Dec. 20, 2023

Midweek Mention... Violent Night

Midweek Mention... Violent Night

Welcome back to another episode of Bad Dads Film Review! Today, we're donning our Santa hats and diving into the action-packed, darkly comedic world of Violent Night.

Violent Night takes the classic holiday movie and flips it on its head. Think less 'Miracle on 34th Street' and more 'Die Hard' meets 'Bad Santa.' This isn't your typical feel-good Christmas film; it's a wild ride that blends festive cheer with high-octane action.

The story unfolds on Christmas Eve, as a group of mercenaries breaks into a wealthy family's home. But little do they know, this house is under the watchful eye of a very different kind of Santa Claus. This Santa is more about fighting than gifting, and he's not afraid to get his hands dirty to save the holiday.

This film reinvents Saint Nick, turning him into an action hero with a heart of gold and fists of steel. It's a refreshing take on the jolly old elf, delivering thrills, spills, and a fair share of laughs.

Violent Night is a decent blend of genres, appealing to those who love a good action flick, as well as fans of unconventional Christmas movies. It's filled with witty one-liners, intense fight scenes, and a unique story that keeps you guessing. The film manages to be both a parody of and a love letter to the holiday season.

So, grab some eggnog, kick back, and join us for a deep dive into the merry mayhem of Violent Night. It's a holiday film with a twist, perfect for Dads looking for a little more action with their tinsel. 🎅🎄🥊🎬👨‍👧‍👦

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Transcript

Violent Night

Sidey: Violent Night 2022. Dan, this was not your

Dan: It wasn't, no. It wasn't. Um, It may have been.

Reegs: I think it was, yeah

Sidey: A chap at work Nathan recommended it. He said it was very good. Well, he enjoyed it and so as we're trying to cram a load of Christmas content in the next few weeks, this seems like a good place to start.

Reegs: Yeah, and I knew pretty much nothing at all about this movie.

I didn't even know that it was an 87 North Productions, which is the guys, David Leitch and the other guy who wrote Nobody, which we reviewed and loved on this pod and a few other great action movies. So, oh, they did Bullet Train, which I still haven't seen.

Sidey: seen.

I knew that it was David Harbour, and that it was, you know, a different take on the Christmas story. But I didn't know that John Leguizamo was in it, and I had a great big smile on my face when he appeared. It was fun to see him. It starts off in Bristol, though, of all places.

Reegs: all places.

Cris: Bristol, England.

Sidey: yeah.

Reegs: in a bar, drinking.

Sidey: Yeah, it looked like an American bar, I have to say. It had that kind of feel. But he was it wasn't obvious that he was in Incom was the real Santa No, he was just a disgruntled guy. And then an another Santa dude comes in and is

Reegs: He's more like the real Santa, jolly, you know, does it for

Dan: a supermarket Santa. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: but still, loves his job, a happy one

Cris: Yeah, or does a pint, like,

Reegs: Santa is, is kind of drunk and

Sidey: Barlay system, you know. Do you want another one? He says, well, I'm still vertical. So yeah, keep pouring him he's fucking pissed and he's shabby looking and dirty. He's he's in a

Dan: he's in a pretty bad state. He's still in a

Sidey: steer a little bit but the reindeers do most of the work he says.

Yeah

Reegs: work. He's talking to the other Santa about the increasing materialism of children and doesn't it piss you off and that sort of thing.

And, you know. It doesn't seem to be completely, too profound until he goes upstairs

Sidey: He leads through the back door and she says, That door leads to upstairs. And you're like, hang on.

Dan: like, what are you doing?

Oh, I've got to go and get another drunk from upstairs. So she goes

Sidey: Well she

Dan: course it's just empty up there. There's, there's no one there, but there's a little jingle jingle. And yeah.

Sidey: She looks like she has this like in awestruck kind of look on her face as he's flying off in the sled with the reindeer pulling him and he looks over the side and chunders, which lands right on her head.

Reegs: Massive batch of puke all over her face and I so I had no idea really what this movie was so suddenly I'm like, oh right. This is the real Santa so we're gonna have a kind of genre mash up of like feel good Christmas movie with Crazy action, which I was delighted because I just knew nothing about this movie.

So and that was something I could get behind

Sidey: Yeah. And then he's, so I guess they're saying the, it works in a time zone thing and that he's in England first and then he's off into the States

Reegs: There are

Cris: Well, yeah, they move straight away,

Sidey: there are some rules that they do establish which become important for the plot, like how the mechanics of things work. But then we,

Reegs: But we get a big scene of him like flying over the city and sort of talking about why he is the drunk bad Santa, if you inverted commas, that he is.

And it's, you know, he's kind of disillusioned about humanities,

Dan: It's like a little montage of him going down chimneys and he's got this magic that gets him down. And he's given out Amazon vouchers and cash and he's pretty pissed off with it all

Reegs: become just transactional

Dan: like, What

do you want? Cash, cash, cash, cash, cash video game.

Reegs: Yeah. And yeah, and kids, like, you know, barely opening one present before they move on,

Dan: But he's got, he's got his list, like his magical list. So who's on the naughty and nice list. It's and, and the sack as well, which is, you know, it can pull out a ladder, it can pull out a rabbit, it can pull out a video game or, or whatever else there.

Reegs: It does require a massive suspension of disbelief, then, to have a world where Santa is real and adults don't believe in him. Now. Because they are, because he is shown to leave gifts and all that sort of stuff. So,

Sidey: Yeah, you'd be thinking, well, who's been in the house, because I didn't fucking buy that. Yeah,

Dan: like that. Yeah. We also get a flashback, fairly early on, about him being some kind of warrior.

Reegs: Yeah,

well you see him steeped in blood, I think. But, and that will be expanded upon.

Dan: A little bit later on, yeah. But it was, it was it piqued my interest that bit. I thought, oh, yeah, well he's kind of like a, a Viking goddess. You know, he was like a, a real hard man. And you just saw a quick image of chaos behind him and just holding up his arms. And you thought, well, okay, Santa's, Santa's pretty ripped.

Sidey: So we get to meet the, the family,

Reegs: the Lightstone family, and you get the, the sort of well, there's Jason, I think it is Alex Hassel, who looks like he wandered straight in off a Hallmark movie. He's got that real like cheesy Christmas look to him. And he's there with his estranged wife, Linda, who is played by Alexis louder that we saw in cop shop that we

Sidey: Oh, okay. yeah.

Reegs: good in that.

Sidey: It wasn't obvious to me immediately, but maybe I'd looked away or glanced at my phone or something that they weren't getting on. I, I hadn't clocked that straight away.

And it's not until the daughter wishes that the parents get back together or, or, or, you know, work their problems out. And I was like, Oh, cause they're not rowing

Reegs: No, they seem pretty amicable and later we'll

Sidey: later

Reegs: They're awful. It Yeah, we

meet their, is it their nephew?

Sidey: it their

Dan: Yeah!

Sidey: Yo, yo, yo, he's doing

Reegs: It was amazing. Hashtag blessed. I think he

Cris: hashtag blessed.

Sidey: Which is a lyric in a Tsar face song

Reegs: yeah, like a bit as our faces. You saw in my Spotify actually.

Sidey: He's he's awful his mother is particularly hideous. The father

Reegs: and,

and she is Jason's sister. He's going to be one of the main characters in the movie and and she's going out with this wannabe action star.

Sidey: Did you see who it's based on?

Reegs: No, who is it?

Sidey: Mark Wahlberg.

Because he does, he, he's an, he's obviously an actor and he does a thing about how if he'd been on one of the planes at 9 11.

Reegs: yeah. Wahlberg

Sidey: Wahlberg said it, yeah.

Reegs: sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sidey: it all and like profusely apologize for so bad taste. He says all that and it's, yeah, it's all based on him.

Reegs: So they're just the most appalling people. Morgan Steele, his name is. He's this wannabe action star. He's absolutely appalling. During one of the chase sequences later, he's gonna slide across the couch as he runs just for no reason.

It's amazing.

Sidey: amazing.

Reegs: Anyway,

Sidey: and there's

Reegs: Oh, and there's Gertrude. That's the

one. Yeah,

Sidey: the one. Yeah, everybody's

Reegs: No, Gertrude the Matriarch. Beverly D'Angelo's character.

Sidey: Yes, so, She was quite hot, I thought.

She's awful, she's giving someone an absolute, like, dressing down over the phone and at the end of the call she's just like, OK, thank you Senator, so she's like, really like, high powered super, super wealthy, they've got a whole entourage of staff.

Reegs: They've got a whole entourage of staff.

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: they, they,

Dan: Yeah. No, they, they, the family themselves all, Super nervous when she gets off the phone. They don't know whether to come forward or go and she's just

Sidey: oh, she's a matriarch part excellence,

Dan: commanding this power

and They they start to open presence don't they and things but then this this starts to happen. They they have

Sidey: yeah, some on radios the staff turn out to be the villains.

Dan: Well it comes, it comes on the front doesn't it? In the, in the car park area they've got one of those little sentry boxes and a guy comes in and he goes, oh, my car's broke down. Next thing it's the classic. He's, he's shot him

Sidey: John Nakazama. Yeah, he

Reegs: And that guy had already had a backstory about how he was having to work

Dan: Yeah, yeah. He was just cut out

Reegs: man, and then he's just

Sidey: great writing and he radios the rest of the people and they've all got amusing kind of Christmas nicknames like

gingerbread and all that sort of

Reegs: gingerbread, yeah,

Sidey: So yeah, the house is under siege, and for reasons, they've got something like 300 million dollars of

Reegs: yeah,

Sidey: the vault, for plot reasons I guess, but it wasn't clear to me why someone

would

Reegs: It really felt like they were trying to do something with Santa's message of materialism and shit, but they don't, so

Dan: so No.

Reegs: mean, you shouldn't suggest these things in the movie if you don't want me to think them, I don't, so yeah, anyway.

Dan: During this time Santa is well, he's still pretty pissed off. He's, he's had a, actually had found some nice cookies and some nice kind of milk and he thinks, well, actually just put some, some booze in instead, doesn't

Reegs: because he's visiting to deliver these presents to these awful people, except one of them, the kid, Trudy, makes her sound like a whore, says the grandma. She she's like a true believer or whatever, and she's been given a kind of walkie talkie by her dad to talk to

Sidey: The dad forgot to he's been now painted as being an absentee father.

Yeah. And he had forgotten to take, like they have a tradition where they go to the mall and see Santa and he's been so caught up with his work or whatever it is that he says that he's forgotten to take over to last minute to make it up. He comes up with this thing of giving her a walkie talkie, which is a special one, which although Santa might not be able to reply straight because it's Christmas Eve and he's busy, he will hear your messages and you know, know what to do.

So

Dan: the day

Sidey: he kind of saves that, but then starts rowing with his missus and And we get to learn that they're they're not getting on great. That's when she says she wants the parents to be together But santa is like you say he's in It's a mansion. I mean, there's a million rooms. He's in a study Somewhere where it's got all of the decent booze.

Yeah. So he's drinking this old whiskey or rum

Reegs: fucking old whiskey

Sidey: is. Yeah. And then it all starts to kick off and someone comes into that room and we get our first little bit of action. They they have a pretty decent scrap. He's I think he's a bit rusty at this point.

Reegs: Yeah, absolutely.

Sidey: it takes him, like, it's a decent scrap.

Choreography is pretty good. But it takes him a good few minutes to take down this one

Reegs: yeah, and a lot of it is kind of pushing and tackling into like a good Christmas related like fight, you know, going through a Christmas tree and that sort of stuff. And earlier we've been shown a a stalagmite?

well an icicle outside and wouldn't you know it at the tail end of this fight after a brutal bit, there's a, this is the one where he's like smacking him over the pool table and stuff, isn't

Sidey: Yeah, this guy goes out the window and is impaled on the stalagmite. The next guy he fights he kills him with the Christmas tree star to the eye, which he, which the guy just, the guy's a bit like terminators keeps coming.

And

Reegs: then he plugs it in,

Sidey: got nothing else to say. Switches on the decoration and he fucking head catches fire. It's brilliant.

Reegs: Yeah. It's really good, yeah. If you're gonna call your movie Violent

Sidey: night, make it violent. You've

Reegs: to make it violent and they deliver on that in spades, I would say.

Dan: Yeah. No, and yeah, so Santa has now been rumbled. They know this special forces group that is taking the family ransom, this rich family, that somebody else, they've got a rogue, they've got somebody who's spoiling their evening but they're carrying on ahead.

Sidey: The grandmother has a panic button, doesn't she? She actually activates the panic button, which brings this, you know,

Dan: of

Sidey: this home invasion rescue crew on site.

Like Die Hard

Reegs: Home Alone,

Sidey: so there's basically loads of Home Alone, Die Hard and Die Hard 2 references in this. And those guys turn up, but there's a, they flip reverse it by making these guys in on the plan to steal the money there.

Dan: And that's how they've got all the information. They know there's a vault downstairs with 300 million in cash,

Sidey: for some

Reegs: And they're trying to get the combination out of him. This is one thing I didn't really like in the movie where it's good that they use the nutcracker for a dramatic effect or like that Christmas violin thing, but they break his fingers and then that just, he's fine for the rest of the movie.

They never mentioned it again.

Sidey: I don't want

Dan: no.

Reegs: Even though he's shown to be an agonizing pain for a single scene. Anyway so yeah, John Leguizamo, Mr. Scrooge, is this when he reveals his backstory about why he hates

Sidey: It does at some point, it's fairly throwaway, but what we have now is probably 30, 20, 30 people on the villain side and one Santa Claus

Reegs: they're all on the naughty list as well. It's quite important to point that out.

Sidey: And because Basically, Santa's powers, his fighting powers are directly proportional to the amount of belief people have in him. So as Trudy is a true believer and he also, I think, starts to doubt himself because he, he does this tap of the nose thing, which is what ports him up through the chimney.

Yeah. It, it won't work at one point. He's, like, struggling to escape a fight or he's struggling to do something and as the, basically, the, the movie, once you get to about two thirds of the way through, it just fucking really accelerates the amount of the kill count. Yeah. And he remembers his Norse heritage.

You see him there and he's, he's He's, he's got a warhammer, which is a particularly fucking brutal weapon.

Reegs: was it called? Skull smasher. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: And we see he's fairly proficient with that.

Dan: And then well he

Sidey: just goes on a killing

Dan: Well, he stumbles across another one doesn't he it's a sledgehammer.

It's just got a ray of light sort of beaming on moon Yeah like that and he picks it up and then you know

Reegs: He's got his lust for killing back, yeah, and he does

Dan: And his rhythm

Reegs: and he takes down some guys, it's absolutely brutal, it's a little bit darker and a little bit closer than I like some of my action shot, but there's loads and loads of hideous, like, faces being mashed in and arms being pulled off,

Sidey: up, and Christmas

Reegs: themed stuff as well, like, Christmas stars are shurikens and that sort of

thing,

Sidey: goes from the hammer to the ice skates, where he just put, he wears the ice skates on his

Reegs: ice skates

Sidey: then is just slicing people, all over the place he decapitates the last guy it's brilliantly sort of pinned to a pillar in the barn and as it like the fight ends the body falls down

Reegs: in the barn, and at the fight ends, the body just falls down.

Yeah,

Dan: the radio,

I mean, She's got

Reegs: two villains supposed

Dan: Going full Die Hard

Sidey: but were these two villains supposed to look like the blonde ones from Die Hard? I

Reegs: I assume

Sidey: they looked like the brothers even though it was a dude and a chick.

Reegs: And candy cane. And she goes like, proper home alone on them. Like if home alone was real.

Sidey: And that's what the directors and the writers said. They wanted, they were like, if you watch home alone, all those things would be fatal. So

Reegs: let's see it.

See Yeah, and

Dan: that's it, so she's set up the loft ladder where she's hiding, And at the bottom, they see this bed of nails that is just so easy to step over, And they're like, oh my lord, is that what you've got little girl, you know?

Sidey: on the stairs, there's this one nail on the step, at the attic stairs, you know, there's really steep kind of stairs and he

shouts up.

Reegs: shot to make it look a bit ineffectual and

Dan: Yeah. Well, it does. Well, what she's done though is she's, she's sown through . Yeah. One of the other rungs. So,

Sidey: brutal.

Dan: As he goes up and he puts his head just at the height of the nail that his foot goes through his, his head, then Jaw gives away. Yeah. The Sta gives away and he's impaled by the store right through the jaw coming out.

Under his tongue. Yeah. He's like horrible. And he needs to wedge himself off that, and as he does it, accomplice

Sidey: climbs over him and goes up. But he falls back then when he

Reegs: Well, no, he stays there for a minute

Dan: he's impaled for a while

Reegs: and she goes up and immediately she releases about five or six bowling balls at him.

Dan: down like a chute towards her. And

Sidey: one of them He's

Dan: having to move this, but they're shuttling down the open shaft down where he's already impaled.

Sidey: He, he gets, He

he pulls his face off the nail and then he gets hit by the bowling ball which sends him back onto the bed of nails on the floor.

Reegs: and then subsequent bowling

Sidey: The next bit was really shit, I thought. He gets the nail, he gets one nail that's stuck in his arse cheek as he's climbing back up the ladder. And he just like idiotically holds it

Reegs: yeah. Yeah. It was stupid. What are you doing? Yeah.

Yeah,

Dan: he's like that, isn't he? What is that?

And there you go, the other bowling ball comes. Now

Sidey: through the

Dan: Now through the, he's gone. Yeah, it was. It was, it was

Sidey: one's in the loft now. Yeah. It's getting, she gets a good pummeling from the bowling balls. Then she steps in the comedy like acme glue on the floor. Her feet are stuck and she dodges a few bricks on a rope, but then the kid goes through on a punch bag and knocks her back.

onto the glue. The glue doesn't really do anything because she gets up, manages to take her shoes off and goes forward and has the girl pinned and you're just waiting and then Santa does, you just see a great big fucking sledgehammer come from the side and fucking

Reegs: She's

Sidey: She's there on the, well so the, the villain lady, I can't remember her name, she's like on the floor in a pile of rubbish. And he says to Judy you know, I'm here to help you, don't worry. You might want to just turn around, probably should close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears, and sing on jingle bells as loud as you can, and it fucking wallops that woman.

It's brutal. Brutal violence.

So I think at this point

It's

coming to a head with the money in the vault, Jason knows what's happened because he's actually stolen the money.

Dan: Yeah, they where they find that out when they actually get into the vault.

Yeah.

Sidey: he was going to do a runner.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: He's also told Gertrude, the matriarch, by earlier, because she's opened his card from him, which was going to be opened the morning after, and is basically saying, ah,

Dan: mor the morning. Yeah, the morning after he, he'd already robbed the money. So. Yeah, this is just a coincidence, a plan that her son was gonna steal the 300 million in the vault runoff with Trudy and the daughter to make the wife to make a brand new start of it.

The same night this lot have come in and they're pissed off when the money's not there.

Sidey: Well so's his wife because she's, she just wants him to get over the money side of it.

It's just all this baggage that is causing

Reegs: Yeah. It's brought him nothing but grief. Mm.

Sidey: and he's like, I know it's stupid now that you say it, but you know, what's done is done. And so they're, they're ushered out into

like

a shed kind of thing. Yes. Where he's stashed all the money under some boughs of hay, and

Reegs: It's a nativity scene.

Sidey: typical scene.

Yeah, It's quite amusing.

Reegs: because somebody's gonna be beaten to death

with,

Sidey: with, Baby Jesus. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! See, we're kind of like, coming to the, the climax of the movie, really, aren't we?

Reegs: Yeah, well, we haven't talked about Mr. Scrooge at all, but we probably should just briefly explain his backstory and he didn't have a lot of money. Again, all of this stuff coming in. when Scrooge was young, he broke into somebody else's house to steal gifts because they didn't have anything at all. You know, they were poor and he wanted just to experience that, you know, Christmas that everybody else was having. And he inadvertently kind of causes the death of this old man, doesn't he?

So, that's his backstory. That's why he hates Christmas

Sidey: Which seems like it's all on him really, it's not like Christmas is fault.

Reegs: Yeah. But then, yeah. But there is again, this thing of the movie talking to you about like poverty and materialism and stuff.

Dan: Santa does try to reach him at one point, doesn't he, and he says Robert, and he knows

Sidey: dead. If he still

Dan: knows, you know, and he'll, remember toys that they wanted and things like that a couple of the baddies at some point, but Eventually, it does come to a head and it's just gonna end one way

Sidey: Well, basically the house, they get, they get control, they get control of the house again, don't they?

And then the wife, Jason's wife is shooting at the gang from their house where they're in this kind of like lean to make sure chef shed thing. And so there's a, basically the matriarch, Gertrude and John Leguizamo and a couple of other lackeys go off on scheme of bills. snowmobiles

And

there's a few like special forces guys left which they have to take out there's some amusing fights with the nativity scene but really comes down to Santa takes the, I think it's some sort of makeshift thing that baby Jesus was sleeping on.

He takes that as

Dan: His manger!

Sidey: it. Yeah, that's what it's called. And he sleds after these guys, doesn't he?

Reegs: it's a little

Dan: yeah.

Sidey: And it's a little bit like the speeder bike chase in Return of the Jedi. A guy crashes into a tree.

He eventually catches up with him. I think, well, Gertrude gets thrown off the

And John Lucas, I was playing chicken with him.

He's like, come on, come on, you know, a bit like the Joker in Dark Night and he stood in front of a big tree stump. So, Santa tries to whack him and he just goes arse over tit on the so then we get the end boss fight. These two, you know, in front of a big chimney stack

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: and so they're having a fight.

He gets, I mean, he has been repeatedly injured. He's not like infallible

Reegs: get a great scene of him stitching up his wounds and then wrapping it with wrap, Christmas wrapping paper.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: so he's been really fucking beaten quite a lot. And in the fight, in this fight, he gets ice picked quite a lot. He gets almost like stigmated to the fucking to the wall.

But I think he just rips his hand straight through the ice pick. Did

Reegs: the the sack in this fight as well?

Because that's a great

Sidey: No, that's earlier on, and then they end up throwing the sack in the fire, don't they?

Reegs: Oh yeah, that's right.

Sidey: And he's about to be, he's about to be killed and John Leguizamo is saying if I can just fucking kill you then that's the end of Christmas, blah, blah, blah, all this sort of stuff.

And he just he's got the knife, one of those fights where the knife is just getting pushed closer and closer and closer and he realises that he's by the, by taps his nose and he ports through the chimney but because John Leguizamo isn't Santa he can't and he's just fucking horribly dismembered like by just what

Dan: the chimney. The force

Sidey: what can fit through the chimney goes through and he's just he just laughs he's holding his corpse and I think it's like supposed to be a ho ho ho kind of

Reegs: of thing, and you can

Sidey: just see how fucking like Yeah,

Reegs: he's become.

Dan: can't go through yeah go through a chimney

Sidey: in half. You can't go through. Yeah. He's the leader of the,

Reegs: the leader of the,

Sidey: forces dudes. The home invasion dudes. Yeah. He's dead.

Reegs: dead. Santa is, is gone. Killed. Yeah.

Sidey: There's enough time for him to give a little message to Trudy, the kid, about how she saved him and therefore saved Christmas, etc.

And they have this idea that they can maybe help him by keep the fire burning. So they get a load of the cash. And there again, is this sort of thing about the money doesn't matter. Family something. So they make a fire. I think the woman says about half a million quid's worth of cash they burn, but he's dead.

He does die. Yeah. And then it's fucking, I just, I don't know, the, the kid says, I believe in you. The mom says, I believe, I still believe in Santa and it goes around and you know that the last woman, there's Jason's sister, obviously doesn't like she just saying it

Reegs: yeah,

Sidey: enough to bring Santa back.

He's like, Oh, he's all right. And

Reegs: And it would have been fine, because this is the convention of the movie that we're watching, right?

It's up front that this is a Christmas movie. We know it's going to have this ending. It would be fine if these people weren't fucking awful, and their position of privilege is never addressed in the movie, even though they keep bringing up these fucking themes about money and materialism and stuff.

Stop doing that movie if you don't want me to think

Sidey: about it

Reegs: happy

Sidey: a fucking happy ending. He hasn't always been Santa, it's been a finite amount of time, so there's, like the Slayer in Buffy, there'll be another

Reegs: will be

Sidey: So I was like, it's okay for him to die, there'll be,

Reegs: be Yeah,

Sidey: will get the next Santa powers.

Some

Reegs: Some other merciless killing machine, because that's also about Mrs. Santa turns up with his sledgehammer to go, I'm glad you've got your lust for killing back, you should be a

Sidey: his skull crusher.

Reegs: Skullcrusher!

Dan: Well, there is a violent knight too.

Reegs: to the movie, really, isn't it?

Sidey: really, isn't it?

Dan: There is a violent

Reegs: Is there?

Yeah. I will

Sidey: the works, yeah.

Yeah, cut to Chase, I really enjoyed it.

Reegs: it. I did really enjoy this, but it's not

Sidey: have that issue.

Reegs: loads of stupid shit in this movie. The thing with the fingers bothered me so much, I can't tell you where. I fucking hate it when there's like a really obvious thing like that.

And just to keep bringing up all these themes and never, never talk about them. But then there's loads of great action movies and at some points I was watching it thinking this is my best ever Christmas movie. So it's too long though.

Dan: though.

Reegs: and

Dan: You know, there is no, there is no comeuppance for him. It's, it's just like, oh, well, they said like that rich bitch. She's continues to be a rich bitch. She's, she's fine.

Reegs: Think maybe, I don't know, because of all the mistakes and weirdness and all that stuff, there's probably a really great movie buried in

Dan: Yeah, well, I thought it was a really good.

Reegs: enjoyed.

Dan: Particularly as I say, when he went into, you, you saw a bit of pre Santa, what, what he was doing because it, it crept forward how he gave gifts and things as well at different times to the adults. And, and you thought, Oh, there's something in that origin story kind of thing.

But,

Sidey: There's

a million references to other movies that you can have fun picking out.

Dan, here's one for you. The logo on the catering company is called Farkas and Dill.

They were the two bullies from a Christmas story.

Reegs: Ah.

Dan: yeah.

Sidey: Loads of diehard stuff and all that. But do you remember we have a thing going of inanimate objects that appeared in two different movies like the cave from Swiss Army Man?

And some, I don't know, Batman movie, I think. And then there was the Overpass thing from La La Land and Speed. This one has the window in the attic that Trudy looks out of was also in Rise of Planet of the Apes. Where Caesar looks out of it. Isn't that, so, I love that.

Reegs: Yeah, that's good.

Sidey: good. So on that basis, it's a strong recommend.

Reegs: Yeah, no, I did really enjoy this, but it's stupid as well.

Dan: Yeah, if you're in the mood for stupid action, then this is it.