Only God Forgives

Only God Forgives

Sidey: This is a Nicholas winding, winding reining

Reegs: Winding reffing. Yeah.

Sidey: rein. We've watched one his before. Yeah. The blood sucking vampire freak ones with. Ellie Fanning, or whatever it was.

Reegs: Oh yeah. Ne not

Sidey: neon. Neon. Demon. Demon,

Reegs: yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: You, you were on that

Pete: Well, I did. That was actually, that was a nomination that I did. That you

Sidey: talked you into to do.

Reegs: And we're big fans of Drive as

Sidey: well.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Very much.

Reegs: fans

Pete: Drive, which I've never seen. I did watch Neon Demon.

Reegs: I think you would like drive.

Sidey: Definitely.

Cris: I think so too.

Pete: Possibly I'll give it a go.

Sidey: Hey, do you cost your mind back to Saturday morning?

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: You and I.

Pete: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, where were, I mean, obviously it was, it was dark, still dark when we, when we got

Sidey: yeah. We set off epic voyage journey. Yeah. But on that voyage of God, upwards of 12 miles at least. Yeah.

Pete: 932 feet of elevation as well.

Yeah.

Sidey: I said to you, what you doing tonight? And you said, oh, watching only [00:01:00] God. Forgives tonight with Cindy. Yeah. I've sold her on the premise that Ryan Gosling's in it and I was thinking to myself, well, I know a little bit about this film.

Cris: Oh, did you know?

Sidey: you know? Yeah. And it's probably not the the kind of Ryan Gosling fair that she's expecting.

Well,

Pete: it's

Reegs: He's different to Ken. Is he

Sidey: Little bit. And he is slightly book

different. Yeah.

Pete: Right. So I,

I,

thought Ryan Gosling, I've heard of him. He's easy on

Sidey: ice. He's fit. Yeah.

Pete: Yeah, that all like lu the misses it and then it kind of said like, dark, stylish thriller. And I thought, there we go.

It's gonna be like car chasers and shit. And it was set in Thailand, in Bangkok, so,

Sidey: prostitutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So,

Pete: What, what I can say from the outside, I think first of all, an apology to the listeners because. I am, even though I'm the only person that's seen this film in its entirety, I am undoubtedly the least qualified person to talk about it.

Because Chris, clearly you've seen other things by this director. I have seen Ian Diman. I remember it being good and [00:02:00] visually striking. Which this film undoubtedly is like one, one massive takeaway is just how you know, unbelievably kind of like. Style it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With like, and it is lots of like neons and and stuff, and

Reegs: that's very much his signature

Cris: And also even in the day, even the shots in the day, they look more like almost dark.

And Thailand's, you know, sunny and, yeah.

Pete: Yeah. But yeah, it's, it's I think it's a film that, that gives you lots of opportunity for interpretation and hidden meaning and narrative and, and things behind it, which is all massively lost on me because I'm an ignoramus when it comes to films and stuff.

I like things that I can, like that the clear and that I understand. I don't wanna have to do like homework Really? Yeah. And like, go take it away and like. What did you think about that, Peter? It reminds me of like English literature at school. It's like, what do you think the author meant by that? I'm like, I don't give a fuck.

Like, I, I just don't care. Like it's either good or it's not good. [00:03:00] But with this, so what I'll do, I'll quickly give you an overview of the, the, the story. My, my wing man on this adventure was meant to be Christian here, but he fell asleep probably, I'd say about. Ooh, before halfway, about a third of the way into the film and then saw the end.

So yeah. I'll, I'll I'll try not to be too boring. Essentially what we've got is Ryan Gosling. Yeah. It's the first time in a long

Sidey: too, it's too late as well to be boring

Pete: and I will fail. So yeah, we've got Ryan Gosling. And I mean, the film opens with like stunning, kind of like colors. It's in a, what looks like an underground club, which turns out it's, it's like a, it's like a big club, quite lavish inside with but there's, there's some boxing mood tie, like Yeah.

Thai boxing stuff going on. And you don't really know, know much about Julian, which is Ryan Gosling's character initially, but he is just fucking brooding and smoldering. For, I, I think it's probably a good 15 minutes into the film [00:04:00] before he says anything.

Cris: And he just, every, every time it is like, I dunno

if you've seen bikers with Austin Butler. No. It's exactly the same. Look. He just kind of looks like through his eye, Liz, and just shots from the side and he just looks.

Cool and just

Reegs: oh, you're getting me going. Just thinking of it. Well,

Sidey: But that's really like the same character it sounds like from Drive, which you haven't seen, but that's,

Reegs: it's very similar kind of vibe.

Pete: I mean, he does it very well.

Like it's not a, you're not looking at it going, oh, come on, have day off, mate. It, it is like,

Cris: No,

Pete: you kind of like every is art. It's like almost like every frame is, is a work of art. At the beginning of it.

Cris: Pete. I'm just gonna say because this is stuff that I've actually seen, so I can say that at the beginning, the. There's a fight. He sends one of his, one of the kids to, to go and fight, and he looks at, who will later find out his brother and another guy taking bets on the fight.

But these are children

Pete: Yeah.

Sidey: Oh.

Cris: so you, you can see,

Reegs: old.

Pete: Ah, like teens. But this is, yeah, it, [00:05:00] it, it is got this like air of it being like a bit of a shady underground operation, but you don't really know what's, what's going on at this point.

Sidey: Like the ate. Right.

Pete: Yeah. What you've got is, as Chris said you've got Julian's brother Billy

Sidey: sounds like a Roan already.

Pete: Yeah.

And he is, he's a fucking wrong

Cris: wait. Yeah.

Pete: There's a little, there's a little interaction where like a quite a fit tie girl hands him something. There's, I don't really know. I dunno if it's drugs or what it,

Cris: I think

it's betting

Pete: Okay. Maybe, maybe it's

Cris: money and betting

Pete: And then, but there's, there's no dialogue in the first kind of like five, 10 minutes. It's, you can see people whispering and stuff, but it's, it's building up to something. And then eventually they all sort of come into a room. And yeah, one of, one of the, like the, the tie boxing kids is in there and you know, Billy Whispers or Billy says something to him, and then Billy and Justin have this kind of like,

Cris: odd Julian,

Pete: Billy and Julian, sorry, have this kind of odds. Yeah. Moment [00:06:00] when, again, not a lot gets said. And then Billy says, it's time to meet the devil. didn't really know what that means. Still don't. But I imagine, you know, there, there's, there's definitely like god's devil type themes running throughout this.

Anyway, the film then changes pace, thankfully, because I, at this point, I was like going fucking, this is like art housey.

Looks fucking amazing. Yeah. But I, I need something to happen now. And it does. Billy goes off to a brothel. He wants an underage girl to fuck. He says, I wanna fuck a 14-year-old to like the, to the main guy.

The guy who's like,

Reegs: who plays Billy? I'm trying to get

Pete: so, I dunno. The guy's I can tell you Tom Burke. So I recognize to him as he's one of the, he's, he's in the Mad Max Fiosa. Okay. He's got like a cleft palate.

Cris: yeah, I, I

Pete: seen him before.

I've seen him, I've seen him in, in Mad Max fur and stuff. And he's a, he's like a bit of a hero in, in that, but he's definitely a, a wronger in

Reegs: so he's going off to a brothel to get a 14-year-old [00:07:00] prostitute.

Pete: get a 14-year-old prostitute. The guy who runs the brothel is like, mate, it's, it's just what we, what you can see.

And even, but even the brothel is quite like, it looks stylish. It's not like,

Cris: a nightclub

Pete: see, it's seedy, but it's not

Reegs: it's, it's high end. Yeah.

Pete: Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, it's just what you can see here. So he goes over, there's like a little system he goes up to that says something. The guy who runs the place comes over and he, he whacks him with a bottle and then literally goes into the, into the room where all the girls are and just starts fucking violently beating one of them.

Then he, you know, walks out there, he's walking along the street. He goes past a couple, like, you know, street halls this time, who had just sat outside a cafe. One of them looks really, really young and he just kind of like, looks at her and then there's a woman at the top of the stairs almost like saying, yeah, you can take her upstairs.

Then it just cuts to our police

Cris: police guy? Yeah, the

Pete: who, I'll get his, I'll get his name. He's he, Lieutenant Chang. And he's, yeah, like a Thai policeman. [00:08:00] He's walking up to the building. There's a bit of a, again, an odd sort of way of filming. He just kinda like stands there. And the, the frame is just him as he's

Cris: and it's a one shot.

It is just a one shot following him. It just kind of goes,

Reegs: oh, good one is it? How long is it? Oh, I like

Pete: Right. And then, and you see, but there's already police cars outside it. You go upstairs into the room and there's this girl, this young girl's just basically like dead on the floor, fucking covered in bloods. Billy is still there, just kind of like, almost like shaking, like he's had a psychotic episode.

He doesn't really know what he's done. The dad of the girl turns up has been asked to come and identify the body while she's like still there, having just

Cris: with the guy there in the room. The

Pete: the guy's still in the room. And the police guy, Lieutenant Chung, is like, basically says to him in tie, all of that like dialogue's in tie with subtitles.

And he just says, do what you want, and like leaves him and shuts the door. This guy picks up a bit of wood. You, you just see him swinging the bit of wood and you

Cris: behind the [00:09:00] curtain. Yeah. It doesn't show you the actual action.

It's behind the curtain. You

Reegs: You can hear it.

Cris: Movement.

Pete: that in itself is, isn't so graphic until it then cuts to the scene in the room, which is then the guy who, the dad just sat there with his bit of word, like, and he's looking like, what the fuck have I just done?

And this, this Billy's fucking head has just been, it's kinda like the mountain after the like, oh, sorry. The yeah. What's his name? Oin thingy The Viper or something? Yeah, the Viper, after he is, had his head like crushed. It's basically that, like on the bed, he's just completely pounded this guy's head

Cris: The head just turned into the shape of the bed. Yeah. It's just like you. Yeah, I was,

Pete: So it's

Sidey: pretty Is he dead? Is he dead

Absolutely. Yeah.

Pete: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he he never danced. He never danced again. He did. He didn't. Yeah, he didn't do any 14-year-old pro again. I said I want to, I was gonna go quickly through this. We're still only in the opening like 10 minutes here.

Right. But, but that's kind of setting the scene for the rest of the film in terms of like the graphic, the violence in it is fucking brutal and graphic. [00:10:00] And if even bits that you don't see of, of the violence, it, it doesn't leave any stone unturned in terms of knowing that there's, this is a fucking violent film.

But

Reegs: and what is there a recurrent theme of like revenge and,

Sidey: Yeah. This is what I understood about it. He's absolutely, he sent

Reegs: the other

Sidey: chief, he's sent to go and,

Reegs: God forgives. Right.

Literally

Sidey: he's sent to go and do the revenge mission Yeah. By his mother. That's the, that's what I understood the story to

Pete: Yeah. So,

Cris: then the mom comes.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah.

Pete: Right. So then this, this happens. So word gets back to Julian that his brother's been killed. He goes to find out what's happened. He goes and sees the dad, like the guy who's done it. And then it's this, this is it done in a unique way as well? It just basically like all it does is it just like raises the soundtrack up. You just see like the dad, not even pleading, but just kind of like, you know, gesticulating and talking obviously in Ty, like Julian's got a translator with him, but you don't hear anything that's being said and you just see again.

Like the, the frame is fixed on like, you know, Julian's face, no fucking emotion in it. Again, brooding and smoldering and looking hard and shit. And then it [00:11:00] comes back to him at his headquarters where the boxing gym is and everything. This is where the mom shows up. Kristen's Scott Thomas looking fucking amazing.

Yeah. Dunno what age she is. She must be

Cris: Well, there's the episode at the hotel when she kind of tells the receptionist stuff. And also, while all this is happening throughout all these scenes, he's got these visions of him in a brothel. This being Julian, him in a brothel. Either meeting the police the head of the police, either seeing this Thai woman touching herself and pleasuring herself in front of him while he's either tied to the chair or he is just sat there.

Again, no emotion, just looking really hot in that, looking at this. Happening in front of him all the time. And that's a, a recurring theme throughout the

movie.

Pete: the, I I thought that those scenes were actually happening. Not, not the visions of the Lieutenant Lieutenant Chang, but the, the ones with that girl. 'cause that's the girl that hands Billy the money or whatever at the beginning

Cris: or

Pete: or whatever.

And, and, and eventually he [00:12:00] kind of like introduces her as his girlfriend, like. Which she isn't, but she, she works for him effectively. But I thought that bit was, was real,

Cris: Oh, right. I, yeah,

Pete: just watches her playing with herself through like bead curtains and stuff like that. It's really voyeuristic and stuff, and again.

Offers nothing. Like, there's no like smooch, smooch, but it's pretty horny, right? Yeah. So, Kristen she's called Crystal, isn't she the mom? Yes. She turns up and straight away it sets the scene that she's a fucking, like, like, the

Sidey: the matriarch

Pete: an an absolute matriarch. She kind actually reminded me of the, of the, of the grandmother in the film.

In a series I watch Animal Kingdom, where she's like, basically like head of a crime, kind of, you know, there's crime going on in the family. She knows all about it. Her boys can do no wrong kind of thing. But she, she enables them and encourages them

Cris: Like, he's dead. You don't know the whole story. He raped and killed a 14-year-old, 16-year-old girl. He probably had his reasons. Yeah. And that's what she said.

Pete: Yeah. And she's like, she's like, how we do things in this family is that guy now needs to die in the most fucking [00:13:00] horrible way. So go, go and see to that. But they, like, none of them really wanna do it themselves.

It is all like, 'cause they're, they're connected and shit. That's, you, you kind of find out they're involved in all kinds of shady goings on in, in Bangkok, but they wanna. The mom wants Julian to pay people to go around and fuck

Sidey: with that up.

Pete: Which they do do yeah, he gets, he gets off pretty quickly.

I mean, he gets, it's just a throat slit sort of thing. But all the, all the wire. Oh, what, what we haven't said is Lieutenant Chang,

When he when he allows the dad to take retribution on the, on the killer Billy he lets him do it, but then he drives him out into like, like an underpass and he's got all his police guys there with him, right?

So all his entourage. And he's like, and he says, right, okay, I'll let you do that. And that was, that was the right thing to do. But I know that you knew that your daughter had gotten into prostitution. You did nothing about it. So

Reegs: so here's your comeuppance.

Pete: to pay.

Reegs: Fucking hell

Pete: his arm off,

Cris: arm,

Pete: like just slices his arm off with this [00:14:00] fucking massive machete that you see right at the beginning of the film,

all the way throughout the film, this is his weapon of choice.

Reegs: I

see what you mean. Obviously there is layers and layers of meaning and stuff here, but who knows,

Pete: So it's like this, everything is definitely about revenge, but consequences to actions. And, and this, this, this Chang is not just obviously representation of the police, but of like, you know, right from wrong in authority.

But he deals with everything in the most violent, brutal way you can possibly imagine. And he's meant to be kind of like the, like the.

Cris: and then they show

Reegs: The, the moral absolute

Cris: then they show him going home and he is got a 10-year-old daughter. Yeah. And he's like, what did she have soup and chicken? Oh, oh, let's play blah, blah, blah. And he's just

Reegs: He can be the family man at home. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Pete: So yeah. But he's, he's a real piece of work himself. So Yeah. The, the dad gets off. But they also crystal gets wind that the because this policeman was complicit in Billy getting his fucking head like pummeled into oblivion. She [00:15:00] also wants him dead. So then they use their connections through the mafia to go right, find out who he is and they put a hit out on him.

And he ev he ends up. Like he's in a restaurant. He sat down, sorry, I need to jump back again After he's allowed the dad to kill the, and, and I, I will stop going back on myself, but after he's allowed the, the, the dad to take retribution and he's top the dad's arm off, they go to a karaoke club. And the only thing I can describe then, this happens three, three or four times in the film and the o and it goes on for a really long amount of time.

And it's the police chief. Singing karaoke, almost like emotionless, but giving it his best shot and all of his like, you know, entourage just sitting there watching him giving,

Cris: in police gear, like just,

Pete: This happens right the way throughout the hill and all I can describe it as it's a little bit of sorbet to help wash down the, some of the fucking really like, unpalatable gore and violence and stuff.

It's a bit of like relief [00:16:00] that I was actually just chuckling at. I mean by this time, I, Mrs is checked out, she's like, this is fucked up. I dunno what's going on. And that's horrible. And I'm out. So that was about 30 minutes into the film. So anyway, there's a, there's a hit planned for, for the police chief.

Some guys like turn up and he's just sat in a like, typical kind of like Bangkok cafe, like street cafe sort of thing with, with his, with his guy. These guys turn up with machine guns and they just fucking gunned down everyone. But because they're at the, the police are at the back of it, he's like flipped a table over, hit him behind manage to like pick off some of them.

And then one of the guys just runs, he runs after him, catches up with him. He. runs to a factory and he's got like a, a, a. Disabled son that's with him or whatever. And he, this is where the, the fella runs to, the hitman runs to, and he just basically kills them in front of the son.

But, but get before but gets information as to who ordered the hit. You've then got this scene, which is fucking brutal. [00:17:00] I dunno if you saw this, if you saw this right. If you did, so this is like one of the, one of the. Julian's, like mafia connections, like an English guy and he's the one that's like paid the guys to, to go and do the

Cris: Oh, the ginger guy?

Pete: Yeah. No, not the Scottish guy there. There's another fellow. Right. And basically to find out who it was that you know, where, where this is originated from. He torches this guy. So first it starts off like he just. Grabs these like fucking knives or these like little sort of spare things that are by the side of a table.

He is just having dinner and shit. Sticks them in his arms and like pins his arms to the chair, sticks some in his legs, and then fucking cuts out his

Sidey: Oh,

Cris: seen that. The eye, yeah, I've seen

Pete: guy is just like screaming. This is like some of the most uncomfortable fucking like, you know. Footage I've ever seen in a film, if you know what I mean.

It's like, seriously

Cris: but just like, oh, yeah. 

Pete: Yeah.

real fucking strong stuff. This guy, obviously before you don't hear him say it because he's just screaming the whole time, but he, [00:18:00] before he snuffs it, he gives up crystal. The mum the police guy goes around, just dispatches Crystal really quickly with his machete.

Just uses like the end of it. It's, even though it's a flat end, he just jabs it into her jugular and she just like. Starts spurting out blood and hits the deck. She was an absolute asshole. I mean, you can see the kind of like environment she's brought her kids up in. She's like, when? Because when Julie, keep calling him Julian.

Sidey: It's Julian.

Cris: is his name.

Pete: Oh, it is Julian. Sorry. I was Justin. I called him before. Yeah. When Julian, says that he wasn't going to, you know, take revenge because his brother did something horrible. She's like, oh, you've always been jealous of him because he was always, you know, better at you than stuff. He's got a much bigger dick than you and everything.

She's just like making her like you know, her only now living son feel like fucking shit and stuff. Anyway, she gets soft. And then it all sort of like comes to the, there there's another, there's another scene where he eventually meets the, the

Cris: police.

Yes. Yeah. That's, that's what I've seen. Yeah. When he's surrounded, they're in the street. No.

Pete: Yeah. But they, they go into, they basically going into, into the [00:19:00] hai like boxing gym.

Cris: He's like, do you wanna have a fight?

Pete: a fight,

Reegs: Inspector Chang and Julian.

Yeah.

Pete: Expect to Chang and, and Julian. Yeah. And they have a fight. And Julian's obviously he's like trained to, you know, and he trains you.

You've like, by this stage, you found out that he trains like kids to do like tie boxing and stuff. And he can't even like fucking lay a glove on him, let alone like hurt him in any way. The police chief guy's just ducking out the way and just picking him off like bat baters him. Once it does the camera pans round to a statue in the gym and it's of Lieutenant Chang,

like

as a younger guy obviously is like the boxing champion

Reegs: Yeah. He's picked a fight with the wrong

guy,

Pete: what, this is all kind of the message, I think it's what this is all kind of portraying is like this, this guy is fucking untouchable, but you know, in terms of like, he's a policeman, so he is a figurehead, but he's also. Ridiculously good with knives and fight, you know, everything.

He's always one step ahead of everybody. He's completely untouchable. And, and the film just he, so I [00:20:00] think the Chrys has, has, before she dies, she's managed to find out that Chang has got a family and sends a guy around to go and kill his daughter. But Julian gets there first. Kills the, like a sat that would be assassin

Reegs: to save Chang's family, Chang's

Pete: daughter.

and then goes to Chang out in the woods.

And just basically puts his arms out off his, off his arms and Chang just fucking lifts up his massive machete and just as he's about to like strike it cuts. So he's obviously gonna chop his

Reegs: hand is, oh, there's no ambiguity about whether he is gonna do it.

Pete: There's no none about whether he is going to do it.

Whether he does do it or not, you don't see, 'cause it cuts before he's, he's chopped his hands off

Reegs: I bet he's definitely gonna

Pete: and then where what it cuts to is another karaoke song

Sidey: singing. and

Pete: this time he's like, he's belting out a really big, like, these are all probably like big Thai pop

Reegs: and it's Inspector Chang who does that as well. So there's another day at work

Pete: another day at [00:21:00] work for him. Just he, he goes and he does his karaoke and all his like, drones are just kind of like sat there. And then that is the end of the

Reegs: Well, because only God forgives.

Pete: So, I mean, I, I've done not done it enough. Justice. I, I I couldn't tell you that I, I didn't like a lot of this.

I really liked a lot of, it definitely wasn't the film that I thought I was going to sit down to watch.

1. bit gutted that you guys didn't watch it. I, I would. Or that you guys haven't reviewed it? 'cause I'm guessing you guys will watch it at some point and you too especially will be able to pull out loads more elements and understanding of the, the themes, the style, what the

Reegs: it sounds so bleak though

Sidey: sounds Yeah, it's fucking heavy.

Heavy. I knew about the violence of it and I also was aware of like the reception of the film when it came out which is not good.

Reegs: Drive has very violent moments in it, but it doesn't sound as bleak or as

Sidey: consistent. No, there's a, there is an [00:22:00] optimism to drive this, this this got a lot of heat for just being really cynical and,

Reegs: nihilistic it

Sidey: Yeah. Nihilistic is super.

Cris: like this

Pete: is. Yeah. That's it.

Yeah. Yeah. Be, and nihilistic is the right word, because you know, the only person who. Like the, the, you know, nothing horrendous happens to is, is Chang but there's no sense of kind of like enjoyment or that, you know, or like he's, he's not getting, doesn't seem to be getting, he's just a pure enforcer of

Reegs: The law,

forgiveness,

Pete: I

Cris: that's the thing, even in the karaoke, he doesn't seem to enjoy it.

Yeah, he just kind of sings there. Like he would read,

I dunno,

Pete: I dunno. He's, he's given, he's given, he's given it his best shot. He's not just like dialing in a another, he's not a particularly brilliant singer, but he's, he's performing not so much like, you know, physically, but he's definitely,

Cris: trying. Yeah.

Pete: and it's just like that in itself.

I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't really know or understand the [00:23:00] meaning behind that.

Reegs: A lot of the look and the pacing the way that you were describing was very familiar from his other stuff that we'd seen, like those long slow bits and showy offy cinematography and that sort of like very stylish look and neon and all that.

Very similar. It does, but, and then the sudden punch of violence

Pete: the, the, the punches of violence were fucking jarring. They, they were not comfortable to what, I don't mind got, you know, seen Game of Thrones all the way through fucking and stuff that goes on there. I don't like horrendous like torture

Sidey: I think you would enjoy drive. I think you would really like

Reegs: I would still probably recommend drive to you because it does, it is not anywhere near as Yeah. Ble as

Cris: no, it's a, it's happier than this.

Reegs: I, I still think that's a pretty, like, it got a lot of bleakness to it as well, but not, it doesn't, it's not as unrelenting as this sounds.

Sidey: No. Yeah.

Pete: it's, it's, it's tough. I'd say straight after I watched it, I hated it.

As I sit here right now. I kind of would like to watch it again. Yeah. And, and I'm already, not that I'm coming around to loving it, but I think it [00:24:00] massively polarized, like it polarized public opinion in terms of, some people were, say, some people have been saying like, in 20 years time people are gonna be talking about this.

Like, the moment this film came out, it's that fucking, you know, impactful and stuff. Others are saying like it's just a fuck it. You know? It's just like

gratuitous. Yeah. Like

it's over stylized guff.

Reegs: Yeah. I could see that argument. People, it would be possibly very pretentious for some to deal with this stuff, but I sort of want to see it still, but you have put me off a bit.

'cause I'd need to be in the right mood. It's not like, oh yeah, yeah. Probably not one

Cris: that you know what's happening, that's the problem. No, if you wouldn't have known, you probably would

Pete: I've not done a lot of, I mean, I've skirted over a lot of stuff.

There is a bit more development and thing things than that, but there's no real, again, there's not one person that you were talking about this recently cited in an episode. I wasn't out, but I was listening to, I. About the, there's, there's no one that you are

Sidey: rooting for no one to root for in this? No. No.

Pete: nothing. There's not, they're all fucking, you [00:25:00] know, the only,

I dunno, like the Thai bird that he may or may not be fucking or whatever.

She doesn't seem to do anything wrong,

Cris: She's the one, she's the one that kind of comes out a little bit more. Yeah. Like in the middle scene

Pete: with with her and, and Julian. And, and the mum. And the mums like, she's disgusting. I mean, she

Cris: She's watching these guys in the, in the jock straps. Yeah.

Pete: So yeah, there, there are bits of like, you know, that take you out of the, the bleakness, but

Reegs: but, and Gosling though, quick,

just a quick word on. Now. Hot. He is in this

Pete: fucking

what a,

what a good looking guy.

What

Cris: I was looking, I was watching this movie and I was just like,

this guy you

know, when someone just wears a pair of jeans and a black t-shirt?

That's, you know, that you can't,

Reegs: fancy tricks.

You

can't

Cris: just

pull off you know, anyone that wears a pair of jeans, just a pair of jeans. When he wears a suit

Pete: Yeah.

Cris: yeah,

he is three piece suit. Nice. And then he takes the suit off. He's like, let's fight. And he just gets battered. But. You look at him and you think, [00:26:00] fuck, you know, man, Jesus Christ, the beard is perfect.

A bit of a shady beard, but the, the shirt, the, you know, biceps, the this, that I was like, you are.

Reegs: he made me cry when we watched First Man as well. That was him too. So,

Cris: was he your first

Sidey: got range. 'cause he can do the violent stuff. He's not obviously he can. Yeah. And, and he does a romcom and he can Yeah, he,

Pete: he, he made my bald man cry in this.

Sidey: That's, doesn't get any stronger recommendation than that. Strong

Pete: Yeah.

It's a strong recommend all round.