't but the party's still going on. It's, woody and his Smithers are there, and Gage is like gonna like up the ante a little bit here.

Reegs: He starts a long philosophical talk about what money can buy you and trying to say that money can't buy love essentially.

Dan: given these hypothetical situations.

And then moving out the hypothetical to the point of insulting him where Woody and Demi where he says, well, no, I'm not joking. A million dollars one night at your

Sidey: makes a proposal, Dan.

Reegs: an indecent

Sidey: you could say it's an indecent one,

Dan: actually, actually, you're right. He does. Yeah.

Reegs: But she does, he says, but again, right. This conversation about her is all done between the two men and he says to Woody, I, you know, what would you say?

She answers for him. He'd tell you to go to hell. He's like, I asked him what he'd say

Sidey: and when he's talking about it, he says, if you were mine, I'd never say you, I'd never give you any.

Reegs: know. He is just like, what the fuck? It's [00:12:00] so mis Anyway, so they, they turn it down even though he leaves it ringing in his ears, you know, 24 hours with your wife for a lifetime of change, answer everything, and that, and they go back and they have a restless night.

Sidey: She just obviously wants to fuck him.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, that is all, yeah. Pretty

Sidey: because she's the driving force by, and she's like, well, I can't sleep, but you're thinking about it. He's like, like, I think he's a bit insulted. It's like maybe a, a crumb of temptation. I can't

Dan: we're talking about this, he says

Sidey: she's like, well, it would just be my body. And like, oh, right, okay. You wanna fuck,

Reegs: Yeah. She's been rubbing a special bunny pillow all evening. Probably. I mean,

Dan: yeah, you, you

kind of turn the situation round and you think a really attractive woman wants to sleep with the husband. And the husband's like, fucking a million for this baby.

Reegs: Yeah. They, they do go into their very lengthy justifications about it just being a physical thing about them both having had lovers before they'd met each other. She was 19. So anyway but they contracted, [00:13:00] signed the next day with Jeremy.

Sidey: Oliver Plat. Pla

Reegs: playing Jeremy the

Sidey: He see, he's raging. So you should have spoke to me first.

I could've got you 2 million.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. For a woman like Diana, he's, he's actually having an interview with two other guys who want a really cutthroat lawyer and as

he,

Reegs: they're pitching Diana Ross and Billy Ray Cyrus doing A Star is

Sidey: Tennis.

Reegs: amazing.

Dan: And they've, yeah, they've, they've then sort of seen enough of him on the phone saying, I'll get 2 million for your wife. They go, yeah, you are hired. You're just the kind of guy we want. I, I really like him actually in this role. I thought he was just slimy enough. But he's good friends with Woody from college and everything.

So he goes and writes a contract and he's saying, look, you still, if you can't get it up, you're still.

Sidey: If you die, you still pay the million.

Dan: you, if you die in the act, you still gotta pay the million and red and Redford. You think Literally it's just the million that he won from her. Like, I know it's a night for him.

It's, How, how?

Reegs: is a lot of[00:14:00]

Dan: How they took, how they took the first offer.

Sidey: Desperate and they didn't think it was real. Really.

Reegs: It was 1993 as well. That million dollars was probably a lot of money in

Dan: worth 2.2. I look that up.

Sidey: Nice. Good inflation sta so, so they do do it, they do come to this agreement really sort of reluctantly. Okay, fine. Just we never speak about it afterwards.

Reegs: Well, he goes to some hilarious novelty themed restaurant, doesn't he?

With Jeremy to

Dan: Well, it looks like hell, doesn't it? Because fire's coming

Sidey: is a talking tree.

Dan: a

talking

tree, which makes him just run off down the hall

Sidey: Instantly changes his mind.

Dan: Try to stop her as the helicopter's pulling away.

Reegs: He runs back up to the hotel room and there's the maid up up.

Yeah. She's like,

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. They, they fucked off to his fucking massive sun seeker.

Reegs: yeah.

Dan: And, he's he's got a, yeah, the helicopter on the yacht and the yacht is parked out somewhere.

Sidey: If you can [00:15:00] land a, a helicopter on your yacht, that's gonna be worth a few

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: yeah.

though it didn't look super huge yacht

Sidey: well you go buy one,

Dan: was but yeah. Okay. The, the helicopter gave it some scale.

Reegs: yacht was bigger than mine, put it

Dan: he had a like a, a guy playing piano in there. He's got, ton of staff just waiting on, she's, is

Sidey: was that Herbie Hancock?

Reegs: on the piano? Was it

Sidey: was 'cause he's in this film as himself, I didn't know.

Must have been, it might have been when he's, when he's, when they're doing the auction.

Dan: I reckon it is. 'cause there's a small kind of little No and speaking part or, well not

Sidey: Yeah. Anyway he starts to now be a bit of an ass. And she's sort of, look, I thought you just wanted to fuck. Yeah.

Because he's to still make trying to make his point. Yeah. About I can buy you. Yeah. And I dunno if it's this point or it's later on when he says, well, the reason that I kind of went after you is because you said you couldn't be bought. So I had to, he has to win. Super competitive with it. Yeah. Ego and all that.

Reegs: I think that's this bit here. And we what [00:16:00] seals it because she's very unsure about all of this and he gives her a chance to kind of void it a, a, a coin flip. Like, we'll, you know, let's, we'll call the whole thing off if, if it's heads or and it isn't, and then they instantly go off and fuck.

Dan: did anybody

know what kind of coin that was?

Reegs: I know, yeah, yeah, exactly. But I don't know. That seemed to like the coin flip. She seemed to be

Sidey: like, well, no. She says, well, maybe you won't even be any fucking good or, you know, I won't enjoy it. He's like, you'll

Dan: maybe you will. Little

Reegs: He was like, he didn't worry about that, did he?

Yeah.

Dan: no, that's it.

And. And

Sidey: I think we just face it back to

Dan: the room the

next

Sidey: day where she goes back to see Woody and he smears her lipstick and they fuck.

Straight away.

Reegs: away. Yeah. She's probably still got his calm in her

Sidey: I thought. Could you like taste his dick?

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

I would say have a good wash first. Love, I mean, but there you go.

Sidey: in the chef fuck

Dan: she, she must have been exhausted. You know, well

Sidey: well, so these are the sort of things that now are going through Woody's head.

He cannot get over it, obviously, as he wouldn't be able to. Yeah. Was he better? Was he good? But No. What did you do? Where did[00:17:00]

Reegs: do? Well, eventually he'll ask was he bet, you know, was he, oh, was he good?

Or whatever.

Sidey: why he's thinking the whole time. But they had agreed that they weren't gonna talk about it, but he

Dan: she could have just fu and said, I'll tell you what, it's absolute crap he couldn't even get it up. But there's the mill, we're in the money. But she didn't think of that.

Reegs: Well because when it comes out, it's in the context of a conversation where she has to be truthful for once.

'cause there's a lot of like dilly ding and all that stuff. And important,

Dan: it's

Reegs: Because the home has been foreclosed and repossessed.

Sidey: they would because Yeah. They,

Reegs: and they haven't worked it out straight away

Sidey: Like they, they take the money and they go to clear all their debts. Yeah. But because of some timing

Dan: two days

Sidey: two days they fucked it. And someone else

who could it be has, has come in and, and swept up the property.

Dan: She's, and yeah, they

Sidey: have this thing just gnawing away at their relationship and wouldn't you know it, it all goes to

Reegs: It

Dan: does. Well, she's got a friend who works in real estate 'cause she works in real estate and she finds out who's bought it even though she

Sidey: This is a real OMG moment,

Dan: wait a [00:18:00] minute, it's

Reegs: there's no GDPR there.

Sidey: It's

Dan: is a company that gay

Sidey: it's Dr. Greenage. Yeah.

Dan: she goes and confronts him in a restaurant. Froze kind of food all over people that he's with. He's, he's kind of just laughing really because

Reegs: of an absolute sociopathic dick.

He's a just,

Sidey: he's right. This is to me, like unforgivable. You've ruined their relationship. Yeah. Now you've ni their gaff and he placates it by saying, well, you, I, it was an opportunity and I took it. And she goes, oh, okay.

Reegs: And do you wanna come and work for me as well? Like, what are you doing?

Dan: that, that was, that made me really kind of think, this guy's a piece of work because it's not enough that he's, he's stolen this guy's.

Wife, we've, we've thrown money at desperate people, but he's also now stolen their dream that they knew, yeah, that was what the money was for. But he, he won't stop at anything. Getting the girl at this stage. I think it's gone beyond just competition for him. He actually does kind of start to care for her in the, or at [00:19:00] least more than

Sidey: think it's just an infatuation that

Dan: yeah,

Sidey: Anyway, they, he, he convinces her, I think he just gaslights her and brainwashes her into like basically game with him.

Reegs: Yeah. Well first they separate, don't they?

David and

Sidey: he gets really rowdy.

He smashes some bottles of wine around there and yeah, he gets fairly like rowdy sticks.

Reegs: I think they show their relationship to be essentially like

Sidey: fairly

Reegs: fairly abusive.

Yeah. So yeah, they do go, he goes and lives with Jeremy and she's working at this shitty fucking real estate place and he rocks up going, can you show me $10 million homes?

And her boss is like, well, off you've gotta go and show him

Sidey: That was Rip Taylor.

Reegs: Oh, rip Taylor. Rip torn. Yeah. I couldn't believe

Sidey: Not Rip torn. Rip Taylor.

Reegs: Taylor. Rip Taylor.

Sidey: Yeah. He just all the like. Stupid confetti

Reegs: stuff

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Sidey: Yeah. What's he doing in this?

Dan: he's, he said look, if you don't go, you're fired. So again, he's put her in a really. Difficult position where this guy that has paid to sleep with her and is now paying to get her to show houses or she's gonna [00:20:00] lose her job.

And she goes around looking at all these houses. Eventually they go to his house.

Reegs: E goes, what do you reckon that one's worth? She's like, 30 This is

Sidey: What do you, what, what do you think this house would make this house better?

Reegs: A life.

Sidey: It's Couple of dogs, and

Reegs: He's like gonna set her up in his $30 million house with a all that, but she's got time to think about it and he's gonna continue the charm thing, but she's now gonna magic up a second job as a translator or something, isn't it?

Or

Sidey: She's teaching. Like immigrants, you know, people are trying to get their qualities

Reegs: I mean, this literally comes out of complete nowhere. They don't even

Sidey: well, they both become, they both become educators. You're like, what?

Reegs: Yeah, I know. They both make career moves. Right? Okay, fine. To become teachers of some sort. And then Gage turns up and just fucking disrupts that and makes a

Sidey: mockery bit, which

Reegs: doing like real good work with,

Sidey: in the community.

Yeah.

Dan: Woody gets a job teaching architecture and starting to get his life back together after some rough patches. At one point [00:21:00] he's. Gone to confront them as they've got their relationship going. Outside a posh restaurant, he takes a swing. The guy who said to have killed somebody is lackey has takes him home.

He is like

Reegs: is the worst swing and miss as, as a punch I've ever seen in a It is so bad. He looks like he's, I dunno.

Dan: Yeah, it is pretty shocking. But he wakes up and kind of pulls his life together a little bit after that.

Sidey: He kind of resigns himself, sort of. 'cause he's not, he is gonna come back, but at this point he's like, well, fuck it.

She's

Reegs: Yeah. So they do. I don't know. It is, like you said, maybe they gaslight her in to do it. They do eventually consent to having a relationship together. Diana and GI had really had lost interest at this point, so you maybe you could tell me.

They have a big kiss and the movie's trying to tell me it was all romantic and stuff. And then, oh, this bit, there's a moment towards the end of the film where he finds a, David finds a box of their old stuff. Yeah. And there's a hippo. Do you remember this bit? Yeah. And he, and there's like wistful music starts [00:22:00] on the soundtrack and he's playing with the dog and he's sitting next to the dog on the couch and he brings the dog up to the hippo, up to the dog's face, and then it's cut with a shot of an actual hippo.

So from a moment we're put in the dog's perspective.

Sidey: you know,

Dan: Yeah, it was a strange

Reegs: of a terrifying hippo. It is such a strange choice. Yeah. So,

Sidey: but it's gonna kind of come to your head with more hippo stuff.

Reegs: Yeah, exactly.

Sidey: So the, the, the thing, the, the image I remember from the trailers and the posters, whatever, was her with the parasol.

And this is this bit at the really snooty auction to.

Dan: to save endangered species

Sidey: dural event. Yeah.

Reegs: got,

Dan: it is nothing like a double event. They've got like orangutans just, just

Sidey: milling around

Dan: as people are

Sidey: people are. Could literally rip someone's arm off.

Reegs: o ostriches

Dan: Yeah, it's like, yeah.

Sidey: because there's a woman holding an Iran and I'm thinking that could just rip someone's arm off, surely.

Dan: And well, it's a little baby one absolutely terrified, I think. And then you've got a snake and everything. They show a picture of a hippo, which is going up in 10,000,

Reegs: It's Billy [00:23:00] Connolly. Did we say that?

Sidey: Yeah. And there's this women singing is Sheena Easton. Yeah. They really brought out all the stars for this.

Dan: they did, I mean, this is big, swanky stuff and and even introduced himself as Billy Connolly as you know, a big star

Sidey: He's like, lol. We couldn't bring a real hippo here because that would be

Reegs: today. Oh, and just before this, David has signed divorce papers,

Dan: No, no, he, he, he, he, he literally goes 1 million and

Sidey: Well, the first turn around, first there's a bidding war between Gage

Reegs: and

some

Dan: a random

Sidey: some

Reegs: Some 30

grand, 40

Sidey: obviously not gonna lose to a woman because that ego is not gonna stand for

Dan: he is Ben 50 grand, which is not being responded to for this hippo. And then.

Sidey: a voice to say, David, 1 million. $1 million.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: $1 million. And even Gage can't be fucked for that. He just goes, okay.

Reegs: Well, he gave up everything he had for her

Dan: and she said, oh, I really wanted you to have that

Reegs: for,

Dan: I really wanted,

Reegs: I really

Dan: wanted you to have that money.

He [00:24:00] goes, I really want you to have that hippo, and then the heavens open and. It's just those two are

Sidey: left, Gabe says

Reegs: do they sign the divorce papers? 'cause that's, is it now, is

Sidey: he, Gabe says, do you two want to have a moment in private? And he lets them. Have their chat while he's fucking stares at her.

And he realizes that actually they might be in love, whereas everything he's

Dan: he

Sidey: is completely transactional.

Dan: he's, he's looking at her and looking at. Them having this conversation and he goes, you know, I just realized actually

Sidey: well, no, 'cause he is a bit of, if he's an asshole here. So afterwards, after the divorce papers, they're in the limo again, g and her going along and he and they sort of having a chat and he says, well, you know how many fucking million dollar you're part of the million dollar

Dan: You were the best of.

Reegs: I think he says it's to Shackleford, doesn't he? Or how many does that make it now in the Million Dollar Girl

Sidey: I, I was like, is this just an innate thing where Shackter knows to go along with this? Because I, it wasn't

Reegs: a bit unsure at first, isn't he?

Sidey: But rather than just saying to her, actually, know I don't love you.

You should [00:25:00] go off with your husband, who you're clearly in love with. He invents this twisted scenario where there's a million other women around the world that he's paid off. And I'm like, you're a fucking psychopath. Yes.

Reegs: He's yeah. A complete psychopath.

Dan: Yeah. And, and Woody's already said, you know, that he feels that actually he's just got more money than me.

This guy. He is not a better man than me. He's just got, and I was

really, I know,

Reegs: but why can't Redford, I mean, in that moment, Redford is supposed to really say. your husband loves you and I don't.

Dan: well, he, he does say that to Shackleton afterwards, doesn't he? He does

Sidey: He says no. He says she'll never look at me the way she looks at him.

Yeah. But I still don't think that

the psycho that we've been shown would give up. He's still like, this is as admitting defeat. I don't think he would do that anyway. She

Dan: probably built a fucking car park on that land,

Reegs: but why couldn't she have decided to bin him off anyway? I don't really

Sidey: the movie shit.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: she was getting to that point, wasn't she? She was

Sidey: getting

well, only when he tells her that he's, she's just another conquest. So she goes to the pier

Dan: even because he in the [00:26:00] car. He, she says to him, we've gotta talk. Then immediately he

Reegs: he kicks into that,

Dan: oh, he

Sidey: so before he gets Kib Boshed, he does the kiboshing.

Yes. He

Reegs: throws himself on the grenade.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: I wanted to end it.

Sidey: So she goes to the pier and Woody house is trying to throw one out

Reegs: Oh, he does. Just before they go he gives her his lucky coin just to go like, I fucking shafted you on that, eh?

Like I

Sidey: long. Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah, take the

Sidey: totally. What a rip.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: a necklace.

Reegs: Can't take that back.

Sidey: Yeah, Willie Harrison's trying to get his numbers up on the p and she interrupts him and, she says 'cause they've had this thing, it's like ghosts, you know, when he says ditto and this, it's like, have I ever said that I love you or some

Dan: Still,

always

Sidey: yeah. And they hold hands over the other side of the bench and they

Reegs: And then presumably Woody gets an erection again. I think

Dan: a little bit

Sidey: And they're happy and in love. It's all great.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Not quite, but I mean, there's sense that they might be able to turn things around and rekindle their love after a hugely crap fucking few months where he prostituted off his [00:27:00] wife and she did much the same. She

Sidey: I think she was more keen than him.

Reegs: She was kind of, there's a shot where she realizes she's getting the dress and the camera like, zooms in, Dolly, zooms in to show her excitement. Like literally, oh, the money is getting me right. Going.

Dan: but I guess that would be, you know, or could be the case where she's An attractive guy who's a fucking billionaire showing her all this interest and how quickly that could spiral

Sidey: they've told us, all they've told us in the run up to that is how in love these two are.

Yeah. That's the only thing they've said about them. They're

Dan: but how desperate they are as well, because the, the dream of his house and, you know, he is always talked about it. He owes money to his dad. He's like all these kind of, you know, financial,

Sidey: didn't think that any of it made any sense. I didn't actually like Redford in this because the, 'cause just the character's such an asshole and I don't really associate Redford with that sort of character and, [00:28:00] and her motivation for going with him just seemed fucking off.

But how is a dick as well? For ev I, the whole thing was, it was just so many question marks in my head the whole way through. Like, why the

Reegs: And it's the, the whole way the movie is framed is just, Demi Moore is an object for the two men to own And it's just not very nice, like seeing it through that lens.

Now, they maybe was a more interesting movie about the moral dilemma and the desperation that you were talking about, Dan, and, you know, how could you, you know, the things it would do to change

Dan: Yeah, I suppose our modern kind of eyes were, look, look and frame this slightly differently as it would've done years ago, back in the nineties where women were much more objectified and you know, money a billionaire and Robert Redford was, you know, an A-list celebrity. And actually. Would you let your, you know, a million was, you know, it must be a hundred million now or something.

Sidey: I'd have preferred it if he'd offered a million to fuck Willy Harrison.

Reegs: Yeah, [00:29:00]

Dan: well, or

Reegs: oh, I'd have, if I was Harrison, I'd be like, it's 10 million and I get to sit in the cuck chair and

Dan: Well this is it. I would've thought you just struck a deal somewhere.

Um, what the

Sidey: was the best character in this, and he was right. He should have let him negotiate it.

Dan: what would've cost you know, what it should have cost him. a million dollars. I mean,

Is

is there any amount of money that could make you turn your

Reegs: think it would, it would destroy your relationship.

It's this movie show. So I think it would, for most

Sidey: the movie gets. Right.

Dan: And w would, would it be the fact that he was quite, you know, an attractive man certainly didn't hurt his odds in

Sidey: I offering

I mean, I'd offer a million to

Reegs: I tell, I think I was sort the same as, yeah, pay a million. I was sort of the same as sidey, like deeply unlikable characters, basically all of them.

And like a sort of childish naivety about the, their own relationship, even though they've been in it for a long [00:30:00] time. And Woody Harrelson's character growth is essentially, remembers not to put muddy. Fucking shoes on the table. That's at the beginning. He leaves them there and at the end he remembers to take him off.

Like, fucking hell.

That

Dan: a harsh

Reegs: is not a journey as far.

yeah. Could have been an interesting exploration of men's toxic feelings of ownership about women, but it wasn't because they didn't really understand that that was the movie they were making.

Sidey: No,

they did get to see as a erect penis. Yeah. Or an outline

Reegs: Yeah. Through his boxes. Yeah.

Dan: So a hard recommend.

Reegs: Yeah. Hard one. Yeah.