March 26, 2026

Secretaries & Secretary

Secretaries & Secretary

This week the dads work late for Steven Shainberg's Secretary (2002) — one of the more unusual love stories in American independent cinema, and almost certainly the most interesting thing James Spader has ever worn a tie for. But first: a very thorough Top Five Secretaries list. Dolly Parton, Mad Men, Ghostbusters, Batman Returns, The Simpsons, Beetlejuice, Moneypenny through all her iterations, and the West Wing. It's a good one. Top Five highlights: Doralee Rhodes (Dolly Parton) from 9 to 5...

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Season 28

This week the dads work late for Steven Shainberg's Secretary (2002) — one of the more unusual love stories in American independent cinema, and almost certainly the most interesting thing James Spader has ever worn a tie for.

But first: a very thorough Top Five Secretaries list. Dolly Parton, Mad Men, Ghostbusters, Batman Returns, The Simpsons, Beetlejuice, Moneypenny through all her iterations, and the West Wing. It's a good one.

Top Five highlights:

  • Doralee Rhodes (Dolly Parton) from 9 to 5
  • Joan Holloway and Peggy Olson from Mad Men — a deliberate twofer
  • Selina Kyle — Michelle Pfeiffer, one take with the whip, iconic
  • Moneypenny through every era — Lois Maxwell to Naomi Harris
  • Smithers from The Simpsons — unsalaried, devoted, above and beyond
  • Miss Argentina, the green receptionist in the afterlife from Beetlejuice
  • Dawn/Pam from the UK and US Office — both great, discussed together
  • Mrs Landingham from The West Wing
  • Miss Teschmacher from Superman

On the main feature:

  • Dan tried to watch it with his family. The first scene resolved that very quickly.
  • A surprisingly thoughtful and sensitive portrayal of BDSM — and why it works where 50 Shades doesn't
  • Maggie Gyllenhaal and James Spader both doing career-best work
  • Angelo Badalamenti's score — unusual, rhythmically strange, perfect
  • Whether trading one form of self-harm for another is complex, or just complicated, or both
  • The three-day chair scene — and why it's the emotional heart of the film

Also in this episode: a recent Wu-Tang Clan gig (GZA didn't show, QR codes were aggressively promoted), Barcelona, and Sidey's assessment of the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Verdict: Strong recommend. Surprisingly tender. Genuinely unlike anything else.

Note: Adult content. Not suitable for family viewing. The dads learned this the hard way.

Cast & crew discussed: Maggie Gyllenhaal, James Spader, Angelo Badalamenti, Steven Shainberg

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Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast that is to film criticism as a gimp mask is to a job interview.

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This week we're holding all calls and working late with the top five secretaries, and for our younger listeners, a secretary was a human being whose job was to translate the incompetence of their superiors into something vaguely resembling a work day.

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But that has since been replaced by Outlook and the optimistic fiction that grown adults can manage their own calendars.

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The word secretary survives now mainly in politics and medicine, two fields that both involve a lot of being bent over a desk while someone tells you it's for your own good.

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Our main feature is secretary.

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Unsurprisingly, Steven Schoenberg's gloriously strange 2002 film in which a fragile young woman discovers that punishing and hurting herself is considerably more fun when line managers are involved.

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It's basically dirty dancing if baby had specifically asked to stay in the corner and Johnny had the paperwork to make it official.

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The standard warning applies, we spoil things because we're inconsiderate bastards, and our language is filthy enough to require a formal written apology, so if that's not for you, the door's right there.

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But for everyone else, let's meet four men who've spent their entire lives in desperate need of a firmer hand and somehow never received one, starting with Dan.

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He's so old he remembers when bound for the office was a different kind of sentence entirely, and his last fuck was filed sometime in the seventies, lost in an office move, and neither the fuck nor the cabinet have been seen since.

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Fucking true.

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Next up, handsome Chris, a man who returns every week for more, despite never appearing to enjoy any of it, which is either the most method preparation for this week's film review we've ever seen, or a deeply worrying pattern we should probably have flagged earlier.

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And taking down his particulars in third place, the man who told me earlier this week his dictation is enormous, and I have no reason to doubt him, it's Sidey.

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Thank you.

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And then there's me, Reeds.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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We're back.

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Yeah, we had a hiatus.

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We had a week off.

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We had a brief hiatus, didn't we?

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Reeds and I went to Capital City.

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Off the big off Ireland.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Went to Londinium and saw the Wu-Tan clan.

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You saw my dictation as well.

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We shared a room.

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How was that?

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The Wu Tan thing.

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It was good, yeah.

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Yeah, we sang Shame on the Person who tried to run Blame on the Person.

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Yeah, it was really good.

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Only slight disappointment was that one of the Wu-Tang clan wasn't there.

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The Jiz of the genius, he's always on point, but not that night.

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He didn't re-up or reload, so we missed out on him.

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But the show was great.

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Why why was he not there?

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They didn't say no.

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In fact, they didn't acknowledge it in any way.

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Tell you what they did do is they showed us QR codes over and over and over again.

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I've never been a gig or I've been asked to look at a QR code so many times.

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That was a very puzzling attitude.

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Scanning, was it?

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They've all got a lot of projects on the go.

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There's trailers for films and all sorts of stuff going on, but they wanted you to fucking get your phone out and download shit.

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And you've underestimated what British people are like because the more they told me to do it, the fucking less I wanted to.

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They're nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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Yeah.

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And I think We've got to be on that bitch.

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I think the least like rock and roly thing is like wanting to be in it.

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And they were like, get up and vote, like get your phone out and vote.

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I mean like nah.

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I don't want to be told what to do at a gig.

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Yeah.

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Anti-establishment, etcetera, etc.

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But the tunes were fucking great.

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Yeah.

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You took notes?

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Yeah, all of them.

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It was opening for them.

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So it was when they said then it didn't describe it very well because Havoc is the DJ from Mub D.

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So we we were expecting two people, it was just one guy DJ.

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Wide, okay.

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It did play some bangers, it was good.

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Nice.

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Bloody expensive drinks, though.

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34 quid for me and Reese get for around.

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Fuck off.

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Wow.

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What was you drinking?

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Pints.

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Gin and tonic and rum and coke.

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Champagne.

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The finest wine.

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Yeah, it was a bit punchy.

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I mean it doubles, but it's just 34 quid.

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17 quid a drink.

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Ouch town.

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Ouchtown.

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Population.

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Okay.

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That is punchy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Woo.

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Tang.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, woo tang.

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Motherfucker.

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What have you guys been up to though?

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Uh you've been away.

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I have been away as well.

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Off island and off on the continent, shall I say?

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Because obviously we are not really attached to the continent in any way here.

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In continent.

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Yeah, on the continent.

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I went to Barcelona.

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Had a fantastic time.

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I'll tell you what though, we the three of us, me and my two mates, went for dinner and between the three of us was 80 euro the bill, so drinks were cheap in Barcelona.

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Compared to slightly different to what compared to the O2 arena in London, but yeah.

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And the camp, no, I didn't pay for any drinks.

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The Geordies just bought drinks for me.

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Really?

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Yeah, because I I d I my phone didn't work, so I didn't have any card or any cash with me.

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So I just But you had a Newcastle shirt on and that was a good one.

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And that was enough, yeah.

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That was your currency.

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They weren't gonna see you without a drink.

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Yeah, I well, look at you all jet setting off, you lucky people.

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I was I was here holding the fort, you know, just twiddling my thumbs, waiting for you all to come back.

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Obviously, I tied you in the man cave as you can see.

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Yes, spotless.

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Um But also, you haven't seen anything this week, and you told me uh earlier off air that there was some reason that you were gonna reveal.

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Well, there was some way.

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They came a little bit later, which meant there was less of a a window.

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But no, I was I had every every kind of intention to to watch Secretary with the family on Yeah and and then that didn't work on and it got kind of pushed to to Sunday night and it became clear very quickly that wasn't a film that we should all watch together.

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It's not a family film, no, it's not a family film.

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No, we'll get into that.

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How far into it did you get?

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Oh no, well it it well the first scene is like Yeah, the the f the first scene is is is uh said no.

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Yeah.

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You know, so yeah, that was that put hold on that idea.

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I did watch earlier in the week a documentary on the red hot chili peppers, which was quite good.

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Our friend Hillia, who was the David, the guy who who died from red hot chili peppers earlier on.

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No.

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No, the guy be from before, yeah, yeah.

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The the lead guitarist who who helped start him off.

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Um John Frischanti.

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No.

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No, so he joined afterwards and this guy was their first kind of album and and from high school and was kind of the guy who knitted it all together and put Flea and and Nikidas in in touch.

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It was really interesting, actually.

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That was on on Netflix, so I'd watch that, which was I think they are one of the fucking worst bands of all time.

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Well, I quite like them.

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Yeah.

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Fucking drastic.

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And I don't I like Flea.

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I he seems like a really cool guy.

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He really is, you know.

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And I cannot understand why he's put up with that fucking shit dirge his whole fucking life.

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It just don't I it doesn't compute to me.

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Well, if you watch the documentary and he's it's all subjective.

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Yeah, he's he and he does, he comes across as the Anthony Kidd is a nonce as well, isn't he?

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He's like knocking off a 16-year-old or something now.

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He's into his fifty.

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Yeah, I think he's been permanently like that, hasn't he?

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With like a bit like Leo, but worse.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Wow, right.

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Well, it didn't go into any of that, but obviously they're drug problems and things like that.

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But Flea was the one with the least drug problems out the back.

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He seems like a pretty cool guy.

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Yeah.

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He likes sparks, I'll say no more.

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There we go.

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Yeah, so that was that was my viewing.

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So I didn't get to watch Secretary, although I did do a top five Secretaries.

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Okay, we'll get on to that.

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I have watched the I think everyone's watched it, the Louis Through The Manasphere.

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I haven't.

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I've not watched it either.

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Oh, it's good.

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It's Is that a series or is there just the ones just a word?

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Yeah, they're ones.

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It's it's he's moved from the BBC to Netflix.

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He doesn't kind of I think he could call them out more in the show, but he does shine a light.

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I don't think he really needs to.

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Often he just lets them talk and they just obviously come across as fucking idiots because that's what they are.

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But actually I think the the the show, like Tiki Toki even saying that out loud is fucking tragic.

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I think he's done his popularity has been boosted through it.

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For sure.

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For sure.

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So even shining a light on them hasn't really done anything.

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But I think that's part of You have to at least try and make people aware of it.

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Who are these people?

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What he's doing.

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They're just trying to say somewhere in the middle of the year.

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Low Ren Andrew Tate, basically, you know, like just They're all disciples of his, basically.

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They're all the same.

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Really young guys who's never had a father figure in their lives, who just go on social media and work the algorithm, saying the most twisted things, and you know, it's and it's laughable.

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You can laugh at them because they're stupid and they say stupid things.

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They say things like a ten-year-old would be ashamed at saying.

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But the problem is they're dangerous, they're influential, and they're just like, And they do show you they do show you two guys in it who are like true believers.

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And one guy, it's really tragic, like his brother had killed himself, and he's like, that's what we're supposed to be like.

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We're supposed to men aren't supposed to be happy, we're supposed to suffer.

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This guy's like been homeless, like lived in a car, and he just gives all his money to these fucking idiots in the home.

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They're very vulnerable.

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Somehow, like this is the path to go on, and they're just you know, these guys are all like super damaged, you know, fucked up.

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And it just shows you and it just shows you the stuff that they say, and they're just so overtly like fucking stupid.

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There's a brilliant one where his mum's there, don't you?

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And and and he, you know, he's his whole tone really changes and he becomes across like a petulant little child.

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There's a thing about a juice bar that things He says, Mummy, I don't want I always say it, Mummy, I don't want a juice bar.

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Yeah.

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This is the guy who's been like doing queer bashings and being like he's he's a mixed-race kid, and he's like racist.

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He says, if I have a son and he's gay, I'll disown him, like he and peddles all the shit.

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And then all the people that he gets to follow him just exploits them and takes their money up for this.

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It's a pyramid scheme.

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And then but he's still all of this, he still has to answer his mum and says, Mummy, I don't want to just so funny.

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But it is, I mean, you do spend a lot of time just laughing at them because they are so laughable.

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But the problem is the kids Love it.

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Yeah, it's and we don't know who they are.

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We're well, me personally, I'm not in touch with that kind of culture.

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So but uh children especially are gonna know who some of these YouTube fuckers are.

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Or you could go down the look maxing route.

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Clavicular.

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Yeah, uh beating yourself with a hammer to Yeah, smashing your face in.

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Have you seen this?

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Do you know about looks maxing and clavicular?

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No.

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So he's a guy who got famous for whacking himself in the face with a tiny hammer to give himself little fractures.

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Micro fractures because when it heals, it improves your body structure.

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I know the look on your face is amazing.

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They have like they have ratios of all your body measurements, and they get really upset if they haven't got like the perfect ratio of like shoulder to shoulder to waist to fucking bonkers.

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Honestly.

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But they'll fucking super into it, and then they'll sell you peptides.

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So this is apparently the latest craze is for like black market peptides that will help you to look like.

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Oh, and all these other fuckers are running like you know, coin type scams, but you know, with like trading and all that sort of shit, and everybody's losing money, and you can sign up to their things for forty dollars a month.

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I mean, it's all a scam.

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It's just a Well it doesn't have to be true, you've just got to set enough times.

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Yeah.

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That's it.

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So I watched that.

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Unfortunately.

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How long is this thing?

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Hour.

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Oh, okay.

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That's not a good one.

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Maybe a little bit more, but an hour and a half.

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But yeah.

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There's a there's a brilliant moment where on screen one of the guys, he's obviously got a bit of a persona.

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They're all into one-way monogamy, they call it, so they can have loads of chicks, but their white you know, partner can't.

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And she basically two minutes of a conversation with Louis is enough.

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He says I'm to have multiple wives, and Louis asks her, Yeah, Are you okay with that?

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The look on her face, and then they split up like after the programme came out.

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It's like literally two minutes with Louis was enough for her to ask enough questions to reflect on what the hell she was doing.

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You know, it's like a typical Louis Threw thing where he does his sort of like straight man thing and just asks the questions for them to expose her.

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So yeah, it's quite uh it's alarming, but also quite interesting.

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Also on Netflix at the moment is War Machine, Alan Richon.

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I really like that.

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That's basically just Predator, but with Metal Gear Solid stuff in it, but really good.

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I rated that as a big dumb action movie and I Swear, which Dan and I did a review of, which will come out and is absolutely superb.

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It's brilliant.

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Yeah.

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I told you when I when I after I've seen it that that is the best film I've seen in the last couple of years.

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Yes, it was good.

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Okay.

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Well we said we hadn't seen Sinners, so we can't comment on the best film.

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We had the Oscars, didn't we, while we've been off air, we've had the Oscars.

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I haven't seen anything.

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We said it had to be some performance for it to be better than what we saw in that because he's in I Square.

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Yes.

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We thought he was Sinners is the Michael B.

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Jordan Creed.

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Michael B.

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Jordan, yeah.

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They thought that the lock-in was either Timothy Chalamet or DiCaprio, and the surprise of the night I think was Michael B.

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Jordan winning.

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I don't think that I swear was ever in the running.

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That guy was incredible.

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Especially because he's not he doesn't have the rent.

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Yeah.

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He's just an actor that's John Acton.

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Oh, it's brilliant.

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Brilliant film.

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Yeah.

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I've watched a film called Mosul.

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It's a it's a Iraqi.

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Afghanistan, is it?

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Or Iraq.

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Iraqi film with all the Iraqi actors.

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It's a war film about Mosul and how they go after the few fractions of ISIS in Mosul.

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It it it was really good actually, and it's based on a true story.

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Obviously, there's creative license and that, but it was it's really good, really nicely made.

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Obviously it's it's still a Hollywood production, but all the actors are Iraqi and they speak Arabic and Farsi and all that, and it's it's kinda like a war like any war film that is nicely done where you just kind of throughout the film you just witness the futility of war and how they fight over a couple of blocks or a couple of streets and then everybody dies and they haven't gone forward or backwards one meter, they just the line is still there.

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Yeah.

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But there's a hundred people dead, and it's four children dead, and the only people that are making money they're selling rocket launches for uh ten pack of cigarettes and things like that, and it's just like Yeah.

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There's a Vietnam movie called Hamburger Hill which has a similar thing, it's just about a fight for this hill.

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The whole movie is about that, and they they take it, they lose it, they take it, they lose it at a terrible cost.

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It's yeah.

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So so yeah, that I I watched that because I was on the plane and and I've watched a really shit three-part series called Cocaine Air about these three French I should have known because it's about the French, but uh stupidly I watched it anyway.

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And it was the worst.

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Bonjour to all our French friends.

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It was honestly, oh my god.

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There's three these two French pilots, a retired French pilot and some idiot French guy, businessman apparently, they they got caught in in the Dominican Republic in 2013 with 70 kilos of coca 70 tons of cocaine or tons.

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So s I don't know, uh seven tons of cocaine, something like that.

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Jesus.

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And honestly, it and they go to prison in the in Costa Rica and then some other French fuck just sets them free and get gets them off a boat, and he's oh my god, there's oh man.

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There was a Jersey guy that got done.

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Remember a few years ago, there was a guy who got done with load of cocaine on a boat and he was just tricked into I think I used to play football with him.

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Right.

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Uh at St.

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Paul's, yeah.

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Yeah, he was just tricked.

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I remember his name.

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Yeah, transporting him.

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The one that they got caught down at Monkey Beach.

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I don't remember which beach.

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But where was this?

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Apparently this was a uh he I thought it was Caribbean, that's why but he he got caught because people who can like crew boats and things often get told to to take boats from one place to another because somebody's buying one and they say, Oh well you you could you can do it.

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And this wasn't like left on the bed, the coke or whatever, it was all hidden in the hull or whatever, and just we need you to take it from from A to B and he did it and he was hiding.

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Because I think the guy know uh Iceberg he knew what he was doing, yeah.

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Oh well uh this guy I think he he actually did get off because they was hoodwinked.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Shall we talk about some secretaries?

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Yeah.

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Let's do that.

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Desk whisperers, the inbox influences, the calendar charmers.

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Have you ever I don't mean it it's in a perverted way, have you ever had the benefit of a secretary at work to assist you in your working day?

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I'm glad you put it that way, that long No.

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Executive Assistant or that's an assistant?

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Our CEO still has an executive assistant and wants he picked up another one.

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But no, you're not being two like what the fuck.

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Yeah, they're called PAs now, aren't they?

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Wouldn't they be?

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Yeah.

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That would fit the description.

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My well I my old office, the boss had a like a proper secretary who like knew shorthands, you know, the proper shorthands and all that sort of stuff, like a proper old school secretary.

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Um, not like Liam Neeson.

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A unique set of skills she would have to track him, you know, didn't kill him, but you know, if you need, you know, she would know where he was and you'd late for a meeting, she would go and track him and find him, you know.

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All that, yeah.

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So a little bit like Liam Neeson.

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But we're gonna make a list.

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Yes.

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Oh Liz Paper.

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The top our top five seconds.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Who wants to start?

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I don't know, who does want to start?

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Who does want to start?

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I'll take minutes.

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I'll take minutes.

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You were quite pleased at having a list because you didn't watch anything.

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Wrote it down as well.

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Okay, well I'll go for Doralie Rhodes.

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Yes.

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Nine to five, what a way to make a living.

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Dolly?

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Yeah.

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And she It was her debut.

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Yeah, it was it was uh she sung as well in this.

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Obviously, she was a big star.

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Who was the other two Lily Tomlin was it?

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Was the it was three secretaries who were working the nine to five yeah, working for kind of uh a sexist boss and they were yeah I think it's the sort of inverse of that.

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Is that everybody thinks she's shagging the boss, Dolly, and she's not.

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And yeah, I can't.

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Yeah.

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Do you know what it's called?

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Eight till four?

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Secretary.

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Wow.

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There you go.

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There you go.

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Wow.

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Well, I didn't have that fact.

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I do be remember that the song is in it about 25 minutes into the movie.

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I think it's start I think it's didn't it start off with it?

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Does it start off with the movie?

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I think it starts off with it.

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It's almost I think it's in it about 20 times.

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Oh maybe it gets.

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I'm pretty sure it it starts.

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It would play you out as well.

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Yeah.

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It was nominated for an Oscar as well, the song.

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Yeah, I mean Dolly Parton is amazing.

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She's she's the goat.

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Yeah, she's absolutely what a songwriter.

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She's fantastic.

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And all her philanthropic work.

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And she's got like the Dolly theme park as well.

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Dollywood.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Dollywood.

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And this was about sort of fighting back against harassment.

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I don't remember the film very well, but I do remember that.

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I rem I yeah, I remember my my sister really enjoying it.

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She's got big fake titties as well.

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Yeah.

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Not your sister.

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I don't know about your sister.

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Wow.

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Good, right.

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I'm glad we clarified that.

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I I I best uh pass over to somebody else to make the next list.

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Pass over?

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I am gonna go for I'm going for a a a twofer.

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And it's two secretaries that were in Mad Men, Joan Holloway and Peggy Olson.

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I never caught this show.

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Obviously, it's which one is uh Christina Hendricks was Joan Holloway and Elizabeth Moss was Peggy Olson, and you kind of have to talk about these two because the show sort of deliberately sets them up as kind of two different types of approaches to you know femininity and navig how a woman navigated the work environment as a secretary.

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But these two women became very powerful through different means.

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You know, Peggy Joan Holloway, Christina Hendrix using a sort of obvious.

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Yeah.

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So like but she was obviously really fiercely intelligent and good social instincts.

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Doesn't she say in the She uses her sexuality as well.

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Doesn't she say I can't wait till you're all in Vietnam?

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Yeah, yeah.

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She was really clever, very smart and all that.

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And she ran the office for ages before it was like formally acknowledged and she was like, you know, because this was advertising in the 1950s, isn't it?

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Yeah.

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And then Peggy was kind of the opposite.

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She was like the handmaidens.

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Yeah, Ellis, the Scientologist.

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She was kind of you know, dressed very dowdy and a bit sort of like downtrodden, but was super sharp, and the quality of her work was like what got her through.

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So these two sort of journeys through it alongside Don Draper, yeah, two secretaries, right at the heart of what that show was about.

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Selena Kyle.

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She was Max Shrek's secretary.

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Was she?

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Yeah.

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Max Shrek was Christopher Walker.

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Sure was.

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And yeah, he's a real bastard to her.

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And eventually she falls out of the thing into the kid is with Batman, but she uh she's basically.

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Almost killed and sort of resuscitated in a way by the cats and then becomes a totally different person, the Catwoman persona, and she's that the Michelle Pfeiffer one, is it?

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She's super sexy, yeah.

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She if there's a famous scene where she walks out with the whip.

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She does the mannequins.

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Yeah.

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She barely does it in one take.

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You can see they've got a camera shot of her doing it on take and everybody clapping after she did it.

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And there's also the same way she just comes out of the department store as Catwoman like she's like super.

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Yeah, but she she just went from a sort of meek and sort of feeble put upon secretary persona into Catwoman.

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So a transformation.

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Yeah.

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Uh I've got an an actress who's I don't think she's very famous.

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I've never heard of her, but I do remember her because I watched the Wizard of Lies, which is the Bernie Madoff.

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Robert De Niro is Bernie Madoff, and this the actress is called Catherine Arducci, and the actual secretary of Bernie Madoff is Eleanor Skylari.

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And she participated, this Eleanor lady, she participated in the creation of the film.

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It was half of the film was based on her retelling the story because Bernie Madoff wouldn't say anything and his family wouldn't say anything and no one else would say anything, so she participated, and she was one of the most influential people because apparently she knew that it was a Ponzi scheme.

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She would have had access to everything, wouldn't she?

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But she never said anything to anyone, and she was also one of those people that never got convicted of anything because she was only a secretary.

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And the film is Withers of Lies.

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I really like the film and I remember watching it, and it's it's a nice cast, it's Michelle Pfeiffer, De Niro leading, let's say, and it's it's quite good.

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Michelle Pfeiffer twice tonight.

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Yeah.

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Well, it's funny that as you said it, I was like, oh, I've got that.

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Pfeiffer.

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So but well, Michelle Pfeiffer's in the film, but she's not a secretary as a yeah.

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Ghostbusters.

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Ghostbusters, what do you want?

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One of your ones.

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That was uh Harry Howie does a good one of that, doesn't he?

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An Annie Potts plays Janine Melnitz.

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Melnitz, yeah.

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Um I really fancy her in Ghostbusters too.

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She's got that sleek Bob.

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Oh.

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Like sort of ginger bob with those big glasses, and she's all full New York.

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She she fucks the thingy.

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Lewis Tully.

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Yeah.

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From Central Park West, I think so, yeah.

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Well, she was obviously, you know, employed by Gaul's bastards.

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She was sort of unflappable, or she at least treated like all of the ghostly shenanigans that was going on with the same sort of reverence as she did what they were ordering for like a takeaway or something like that.

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So Yeah, she was like office manager slash like receptionist slash secretary, just did everything.

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Yeah.

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Slash managed the ecto containment unit.

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Yeah.

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Told him they'd better get down to like City Hall and something going on there.

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But yeah, she was a classic s secretari.

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I have got another twofer.

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It's the US and UK versions of the office.

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Oh, okay.

00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:14.720
Dawn Tinsley, Lucy Davis from the UK office, her love story with Martin Freeman's original manager.

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Yeah, that was sort of at the It wasn't quite central in the way that the Pam Beasley and what's his fucking name?

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I've never watched the US.

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I've seen like millions of clips of outtakes.

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Jim is the the character's.

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No what's his name?

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The actor.

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He's married to Emily Kris.

00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:35.200
Krasinski.

00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:35.839
John Krasinski.

00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:36.720
Yeah, John Krasinski.

00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:42.400
His love story with Jennifer's Pam Beasley is right at the heart of the US office.

00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:44.079
And they're both sort of different characters.

00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:50.880
But the UK one, I they're both great characters in their own way, and I think they're both good shows in their very own ways.

00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:53.839
But I do like the Dawn Tim relationships.

00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.160
It felt very Christmas special.

00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:56.799
So good.

00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:01.759
Where he's got her the little teapot and some pens or whatever it was and just encouraged her to keep drawing.

00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:08.799
Yeah, very nice and understated and very real and uh yeah, very good secretary content.

00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:15.599
She was like not neither of them are the sort of sexy secretary that you sometimes see, or the hyper competent.

00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:21.359
This was just a regular person doing a regular job and trying to get by, having like looking at all the weirdness around them.

00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:22.240
Yeah.

00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:23.279
Smithers.

00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:24.319
Smithers, yeah.

00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:25.440
That was gonna be my pick.

00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:25.839
Okay.

00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:27.519
But go for him, yeah, go on.

00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:28.480
Here's Mr.

00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:31.200
Burns is well, he's more than a secretary.

00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:40.559
He'd like you see, it's like when home takes when he has he gets basically forced to go off a holiday, yeah, and he has to run through like the morning routine with homework, and it's like it's amazing.

00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.680
He's going above and beyond like the normal secretary's role.

00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:44.079
Yeah.

00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:49.680
Um Well, because of course he's in love with the And it it reveals that he is unsalaried.

00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:50.240
Yes.

00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.960
He's doing it for love and devotion of Mr.

00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.079
Burns rather than you know But he genuinely does love him.

00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:56.640
I mean, yeah.

00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.079
Mellow Smithers, you're quite good.

00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:03.119
There's the bit where they think it's like the apocalyptic, you know, the asteroid that's gonna like and he's like, I love you.

00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.400
Yeah, he has to like roll back on it after yeah.

00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.720
His debut was in Homer's Odyssey season one, episode three.

00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:14.960
Most notably, I think about that episode is that he was miscoloured, wasn't he?

00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.079
He had dark, dark skin in that episode.

00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.640
He has loads of great ways of reminding Mr.

00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:21.920
Burns who Homer is.

00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:24.079
He's one of the chairmoisteners from Sector 70.

00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.960
Yeah, we hide him under Project Bootstrap, stuff like that.

00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:27.599
Really good.

00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:29.200
Air moistener.

00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:31.519
That's how I want to describe all my colleagues.

00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:32.559
Yeah, that's brilliant.

00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:34.079
Yeah, so Smithers.

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:35.279
Smithers.

00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:39.200
This has been played by many actors along the or actresses.

00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:40.640
I don't know, how do you say that this?

00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:41.519
Moni Penny.

00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:41.839
Yeah.

00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:42.720
Is that a secretary?

00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:43.440
Barnett Penny.

00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:44.000
Yeah, 100%.

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:44.640
Classic.

00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:46.079
Yeah, she was gonna be my pick.

00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:46.799
Yeah, she's the classic.

00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:52.400
Sorry, that I know that, but I I can't really list the Lois Lois Maxwell.

00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:53.200
Is that the original?

00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:54.480
That's the original better.

00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:54.640
No.

00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.160
She's really hot.

00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:57.119
Still hot.

00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.720
She is not that I think she's dead, but she means cremated.

00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:06.880
But in those those early ones, like she's a mega babe, and you think like all she wants to do is fuck Bond as well.

00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.680
All of them are like that's the whole point of it, no, they all want to.

00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:13.839
Do you want a list of actresses that have played Money Penny?

00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:14.160
Please.

00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:20.240
I don't have Lois Maxwell, Caroline Bliss was she took over, so she was happy.

00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:25.759
So Bond like kept kind of never ages, but Moneypenny did until she was no longer able to play him.

00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.640
So Caroline Bliss took over in the Timothy Dalton era.

00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:29.039
Okay.

00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:30.480
So through all the Connery.

00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.160
Oh right, and the Roger Moore.

00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:33.039
It was the same one.

00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:33.759
It was Lois Maxwell.

00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:34.480
It was Lois Maxwell.

00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:35.200
I didn't realise that.

00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:36.960
And then Samantha Bond.

00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:38.079
Wow.

00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:38.400
Oh.

00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:46.319
Where was Moneypenny in the Brosnan ones, and then Naomi Harris played Eve Moneypenny.

00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.839
It's the first time she's had a Christian name.

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.720
And wasn't she some sort of like super spy?

00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:50.960
No.

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:54.799
She is like no super spy, though.

00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.160
She wasn't really a secretary.

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:56.559
She was a super.

00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:57.599
No, she was in the field.

00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:58.319
She she shoots him.

00:28:58.400 --> 00:28:59.119
She shoots Bond.

00:28:59.519 --> 00:28:59.839
She does.

00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:00.319
Yes.

00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:01.440
Guypool?

00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:02.160
Or Spectacle?

00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:03.359
Quantum of Gorals.

00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:05.359
So she was in the field.

00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:12.079
So she's more fleshed out, and I'm sure I like really feel like Amazon now that they own the whole IB are going to do a Money Penny spin off.

00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:13.759
And I would watch that to be fair.

00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.319
There's some other ones, some outliers.

00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:17.359
Barbara Boucher.

00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:18.720
Remember her?

00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:21.680
I think she was was she not the one in Bang Bush?

00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:23.119
Or am I thinking someone else?

00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:31.119
Anyway, she was the one in the Casino Royale, the David Niven one, and Pamela Salem was money penny in the unofficial Never Say Never again.

00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:32.160
But that was a lot.

00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:33.359
But yeah, exactly.

00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.880
But Lois Maxwell is the definitive money name for me.

00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:38.799
Sorry, I saw your thunder because that was your pick.

00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:44.640
Well, yeah, but no, it's good because I didn't I I didn't know that that was I didn't have all the lists and that.

00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.279
I just thought, is that a secretary or is that a spy?

00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:49.119
Oh she's hundred per she's M's secretary.

00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:49.359
She is.

00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:50.880
She's just kind of there, right?

00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:51.759
So she okay, yeah.

00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.319
I would say she's the if probably the most famous secretary of all of them.

00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:56.799
Oh okay.

00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:57.200
Yeah.

00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:59.680
And she was a fucking babe as well.

00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:00.079
Yeah.

00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:01.119
Well there you go.

00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.039
That's that's all there is to it.

00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:04.720
Well you say that.

00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:16.160
Then the uh Brooklyn 99 has uh Gina Linetti, played by Chelsea Peretti, yeah, and she's a kind of sassy sometimes borderline psychotic.

00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:20.240
Yeah, give zero zero fucks to anyone.

00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:22.640
Really funny show.

00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:33.279
I mean, for twenty uh three minutes or whatever each episode's for, there's so many laughs, and she was in the earlier episodes.

00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.920
I don't think she carried on right to the end.

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:52.960
I think uh her own uh comedic kind of uh career was was taken off and she did different things, but she was uh yeah, brilliant in that and uh was uh a secretary that really just made everything fall her way.

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:53.440
Yeah.

00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:55.279
Didn't matter what what they were doing.

00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:56.480
I've got a couple others here.

00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:06.079
Ugly Betty, she was a a secretary with America First America First, that was her name.

00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.039
Right, JD I was looking at Mrs.

00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:15.839
Well, I've got one more, then I'll probably keep that as my as my as my nom.

00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:20.799
But there's Richard Schiff, he plays Secretary of State, so I didn't know if we were gonna do it.

00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:24.240
He's just a dick, isn't it?

00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:25.920
That was in Wakunda forever.

00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.119
Pepper Potts would be the other one as well from Iron Man.

00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:30.880
I think she's she's like CEO.

00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.359
I think she started as his secretary.

00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.200
Yeah, yeah, that was the the host PA basically.

00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:38.079
Yeah, right.

00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.359
Have you seen because you mentioned that fucking bell and Pete Hexeth?

00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.519
Have you seen that Trump buys them all shoes?

00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:44.319
Have you seen this?

00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:44.799
No.

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.079
Oh, it's amazing.

00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:52.640
So he he for some reason he has the thing about buying all like his inner circle these shoes, but they don't fit.

00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.640
So you need to look at the pictures of Rubio and wearing these.

00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:58.079
They're like gone shoes, honestly.

00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.279
Of course you do, you're the bosses there.

00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:02.400
Absolutely incredible.

00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:02.960
It's amazing.

00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:04.960
They're like honestly, it looks like five sizes too big.

00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:05.440
Amazing.

00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:06.319
It's cheap.

00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.799
I'll probably get them too small, so they're just like it's crushing their feet.

00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:12.480
What a strange man.

00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.400
I've only got one more, which I guess will be my nomination.

00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.359
So I've got some secretary themed bits and pieces if you're interested.

00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:20.240
How about some films?

00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:31.680
Dial Hard, Fax Me If You Can, The The Tip Exorcist, Toner the Barbarian, a few good memos, whole punch drunk love, and the silence of the laminators.

00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:41.599
And that would be starring admin driver, post-it Malone, File McLaughlin, Pen Silvestor Stallone, and A Forrest Whitaker.

00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:42.079
Nice.

00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:42.480
Yeah.

00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.079
Have you ever used a laminator?

00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:44.400
Yeah.

00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:45.279
It's great, isn't it?

00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:45.440
Yeah.

00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:46.640
I love laminating stuff.

00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:47.759
Yeah, it's got to be a good thing.

00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:48.400
Fucking brilliant.

00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:48.880
Really?

00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:49.440
Yeah, it's good.

00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.200
I've never tried laminating anything.

00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:51.519
No.

00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:52.960
Secretaries get all the fun.

00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:54.000
You think we've got a laminate.

00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:55.839
Yeah.

00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:56.400
It's great.

00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:57.039
Yeah.

00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:57.279
Oh.

00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.279
I'd never thought that that would be a thing that people enjoy doing.

00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:01.680
Yeah.

00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:01.839
Yeah.

00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:03.279
Well, that's because you've never laminated.

00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:04.880
That's true.

00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.119
Particularly if you're going to do a fresh ID.

00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:07.759
Oh, right.

00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:10.000
Anything farming.

00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:10.960
Any sort of list.

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:12.880
Did you nominate?

00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.960
I mean you're holding that till we go.

00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:16.079
I'm just going to nominate it.

00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:16.640
Go for it.

00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.680
Is who's watched the series Arrested Development?

00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:21.039
I'm aware of it.

00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.599
George Bluth's secretary Kitty.

00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:25.599
She's having a blank and I've seen it since.

00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:33.039
In the earlier series, she holds all the c has all the records that will maybe help to exonerate him, but not.

00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:40.480
And every time they'd want to get rid of her, she fucking loses it and says, because she thinks everyone finds her really hot, but she's not hot.

00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:40.880
Yeah.

00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.400
She's played, she's obviously been attracted lady, but they've sort of played it down.

00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.599
And every time they try and get rid of her, she loses, says, Well, say goodbye to these.

00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:49.200
She lives up on top.

00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:49.599
Yeah.

00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:50.079
That's right.

00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.240
Even when he's like, no, that's what do that.

00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:54.160
And it keeps happening.

00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:55.680
It's just like the running gag.

00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:56.240
It's really funny.

00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:57.119
So yeah, Kitty.

00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:58.799
Oh, that's the rest of the relevant.

00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.240
What's your name, Chris?

00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:07.119
Well, I was gonna say I was surprised that there was in during my internet research, there was a secretary that came out from Twin Peaks.

00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:08.960
I'm surprised you didn't put any Lucy.

00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:09.599
I think so.

00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:10.559
I love Lucy.

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:12.000
I'm surprised you didn't put that one in.

00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:13.199
Brilliant, actually.

00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.000
I know you you would you would have been the one to say that.

00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:21.760
But my secretary nomination goes for Miss Argentina in Beetlejuice.

00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:23.199
The green world.

00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:24.480
Green lady, yeah.

00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.280
Oh in hell, are you talking about?

00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:29.440
The receptionist in hell, the secretary in hell.

00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:33.760
She is, I can tell you, is the receptionist bureaucrat.

00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:34.960
Yeah, the in hell, yeah.

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:36.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:37.679
Oh, that's a good one.

00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:43.599
The she's in the waiting room room in hell, and she just is green and has red hair.

00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:43.920
Yeah.

00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:45.679
Like an umpalumpa or something.

00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:46.960
Yeah, it's kind of like that.

00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:48.079
Like a sexy umpalum.

00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.719
So she's a receptionist afterlife waiting.

00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:52.639
That's right, yeah.

00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.119
So apparently that's That's a good one.

00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:56.239
Beetlejuice, yeah.

00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:56.800
Yeah.

00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:57.599
It's a good one.

00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:59.360
Beetlejuice, I I like that.

00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:00.159
Daniel?

00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:01.199
Well I'll have that.

00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.920
There was the McClure who was gracing Ferris Bueller.

00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:06.639
You remember that one?

00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:08.239
You never liked that.

00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:09.280
So I didn't have that.

00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.719
And the one I'm going for is the West Wing, and it's Mrs.

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.320
Dolores Langingham.

00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:16.800
And if anybody watched the You love that, don't you?

00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:17.119
Yeah.

00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:26.079
She was the secretary to the president through all those seasons, and at one point she died because she got old.

00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:33.280
So much if they remade that programme now with them all walking around in their clown shoes, like you're talking about eating fucking McDonald's and Yeah.

00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.480
It'd be a very different it'd be a very different show.

00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.880
But that's my that's my norm, Mrs.

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:39.920
Langrenham.

00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.400
And I am going for it's a bit difficult to say, Miss Tess Masher?

00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.599
Tess Masher from the Superman franchise.

00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:52.480
Oh, is that Lex Uther's assistant boyfriend, uh girlfriend slash Yeah.

00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.519
It's specifically Gene Hackman's one.

00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:55.760
Yeah.

00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:56.000
Yeah.

00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:57.039
Starts with her.

00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:06.079
She in the first two movies in the first one, she's like portrays herself as comically stupid, but is actually really switched on and knows exactly what's going on.

00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.239
And she was in the first two Superman movies, not in the others.

00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:17.360
She was in the Supergirl TV series, and then in James Gunn's Superman 2025, she was played by Sara Sampiao again.

00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:18.239
Sample.

00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:19.039
Sampai?

00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:20.559
Sarah Sampaio.

00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:21.360
Yeah, Sampaio.

00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:21.760
That's the one.

00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:22.719
Sarah Sampaio.

00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:22.880
Yeah.

00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:23.920
She's an interesting.

00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:24.159
Yeah.

00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:25.760
She was a underwear mogul.

00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.280
She's very pretty.

00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:29.119
And she takes that she.

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:34.159
Jimmy Olson, who's played by I can't remember his name, Skyler, whatever his name is.

00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:36.159
He's the guy from Booksmark.

00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.000
Yeah, Gizmondo, or whatever his name is.

00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:39.840
Something like Gizmondo or something.

00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.639
He he she has a foot fetish, or there's some.

00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:43.760
Yes, I know the one.

00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:44.079
Yeah, yeah.

00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:45.360
He's they're sort of dating.

00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:46.079
Yeah, sort of.

00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:46.639
Bizarry.

00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.800
In the background of all the photos she's taken, is all the incriminating evidence to bring down like that.

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.119
Yeah, she's portrayed as being like a ditzy Instagram model.

00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:54.159
The same thing again, yeah.

00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.280
She's actually doing covert yeah, black ops.

00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:57.519
Yeah.

00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:57.840
Okay.

00:36:58.159 --> 00:36:59.840
So test masher.

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:00.800
Cool.

00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.920
We need one more secretary to be filed in our top five.

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.360
Did we have top five last time?

00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:08.079
Filing cabinet.

00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:10.639
We didn't get any numbers if we did.

00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:13.920
Well, we've to be fair, we've been a bit neglectful for the cards.

00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:14.559
Was it gardens?

00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:15.280
I think.

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:18.400
So I I can't remember.

00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.480
So you do stuff about that.

00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:21.039
And things.

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.039
We're gonna talk about our main feature.

00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:23.840
What's it called?

00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:24.880
Secretary.

00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.199
And then it kind of went like, oh, do you mean that?

00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.320
And then I've seen the The posters horny poster.

00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:47.360
Out of the gate, the poster.

00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:49.920
You were like, okay, I'm in for this week's.

00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:51.920
I said to Kira, I was like, where was it?

00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:52.960
Did you watch it with the missus?

00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:53.280
Yeah.

00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:53.519
Yeah.

00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:54.000
So did I.

00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:54.639
Did you?

00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:54.960
Yeah.

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:55.280
Right.

00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:57.440
So Dan sat down to watch this with his daughter.

00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:57.840
Yeah.

00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:58.239
Yeah.

00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.599
The first scene gives you a flavour of what this might be about.

00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:05.519
Well, because it begins in Media Res with our hero Lee.

00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.559
She's coming through like on her hands and knees.

00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:10.639
She's super smart.

00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:11.039
Yeah.

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:12.880
So pencil skirt.

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:13.119
Yeah.

00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:13.679
White blouse.

00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:14.639
Stockings, I'm assuming.

00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.320
She's going off on the stage.

00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:18.800
And that thing's called a spreader bar.

00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:19.840
Yeah, a spreader bar.

00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.000
So you can have those for your legs or for your arms.

00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:32.400
She is wearing them, she has them applied to her wrists, so she cannot move her arms, but she's still undertaking, like any good secretary, um the the morning routine.

00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:34.480
Her mundane administration task.

00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:42.400
She's making coffee, she's I did fear that the thing that she pulls out, whatever the document is she pulls out the typewriter with her mouth, would be blemished.

00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:43.280
I think so.

00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.119
I don't think that can go to clients.

00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:54.000
Well, there could be consequences for that kind of blemishing, I would think, so it's so uh she goes into the office and closes the door, and then we go back to her.

00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:55.039
How does she do the stapling?

00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:55.760
Is she doing that with her?

00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:56.960
She just bangs it with her chin.

00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:57.280
Yeah.

00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:02.079
But someone has placed them where they can be stapled by her doing that.

00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.039
Yeah, she takes the documents, she gets him a cup of coffee.

00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.679
I also didn't think that she stirred the sugar in well enough.

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.039
Again, could be consequences.

00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.079
You can get quite attached to that way of stapling, can't you?

00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:12.400
Yeah.

00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.119
I've staple gunned my leg once, we fucking sore.

00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:15.599
Really?

00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:16.239
Yeah, yeah.

00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.360
There's nothing to do with like this sort of thing.

00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:28.480
But yeah, she goes into the boss's office and closes the door, and then we go back six months to see how we've arrived at this particular point.

00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:28.960
Yes.

00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.039
And she kind of starts telling the story, right?

00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:32.320
She's the narrator, yeah.

00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.360
She says I was released from an institution on the day of my sister's wedding, which is a good way.

00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.000
It's like we see her, she's kind of frumpy, really, and she's wearing really shit kind of shit.

00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:43.679
She's no shinpad.

00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:49.440
What we what we've seen her like looking really glamorous and sexy, now she's wearing like biff socks and shitty shoes.

00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:49.599
Yeah.

00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.559
She's kind of like body language is all kind of down.

00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.400
Yeah, hair's not really washed.

00:39:54.800 --> 00:40:02.960
And when we do see her later at the party that she goes to, she's wearing like this oversized prom dress is really unflattering.

00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:03.360
Yeah.

00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.159
No shape or silhouette, as you're supposed to say, I think.

00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.639
She's watching it's her sister, isn't it?

00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:08.960
She says.

00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:09.280
Yeah.

00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:18.719
Like this the actual wedding ceremony, then there's this cake and all the stuff, and everyone's happy, and she legs it off to her room and gets a box out.

00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:19.280
Yeah.

00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:20.719
She has a box of paraphernalia.

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.199
I think it's a ballerina that she's managed to sharpen.

00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:29.119
She's got various like personal implements in there that have obviously been favourites over the years.

00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.679
But yeah, she takes a ballerina with a sharpened foot.

00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.199
Yeah, she's got like a whetstone that she sharpens the foot of it, and then you see she's self-harmed.

00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.320
She's got a that's why I guess why she's been in an institution.

00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:49.519
She's Yeah, slightly later she'll reveal that when her par her parents are a fucking car crash, her dad is a is enough, but he's an alcoholic.

00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:50.960
He's dry at this point.

00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:51.280
Yeah.

00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.480
Or he had been, and I think he starts drinking at the wedding, doesn't he?

00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.280
He hugs her and she says, I thought you I thought you'd stop drinking.

00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:01.760
And he just brushes that off, and then immediately like he just crashes and burns.

00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:02.320
He's fucked.

00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:07.360
But I think obviously a pattern of sobriety and non-sobriety and all that stuff.

00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:16.719
And her mum is like highly strung and avoiding really what's going on with her husband and with her daughter, and he's sort of burying her head in the sand.

00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.360
And that's the first time we meet what's his name?

00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:20.320
Is it Peter?

00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:20.719
Yes.

00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:22.559
The mustache mullet guy.

00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:23.199
Yeah.

00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:23.519
Yeah.

00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:29.679
He's like a harmless but kind of do for us sort of boyfriend love interest character, isn't he?

00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:30.559
Yeah.

00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:40.400
And yeah, it's really like a portrait of a very dysfunctional family and this poor girl at the centre of it who's kind of taken out these frustrations by cutting herself.

00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:40.880
Yeah.

00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:55.280
And the hospitalization that has happened just before this encounter was because her mum was giving her grief and she was trying to do the washing up, and she tried to base it she cuts herself so that she can feel the pain, so she doesn't feel the inside pain anymore, right?

00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:04.639
So but she did it in the sink, accidentally cut herself too deep and ended up, you know, people thought it was a suicide attempt, and in her mind it wasn't.

00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.679
But obviously if you keep harming yourself in a particular way.

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:08.079
Yeah.

00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:16.960
And we see all sorts of horrible like when her parents Is it at this point when her parents are arguing that she's got a hot kettle on the stove and she takes it up and puts it on her thumb?

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.400
Yeah, after the wedding, they they start arguing because the dad is keeping it.

00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:21.519
He throws her to the ground.

00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:22.000
He's violent.

00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:23.760
He pushes the mum to the floor, that's right.

00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:31.440
And yeah, she gets it's one of those old kettles, you know, that you put on the stove and it whistles, and you can see her you can see her reaction is like pleasure pain.

00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:36.559
Yeah, it just takes her mind off the the other trauma onto something else, you know.

00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:36.960
Yeah.

00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:47.039
And and the production design's interesting because it's really vibrant, the colours, but there's full of because it's the wedding and all that stuff, there's full of like plastic sheeting and covering everywhere.

00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:53.440
So um it gives a the set like a strange, overly produced kind of look, a bit linchian sometimes.

00:42:53.679 --> 00:43:01.360
And that'll be a big contrast to like the way that Edward Grey's office looks, which is all dark and natural colours.

00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:09.119
Anyway, she I think it's sort of at the behest of her mum enrolls in a secretarial school, and it turns out she's shit out of typing.

00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:09.519
Yeah.

00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.360
And you see her like it's almost like a Rocky montage, and she's like looking away, doing it.

00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:19.920
The guy's saying you need to your fingers need to touch the keyboard in a way that they bounce onto the next key, and she's just like, She's like fucking all over it.

00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:21.280
She's like an amazing typist.

00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:22.719
Can any type like that?

00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:23.039
No.

00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:23.840
No.

00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:31.519
I I'm I'm like, not that people type like not a novice.

00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.519
You can look at the screen and don't have to look in your to try and find a key.

00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:41.039
But like number wise, because I've got an account and I can do the number bit like a picture on that.

00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:41.360
Yeah.

00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:43.440
Number wang.

00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:44.239
Number wang.

00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:48.639
But can you kind of just look at the screen and type a whole email without looking down at the keyboard?

00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:49.840
Because I'm not quite there.

00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:50.639
I'm not bad.

00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.159
But I would make it seven out of ten in that sense.

00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:55.920
But number number wang, doing calculations.

00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:56.880
Yeah, do that all right.

00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:57.599
Number wang.

00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:58.960
Anyway, that's not very sexy.

00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:10.159
Yeah, I think it's Her mother and also in a in in a way to like almost like being on parole and not going back to being institutionalized, she has to get a job and have a in inverted commas normal life.

00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.119
So she's she starts circling job interviews.

00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:17.920
Well she's trying to take out her to throw away the the kit, she puts it in the bin.

00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:18.239
Yeah.

00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:20.159
And then she f she looks at the paper.

00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:22.880
It's like the the classical thing, the help wanted.

00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:40.559
She starts looking through the uh and she circles a few things and then is like secretary, come to this place or whatever.

00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:45.440
When he turns up there, it's got like all lights, it's all on like all these bulbs of light.

00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:46.480
It's like a motel sign.

00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:59.039
Like a motel sign, exactly, for a secretary wanted, which was really strange, but it's at this law office, a mum takes her there, and as she's going in, uh some secretaries leaving, like all flustered and it's all shit everywhere.

00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:00.800
It just looks like office has been destroyed.

00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:02.880
Yeah, it looks like someone tried to rob the place.

00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:03.519
Yeah.

00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.679
It does exactly look like that.

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:10.639
And it's pretty obvious that secretaries don't really tend to last very long at wherever we're at.

00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.239
And we're at James Spader's place.

00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:22.800
His casting is interesting because he obviously has quite a lot it's quite loaded his casting with lots of because he's been in lots of sexy films and drive to me, sex eyes and videotape.

00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:23.599
Crashy dude.

00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:24.960
Sorry, crash is the last thing I've got.

00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:25.920
Sex eyes and videotape.

00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:26.239
Yeah.

00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:27.440
Age of Ultron.

00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.920
It's on yeah, exactly.

00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.480
Sexually complicated men, like Ultron.

00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:33.039
Yeah.

00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:33.519
Yeah.

00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:38.480
So they have this bizarre interview, very, very formal.

00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.000
She's quite childlike in her manner as well.

00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.880
And he like instantly leans into it, assuming like he likes to be dominant.

00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:48.480
Quite dominant, obviously.

00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:55.039
And he says that she's like massively overqualified and you know she'll find it very dull.

00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:56.960
He won't allow computers.

00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:57.519
Yeah.

00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:58.960
It has to be a typewriter.

00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.440
A bit like Tom Hanks in that way.

00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.239
He's ups he's obsessed with typewriters, Tom Hanks.

00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:04.800
Is he?

00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:05.199
Yes.

00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:06.400
Did not know that.

00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.639
You didn't have one on that island where he was.

00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:10.079
Absolutely true, yeah.

00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:11.760
In in the real life, Tom Hanks.

00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:12.639
He doesn't want a computer.

00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:13.920
Big big typewriter fan.

00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:14.559
Anyhow.

00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:20.559
So despite the promise of it only being dull work, she signs up to it and it visibly boosts her getting this job.

00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:36.079
And he's got it's a really strange place, it's all dark and all that sort of stuff, and he's got these like huge glass cases with orchids in it that he injects stuff into in a very phallic suggested manner and it mists all over it.

00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:38.639
And he won't touch the phone.

00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:40.239
He uses like like I don't know if he's a big thing.

00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:41.760
Well, it was Dart.

00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.000
It's Dart's desk.

00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:48.000
He's separated from his wife?

00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:48.400
Yes.

00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:50.159
She appeared.

00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:51.440
It's January Jones, isn't it?

00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:52.960
Is that is that who that was?

00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:53.519
I thought it was.

00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:57.679
Anyhow, turned it on ASMR.

00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:00.079
Eating sweets.

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.280
She turns up and destroys his coat, I think.

00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:06.400
She slams it.

00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:07.440
She scrambles all over it.

00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:16.480
While he hides in the cupboard, it's been the only time that you see him be a bit like Yeah, he's not quite as always as dominating as he as he might first appear.

00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:20.159
And she says, just tell him to sign the fucking agreement or the settlement, I think.

00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:21.679
The divorce settlement, obviously.

00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.400
And so she's a bit like, ooh, fucking hell, what's going on?

00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.960
And then we're gonna get to see her do some typing, do some letters for it.

00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:38.639
Well, he's very exacting, has impeccably high standards, and everything is done manually, like you said, on a typewriter, no computers.

00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:47.840
And he's got these red markers, hasn't he, that he circles her The mistakes the mistakes on to alert them.

00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:50.159
There's a few before it starts to get horny.

00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:54.079
There's just a few where he sort of berates her for making mistakes.

00:47:54.400 --> 00:48:04.559
And there's there's so many scenes that are loaded with sexual tension as well, like when he's getting her to bait mouse traps and she's like hiking up her skirt and got one leg bent over and she's looking back at him and all that stuff.

00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.000
It's like you're just waiting for them to fuck at some point, aren't you?

00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.119
Really Yeah, it'll take fucking ages though, because it it's he's Well, it's not really his bag either.

00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:14.400
He's really repressed.

00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:15.039
Yeah.

00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:16.960
But let's just cut to the chase.

00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.840
Like eventually there's there's like one mistake too many.

00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:35.199
Well, it's important first though, because before that, I can't quite remember how it happens, but he after one particularly bad chewing out, she goes back to her desk to self-harm and he catches her doing that and then he brings her back, and he's actually fairly tender, but he uses his position.

00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.800
She is so subservient to him in a work sense, anyway.

00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.719
And he uses that power to say, You won't do that again, you won't be able to do that.

00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.440
That's what the the the wife says, right?

00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:52.239
She's like submissive, just what she li what he likes, or something like that to her, you know, when when she's like guys in here.

00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:53.920
And she's just like, What?

00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:58.639
But So he and then he commands her, he says, You will never hurt yourself again.

00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.079
And like she's absolutely freed by that.

00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:02.400
Yeah.

00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:03.920
She takes it and throws it off the bridge.

00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:04.880
She gets rid of all of it.

00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:06.480
I don't like that though, littering.

00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:10.159
It's no it's it's beneficial for her, bad for the environment.

00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:11.440
Yeah, it's not good for the environment.

00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.400
But she does get rid of the good to call that out though, Chris thanks.

00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:17.360
Her the tools of her self-harm are gone.

00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:17.760
Yeah.

00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:25.119
And yeah, then it's gonna get to And he's told her like she's built herself up a bit as well because he's told her to dress sexier and all this stuff.

00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:25.920
So they've got all the things.

00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:42.239
How to answer the phone, how to like really sell the sort of you're the front of office, you represent me in all these dealings, and she visibly, like you say, grows and she sort of really projects her voice, and this is how and he's and he like congratulates her and is like, Yes, that's what you so she's like buzzing about all this.

00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:51.599
Yeah, but unfortunately, she does make one or two typos, yeah, and that is gonna really come back to haunt her in a scene that you definitely should have watched with all your family.

00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.679
Pulls her into his office and bring that letter, I think.

00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.840
Or he's got it on the desk, and he's like, put it on the desk, and she's like, What?

00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.000
And he's like, put it on the desk and bend over my desk.

00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:11.119
He tells her to read it, and she's she's still like unsure, like what the fuck's going on, and he's like, get your face close to it, bend over it, put your face close to the letter and read it to me.

00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:12.400
What does that say?

00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:19.360
And as she starts to read it out, it the camera's like locked on her face, yeah, and you just hear th whack and it just starts spanking.

00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:20.639
It starts slapping around.

00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.800
And she is not upset about it.

00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:23.199
No.

00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:34.480
Well, she's just exchanged the pain that she gave herself for his pain that's inflicted on her, so it's a bit difficult to work out what whether that's really good or not, but it certainly seems beneficial for her in this, anyway.

00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:39.360
So after she's had ass spanked, she's sent off to uh fix the letter, isn't she?

00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:39.840
Yeah.

00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:46.239
And this sort of carries on so like deliberate mistakes, and she's super into it.

00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:50.480
Well what now she's making mistakes like she would never have made before.

00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.519
She's getting what she wants, he is getting what he wants.

00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.880
She we see her at home reading up about who's paying for this?

00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.039
The clients are paying for this time, though, aren't they?

00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:00.880
Dan's interested in working.

00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.440
I'm just thinking like they make a hall of fame of mistakes.

00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:10.400
She framed, or he frames all her letters with the circle on the way to the side.

00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:14.480
On the walls of the office, it's just all of the scene where she later on.

00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:15.920
Clients might be asking a few questions.

00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:16.960
Imagine clients coming.

00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:19.920
Have I paid for there's an hour's type in here.

00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:24.239
There's a scene where she wears a saddle, she's like with hay on his desk.

00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:25.519
Yeah, they do a little montage, don't they?

00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:33.280
Yeah, she's got a carrot in her mouth, and she's just She's on all fours on top of his desk, hay lying around.

00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:37.199
Yeah, carrot, saddle escalating this behaviour.

00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:38.400
But they never fuck.

00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:39.440
They never fuck.

00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:40.559
He's not interested in that.

00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.239
And but we do see her at one point at home reading Masturbating.

00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:50.400
No, but at one point she's reading a book or listening to an audio, like a tape about Dom and sub-relationships.

00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:52.239
So she fully understands.

00:51:52.559 --> 00:52:00.159
Well, at first, she's reading fucking Mary Claire about how to please your man, and she very quickly works out that that's not gonna do it, and that's not what he's into.

00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:00.480
Yeah.

00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:04.880
And so then, yeah, she does sort of so she does her homework, she really understands.

00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:06.320
This is like proper kink stuff.

00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:07.679
Yeah, this is BDSM.

00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:10.400
And it's mostly but a lot of it is about the power.

00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:16.719
There's a lot of she talks about being told to walk home instead of get in the car and how she enjoyed the journey and she never was.

00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:18.800
It's the first time I've ever really walked anywhere.

00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:19.119
Yeah.

00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.119
Like with proper intent by herself.

00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.519
And then she feels like he's with her because he's told her to go and do it.

00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:27.599
And then, like, really kinky shit as well.

00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:31.760
Like, she'll phone him up and he goes, like, right, you can have one spoonful of potato.

00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.159
Brutal, my mess is like, What peas?

00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.119
As much ice cream as you want for dinner, and that's it.

00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:47.199
And she's like at the dinner table, like eating these peas in the family, like, oh and then because she is a bit frustrated when he does eventually sort of turn his back on.

00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:49.760
Is this when she because she's also with Peter?

00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:55.119
He is sort of yeah, Peter's like just he's never gonna cut the mustard for her.

00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.000
No, but and in fact, it's she tries to get him to spank her.

00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.199
Yeah, well, she yeah, they're having sex and she keeps getting his hand and putting it on her ass.

00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:10.559
But like and doing this, and it's she lies across his lap like that, and he's a bit like, what?

00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.039
And she he says, Oh, I've got a condom.

00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:14.480
She's like, That's not what I mean.

00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:16.880
She's fucking really frustrated about it.

00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:17.199
Yeah.

00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:26.159
But he is also he writes, he he actually types out a letter to her or a little note saying, I'm sorry, I'm so disgusting, I don't know why I'm like this.

00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:26.880
I'm really sorry.

00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:28.320
Yeah, he's really ashamed of himself.

00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.639
He does, so he can't reconcile it himself.

00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.119
The lawyer the way that he carries on James Spader.

00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:34.239
Yeah, he shreds that.

00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:47.679
Um But it's a key to how he feels, and he does like And that's when he kind of he cuts it off a little bit and just sort of goes back to a normal like she starts making typos and put it in front of him and he's not interested, or he's busy on calls and all this sort of stuff.

00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.360
She's well frustrated by that, and her plan to get it back is amazing.

00:53:51.519 --> 00:54:15.360
She sees this big fat worm in the garden and she picks it up and she writes a letter to him, posts it, and she sees her all sexy, and she's put this fucking live worm in the post and sends it to him so that when he opens it later, he draws round it and he gets his red pen out, draws round it, and they've got a client there, and he's like, Miss Holloway, get in here now, and she's like, But Mr.

00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:19.920
Blah blah's here, and he's like, Get in here now, and comes in for another.

00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.800
She's there with a grin, just like Is that many wanks on her?

00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:23.039
Yeah.

00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:23.360
Yeah.

00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:28.639
That's the first time he actually So he gives her a bit of a thrashing and then just jerks off on a client there.

00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:29.360
No, client's not in the back.

00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:31.199
Right, okay.

00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:33.760
She has to walk out with spinks all up her back.

00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:43.039
Yeah, but he doesn't he doesn't spank her, he just No, he just he just bends her, she's expecting the spanking and she can just hear him, and he's like really audibly and like visibly like wanking.

00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:48.239
Yeah, and he just she's got like a sort of silk blouse and all the back of it's just like got cheers off it.

00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:51.599
And she goes to the bog and is is it the client that's in the other Yeah.

00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:57.519
No, no, it's the P it's the other PA in the other cubicle, and she just friggs herself off in the bog until she comes.

00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:01.519
Yeah, and she's like she gets she wipes it off with the tissue, like smelling it, yeah.

00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:02.800
So horny.

00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:04.000
Honestly, it's amazing.

00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.400
Wow, I know Yeah, this is not yeah.

00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:07.440
Why did I watch the stuff?

00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:13.920
Honestly, when you're watching it, that is the content, but I didn't think it was like super perfect or it's not depraved or anything.

00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:18.079
It just takes it's just like what takes level and level, yeah.

00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:20.480
Well, two consent in adults, yeah.

00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:24.480
Whatever whatever floats you say still have not had sex at this point, right?

00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:24.800
Yeah.

00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:30.159
Yeah, and then they and then I think he just after this, he just tells her you're you're fired.

00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:36.719
Maybe maybe it's kind of a um a blueprint to how to not cheat on your partner.

00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:40.159
You know, this is rid of her.

00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:41.679
This is all legit he does, yeah.

00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:43.760
So he just tells her you're fired.

00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:49.840
Because he's reconciled, you know, it's again all that stuff about how disgusting he is and the shame and stuff like that.

00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:55.920
This is not your traditional kind of relationship, you know, that you might you know normally understand.

00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:57.679
Also, she's young and vulnerable.

00:55:57.920 --> 00:55:58.079
Yeah.

00:55:58.239 --> 00:55:59.599
And he might be exploiting her.

00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:01.599
Well, she's come from a mental institution.

00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:02.159
Exactly.

00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:03.920
So she kind of rebounds back.

00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:06.320
Yeah, she's very childlike with her with Peter.

00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:10.000
With Peter, and he proposes to her and she sort of says yes.

00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:16.480
Doesn't really just it all happens very quickly out of uh to the point where we actually get the wedding.

00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:17.119
Yeah.

00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:18.079
She's in a wedding dress.

00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:19.039
No, we should have dressed.

00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:20.960
She's trying on wedding dresses.

00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.159
But we're very close because his uh brother is getting dressed.

00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:31.440
Yeah, I think her mother-in-law says as long as her mother-in-law says, as long as you don't breathe throughout the wedding, you should be fine in this, right?

00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:32.880
Yeah, it's a hand me down, isn't it?

00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.599
And at that point she's like, No, this is not what I want.

00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.639
She runs away in It's still in the wedding dress.

00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:40.960
She runs off from his office.

00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.199
If I'm the fella here, I'm like, whoa! Yeah.

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:44.400
Woman in a wedding dress.

00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:45.679
She runs in to declare her love.

00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:51.280
She says, I love you, and he's like He's not really sure, so she has to undergo a test.

00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:54.719
So he tells her to just sit in the chair and don't move.

00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:57.280
And hands on the desk, feet on the feet on the floor.

00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.000
Do not take down Don't move, and I'll be back.

00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:01.840
And then he goes.

00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:08.480
And the camera just stays on her, and you can see it gets dark, so it's not like he's not just popped out for coffee, he's fucking gone.

00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:12.880
And she completely subservient, just stays there.

00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.559
Maybe for a day he's watching from and then he calls Peter.

00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:17.920
He calls yeah, exactly.

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.320
He calls Peter, Peter comes along to try and convince her.

00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:21.679
She actually you see her piss herself.

00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.920
Yeah, it's after the city.

00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:26.719
Because first of all, Peter comes in and it's like, what the fuck's going on?

00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:27.679
We're getting married.

00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.199
And he goes to her and she says, I don't want to, leave me alone.

00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.519
She finds him, he pulls her off the desk and she fucking freaks out.

00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:37.360
She's like, No, you can't like kicks him in the dick.

00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.880
She thinks like she's like failed the test, you know, because she's come away from the desk.

00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:44.239
So she kicks him in the bollocks, tells him the fuck off, and she goes straight back, bang.

00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:45.119
And Mr.

00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:49.039
Grey, which is his name, unbelievably, if you think of fifty shades of grey, but Mr.

00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:49.760
Grey is watching his.

00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:53.840
Yeah, probably was.

00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.559
And then yeah, she stays so long that she pisses herself.

00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:00.400
She becomes this kind of minor sort of news celebrity.

00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:01.760
They think she Well, everybody comes.

00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.239
Her the parents come this like a hunger strike.

00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:09.840
All the all the all the characters that have been in the film throughout the film, they all end up outside the this guy's.

00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:10.960
I just don't get it.

00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:14.480
So she totally embarrasses herself in front of all these people.

00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:22.719
Everyone that we see, and one of Gray's other secretaries who might have fulfilled a similar sort of role in his life, but that had gone at some point.

00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.559
Another one, a secretary who also kind of loved him in this submissive way.

00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.119
And she just stays there, stays there, stays there.

00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:31.199
And eventually, I think it's three days.

00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:31.679
Yeah.

00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:33.840
Three days he comes in through the door.

00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:43.119
The best bit actually is really just before he comes in, is her dad comes in and he's again trying to go sober, but he's he's a bit like I'm just I'm proud of you.

00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:44.320
He just tells that's all he does.

00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:47.039
He says, I don't know what any of this is, but I'm proud of you, he tells her.

00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:47.920
Yeah.

00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:50.000
If only he did know.

00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:51.199
Exactly.

00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:56.960
Then Gray comes in and he scoops her up, um, carries her out.

00:58:57.440 --> 00:58:58.239
Which I found interesting.

00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:00.960
Yeah, always a bit.

00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:04.800
But it looks very romantic as he's carrying around, she's got her arms around his face.

00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:06.559
I carry her across the threshold.

00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:08.880
She sounds an absolute dream boat.

00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:09.199
Yeah.

00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.000
Uh well you go see her naked now because that's what happens.

00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:13.119
They they this is where they have sex.

00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:15.760
He bathes and feeds her, and you see her kissing.

00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:18.400
She's got she's covered in scars, obviously, from herself.

00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.360
She says this is the first time I've ever felt beautiful.

00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:21.679
Yeah.

00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:22.800
And then they fuck.

00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:28.639
And they she says we can't do this 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and she says, Why not?

00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:29.760
And she's got a mask.

00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:30.880
He says, why not?

00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:32.159
No, sorry, it's the other way around.

00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:35.280
He says we can't just do this all the time, and she's like, Why not?

00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:38.159
Which is at the crux of their relationship.

00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:43.840
And then I think the next thing is you see their shotgun wedding, they're dressed in black and he's fucking her up against the tree with a tree.

00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:44.800
She's tied up to a tree, yeah.

00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.440
Yeah, with all the bark like rubbing into her back.

00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:50.000
So yeah, honeymoon was a bit bondagey.

00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:50.800
Wow.

00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:57.599
And then like after that, you go to like the sort of domestic side, I guess, of their relationship.

00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:00.239
They're just making the bed or you know, talking about it.

01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.639
But he tells her this needs to be the line he's.

01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.519
Oh, it's still very precise tighter.

01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:06.800
For that for that sheet tighter.

01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:14.239
But they're just doing it or whatever, and all that sort of stuff, and it's all the mundane shit, and then she just picks up like a cockroach into their well-made bed and drops it.

01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:16.400
So my message goes, I didn't get the cockroach bit.

01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.480
I'm like, She wants to be spanked.

01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:19.360
Yeah.

01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:20.639
Go and get yeah, exactly.

01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:22.480
Go get the red pen.

01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:22.960
Yeah.

01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:26.079
And so, yeah, I guess underneath the surface.

01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:31.440
And then he goes to work, she sits outside, then you you know, on the porch.

01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:33.519
She kind of looked straight at the camera at that point, didn't she?

01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:33.840
Yeah.

01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:35.840
And then that's the end.

01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:36.400
Yep.

01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:36.960
I'm pretty sure.

01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.760
She's looking directly at the Who did you watch this with, Reeks?

01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:41.519
I saw this by myself, Dad.

01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:42.320
Oh, did you?

01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:44.480
I'd seen this before as well, so I knew what to expect.

01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:44.960
Right.

01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:46.079
Is that why you watched it?

01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:46.639
I don't know.

01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:50.239
Chris, did you watch it with it?

01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:51.440
Yeah, I watched it with Kira, yeah.

01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.239
How how did that go down in the uh in the household?

01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:55.920
I mean she watched it.

01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.000
It's not like she turned around and whatever.

01:00:58.239 --> 01:00:58.719
She was a little bit.

01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:00.239
Did you tell her not to turn around?

01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:00.559
Fuck.

01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:01.760
Tell her, you tell her what's what.

01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.079
Did you tell her to watch it and not turn around?

01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:05.679
No, no, no.

01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:06.480
No.

01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:07.840
It's it's fine.

01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:14.480
To be fair, she she didn't really she didn't this is not what she's into, so she didn't Is that what she said?

01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:16.800
Well yeah, that's what she told me at least.

01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:19.920
But she didn't enjoy it, but No.

01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:21.840
Wasn't honestly neither did I.

01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.320
But this this movie is now twenty four years old.

01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:26.000
I mean a lot has moved on.

01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:31.519
Like to for people people know what BDSM is, but they didn't necessarily back in early.

01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:36.320
And I I guess the big comparison is Fifty Shades of Grey, right?

01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:39.920
Which came out a lot later and was a lot more vanilla than this, I think.

01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:44.320
I've not seen it or read it or really aware of the content other than it's like.

01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.320
I have seen Fifty Shades of Grey, and it wasn't It's Twilight fanfiction.

01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:53.840
Yeah, it it didn't sound anything like as I don't know how edgy is this.

01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:59.599
I haven't seen this sort of stuff in many other like Hollywood films.

01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:00.159
No.

01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:04.480
Sorry, as far as two freaks with matching freak meeting up and freaking out.

01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:12.960
I think it's probably to me seems like a fairly sensitive portrayal of someone getting involved in a BDSM relationship.

01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.639
Yeah, it it sounds like they found each other, you know what I mean?

01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:28.559
And and obviously they got married in the end, and it wasn't one person being into their their side of the relationship just to please the other person.

01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:30.320
It was like they were both getting something.

01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.239
Yeah, he's concerned, he has misgivings about whether he might be exploiting her, I think.

01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:34.559
Yeah.

01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:39.199
And she you see that she is Well, and a bit of shame from what he's getting turned on by.

01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:43.679
But we can also see that she's reading up and learning about what he's doing.

01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.880
How to please him, you know, so she's going into it with open eyes.

01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:47.199
Yeah.

01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:56.639
I do find uh trading one form of physical abuse for another a bit comp not even I'm just gonna say complex, basically.

01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:58.000
I'm not even like not problematic.

01:02:58.239 --> 01:02:59.760
I mean it's definitely the better of the two options.

01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:00.320
Exactly.

01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:05.760
And the m uh but the movie is not too much trying to sell you on that idea.

01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.119
It's more about these like people who found each other more than anything.

01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:21.679
And and the fact that he kind of cared enough to say you're not gonna do that anymore, and it had the instinct on her to throw away her testing her by putting I remember what the first time this is the second time I was seeing it.

01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.320
The first time I watched it, I was like, that is a bit weird.

01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:29.360
So like leaving her for three days to see if she passes the test is a bit like that's a bit fucked up.

01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:32.559
The power dynamics are a bit, but then that's part of what gets them all.

01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:39.440
Well, I was referring to her throwing away the the tools of harm and things that you know he'd be.

01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:43.840
He'd seen her do and thought that's not healthy.

01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:46.079
Obviously, it's not.

01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:58.880
Then his alternatives don't sound much more healthy, but maybe he feels in control enough to think, Well, I wouldn't ask you to do anything that would really cause you a great deal of pain.

01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.599
There's never she's done some pretty awful things to herself.

01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:09.039
Yeah, that was the probably for me, that was the best part of the film where he actually he's honest, he's I'm shy, you're shy, I'm like this.

01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:11.119
Just from now on, he's quite assertive.

01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:20.320
He just tells her how it is and and she feels good about it, then it's just and even the light, how she walks through the park and all that, that's like the nicest part of the film for me.

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:20.639
You know.

01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:32.880
They never explicitly have a bit where they talk about safe words or consent, but you never It never goes over the never get a feeling that he would do anything to her that she wouldn't if she said I don't like that, he would stop.

01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:36.480
There's a little bit of boundary pushing on both of their behalves, isn't there?

01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:39.760
Like how far can this go safely that they're exploring?

01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.719
Yeah, it's it all seemed very consensual.

01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:43.760
Pretty horrible.

01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:57.280
The original story that's based on, so it's based on a short story, it's very different, and the sort of like rom-com ending of this is in the book is quite completely different, is like trauma and settlement money and all kinds of stuff.

01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:57.599
Yeah.

01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:00.559
So a very different feel to what this was.

01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:22.159
Well, the the fact that the word used there, consensual, makes it sound much more palatable than you know, and enjoyable to watch, I I guess, than if there had been uh an imbalance of power one way or the other or harm that you know would they even have sex till like really later on in the film.

01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:25.760
When they're already a lot of the time, like she's not wearing like super sexy outfits.

01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:28.719
This the one that they show you at the start is when it's actually her most glamorous.

01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:30.559
That's when she's like fully into it.

01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:30.880
Yeah.

01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:38.960
Most of the time she's just wearing like Bridget Joan, big pants and like tights and stuff, and she's not like dressing like overtly sexual.

01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:41.440
Flirtatious, it's not exploited.

01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:47.119
And even the blouse is not like open so you can see She's a secretary in a lawyer's office.

01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.639
She's gotta be kind of professional in case clients come in, I guess.

01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.639
I don't think that they flash their underwear to clients per se.

01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:55.280
Oh three.

01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:57.840
Maybe they should three hundred quid an hour, they should, shouldn't they?

01:05:58.159 --> 01:05:59.760
Score's really good as well, very unusual.

01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:02.079
Angelo Badlemente, yeah.

01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:08.320
And the very unusual rhythm to it, like like almost like the rhythm of speech the school has.

01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:14.239
It's very bizarre because the speech as well between them is very stilted purposefully.

01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:19.679
Like because they're both playing a role within a role within a role a little bit with themselves as well.

01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:20.400
So Yeah.

01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:21.519
Did you enjoy this one?

01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:22.639
Yeah, I really like this.

01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:23.679
I really really like this.

01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:25.039
You you didn't think so much of it.

01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:26.480
No, it's too long.

01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:27.280
Right.

01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:29.840
How long was this one hour fifty one.

01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:30.800
Yeah, one hour fifty one.

01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:31.199
Okay.

01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:31.599
Right.

01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:34.719
So not But it's not much action.

01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:37.760
And it's just like it kind of slow burner.

01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:43.119
It kinda goes again through the whole I I understand that they need to reach that and it's it's the whole journey.

01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:48.079
And I liked a few bits and a few aspects of it, and I think both of them played the role really well.

01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:48.480
Yeah.

01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:52.719
And the the the decor of the w what was this?

01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:54.239
99, 92?

01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:54.960
2002.

01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:56.079
2002.

01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:56.400
Okay.

01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:10.239
It's it's such a it's a throwback decor with just like houseplants and n like Rig said, natural colours and just there's nothing, you know, like is it is now minimalistic and blah blah blah.

01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:13.199
It's it's just how things used to be, I guess.

01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:18.559
That that's how an office used to be like and A are you a big BDSM fan yourself?

01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:19.519
No, not really.

01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:20.639
I don't really understand.

01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:31.360
And and but look, I understand more now, and I'm I'm i the the thing is again, this is the the part where she's wearing the spreader bar.

01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.079
The spreader bar and the saddles and all that.

01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:39.519
In the film, it looks like she's the happiest she's ever been in the film, right?

01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:40.960
And and in her life.

01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:45.519
So if if that's how these people feel and that's how they are, I'm really happy to be able to do it.

01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:46.239
Float your boat.

01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:48.880
Just because I don't know how it is.

01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.599
I'm not saying because of that I didn't enjoy the film.

01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:54.800
But then you're spreader bar.

01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:55.119
Yeah.

01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:56.960
Would you rather have your ankles or your legs?

01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:57.840
Ankles.

01:07:58.559 --> 01:07:59.119
That was very quick.

01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:00.880
And let's together.

01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:02.239
Are you on the full frame?

01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:02.559
Yeah.

01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:02.880
Yeah.

01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:03.199
Okay.

01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:04.079
An X frame.

01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:04.320
Yeah.

01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:04.639
Exactly.

01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:06.800
Imagine so.

01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:09.360
So I've heard.

01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:14.320
I won't ask you the same question, but uh is a big thing in your house?

01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:15.360
BDSM?

01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:17.680
Just a kind of his dad's round.

01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:17.920
Yeah.

01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:18.239
Right.

01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:18.640
Yeah.

01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:19.600
Fair enough.

01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:21.279
Yeah.

01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:22.000
Okay.

01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:28.319
So it sounds like a a strong recommend, at least from two-thirds of the bad dads.

01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:30.000
It's still a strong recommendation.

01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:31.279
Yeah, yeah.

01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:31.920
I enjoyed it, yeah.

01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:33.439
It's still a strong recommend.

01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:36.399
Uh i if it would have been a bit shorter, it would have been even better.

01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:37.439
It's 151.

01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:39.359
Let's say you take out ten minutes for the credits.

01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:39.760
Okay.

01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:41.039
And a little bit of start.

01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:42.479
So we could you could probably say it's one fifty.

01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.520
Could we could we tell Chris he is gonna enjoy it?

01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:46.640
Yeah, you are gonna enjoy it.

01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:47.520
You are gonna enjoy it, Chris.

01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:48.800
Put your hands on that chair.

01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:51.520
And spread them wide.

01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:53.199
Yeah, strong recommend.

01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:54.159
Strong.

01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:01.039
Back to normal programming.

01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:02.560
Programming.

01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:03.359
Programming.

01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:04.239
For next week?

01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:06.319
Someone's nom's Riggs, maybe?

01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:12.319
Must be one of the Dan or Riggs, I think it's mine.

01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.560
I think I did the week or two before.

01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:15.600
I think it's Riggs.

01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:16.159
I think it's Rigs.

01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:16.720
I did Gardner.

01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:18.239
So that was me.

01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:19.039
You did this.

01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:19.920
It's Cy.

01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:21.439
And it's you, Simon.

01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:21.920
Yay.

01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:23.920
Okay, Cy to Nom for next week.

01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:24.640
Wow.

01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:24.960
Okay.

01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:27.199
Which horror fest are we gonna be putting on?

01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:28.800
We haven't had a horror movie for a little while.

01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:29.600
We don't need one.

01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:31.119
I'm still getting over the last one.

01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.680
We haven't done like old Kung Fu movies and stuff either.

01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:36.640
We haven't done any Chuck Norris May Rest in Peace.

01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:37.119
Yeah, yeah.

01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:38.079
Rest in power.

01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:39.119
Yeah.

01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:39.359
Yeah.

01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:39.600
Yeah.

01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:41.920
All that remains is to say Siddy signing out.

01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:42.960
Laraver.

01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:43.760
Sorry.

01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:44.880
Sorry.

01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:47.760
Dan's gone.

01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:48.560
Yeah.

01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:49.119
Yeah.

01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:50.079
Sorry.