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Where is Pete?
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Is he still claiming to be so busy?
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He's back now.
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Back once again with the Renegade Master.
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Yeah, he was back on Saturday afternoon at 5 post Meridian.
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Limey, are you tracking his movies?
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I am indeed, yeah.
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That would be very on point for this one.
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Whoa yay yay.
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And what did you uh twist?
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And um he promised I'll see him tomorrow, so Oh god.
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How's he coming to day today?
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I know.
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I'll come in after fucking smashing another T across it.
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Have you?
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Yeah.
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Maybe.
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Go on.
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Maybe.
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This is the first part of Conspiracy Week.
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But is it though the first part?
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Exactly.
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The conspiracy is.
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This will be heard much, much later.
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So that's why I'm a little bit confused.
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You're confused.
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Well, just do some research, Chris.
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Do your own research and you'll get it.
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Yeah, well, exactly.
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That's I I'm trying to do my own research, but I don't know where to start or where to finish.
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Well, you should start with The Conspiracy.
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Yes.
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A Canadian 2012 film written and directed by Christopher McBride in his debut feature.
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Or was it?
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Or was it?
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Yeah, we can do a lot of that.
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Okay.
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And it's got nobody you ever heard of in it because it's a kind of low budget.
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Or does it?
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Yeah.
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Right, enough of that.
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I know, yeah.
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Did you did you watch this?
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Side.
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Yes.
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Oh, you did, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And shall we just lump straight into it?
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Yeah, for sure.
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Yeah.
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Or will we?
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Yay, yes, we will.
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It starts with the Benjamin Disraeli quote.
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For you see, the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.
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And he was, of course, a British Prime Minister, not a complete crank.
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So anyway, and then it opens with your typical sort of long haired what you might imagine a kook to look like sort of screaming at the skyscrapers about controlling with a megaphone, yeah.
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I thought it was real documentary at this point.
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Yeah.
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Good, because that that is probably the best way to watch this movie, I would think, if we're about to go.
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I quickly like realised that it you know it was trying to look like Blair Witch, but No.
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Yeah, anyway.
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Yeah, so he's talking about overpopulation and screaming about the system of control up at some skyscrapers basically.
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People just walking past, ignore him.
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And yeah, like you say, it's structured like a documentary.
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And then we get to meet Aaron and Jim, who are a couple of documentary filmmakers.
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They've came across a viral video mocking this guy and then sort of got drawn into it by the way.
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And they go to see him.
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Yeah, because uh the comments are mostly people agreeing with him.
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Yeah.
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Uh so yeah, they go to see him and it's not you know, the the stated intention of the documentary is not it's not about conspiracy theories, it's about the people who are into them.
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Yeah.
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And so we meet like a lot of them through either their online life, they meet in a conspiracy cafe thing, or they meet in the on in the real world in a place called conspiracy culture, which was like a bookstore that Yeah, and he says, Why like why when there's the internet do you have this?
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And they're like he like turns that into conspiracy because it's their greatest it's their greatest weapon.
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Yeah, everybody can track you.
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And he was saying about Orwell and who who would have thought that you would voluntarily submit yourself to that kind of observation and all those sorts of things.
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So the two sort of documentary filmmakers they're different types.
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Jim has got a a kid and uh you know a very young kid and a wife, and Aaron is kind of more of a loner.
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He's already like fantasizing in some ways about a life off the grid.
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He sometimes looks up.
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Yeah, something to do like a commune, right?
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Yeah, that's I can't I can't remember where.
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In Arkansas, Alaska or I think it was Arkansas.
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Are you really a conspiracy theorist if you don't have a newspaper cutting wall?
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Yeah.
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Which Terence is his name is Terence does have that.
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Not just a wall, he's got the whole house.
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I can't help but think of is it Charlie from It's Always Sunday in Philadelphia that being with him like pointing at his like crazy wall with all the lines over it.
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But this is his whole house.
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But he does have one particular area with everything connected up.
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I should get one here, shouldn't I?
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It's a bit like this, I mean it's it's a little, yeah, that's too orderly.
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But it would be nice to get some, you know, pins and some red string and just link all the things together.
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I'm sure we could draw a pin some patterns.
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Well, as he'll say to him later, if you stare at anything for long enough, you'll find a pattern.
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Yeah.
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I think we do get one more scene of Terence, he's walking down the street, it looks like a sandwich board, and it turns out to be his sort of like Well, it's his wall, like he he takes it out and he gets almost in a fight with someone who says About nine eleven.
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I think the film is quite exploitative using night like actual shot it sh uh shots of nine eleven and that sort of thing.
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Yeah, because it does do that.
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And yeah, he's he starts to go on about that in a park and someone like takes umbrage with it and it's really like offended by him.
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But then intercut with this are genuine examples of what you would call a psyop these days, like the Lusitania being sent by the Brits into a passenger ship being sent into a war zone to be destroyed to drag the Americans into the war, or the Gulf of Tonkin, a fiction the thing that was emerged in 2005 that it was fictional that ships were attacked, that the event that drew uh America into Vietnam, the final thing.
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So Yeah, it's interesting to put that stuff in there.
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Um Yeah, and it j it does kind of then give a little more credence into Terence's mutterings and and he talks everything from 9-11, but he's he kind of focusing down on a particular group, isn't he?
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He's how I don't think that actually comes out just before he's abducted, but or wherever he goes because he just disappears from the movie, and it's a bit of a shame, really, because he was the best character in it, I think.
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But he he disappears and they it drags Aaron and Jim into it.
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Aaron particularly, yeah, he goes straight into the new side of things.
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Yeah.
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He tries to re-assist.
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Well he picks up everything from the flat, no?
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He just Yeah, and he he puts the timeline straight through the middle, doesn't he?
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And then he's like, look at the you know, he's gonna be like the dates.
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He's gone.
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Yeah, he's into it.
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And the the dates lead him to this article about this club that they've referenced a whole time that I've heard million times the Bilderberg group, the Illuminati, Bohemian, Military Industrial Complex.
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Yeah, all of that stuff.
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And it leads them to this online article in this guy called Mark Tucker, who used to go to school with us.
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Is yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Not really.
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I'm assuming it was a different guy, yeah.
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But he'll agree to talk to them on camera if he's has his face sort of But now it for the rest of the film, like 90% of the people do have that.
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Yeah, and it's weird.
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Yeah.
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And the face distort and the voice distorted.
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And he's got like it looks like his fingers have been broken.
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Yeah, and the wrists as well.
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It looks really Yeah, he picks something up off a plate, doesn't he?
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And all his fingers are buckled in.
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Or they've been tortured by the Illuminati.
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Yeah.
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And he's got a great ponytail.
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Yeah, really easy.
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Really easy to tell who he is if you know who Yeah, if you knew it, you'd be like, oh, is that guy with the broken fingers and the long hair?
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If his fingers didn't make it obvious enough, his massive long ponytail would have done.
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Yeah.
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So they find this article from this guy and it leads them to this thing called the Tarsus Club, and they find a website for it, and they decide to phone it, and all it does is repeat back his phone number to him.
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Spooky.
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Yeah.
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Well they're they're caught in at one point.
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Yeah, they're caught in a trap, and at one point he comes back home and they've trashed his apartment.
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Yeah.
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Aaron's apartment, and he has to move in to his buddy's apartment there.
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They've got a young baby and his wife, his partner's there.
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She's not in it too much, but Well they they do a nice way of pointing out that he's got a nice, happy family.
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Yeah, family.
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And a lot more a lot more to lose, as it were.
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Although yeah, why he moved out made me think, well, they didn't they just trash the place.
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Like they didn't he's scared, I guess.
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That's why he moved out, but he he moved out for a little while.
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It wasn't a lot.
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And they also said that yeah, he's this is the first time he was happy that he was broke.
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They didn't have any money, so it's not like Yeah, but it would anyway, yeah.
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So yeah, he was they spooked themselves a little bit because they're looking out, they've got a guy that we see every now and again who's videoing all this as well, so they're in front of the camera, but they've obviously got a symbol.
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It's no longer some s to them some sort of fringe lunatic conspiracy theory that this is a thing that exists.
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Yeah, and it starts to infiltrate their lives, right?
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They see a guy on a bike repeatedly that was in the background of a video.
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At one point a car starts following them into a car parking lot and all you know stops and all that.
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Yeah, and they they take on Terence's conspiracy and his paranoia and continue the the plan to find out more about there's also this myth of Mithras who predates Christ by two thousand years.
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He's got a bull for a head, or a killer bull is part of his killer bull is part of his but he also sort of died for three days and was resurrected and shares some common elements with Christianity.
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Like 25th of December.
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Yeah.
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And things like that.
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So anyway, it's all building up to this organisation, and then this, you know, to cut a very long story short, this Mark Tucker guy says, Well, right, I can get you in there.
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They have these meetings because what they've been able to show is before every historical event, there's been these meetings of these people, and there's another one happening, and he can sneak them in.
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So it starts the final stretch of the movie, which is where they get these really bad tie-clip camera things and then go undercover.
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They sneak in through the woods.
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On the way, they find a house, a cabin.
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Yeah, weird.
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It reminded me of that one that was in Midsummer, that you know, those pointed roof ones.
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And they say to meet back there if they've ever a problem.
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I wonder if that will happen.
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And then they, you know, through some shenanigans with a guy that they've paid off and some hiding in bushes and all that.
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And in bags.
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And in body bags or something, I don't know.
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They end up sneaking in there and mixing amongst the Illuminati, the brothers.
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The brothers.
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Taking a gin and tonic and and having a laugh and I was just thinking about the organisation of the gathering.
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Yeah.
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And surely they were throwing the numbers out.
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I don't mean like getting the numbers out, I mean just from a purely logistical of the colour.
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Yeah, they do two extra seats at dinner.
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Because there's there's a ceremony for newbies, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I thought this.
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And they all get knives laid out.
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There were knives and they all get a mask in this ceremony where they're anointed into the brotherhood.
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And I was thinking, well, there'll be two masks short.
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But and he's last, one of them's last.
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But they they also have counted into this, I I guess, as we learn, because well, it it it's not to surprise anybody that they knew they were coming.
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Anyway, that's how my stupid brain might have been.
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Well, no, but they saw they see the guy, right?
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They see the polytail.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mostly thought, like, if this really is the Illuminati, why are they meeting in like a three-star hotel?
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Because it's really I was thinking stone cars.
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They've got no you know, they didn't have any money.
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This is a low budget film, so you can you can excuse all that.
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So yeah, they begin the ceremony and Jim's right at the front of the queue, and Aaron's at the back, and there's a sort of will they won't he get killed and rumbled and the bit of tension which is.
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Yeah, he's he's able to watch the guy in front of him what he has to the scripts that basically they have to go through.
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So he so he if he'd been first, you'd imagine it would have been a bit of a car crash, but he just repeats what the guy's said and it is you know re repetition.
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You have to name your father.
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But making it back and starting to freak out because he is at the back and he doesn't know if he's alright.
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He's like, I need to see my friend, and they're like, brother, brother, you're you're fucking it all up, you know, just go and wait.
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And it's getting a bit you know, it's getting a bit aggro, a bit tense, but eventually he sees him walk past and he's like, Okay, okay, okay, I'll wait.
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But he could the whole time because of the way it's got the camera on there, but it's the you can hear their breathing.
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Breathing from 2001.
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Yeah.
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You know, the the tension is is kind of building.
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Yeah.
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And like you say, Mark Tucker walks in through the crowd, you're like, oh shit, hang on a minute.
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But this was all right.
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Well that's why he panicked, right?
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Because he's like, What the fuck?
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What the fuck with this guy's here?
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Yeah.
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And again, he's he's got the mask, the the face blurred out, but you can see the ponytail, so you can't.
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I really like the way that they somebody actually went, Oh, Mark Tucker's here, but you didn't I mean he was a really tall guy with his own.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What's the what's the where's the guy who goes second?
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Aaron.
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So Aaron, when he goes in, he is given the the sacrificial because they've been told it's a hunt, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, it's your first hunt, your first hunt.
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This is oh, you're gonna have a lot of things.
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We've seen all the knives.
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And he is given the sacrificial thing, and he works he walks through the curtain and just pauses, he can see his reflection, he's like, Oh fuck.
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Yeah, and he's wearing his.
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And they have the horn, they just do that.
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I think the f first does he s he takes it off, and the guy's like, Oh, I need to show you something.
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And he's like, Oh no, yeah.
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I just need to go for a piss.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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In the meantime, J oh is that Jim you're talking about.
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Yeah, Jim, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He when he goes in, yeah.
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And then he tries to call his missus and his missus is a big thing.
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Well, he hears the phone ringing.