Diseases & Song Sung Blue

Song Sung Blue

Cris: Ooh. Fuck

Reegs: Ooh.

Sidey: Fucking Oh yeah, I need to say-

Cris: it. Right, are We recording. Are we live?

Reegs: We are. Are

Cris: we doing, Nate? Well, we're talking about films.

Sidey: No, we're gonna, we're gonna do the, just the main act, Tommy.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: All right. Well, we got an intro then.

Dan: I can never join my, my mini Mac, and I need it for the top five. I think I might be blocked out 'cause one of you guff- McGuffins is, is

Reegs: is

Sidey: What do you mean? ... is more

Dan: than me.

Sidey: Too many internets? I don't know. It's

Dan: I don't know. It's nev- it's never done it before. Well, it has done it before, but,

Reegs: when we're here

Dan: when you're here, yeah. I'll see if I can

Reegs: If it helps, both my phone and iPad are connected to

Sidey: Same here ...

Reegs: Okay. So,

Dan: I ... so,

Sidey: I can go get another device if you

Reegs: if you like ... my- Yeah.

Sidey: you bring- ... you get both of them My, both my butt

Cris: plug and my phone are connected to the internet as well.

Dan: You've got butt plugs, you've got butt plugs, and you, you're a double butt plug. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, okay. Yeah, I think I haven't got much of pack. I haven't got much of a top five to share without without internet.

Sidey: Just fix it, I guess.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: There's no rush

Dan: to, go in.

Reegs: Gotta be in it to win it. Have you tried rerouting the encryptions?

Dan: don't know what

Cris: means. Yeah, I don't know

Sidey: Talk to the

Dan: should,

Sidey: Cracking bros get on board. Da, da, da, da. We're gonna ride- Oh, yeah ... the rain. No place to go. Yeah, this ain't working. This ain't working. No ... forever in blue jeans.

Dan: join this

Sidey: Forever in blue

Cris: you ...have to say, though, how good is Neil

Sidey: Diamond? Oh, legend. Br- brilliant, isn't he? Yeah. tops. He had a huge Jaguar around his gaff, didn't he? Yeah. For karaoke. Yeah. Let's, No, I can't, I can't

Dan: Let's, I can't, I can't get on, so I'll just have to make the top five up as, as I go along. Okay. Okay.

Reegs: Okay. Okay.

Sidey: at

Dan: but everybody else is connected to the internet.

Reegs: the internet. Yeah. Two, I've got

Sidey: two- Tw- twice, yeah, multiple times ... two Wi-Fis. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: And Chris's butt plug.

Cris: Yeah. It's still vibrating,

Dan: Okay, nice.

Sidey: as

Cris: as it's connected. Just

Dan: connected. Just getting paid.

Reegs: Shall I go? Welcome to Bad Dads Film Review, the podcast that is to cinematic discourse as rodent feces is to the captain's table. This week Dan's in charge, and he's brought the top five diseases with him, which is either inspired topicality or just an accurate description of what he brings to every recording. Strictly speaking, of course, hantavirus is a virus than a disease, but I'm sure the three people who died this week probably don't care about the

Sidey: about the nomenclature. I haven't really made that distinction when we get to the... Me

Reegs: we get to the- Me neither, no. It's all right, 'cause virogens are just micropathogens, aren't they?Sidey: Yeah

Reegs: diseases are essentially the symptoms

Sidey: stuff, Right. Okay.

Reegs: so. Right. Anyway, we'll be going more viral than a Wuhan wet market and spreading ourselves more aggressively than your sister. Our main feature is director Craig Brewer's Song Sung Blue, starring Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson in the true story of Mike and Claire Sardina, a Wisconsin couple who built their entire lives around a Neil Diamond tribute act, and were rewarded with an amputated leg, several concealed heart attacks, and a death in a car park minutes before meeting your hero. It's a story so moving it almost makes you forgive the music. Common symptoms of listening to this podcast include strong language, spoilers, mild confusion, and a sensation a bit like the specific discomfort of being introdu- introduced to someone you've already met. Listeners are advised to seek immediate help, though exposure at this point should be considered unavoidable, and the prognosis is poor. Before we go any further, let's meet this week's hosts, all of whom should probably be isolated from the general public, starting with Dan. So old, he remembers when heroin, heroin was the responsible thing to give a child with a cough, and considers the current approach overly

Dan: Yeah. Yeah, it's true.

Reegs: Whatever fucks he once had have long since been absorbed back into the universe, where they continue to mean nothing. Yeah ...

Dan: on.

Reegs: Next up, feverish Chris, a man whose cheekbones belong on a billboard but whose film taste belongs in a skip. Unless someone is bleeding out of at least two orifices by the halfway point, Chris approaches watching films with the grim stoicism of someone who's been told the results are back and they're not good. And no stranger to close contact transmissions, in third place, the man who didn't need a global healthcare emergency to start wearing rubber from head to toe, it's Sidey. Hello.

Sidey: Sidey. Hello.

Reegs: And then there's me, Riggs. Hello.

Cris: Hello.

Dan: Hi,

Reegs: Hi, Daniel. Hi, Danny.

Dan: Hi.

Sidey: Straight into a walking football update for everyone.

Dan: Well, I think that's why people are tuning

Sidey: in- Yeah

Dan: week because they will know that it was a, a huge walking week in the walking football world, and there was a cup final- Yeah ... against two very, very good teams. But there could only be one, as the Highlander once said. Yeah. And- Who was that? Who was that? Who was that? It was, Well, it was a tough game. It was played away from the usual fortress of football, Springfield.

Sidey: Yeah, away from that.

Dan: at Hope Valley.

Reegs: The altitude's a bit

Sidey: altitude- Yeah. Yeah, it is

Dan: different. We

Cris: It's like Mexico. It's like in Bolivia when

Reegs: like that. Yeah, La Paz or

Dan: La Paz. La P- exactly. And it was... Yeah, a big crowd came out- Yeah ... to watch. I mean, I think that's why they moved it there, just 'cause- Yeah ... it's got-

Sidey: stand wasn't big enough at Springfield. You had

Dan: It's got a bigger, bigger watching area, viewing platform. And unfortunately the, the, the teams that, that played, Well, unfortunately for them, 'cause we won. Yay. Yeah. 4-1.

Sidey: more unfortunate that

Cris: refuses to get a hat-trick. He keeps scoring two- Yeah ... and just refuses to-

Dan: happy with two. You

Cris: He just refuses to, to kill them off with a

Dan: He has

Reegs: always liked braces,

Dan: Yeah, that's it. I've been to the dentist again.

Sidey: again.

Cris: Knee braces.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: all, sorts of braces.

Dan: Leg braces. Yeah, like Forrest Gump, that was it when... A young Forrest, he's got those leg braces. That was like a few of us walking around. And then we went on to celebrate, which

Sidey: Yeah. Went out. It was a long, old day when it really We

Reegs: You... The pair of you are looking a little bit green tonight- Well,

Dan: I don't think yous

Reegs: opened a bottle of wine or

Sidey: anything. No. We've

Dan: the, No, I think probably- We

Sidey: about a million beers yesterday. Yeah. And a lot of wine. Yeah. So there's no need for any more today.

Dan: and then we woke up with bad necks because of carrying these big heavy medals- Yeah around with us all night. And the... Our sides have hurt a little bit from lifting the trophy. Yeah. But other than that, we're we're all thoroughly delighted and pleased with ourselves.

Sidey: Mm.

Reegs: So the final score was? 4-1. 4-1. 4-1.

Dan: 4-1. 4-1. And that will be likely our last game of the season, although the season could have another twist, plot, plot

Reegs: So where will that leave you then, finishing in the league?

Sidey: Second.

Dan: Second as it stands at the moment, but the... Well, no, we're equal first at the moment,

Sidey: Yeah, they-

Dan: got a game in hand. They've got to play against the team that we beat in the cup final. So, it's... It still could be a... Yeah, could be a twist plot

Cris: Because if they lose, the, the teams that's first, it could be down to

Sidey: playoff. Oh, go to playoff, yeah. Go to a playoff. Well, basically another final. It'll be

Cris: if it's level of

Sidey: What if we could- ... level of points ... we could transfer Jock to Trinity for a

Reegs: Yeah. He can just be their keeper. Just

Sidey: their... Trinity's weak spot- Weak spot ... is their keeper. Yeah.

Dan: any... Their, their keeper was their, the weak spot really, wasn't it, for them? But, but we won, they didn't, and we defended the, the trophy that we

Sidey: back to- we've held onto ... we've gone back to

Dan: So back to back. Don't think it's ever been done before

Sidey: before. No, never. Yeah. Did Chris, did you watch anything this week?

Cris: I watched the first episode of the Ronaldinho-

Sidey: Oh, right. Yeah, yeah ...

Cris: thing on Netflix. Yeah. It's all in Portuguese. few-

Sidey: Play foreigners

Cris: few bits in Spanish. Messi talks about him, Edmilson, Cafu Felipe Scolari,

Sidey: all

Cris: greats. R- Ronaldo all of... Neymar. Everyone is Ronaldinho, the best I've ever seen is... And I've only seen the first bit. He- it's actually a really cool story because I knew his brother used to play and his brother was the the first one really, and that was his kind of person looking up to. But I didn't know how good his brother actually

Sidey: was. He

Dan: He played for Brazil as well,

Sidey: he?

Cris: Yeah, that's the thing where I, I didn't know that. I just- Ronaldinho's brother? Yeah. Assis. Yeah.

Reegs: was his name?

Cris: Assis. 'Cause that's why Ronaldo is, Ronaldinho's name is Ronaldo de Assis Moreira. Oh, right. And his brother was Assis, and he got nicknamed Ronaldinho Gaúcho by the Brazilians in the Copa America. Yeah. 'Cause Gaúchos are the region in where he's from, from Rio Grande do Sul. But it's good. It's, it's good, and it's, it just shows him smiling and laughing and that. Then it d- at the beginning, it kinda gives you a bit of a, like a montage of what's gonna happen in the three episodes, and they do bring up the fact that he went to prison.

Sidey: There's some weird stuff with passports, didn't he? Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: then, and his brother takes the, the, the blame for that. He's like, "It's all my fault."

Dan: His brother became his manager, I think-

Cris: Yes.

Dan: that point as well, didn't he? But yeah, it was something to do with, with passports and he's trying to pretend he's someone else with, like, a Uruguayan. They're looking at him going-

Sidey: Uruguayan. They're looking at him like- Ronaldinho Ronaldinho. You know, it's like- Global, like superstar ... in South

Cris: it's not... Imagine-

Sidey: yeah ... you could have gone to- Yeah

Cris: I don't know, you would think maybe to go to Myanmar or he'd go to

Reegs: It's be like, it'd be like being Beckham in

Sidey: Exactly

Dan: or

Reegs: In America,

Cris: South America. It's like w- everyone will know who you are. Yeah. You're, you're one of the biggest players to ever come from South America. But yeah, so I've see... I've watched that. I've not watched anything

Reegs: Wasn't he a bit taxi, taxi, taxi as well? Didn't he get done for tax, Ronaldinho?

Cris: Ronaldinho? One way or another, I think. But there is a really good scene in when they do a photo with him and Ballon d'Ors and trophies, like individual trophies, and there's six of them. And it's, like, him and the those. He's like, "I prefer that photo with the bums, with the..." You know, the famous photo of him and the girls in the

Sidey: pool- Yeah Yeah

Cris: with the, with the bums out and he's like, "I prefer the ones with the girls than this." Yeah. So- He's

Dan: Yeah. He's he was a bit of a, a wild one. I don't know. Around the tax, I think there was a lot of Spanish footballers- Yeah ... footballers that played in Spain- That got done ... that, that got done with the tax- At the time, yeah because they were badly managed or advised or whatever and,

Cris: Well, even Messi, even Ronaldo, they all had settlement cases- Yeah ... with the Spanish government because the same, they kinda had that, they all thought, "Ah, this is the loop.

Dan: But it wasn't. They closed it. That the accountants

Cris: on it," and whatever. I don't think- At that level, I don't think they personally, football players, they don't know anything about tax. Yeah. They hire someone, and they do it for them, right? That's just how it works But yeah, I've all watched that. I didn't have any ti- any, any time for anything else. I've been working, and I've been at a party on Saturday night, so

Dan: Today you are, yeah that's

Cris: me. And I... The biggest party I've been to, obviously, was the walking football final. I didn't go to the actual

Reegs: bigger than that

Cris: I just went to the game, and then went to the pub after, and then Sally dropped me home, and that was good enough for

Dan: for me. Well,

Cris: did you watch anything, Daniel? I

Dan: I did. I watched Project Hail Mary. Oh,

Reegs: Oh, you've seen that,

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Was it good?

Dan: And I really enjoyed it. Yeah. Of course our, our dreamboat Ryan Gosling is in it. It's

Reegs: It's all about Rocky in the book really.

Dan: It's, Yeah, well Rocky plays a big part of it. He's the alien that is named Rocky 'cause he looks like a rock. And and they end up naming the his partner I think he said, "Oh yeah, I've got, like, a partner, a, a Mrs. Rock, you know, at home." Or what do you call it? Ah, Adrian. Adrian.

Reegs: Yeah, course you do. Yeah.

Dan: And it w- it was quite funny. He wakes up on... He's a bit like Passengers in a sense that he w- he's woken up after deep sleep in space. Everybody

Reegs: quite a few spoilers here, so there might be people ... 'Cause

Dan: Yeah ... what you're about to

Reegs: say possibly ... I think,

Dan: Well, think, I, I think... Well, sod off then. They know where to go. But we w- we'll be spoiling a- another film in a little while, won't we? That we're, we're talking about. But it's you know, what, he wakes up and he's, he's gotta then navigate this, this ship and try and understand what he's doing there and where, where it's going and he, he kind of, gets these flashback moments and we go back into onto Earth where we find out Earth is, days are numbered.

Reegs: The sun is being eaten by a microscopic organism called an astrophage, something like

Dan: That's right, yeah. And it's,

Sidey: It, Oh, okay

Dan: apart from- Is it? Apart from one planet in our solar system that is not having that, so that's where he's going. He's going out to this planet. But it's, the way he gets there and obviously being so brave actually is he, like, you know, and he does all these kind of plays on, on the situation of him being out there. But he holds it together brilliantly Gosling, the film. I mean, he, he's just,

Sidey: he's just

Reegs: And it's Andy Weir, so it's all built around the sort of scientific plausibility of some of this stuff.

Dan: Yeah. So- Yeah, I g- I guess so. I mean, it didn't seem completely outlandish and ridiculous as, as it could easily do. But I think just i- Had a message of just how people can get along or should be getting along. Mm. People that are completely different or beings that are completely different and how they can work together to, to fix a situation. So probably good in these times of chaotic wars shit everywhere. Yeah. So, it was a nice message. Liked the film. Feelgood factor, high.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: Yeah.

Dan: Did you see anything, Riggs?

Reegs: No, not really. I've g- like been finishing off... I'm on the last episode of Beef, which was the series I talked about last week, the A24 one. That's really good, but no, nothing other than that this week. It's been a bit chaotic.

Sidey: Me either. Nothing at all. goodness. Yeah. Still. Bereft, yeah. Shall we, shall we talk disease?

Dan: Let's talk disease. Please.

Reegs: Don't sneeze.

Dan: Don't sneeze. No Contagion. Remember that movie?

Reegs: I do remember that movie.

Dan: That was full of disease. Obviously there was a vi- Was that a viral thing? Maybe that was a- Yeah ... and people were- And

Reegs: was literally the plot of

Sidey: The world ... COVID-19- Yeah ... wasn't it, that

Reegs: wasn't it, that we had

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Minus the fact that unfortunately, Gwyneth Paltrow didn't die in real life, did she?

Sidey: No, I did enjoy that bit in the film.

Dan: the film ... well, you- we go right to the end, and we realize how it was, it, at the end of the film, we realize how it was started, don't we? It was like a bat dropping, I think- Yeah ... that went into Some soup in China ... a, no, a

Reegs: No, it was,

Sidey: A pig ate it. A pig farm. And then they, they eat it in

Dan: So it

Sidey: Yeah, at the airport. She has sex with a man

Dan: kind of- Thing ... or, or kind of disease, isn't it? And lots of that found it... That pig found its way into a restaurant and- Yeah A

Reegs: A high-end

Dan: that, a high-end restaurant. And then the disease just sort of, sort of passed through, but it came from bats

Sidey: Not rats It

Reegs: it was 2012 that Steven Soderbergh, they came up with this, and then obviously it was so scarily accurate really, wasn't it? Yeah. I mean, not in the scale. This one is really horrible, isn't it? People, like within a couple of hours have got like blood leaking from their eyes and stuff, which is a bit more than what

Dan: we had. A- and they found that some were immune to it, and some were able to you know, work past it, and they... It took them months, obviously, to get some kind of you know, grip of it. One of the things that they did in that was, I think you had a lottery, didn't you, with the

Reegs: Yeah. And Who

Dan: remember that. It was good. Who was gonna get the vaccine, who... And you had to watch kind of, if you were born on this day, and this day, and this day, then you were gonna get the vaccine. Otherwise... So people's families were, were split, and not everybody could- Yeah ... could make it. Yeah, it was, it was, you know, a, a movie that- Scarily accurate and for what we went through with, with COVID,

Reegs: I think, like, the spread of stuff and that, the reaction, that was all ma- that was all quite interesting. But they went very chaotic in that movie, and lots of sort of civil unrest. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Whereas

Reegs: it actually turned out we all got really bored and a bit fat and- Yeah. Watched a lot of box sets.

Sidey: spent a lot of time in the garden. Yeah. A lot of drinking. yeah. I was off the booze at a

Reegs: cutting your own hair.

Sidey: Mm. And I just let it go wild.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, I had a COVID haircut. I had a COVID cut, mate. Yeah, so, so, so some things like that were, weren't quite on point, but others, others were. And, you know, I think we, we probably got a little more comfortable again now, and they still likely... You mentioned hantavirus or whatever it is at the mo. Still likely that the thing that is gonna do most damage to the human race will be another- Human virus and a, a thing that will just cut, you know- Well- ... that could've been a test

Reegs: on that note then, Dan- Yeah ... why don't we pick "The Last of Us"? Because that's about, ooh, gosh, here we go. Ophiocordyceps unilateralis. That's a real fungus that inhabits carpenter ants and stuff. Did you see the show "The Last of Us,"

Dan: based- No ... on the video

Reegs: game? Did anybody? Was it just me?

Sidey: I've seen se- season one. I haven't seen season two yet.

Reegs: was really good. You know, had a terrific arc. A bit sort of "Walking Dead-y" but much more horrible. But then it was... What I find really chilling about it is the central idea of these fungal infections that could easily sort of take over. It could, it is a thing that could happen. Scientists are warning that that is a, you know, in the same way that a COVID, a novel coronavirus could emerge, that this kind of fungal bacteria type thing- pathogen that grows on a human, could actually happen. And in the plot of "The Last of Us," it takes down the whole world, basically.

Dan: I th- I always started to think that was like vampires or something, but obviously not. This is a completely different approach, and I dunno why I thought that about that, that particular series. So sounds okay.

Reegs: No, I think part of what's the r- interesting thing about that is that it's, 'cause at the moment, fungal things like that can't spread to humans, but they're changing because of the the changes in global temperatures and the stuff that they can absorb and what they can live on, as they get closer to being able to live

Sidey: on us. There's, there's mushrooms in, like, Chernobyl now. Now they eat- Yeah ... radiation and stuff. It's fucking mad how they-

Cris: You can get mushroom on your toes,

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, fungal

Dan: in the skin. Yeah. Yeah. yeah,

Reegs: so these k- type of cordyceps inf-

Sidey: inf-

Reegs: are gonna be particularly minging. And "The Last of Us" was good, too.

Sidey: It was really good. Okay.

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: "Grayscale"? Thrones "Game of Thrones Oh, my God Where they're getting ... They turn basically into stone. It's like a- Scary ... like a medieval- Like a disease. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a, like a really hardcore sort of psoriasis.

Reegs: Shireen Baratheon had it, the one of the Baratheon kids, didn't she? She had, and it were on her face- Yeah and she was, like, banished up to a... She was not, she was locked away. That's right. And then eventually sacrificed

Sidey: wasn't it? She, she was burnt at the stake, yeah. By her father. Yeah, it was an absolute pleaser. And

Reegs: Sadorra got it as well, did he?

Sidey: Yes, he did. And he was able to get rid of it somehow. It

Reegs: went away or

Sidey: I thought it was, you know, it was a death sentence basically if you got this. Yeah, yeah. But he was able to survive it somehow. kind of cure, yeah. They just wrote, they just wrote that into the story, that he survived it, and that's

Reegs: I'll be honest, when they started introducing that, I was like, "This is really cool. They're gonna turn him into some kind of hideous rock monster." Yeah. Which I was well up for,

Sidey: And then they just sort of, "Ah, fuck that. We can't be bothered." Yeah. So yeah, Game, Game of Thrones.

Cris: It pains me to say, but I have found a film with a virus called the Krippin Virus. It's a fictional virus like a measles virus originally designed to cure cancer in a film called I Am Legend.

Reegs: Ah, yes.

Cris: And it's ... What it does is it killed 90% of the world's population and transformed the rest of them into zombies that are called Darkseekers. I don't know if you've seen this film.

Reegs: Yeah. It's and it's based on, Was it Omega Man? Was that the other one that was- Yeah ... the Richard Matheson book that it was based on?

Cris: Yeah, it could be.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Ben empath.

Cris: it was it killed roughly 5.4 billion people- Yeah ... with 588 million transforming into creatures.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: And a small percentage of humans are immune, including the main character.

Reegs: Will Smith.

Cris: It's I would prefer to call him Robert Neville. Because That's

Sidey: Gerry's brother. ...uncle. Uncle,

Reegs: Uncle, yeah. It's his

Sidey: uncle. Yeah.

Reegs: I remember them. He's on a aircraft carrier. I can't remember which one, but he's just twatting golf balls into the, Yeah ... into the skyline.

Cris: Yeah, in the original book, the infection was caused by a plague bacteria, but associated with a vampire rather than a mutated virus. But that's,

Reegs: In the film, there's a deleted alternate

Sidey: ending- I watched that the other day for some

Reegs: Oh, r- really?

Sidey: popped up on my

Reegs: my, In which c- in which it makes out that he's the bad

Sidey: guy. He's, he's to blame, and it, the ... One of them comes in and shouts at him. Yeah And takes away, like, a dead- yeah. Basically his soon-to-be wife. Ah. And it's, like, appalling CGI. It's, like, really- Yeah ... well, obviously 'cause it didn't make the final cut, I suppose it didn't, but it was bad anyway in the film.

Reegs: film. Yeah. People say that ending's a lot better, but it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, really, from what we've seen of two hours of running away from these things while they try and kill him.

Sidey: No. This does not make a good film, I don't think.

Reegs: Yeah. But it also had a sign-up for Batman versus Superman, and people got fucking re- well excited, 'cause this was back in 2007, way before any of that stuff- Yeah ever happened. But,

Cris: yeah. Oh, I just remember that, and I thought that would be a good one

Sidey: to- Yeah

Reegs: It's easy ...disease I think the end even is near a lab, isn't it? Is it a lab,

Sidey: Is in a lab, yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He blows it up.

Dan: Leaving Las Vegas, Nick Cage.

Reegs: Oh, alcoholism's a disease there. Yeah. Actually, your wife accused you of being an alcoholic when you weren't here before, by the way.

Dan: here before? Well, she does it when I am here as well. It is, Yeah and i- it's got a good grip of Nick Cage in this, who goes to Las Vegas meets Elizabeth Shue along the way, doesn't he? Who's working as a, as a hooker. And he wants to drink himself to death because of, I think, l- l- loss of his family in a traffic accident or something- Yes ... a li- a little while. And he, he'd been, prior to that, quite a successful businessman or, or salesman. But then he'd

Sidey: "Death of a Salesman."

Dan: yeah, lost his, his will to live really. Even though Elizabeth Shue and he get close and i- he's got absolutely no intention of of living, and drinks himself to death.

Reegs: Very sad, that

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Won him an Oscar, I think, though, didn't

Reegs: You're right. Elisabeth

Sidey: hated, I hated, hated, hated that film.

Dan: Yeah, I went to the cinema to watch

Sidey: it. Really?

Dan: And I came out not particularly impressed, but I've since watched it again and enjoyed it a lot more.

Reegs: you're in the right mood, but it's- Yeah not exactly a laugh,

Dan: laugh, right? No, it wasn't. just a laugh. Why? No. For

Reegs: drink themselves

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Couldn't really get, get my head around it.

Reegs: I didn't really get, around it. Red Dwarf. Yeah. Quaran- Quarantine was the episode. It's where they meet Dr. Lanstrom, who's contracted a holo virus. And this is something they introduce that Rimmer then picks up, and he puts the rest of the crew in quarantine, if you remember. Do you remember this one? He ends up wearing a gingham dress, a bonnet- ... and he's got this, like, penguin hand puppet that he calls Mr. Flibble. A- and,

Dan: it's not where they have to drink the luck serum, is it? That's exactly the

Reegs: exactly the one, yes.

Sidey: And he's got, and he's got to

Dan: i- i- he's got to do this combination of, like-

Reegs: They've got luck- luck, joy, yeah ... joy, and sexual magnetism yeah.

Dan: He, he goes, It was really just genius 'cause it's all done on such a budget, you know, Re- Red Dwarf.

Reegs: They're like, "Oh, we can't get through this door. I don't know the code." Yeah. And he just drinks the serum, and he's like, "Di-di-di-di-di." Oh, that was lucky. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. But yeah, quite good. And also a bit of a thing about how your emotions are contagious, which is quite an interesting thing to be delivered via a a hand puppet hologram.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: Wizard flu. It's not actually, it's called dragon pox.

Reegs: Is this some kind of Potter thing? I

Sidey: It is Potter, yeah. Yeah. I, I see, I've only- I haven't read the text. I've only watched the movies, and you don't actually see it in... You don't actually ever see anyone with it in-

Reegs: Can you only get it if you're a wizard?

Sidey: I think so. I think that's how it works. But I don't know if in the, in the books the, the people actually get it, 'cause they don't even... They talk about it, but you don't actually see anyone, so that makes it a bit shit really. What about the T-virus? From both movie- 2000

Reegs: Later, is that or?

Sidey: and video game. T-virus. What's Evil. Yeah. Yes. Again, it's just lots of mutations and, Yeah ... stuff like that. I remember playing the first one, you know, and you were, like, walking down corridors, and you're just waiting for something to fucking jump out, and it's probably, like first time I played a video game it was actually, like, really, you know, atmospheric- Yeah and intense, like, like a movie, you

Dan: yeah, lights are off.

Sidey: really feeling it, you know, so that was good.

Reegs: With jump scares and whatnot in

Sidey: it. I haven't seen any of the movies. They always seemed really shit to me. None of the Resident Evil movies. Yeah.

Reegs: think I've seen most of them.

Sidey: I've

Cris: seen quite a few of them.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Milla Jovovich. Yes. Yes.

Reegs: she gives it her all, you know. She's not fucking about. Yeah. Like, she earns

Sidey: her- She's committed to it ... paycheck. Yeah.

Reegs: So there, there are definitely varying

Cris: that look, though, that's, like, quite, I don't know, like, strange looking,

Reegs: The thing I always think that's mad is that it's her husband who makes the movies. They've made, like, eight of these movies or whatever it is. He just likes dressing her up in leather and watching her kick people's ass all day, filming it. They both get paid a fortune and go back and start again. sound like a bad life.

Cris: No.

Sidey: seem like a bad life. No. So, yeah, but that was virus, wasn't it? Yeah,

Cris: Yeah. Well, I th- found a virus that creates these zombie kinda creatures. It's a film called Rampant. It's a South Korean I wouldn't be able to tell you how it sounds in Korean, so don't make me do that. But i- it's kinda like a ... It's a historic horror, which quite strange- in a way. Right. But i- it's, the plague is kind of brought in by, by the Dutch pilots or whatever, merchant vessels. And the infected ones have ... They become aggressive and bloodthirsty, then they die, and then reborn as flesh-eating monsters, and the only way to kill them is to break their neck, break their spine, or pierce their heart. And it's a-

Reegs: Piers Morgan's the same, isn't

Cris: isn't he? It's a ... Pardon?

Reegs: That's the only way to kill him.

Dan: him.

Cris: Who? Pierce Morgan?

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: I, I, yeah, I, I, I've not, not tried, but it, it's like, it's got the minister of war is let's kill all of them. The prince, who, which is Yeong-bing or something like that,

Sidey: He

Cris: says, "No, we need to make them and turn them into an army," and all that. And

Reegs: All right

Cris: Yeah ... it's quite, quite interesting. I do like South Korean films

Sidey: and-

Cris: Yeah ... I don't know why I watched this, to be fair, because it didn't really ... But it said hi- history, action- horror, so I thought, fine

Reegs: Is that a Netflix joint?

Cris: I can't remember where I've seen it. But it's from 2018. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: So that.

Reegs: of that one.

Cris: that one. Oh, yeah.

Dan: that one. Yeah. Not heard of that one. One you probably have heard of is Papillon, and the movie-

Cris: It means butterfly

Dan: Ooh, it does mean butterfly, and it was obviously a... based on the the book by Henri Charriere, I think his name was. I might have got that wrong. But the true story of a guy who was sent from France to the, the colonies, the penal colonies in French Guiana. And how he had to kind of escape, and he did too. A few times he escaped, and one of the times he escaped, he escaped to the, the lepers' colony. And leprosy was was rife and they obviously didn't wanna go there because it could be passed on and, and things. And he sits and eats with them drinks with them, and at one point they, they give him a cigar, the, the head kind of leper, and he takes it and he s- he smokes it. And he goes, "Yeah, okay, we'll help you." "How did you know that you know, I have dry leprosy, like it can't be passed on?" He goes, "I And it, it was like, you know, he's just a man at the end of his, his tether, and it, it's... Or, you know, just that is the last- He didn't have any- ... bit of luck. He didn't... No, he didn't have any, any other pages to turn. That was it. So, I've read the books as well, which are fantastic. They did a new Papillon film. Yeah. A little... Which wasn't too bad, actually. I went in with quite low- Channing Tatum was it? Yeah. I went in with quite low Expectations ... to, to feel that this was gonna be anywhere near as good. You shouldn't mess with, you know, the, the original really, which was McQueen and Dustin Hoffman who were amazing, and it was just like, what a fantastic film that is. You've obviously seen the, the original Papillon. Yeah. Yeah. But the, the next one wasn't too bad, the one with, the, the newer one. it-

Reegs: I don't remember it all that

Dan: different

Cris: watched both of them, and to be fair, the new one is fairly good as well. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: So it, it kind of

Cris: like them both.

Dan: both. Maybe we could do a Papillon week and compare them, but, Yeah ... it was a butterfly week, yeah. But that was the, the dry leprosy and the leprosy.

Reegs: A bit of wet leprosy,

Dan: Yeah, I know you do. I know you do. You and your butt lick cigars that you can- Yeah ... really get a good dose of leprosy

Sidey: cigar. Don't go

Reegs: least don't go in my mouth would you like a few disease-y films? Yeah, sure. Actors and stuff? Athlete's Footloose Herpes Fully Loaded Oh, yeah ... The Gangrene Mile The Gout, the Bad and the Ugly, Gonorrhea with the Wind Crohn's Alone, and that's obviously starring Catherine Hepburn and Sigourney Fever, with music by Johnny Rash, Iggy- Iggy Pox Little Rickets, and Fleetwood

Sidey: Flak. Very good. so

Reegs: The Simpsons, they like a, a virus or a disease or something. Osaka Flu-

Sidey: Oh, yeah ...

Reegs: that they had was

Sidey: coughed into a box. Yeah

Reegs: into a box, yeah, and sends it to them. Homer fakes a disability, I suppose, but,

Sidey: Hyper obesity

Reegs: Lumber lung he says. Juggler's despair- ... and achy breaky pelvis. And Mr. Burns, of course, is diagnosed with every disease and illness that there is known to man simultaneously. The sort of diseases blocking each other so that he can stay alive. Good old Simmy Simpsons. And then I've just got my nom after that, I think.

Sidey: I think. Can we have lycanthropy?

Reegs: Yeah. It's turning into a werewolf. Yeah.

Sidey: There's more of that in the the Harry Potter world. But of course, American Werewolf in London, and they try and treat it like an infectious disease in that. Mm. Mm.

Reegs: But it's inspired by stories of rabies really, isn't it,

Sidey: it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah.

Cris: of rabies in a while, but I, what I have heard of, it's another Asian film, because you know how I love the Asians. Too bad Pete's

Sidey: not here. Oh, yeah, I was gonna say.

Cris: It's a film f- which you would probably know. I don't- don't ask me how I found this film because I don't wanna tell you.

Sidey: you.

Dan: Okay.

Cris: it refers to a pandemic caused by the Alvin virus.

Reegs: Oh, it turns you into a chipmunk.

Cris: No. The virus is a mutation of a flu-like virus that affects the brain, causing extreme aggression rather than mindless zombification. And the film is a Taiwanese 2021 film called The Sadness.

Reegs: No, I've not seen it. It's been on my list before, that one, but, Right. Okay ... yeah, I've not seen it.

Cris: the movie was inspired by COVID-19 and- Yeah ... you know, obviously they ate a bat in Taiwan one day and they thought, "Right, let's see what we're gonna deal here with." Yeah. But yeah. They do have in in this film depression and clinical depression, persistent depressive disorder, PDD, and something called seasonal affective disorder. Mm.

Dan: SAD. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: That's a well-known one. Yeah, you c- some people sit next to SAD lamps in the in the winter months to give themselves a bit more UV Make themselves feel more normal

Cris: Okay. After this I'll have my nom. But this is actually... This was actually surprisingly good, to be fair, because it's quite angry. It's a, it's a Angry film

Reegs: The Sadness? Yeah. Sounds more sad than angry. it's actually

Cris: angry, but- Yeah ... well, I don't know. I think this is a translation. The, the original n- name I would imagine is in, in Taiwanese or, or Mandarin or whatever, so I couldn't really tell you

Reegs: Well, next week, learn it.

Cris: Yes. Thank you. I, I shall.

Sidey: Good.

Dan: Well, I don't know if the next two I've got really fit the, the description. One of them I guess does. Alien, when they've kind of got an illness. I don't re- Oh,

Reegs: throat with the... Eh, I

Cris: an alien? Just like being an alien

Dan: or an infestation? I suppose it's, it's kinda like that. It's a- Parasite ...

Sidey: or

Cris: being impregnated with it. Is that like a-

Reegs: know.

Cris: I don't

Dan: I don't know. So yeah, it might, it might fit the the, the description. But the other one that I thought of was the, the film Nos- Nostradamus and it's in and around the plague as well- Oh ... around those times. And they wear those kind of masks. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Scary masks. That, ... They're really, really kinda scary. So that's my nom Nostradamus. The long beaky things- The- The long beaky thing ... birds and that. Yeah And they used to... That would be the the doctors effect, but they would all go round in that, and then,

Cris: It's called a plague

Sidey: mask. That thing's

Dan: it really

Cris: It is called a plague mask

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: So there it is. Is

Reegs: that your nom?

Dan: my nom.

Reegs: I am going to nominate Sarah Colwell, who was the subject of a documentary that I watched back in about 2013. She had something called foreign accent syndrome. You ever heard of this? Yes.

Cris: I've heard of

Reegs: it. It affects a very small number of people. Like, it says it here less than 100 in the world, but I'm not

Sidey: Is

Cris: that woman that started speaking Chinese? Like, with a Chinese accent Well, she

Reegs: speaking with a Chinese accent. They wake up one day after... Sometimes they have a stroke or... This woman, she had a migraine, and then the next day she woke up, and it sounds like she's sort of taking the piss, she

Cris: that on

Reegs: it. I've seen that on the- Wow ... on the

Sidey: Really? Yeah. So like a, like a Tourette's almost.

Reegs: a recognized thing. Well, but it seems to have some physio- Look, I don't know. Yes. Okay. Maybe Tourette's-like. I'm not sure, but- Because

Sidey: she

Cris: the BBC or someone, like the news people, showing up to her house. And sh- this was a woman in her fift- like 50, 60s, and they Then she started speaking English, but with a Chinese accent, and she would ask people-

Reegs: exactly. That

Cris: you like a cup of tea?" And da, da, da. And people were like,

Reegs: But the thing is- ... "Is this woman okay?" ... I mean, of course, like, you know- all that happens is, is that people think she's taking the

Sidey: piss- Yeah ... and

Reegs: Yeah ... and she's getting abused a lot- Yeah ... and it's, like, destroying her life. And you know, you can't help that it's deeply funny as well. But-

Dan: the, there's... One of those just reminded me of when they can't see sunlight, you know? Have you had those? And they- They, they, they can't- What,

Cris: Well, they're blind like Stevie Wonder

Dan: they'll burn, like their skin or they'll just- Oh, yeah you know, it just

Reegs: Or like a bubble boy

Dan: and they have to just stay... Yeah. You know, I watched a documentary on this- Yeah, imagine being in a bubble ... on this, on this lady, and she just couldn't have any

Cris: What, like the ginger people?

Sidey: But

Dan: even worse though, like, you know,

Cris: they- Really? Is there anyone worse

Sidey: the gingers?

Reegs: the origin of stuff like vampirism and stuff, where people can't go in direct

Dan: sunlight. Well, I think that's how, yeah, it starts vam- to be a vampire, doesn't it?

Reegs: isn't it?

Cris: Being ginger. Right.

Sidey: ginger.

Dan: Mm. Yeah.

Reegs: So foreign accent syndrome.

Sidey: Nice. My nom is simian flu.

Reegs: Yeah, from

Sidey: of the Apes. Yeah. It's the Genesis lab created,

Reegs: they were trying to cure Alzheimer's, weren't they? They're always trying to cure

Sidey: Yeah, it was a brain thing. Yeah, and, and it, it didn't work, and it went and destroyed 99% of the Earth's population and, like gave intelligence to, you know, to the apes. To

Cris: to

Dan: think

Reegs: fair, they made a better job of it than we did,

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: I th- I think they were trying to cure Alzheimer's in the, the shark one as well, weren't

Reegs: that's what I was just thinking, like- Yeah, Deep Blue ... to get the d- yeah, get the sharks from Deep Blue Sea to fight the monkeys from Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Winnow, c- cures Alzheimer's.

Sidey: Yeah. So there you go. Yeah, that's it, simian flu. We need one more. Just need one more.

Dan: Do we have

Sidey: Did you nom? Not yet. Oh, okay. I can shut up now.

Reegs: No, we need one more from in

Sidey: shut up in a minute. We

Dan: that to you last week. It's all right.

Cris: all right. It's getting used to it now. To be fair, it doesn't really make much sense what I'm saying, but generally. But I have my gnome is epidermolysis bullosa. Okay. Epidermolysis bullosa, EB, often called butterfly disease. Oh, yeah. Speaking of butterflies. Lovely that. It's a group of rare genetic conditions causing extremely fragile skin that blisters from minor friction or trauma, similar to a butterfly's

Reegs: Oh.

Cris: Oh. And its key aspects is fragility. Like, it's inherited disease resulting from mutation in genes, and the skin basically doesn't produce

Reegs: So what, is this just your favorite disease now? It's- Or is it tied to some sort of movie? Or is

Cris: tied to the movie. Okay. But this is the disease. But then they call it- Oh, yeah ... in The Butterfly Effect, the film-

Sidey: Ah ... because

Cris: this is a similar condition to what his brain started

Reegs: goes in time, goes back in time. Yes.

Cris: Yeah, but

Sidey: this- With, with this disease ... is the

Cris: that would be associated- Oh, I see ... to a film like The Butterfly Effect, which that's what they call it. But this is the condition for which the movie was initially associated with.

Reegs: I, d- I don't really understand any of that, but what- The Butterfly Effect was based on a-

Cris: On a butterfly disease.

Reegs: Wow. There you go.

Sidey: I've not seen it. All Have you-

Reegs: Ashton Kutcher goes back in time, I think strangles himself with an his own umbilical

Cris: He goes quite a lot in time

Sidey: yeah.

Reegs: three movies

Sidey: I don't really like him.

Reegs: He, I think he strangles himself. In the climax of the first movie, I'm pretty sure he s- he goes back in

Sidey: There's more than one?

Reegs: to a baby and strangles himself with an umbilical

Sidey: there was only one, though.

Reegs: No, there's three Butterfly Effects. Three? Yeah, at least three. But

Cris: is it... Is he in all of them?

Reegs: Ooh,

Dan: Has he been MeToo'd? Dunno. I dunno if

Sidey: he's- No, he's he's like a VC now, isn't he? Does a lot of that. What, a toilet?

Reegs: No,

Sidey: No, a venture capitalist. He does just loads of investing Money, Yeah. That's what it's all about. Oh, does he

Cris: need more money?

Sidey: He's got- He likes big bottom lines.

Reegs: He's in the British Managers Club.

Sidey: Yeah. Is he? Yeah. So- Wow ... I'm out with Ashton Kutcher, for sure. Okay. Right. So we do need one more though, don't we?

Dan: have

Reegs: Give us your best disease.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: Oh,

Reegs: There we are, we're synced.

Sidey: Syncopated rhythms. Song Sung Blue. Yeah.

Dan: This was a movie my sister actually told me about that she really enjoyed. And she likes music films and, and I don't think she's particularly huge fan of Neil Diamond, but had suggested this might be a, a good one for me to watch. And then when I saw it come up on Prime, which is where I rented it from, I thought, "Well, why not?" It's been a while since we've done a musical biopic kind of- Yeah thingy film. And and Hugh Jackman in it. Actually, you know, as we're, as we'll go on and discuss, he's... He does a good impression of, Of Neil

Sidey: Oh, a guy doing an impression. Oh.

Dan: just as well, because that's what this film's about. Not impression,

Reegs: an interpretation.

Dan: Thank you. Thank you for the correction. Yeah,

Reegs: but I think he sounds quite a lot like him when he sings,

Dan: He's really good, yeah

Reegs: a... He was on Broadway, was he, Jack- Huge Jackman? Yeah. Yeah, he's done all

Sidey: of- He can, he can... Well, he sang at a MAGA event, didn't he? Did he? Yeah.

Reegs: Oh, right. I didn't realize that. And obviously- He's Australian, but he's

Sidey: but he's paid to fucking sing. Just chill, chill

Reegs: Shill for Trump. But obviously he's done musicals in the past with The Greatest Showman, Les

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Some others as well. But for me, Kate Hudson was as well,

Dan: so- And, and she was, yeah. And the... It's based on a true story.

Reegs: Yes. A really unlikely true story of a Milwaukee couple, this Mike and Claire Sardinia, Sardina, that performed as Light- Lightning and Thunder- Yeah ... a Neil Diamond tribute act. It maybe should never have been anything more than, like, a local- Yeah ... thing, but it became unexpectedly huge-

Sidey: bigger than that. And some

Reegs: And then the backdrop to it was this crazy story of their turbulent private life.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. And you say like, we were, we're going to it, they end up opening up for Pearl Jam at one point- Yeah ... who also

Reegs: Vedder. It makes- Yeah ... makes a big you know, part of their lives really

Dan: And he also says, "Oh," who was it? At the, the time there was Tony Bennett was opening up for- Yeah ... another big band. I can't

Sidey: it was. He says, "There's no, there's no rules to music, man." Yeah, that

Dan: Yeah, that was it. So, obviously there was that time where getting the crooners were in, and if you couldn't get the crooners, then you get the next best thing. Yeah. Being Milwaukee then Happy Days, that's where that was filmed, wasn't it? Milwaukee. Sidebar. Yeah ... but how does it start?

Sidey: It, it- It starts- With a audition

Reegs: with him at an AA meeting, isn't it?

Sidey: in a, he's in a meeting, yeah. It's just his face at first, and you can't see who he's talking to. Oh, yes.

Reegs: He's doing a recording as he does many times. In fact, I think the song is, the film is book-ended with this song, isn't it? That he plays at the AA

Sidey: song.

Reegs: Yeah. So yeah, he's 20 years sober.

Sidey: Yes. That's right. Yeah, he's cele- yeah.

Reegs: Although I have to say, time is a complete anomaly to this movie, where the children stay the same age despite 10 years passing-

Sidey: and

Reegs: all sorts of stuff, but yeah I think he's 20 years sober at this point,

Dan: I, and I'll- '87

Reegs: I, And when he's, and later in 1995, he'll be 21 years sober. So-

Dan: Had you, Was you waiting for him just to fall off the wagon the entire

Reegs: Yeah. and I was so glad, spoiler alert, that he doesn't. No ... he's tested many times. There are lots of things bad happen to him, but he does not, never fall off the wagon.

Dan: Yeah. And i- there's that one time about halfway through the film and he, he finds a bottle, doesn't he?

Reegs: A stashed one.

Sidey: Yeah. And he just

Dan: he just looks at it kind of longingly for a sec. I thought he was gonna drink. And I thought that was it, you

Sidey: Down the sink it goes ... he

Dan: it down the sink and you just think, "Yes, well done."

Reegs: would've suited ... you just see him tipping it down the sink and you just think, "Yes." Yeah. Well done. So yeah, he plays Song Sung Blue, apparently his tradition that he does every year on the anniversary of his sobriety. Yeah. And then he goes to a kind of, it's sort of an amusement park where there's a load of impersonators there. This I really liked, all the different impersonators. You got Sex Machine, James Brown. You got Michael Imperioli as Buddy Holly. Buddy Holly, yeah. And you've got Kate Hudson as Patsy Cline.

Sidey: And the Elvis guy was funny.

Reegs: And the Elvis, he's such a bad Elvis as

Dan: Yeah. He's... They find out he's pulling

Reegs: 20 grand though, and this is 1987 for doing

Dan: To do it, and he's like, "I need to..." And it gives him that impetus then to change his act because he wants to be known as Lightning, and they were asking him to do some other impersonation of Of someone

Reegs: Don Ho.

Dan: Don Ho, and he just won't do it. He just goes, "No, no, it's not." And, and everybody then have to change the, the setup of the songs and things, and he's, he's really kind of put the promoter in it a little bit with that last-minute decision. But he stays around long enough to listen to Kate Hudson's Patsy Cline, and there's a, a few sparks that seem to fly for him there, and he thinks, "Wow," you know, "She's, great." And I think she looks at him, and he says it's his birthday, doesn't

Sidey: he? Yeah, he doesn't tell her. "Oh, my

Dan: But it's not actually my birthday." And she goes, "Oh, okay then."

Reegs: then." Well, and also though, they have been at pains to point out that he is like ... He's pretty good. Yeah. Like, you know, he sings well, he's a good entertainer, he's passionate about his music. He's the only white guy who plays in the all-Black band- Yeah ... of The Esquires, so he must be pretty fucking good

Dan: to- Yeah ... be doing

Reegs: that. Yeah. So she ... And as we'll come to find out, you know, this i- They'll start to embark on a bit of a love affair that started through their music, isn't it? And sh- she kind of moved away from her first husband because he wasn't really supporting her in this kind of

Dan: Yeah. And he's all about, you know, the music. The

Reegs: The

Dan: all about,

Sidey: Well, At one point, he, like, at the start, he doesn't want to do Neil Diamond songs. Yeah. He, like, holds him in such high esteem. Oh, it's too much. Too much. Yeah. Can't, can't do Neil.

Dan: I'd,

Reegs: then they have like a 10 or 15-minute, like, jamming session where they start... It's really cool, actually. They bring out loads of different instruments, start to play loads of different tunes. They just jam around it, what might sound like. Her mum comes in to tell them to

Sidey: to- Yeah, shut up ... turn the music down. Yeah.

Reegs: And, and kind of the, the beginnings of Lightning and Thunder has start to

Dan: Yeah. And and he, with her support, says, you know, "I'm... I don't wanna be like a- an impersonator." And she says, "No, you're," as you said, "an interpreter." And that he, he really c- connects onto then, and- Yeah ... he begins this-

Reegs: They're building this, this stage show. Yeah. This Neil Diamond sort of homage to him, and at the same time they're becoming, like, romantically involved as well, and their families are becoming closely integrated because he has an older daughter who was about 16, I guess, and she has a, a son and another daughter as well. Yeah. Yeah. And so through them we find out some stuff like huge Jackman was a tunnel rat in

Dan: Yeah. And- Which is what led to the

Reegs: it led to the drinking. Yeah. And he, you know, he still wakes up in terror half the nights and all that sort of stuff.

Dan: It's a tough gig that. Yeah. The old tunnel rat.

Reegs: Yeah. and- they sort of get ... I quite like that scene where the two girls who are a bit standoffish, brought together only 'cause their parents are fucking.

Dan: You've arranged me a play date? Yeah. Like, you know, they can't believe it. And they

Reegs: become friends and bond a bit over the fact that their parents are a bit screwed up but still really love

Dan: Yeah. They have a, a joint, don't they, looking at the planes which they're in the flight path- Yeah ... of the house and everything. So, you get these low-flying planes just coming into land or take off which breaks up the, the, the yard's kind of silence every now and again. But they get on. Yeah, they, they enjoy each other's company, and you see throughout the film actually that they become family, these kind of- Yeah you know, otherwise forced together but actually start to, to like each other and everything.

Reegs: So the band, he's ... They start to cr- like bring in everybody that's been part of the film so far. Like, you know, the band that he was playing with in The Esquires. Michael Imperioli gives up playing Buddy Holly. He's too old to play him now. He's like 30 years older than Buddy Holly was when he died. So he comes to join the band, and they start really building this thing up, and they've got one eye on the casino gigs.

Dan: That's right, yeah ... and

Reegs: funny when they go to it. Quite unexpectedly, I didn't know he was gonna be in it, but Jim Belushi turns up-

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah ... as

Reegs: big casino guy that they've got to try and

Sidey: He

Dan: I liked him.

Sidey: Mike turns up

Reegs: basically to be a bus driver pretty much. Yeah, yeah. But he does get them gigs and stuff, doesn't he? But their first gig is a kind of disastrous- up. Yeah. There's a bunch of like-

Sidey: They want to listen to basically metal. Lynyrd Skynyrd- Yeah ... and all that. And, Yeah. And he, he f- Pink Floyd like ... he fucks it, doesn't he? 'Cause he goes, "I'm in charge of this band." Yeah. "And we're playing we're playing fucking-"

Reegs: playing "Suleiman," which is this song that he really loves, that it's a running joke in the movie that nobody can pronounce it

Dan: properly. And it's a fairly niche,

Sidey: it's not one that you'd open with- No ... to, especially to a bunch of bikers. And they-

Reegs: he's got like a leaf blower and he's

Sidey: blowing his hair. It's amazing. He's got like a, yeah, like a bright yellow satin shirt. Yeah, he looks- And it's just not the right vibe for these guys, so they immediately start throwing bottles of beer at them and-

Reegs: they say to him, "Right. Okay, you can play your Neil Diamond stuff, but definitely play "Sweet Caroline" first." It's also another running joke that they don't play it for a long time, but everybody's asking for

Sidey: it. Yeah.

Dan: Well, Neil does so much more than

Reegs: Yeah. And he gets really annoyed that Neil Diamond wouldn't do it, so, yeah. It, it devolves into a big fistfight, doesn't it?

Dan: Yeah. They have, they have a fight. I think Belushi takes one on the, the nose. And he, he's saying, "No, I, I, I've gotta be the one that drives. It's insurance purposes. Like, I, I've gotta be the one that, that drives his home still." No, I can't. And at that time he's saying, "I just want it to go well." And she said, "Well, look, I can see it's your band now and, and everything." He goes, "And then we're gonna go for a buffet, and I had set a nice place to stay, and I was gonna propose to you." And then it kinda just, you know, is taking their relationship to another level 'cause

Reegs: He sort of accidentally lets it slip, doesn't

Dan: doesn't he? Yeah. That he's

Reegs: gonna propose.

Dan: through the frustration of- Yeah ... how he wanted this evening to go and but she's like, "Yes, yes, I'll..." And the next thing we, we have the big wedding.

Reegs: And she's terrific in this movie, Kate Hudson, 'cause she's like very sexy as Patsy Cline- Yeah ... and really good as a musician. And later she's gonna have some big dramatic chops to play as well.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: yeah. Anyway, the wedding. It's a nice affair, isn't it? They all- Well,

Dan: well. the, the family all getting on. You know, there's no-

Reegs: There's music there. There's no... There's a musical number, isn't there? I can't remember what it is. I didn't write it down, but.

Dan: Yeah, no, they... I mean, Neil Diamond's obviously played throughout this this movie. And they doing really well. I mean, the band they've got behind the show, the costumes,

Reegs: It's quite a big production, isn't

Dan: a big production ... it, it is a big production. And, and they're able to,

Sidey: We start to see them on the news, don't we? They get... There's a lot of local buzz around them. Yeah. And then, like you mentioned earlier- Milwaukee's army they, they get a phone call one day, and he's like, he doesn't- It's

Reegs: It's amazing he's talking to them.

Sidey: "What? What? I don't know, anyone know a Pearl Jam or something?" Yeah. And the, the tour is like, "What the fuck?" And they... Yeah, they're being asked to open for Pearl Jam, which just seems

Reegs: This is in 1995 as well, when the album Ten

Sidey: came out. Yeah.

Reegs: so really at the height of their surging popularity, And his love for Neil Young Neil Diamond was so much that he actually licensed Alive to be played in this movie. It's the first time Alive's ever been allowed to be- Oh, really? And it's in this Neil Diamond

Sidey: movie. Wow.

Reegs: And actually, he was the one who told Neil Diamond to drop the lawsuit so this movie could get made as well.

Sidey: Oh, right. Okay. So

Reegs: he played a big role in

Dan: Wow.

Sidey: So they, they have this, like, enormous gig, you know. It's by far the biggest show they've played. Yeah. And he says to-

Reegs: opening for Pearl

Sidey: Jam. Yeah.

Reegs: they sing with him.

Sidey: He says to Eddie Vedder before he goes on stage, "You know, do me a favor," like one musician to another, and then, like, he brings him out on stage to sing one of the numbers. And, and I was watching it thinking, "This..." Well, I thought this would be how, like, they would play out the movie, you know. Yeah. This would be like-

Cris: Not

Sidey: halfway through it ... the, the mega happy ending. And you know, and you're like, "So what's..." You know, 'cause I don't obviously know these people, what their story is, what's gonna

Dan: No,

Sidey: No, right. And so you've got this like, you know- That's it, yeah the, if you look the curve of the film, you know, it's re- super happy and like, "Well, what's around the corner?"

Reegs: 'cause there's still an hour and 15 to go.

Sidey: Yeah. So c- 'cause it's quite a long film as well. And they're, they're back at the gaff, aren't they? Yeah. And he's re- he's got the k- he's just in his pants and a, and a shirt- Yeah and he's getting the, getting the kid to record his next message for the, the next year of sobriety. Yeah. And- Their life

Dan: is good. They're, they've just

Sidey: and she's, she's gardening, and she's been saying about how she just wants to have color in her life, and plants, and music and bl... So she's, like, fulfilling all of her- Full of life you know, ambitions. And you just see this fucking erratic car, like, driving around. And, Oh no ... at first when it was in the back, I thought, "Oh, that's the daughter," 'cause we've seen her working on her car a little bit. Yeah. And then the car just gets closer and closer and closer and cut. J- it just cuts just before it obviously piled into her. Yeah. And we're in

Dan: know, they're in the hospital and there's loads of red

Reegs: There's blood and screaming and crying. The kids are there. They're both covered in blood, like especially the youngest son. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, and and at that time as we find out the doctors are working on her to, to save her life and, and he's having a heart attack.

Reegs: He's already had one earlier, hasn't he? Yeah. Or at least murmurs when he was doing the

Sidey: the lawn mower. Oh yeah, he gets to get the daughter to...

Reegs: And then in this amazing scene, he is having a heart attack while his wife is having her leg amputated in the room next door, and he gets his 16-year-old daughter to restart his heart with a

Dan: stepdaughter, isn't it? Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah, it's her daughter, yeah.

Dan: doesn't, ... It made me sort of wonder why he

Sidey: didn't just ask- You're in a hospital ... one of the many

Dan: doctors in that hospital to do that. But I, I think it's just probably he's not thinking straight.

Reegs: This was a scene that was fabricated for the movie, though many things were not that, that happened

Dan: happened. Okay, 'cause it, it just made me think if that was true, 'cause I di- I didn't know that it wasn't that you're just not thinking straight at that point. Like, you know, and you don't wanna worry anybody, so just do it myself. So, yeah, she's sees him. He, he's told her what to do. He said, "In a minute I'm gonna collapse, like, and

Reegs: I think he passes out as he's saying it, doesn't he? Yeah. And

Dan: then she does it. She just kinda screams and goes, "Ah," and defibs him back, and we see them kind of back, and we, we learn then that she's lost her- right leg

Sidey: doesn't it? It cuts to her waking up in bed. Yeah. It's 'cause quite a... It's quite, I thought it was quite well done 'cause you don't know the outcome and you're like, "Oh, is she dead? What's going on?" And then thud, she's on the ground and then you see her sat up and she's had her, from her knee- She's tried

Reegs: get out of bed and forgotten that she's

Sidey: lost a leg. Yeah, yeah. So below the knee amputation. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: So yeah. And it'll start a period of the movie that's very bleak, where she becomes addicted to painkillers. She's starting extremely painful re- in fact, she doesn't start the rehabilitation yet really. She just becomes more and more depressed- more and

Dan: starts off kind of strong, doesn't she? But then I think the recovery's just not going quick enough, and she won't give us ... She, "Oh look, it'll just be..." And then she slides into this depression, and we already know- She can't

Reegs: That's the main thing, isn't

Dan: Well, we already know that she's,

Sidey: had depression before

Dan: had depression before because when the, the kids were talking about their mother and father's lives, they were saying, "Yeah, well, you know, that's what happens with us. You know, your dad, he drinks or whatever. My mom's had these problems before." And they obviously know it between each other. But yeah, she's just quite awful and quite sad then after that because he has to make this call to take her into care really. He just can't deal with it.

Reegs: she has a psychotic breakdown, doesn't she? Yeah I mean, there's a few things that go on because she starts accusing him of seeing other women when he's only going out to do a kind of

Dan: Work, yeah ... delivery job at

Reegs: Yeah ... at this Chinese restaurant. And then she has a complete psychotic break where she th- imagines herself on stage, but she's actually outside in the yard.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: And then she, he does have her committed.

Dan: And he

Reegs: And then he kind of gives up absolutely everything. He even gives up the karaoke, the one- part of his life that he had left to become a mechanic again, which he's shown to be good at, but is obviously not his passion.

Dan: No. Right. He's, Yeah, it's, it is a, a sad time for them because he's y- you know, I'm expecting him to fall off the wagon here- Yeah at th- at this point because

Reegs: Well, and then because Rachel, the daughter, is like, "Oh, by the way, I'm four months pregnant. You haven't

Sidey: noticed- Yeah. She's massive ... my arm's been, like- Yeah

Reegs: amputated, but I'm about to have a baby." And then he's very

Dan: you'd put on a bit of weight." Oh, right, and he go... What does he say? "I'm gonna, is it CMAC or something like that? Yeah. The,

Reegs: Some military acronym

Dan: Sort of situation, mission-

Sidey: Admin

Dan: Adver ... something, something, something,

Reegs: execution, admin,

Dan: something blah, blah, blah ... yeah. And he breaks it down. CMAC ... He- Which is what he's gonna give his son. Yeah. He, he breaks it down for her, and she says, "Well, I want my mom here to help." And-

Reegs: She thankfully has a very clear vision for what she wants to do.

Sidey: do. She doesn't wanna- She's

Reegs: to have the child- Yeah ... and she wants to give it up for adoption to a, a, an infertile couple.

Dan: And she's already been on the case

Reegs: to- She's found them already

Dan: She's already done admin "

Sidey: Right, so who's gonna lead you, you know, help you?" And she said: "I want my mum." Yeah. You know, oh, fuck it.

Dan: and she said, "I want my mom." Yeah. Oh, fuck it. And fortunately she's talking much like his therapy sessions with AA and his, his, his meetings that he still attends and, and goes, and they're obviously a big part of, of h- his recovery. She's starting to talk about it, and you hear her talking in a, in a circle within the hospital about music. "That's still mine. I can, I can do that still." And she's getting a little more spark back into her life and everything. And when she gets home, he's, he's not shown to be a mean man at any point. He's, he's actually really kind of nice. But- Mm ... when she'd just come back, he's... You can see he's

Reegs: He's at, at the end.

Dan: the end ... he's at the end of his tether and, and he's saying, "Look, I'm not gonna talk about music for you because I know where this goes. It's just gonna be an argument." Yeah. But actually she's in a much better place, and she sort of says, you know, "No, I, I wanna talk about this, and I think it might actually help me if I can do music again with you." And he... it's quite an emotional scene. He kind of- is breaking down, and he's, he's going, "Yeah. Okay, we can try that." And they just start to sing again on TV, don't they? Like

Reegs: they- Well, they, they, they start with the smallest shows first- Yeah ... at the Chinese restaurant. Yeah. And that sort of thing, and then it becomes a part of her re- rehabilitation as well. He's starting to help her- physically with her movement and all that sort of

Dan: They do a couple of

Reegs: stronger as their

Sidey: Great shell suits. suits. Yeah.

Reegs: yeah. And basically, you know, they're building up, building up, they're doing pretty well, and then it happens that Neil Diamond is in town.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: He's playing a show in Milwaukee, and I think it's, is it Jim Belushi comes up with the idea?

Dan: well, o- one of one of the Ritz guys or something. They're basically, they know that there's gonna be a, a sellout crowd at Neil Diamond. They also know that-

Reegs: An overflow ... that

Dan: there's gonna be an overflow of people that couldn't get tickets and want something else to do, so the next best thing is him- Yeah ... round the corner at The Ritz, and he's saying, "Look, we're not gonna sell out this place." Like, but absolutely plays down, 'cause they, they do. They are gonna sell out. And I dunno when the timeline when it happens, but she starts looking into the garden again, just where she was about to

Sidey: plant. Oh, yeah.

Dan: Yeah. And, and just as she moves away, she's sort of staring at it for about couple of minutes or so, just the area, thinking, "Bloody hell, that was where..." And I thought, "Oh, maybe she's gonna start planting again there." Yeah. And, you know, and she's just wanders off on that stop, goes up, like, two flights of st- stairs, and another car comes and hits in exactly the same spot.

Reegs: It's actually the thing- And it was- ... that motivates her to go forward, isn't it? Yeah 'Cause she's like, "Oh, lightning struck in the same place twice. They say it can't happen, and it did."

Dan: And it's

Reegs: But it's amazing. She would've been killed if she'd have been, or the sa- you know, lose the other leg if she'd have

Dan: howl- It would've been exactly the same ... she, yeah, that's it. She was just kind of howling with laughter, like, in a hysterical thing, and laughing at the guy who's just crashed his car. And he's like, "Oh, I'm sorry, I just kinda lost control." And you think, "Ow." Yeah. Like- I know ... it's just absolutely nuts. Yeah. And yeah, it kinda motivates them to, to go and seize the day in the moment.

Reegs: So they have the big show, it comes on, but the night of the show Mike has a-

Dan: Another kind of

Reegs: attack in the prep- preparing in the bathroom, falls and hits his head really horribly on the sink. And when he stands up, it's clear it's, like, pretty fucking bad. Like- Yeah ...

Dan: you know- Luckily he's got some nail

Reegs: glue, nail glue. Yeah And so he glues his head back together, blood absolutely everywhere- Yeah ... and just about pulls himself together to then do the show, which is a good 20 minutes, I reckon, of the movie.

Dan: movie. Yeah.

Reegs: 20 minutes of Neil Diamond,

Dan: he's gotta go up in a, up in a, a, a lift to enter through the, the floor of the stage and everything. And he just tells her how much he loves her- Mm on the way, and he's, he's got the words for their girls. I think he, he senses that he's not long for this world, but he's

Reegs: doesn't he nearly have a heart attack on stage? There's a

Sidey: Yeah. She, the daughter, daughter clocks him. Her daughter's with him. Clocks him, and he's like... She panics a bit, and he sort of gets up and looks at her, like nods or what. Yeah. And

Dan: he's saying, "Help me," and then he turns it into, like, part of the act and everything. A- and he's, he sort of hugged the girls and says, "You two are great. You'll always know what to do." Mm. And,

Reegs: it's just a massive success. It is

Dan: a, hu- he says in the back of the van, doesn't he, in the back of the car as they're going to meet Neil Diamond, who's requested them to meet- Yeah he's saying, "I think actually we were even better than Pearl Jam were." Yeah. Where, you know, we were... They loved it, and he's going, "No, no, I, I don't know." He's going, "But our fans, they're, they're like, they loved us. They absolutely lo-" So they're delighted with their performance. They're delighted with their evening. And,

Reegs: And they go off to the frozen custard shop- Yeah ...which is apparently a thing.

Dan: Where word has got out that Neil Diamond's gonna be there, so Jim Belushi's there already, and there's a few... And she gets out the car and says, "Are you okay?" And he goes, "I'm huge, baby."

Reegs: Which he'd been saying all the way through, "I'm huge. I'm huge,

Dan: and that's the last words he ever says, because he doesn't get out the car.

Reegs: Yeah, he dies in the backseat

Sidey: She comes, she goes back in the car to get him, and he's gone.

Reegs: It must take, like, three seconds for it to happen, because she gets out the car, looks round, and then goes back in for him, and he's gone.

Dan: And yeah, that, that's it. The next thing we cut to funeral planning. Yeah. And and the daughters discussing those final words and, you know, they're all being kind of brave about it. And he was obviously kinda young still. But he lived his life really, you know, how he wanted to do it and they have the the a lovely song, don't they, she sings at the end, like, and not a well-known Neil Diamond song,

Reegs: She does some Tupac.

Dan: Yeah. She... And and then we cut to him in video as His son ... as the son is watching. His son's watching

Reegs: the video of his 22nd-

Sidey: a coffee ... sobriety. 'Cause he said, he'd offered him a coffee when he first met him,

Reegs: he? Yeah.

Dan: he? Yeah.

Sidey: coffee? I'm like nine."

Dan: Yeah. He

Reegs: "I don't drink coffee." He's like, "Well, do you wanna start?"

Dan: Yeah. And that, and that's it. We kind of cut out. Well,

Reegs: we get a slightly weird thing of just the last bit is s- she goes out Claire goes out to plant plants, and she has her daughter there to watch while she does it, as

Dan: weird. Yeah, third time. Yeah.

Reegs: And then it's sort of left with, like, a horror-type shot as it just lingers on her putting the plants in, thinking, "Fuck me, is it gonna happen

Sidey: Another car, yeah.

Dan: Thought they'd just park the car in front of her, like, you know, so they

Sidey: know? Yeah. I

Cris: always thought just put a fence or a few rocks there at least. Other th-than...

Reegs: I'd be putting those massive, like- Bolards ...things that they have, you know, that they put on London Bridge when the terror

Dan: attack. Yeah. That's

Reegs: what I'd be putting outside my house.

Dan: Yeah, certainly after it's happened twice, like, you know. It's it's just a bad road for it, isn't it? It'd come off that corner. But so it's two hours

Reegs: 2 hours 15 ...

Sidey: hours

Dan: isn't it?

Sidey: Excuse me. It's, it's quite a lot for a Neil Diamond tribute.

Dan: is a lot for a Neil Diamond tribute film. But I watched it in two parts actually because, Recap

Reegs: You're a coward I,

Dan: That's just the way that it, it panned out. 'Cause I wanted to savor every, every moment and not watch it too tired because I was really enjoying it after. And we watched this together as a family, actually, the first part. They're catching up now actually watching the second part of it. Whereas I watched

Reegs: the lols they're having- Yeah ... in there then.

Dan: then ... Yeah. Exactly. You know, that's

Cris: high spirits in there

Dan: there. They'll be, It's

Cris: They'll be turning alcoholics,

Dan: all gonna get better and better as, as they realize he's not gonna make it. Yeah, I, I interested to know that this was a true story. So what, what else did it say that was true about this film

Reegs: that- a lot of the stuff, the car crashes were true. The Eddie Vedder stuff, involvement's true. I

Cris: Yeah, he is dead.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. He did die. I mean, it's not quite as it's depicted, as dramatically as it's depicted in the movie, as he's on the way to meet his hero, but Neil Diamond was coming to... You know, there was an arrangement, and he did fall very ill just before it happened

Sidey: that's- Claire did end up meeting him- Yeah l- later on. Oh, really? Down the... Not that night, but like years later. Okay. yeah.

Reegs: years later. Okay. It's a strange one, this. I really enjoyed it. The two central performances from Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson, especially Kate Hudson, I think, really, really

Dan: On point, yeah.

Reegs: It's in some ways, like, quite a very conventional and fluffy kind of biopic, and then it throws these harrowing, like, things that happened to them at you that's, you know, makes it something else. And I couldn't get over the time thing in it, the, Like, it was supposed to have been taking place over about 15 years, and everybody stayed looking exactly

Sidey: the same all the way through. Yeah, it's like Bart Simpson. He's never

Reegs: bizarre to me, that, as a choice, but I still really enjoyed it actually. And I really... I d- dislike the music of Neil Diamond. I actively dislike the music of Neil

Dan: Diamond. Active- well, you... We've seen you like- Mm-hmm ...anti-Neil.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: No Diamonds. Yeah. Yeah. And,

Reegs: in the Rough ...

Dan: whereas I don't actually. I think he's got a few cracking, crackling, rosy songs and Sweet Caroline

Reegs: all you did. You played Sweet Caroline

Dan: Sweet Caroline

Reegs: to wind me up 'cause you know I don't like it. Just- And because it's the only song that you lot

Dan: like? It,

Reegs: anyway about Neil

Dan: only one that, as they say in the film, that anybody knows really, or everybody knows that Neil Diamond song. But he has written obviously some other great songs.

Reegs: He's- Solomon ... yeah That was... That's the one g- that got me going, that

Dan: performer. And still gets in the crowds. I mean, Still going ... I think if the Neil Diamond... Still going. Yeah, he's still going, and he still sells out everywhere. Yeah, must still be- Like absolutely his fans are like-

Sidey: think he's n- not got much hair left

Dan: that are really, really loyal to, to Neil Diamond. I mean, they'll just go anywhere and everywhere to see him. They're still throwing their knickers on the stage to him and

Reegs: Oh, speaking of that, Hugh Jackman's hairy, isn't he? Yeah. He's a hairy boy. Mm. I noticed that when he's not waxed to oblivion, he's like

Sidey: Yeah. Waxing must be a tough, tough gig

Dan: He's got ... qui- yeah, that would be a tough gig. He's got quite a, a, a chest wig.

Reegs: Well, not just a chest, 'cause he spends a lot of this time in pants as well. He's like just hairy all over.

Dan: He has, Yeah, so if you wanna see Hugh Jackman in pants, then this is definitely a film to check out. But-

Sidey: Did you enjoy it, Chris?

Cris: No, not really. I watched this, ... I, I said it on the pod that I watched this a few, maybe a month ago or something like that. Randomly I put it on because it was ... Kira was like, "Shall we watch something?" And I, I found it on the same, one of these- Yeah ... platforms. And I was like, "Well, this is based on a true story. It's about music." I thought, "Well, let's see how ... " I didn't expect it to be this long, and I didn't expect it to be I, I kinda get your thing with the, the, the performances. They ... It was ... Both of them were good performances, and there were a few giggles and a few bits, but mm, enjoy it. Apart from the music. The music was really

Dan: You enjoyed the music? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, he really... Both of them actually can sing. Yeah. You know, really- good performances as far as the singing goes.

Reegs: And it's ... Well, even if you don't like the music, like I don't, it, there's enough going on with the camera to keep you interested during the very long Neil Diamond

Dan: Great to see Belushi in something. And who was the other guy? Who was his agent?

Reegs: Fisher Steven. No, his dentist. Yeah. No, his dentist. Fisher Stevens.

Cris: yeah.

Sidey: with the- He was,

Cris: got, like,

Sidey: a weird- He's got a funny head, hasn't he? Yeah. He was Phoebe's weird boyfriend in, like, one of the very first episodes of Friends.

Dan: Oh, really? It was- And,

Sidey: He was in-

Reegs: Johnny Five as well.

Sidey: Oh, yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Ah, yes. Of course. Yeah. That's where you would've, I'll- And Succession ... have seen him from

Reegs: He's, he's in Succession. He's very good

Dan: it. Oh, okay. Yeah,

Reegs: And Michael Imperioli, I really liked seeing him as well. I thought

Sidey: They just sort of fucking sideline him, though. As soon as he joins the band, it's like you never really see him again. You're like, "Come on, this guy's great." You're like, "Let's see more of him." I enjoyed it, but it... What the fuck? It's a 90-minute movie,

Dan: hour too long?

Reegs: There's quite a lot to fit in though. I

Sidey: mean- Yeah. We'll get rid of some of it

Reegs: there's an extraordinary amount. Two hours 15 was all right for me.

Dan: Well, I think it's a strong recommend, and I would I would recommend it strongly. that's

Cris: That's very well put, Daniel.

Dan: Thanks, mate. Whoa, somebody else is gonna have a choice next week.

Sidey: it's me.

Reegs: me. Ooh, Smithers.

Sidey: I've got one of them. Well, I think I know what one it is.

Reegs: it is.

Cris: Okay. That, that's encouraging. Okay. It's

Dan: Okay. This

Sidey: gonna be a kung fu movie.

Reegs: kung fu movie.

Dan: Oh. Kung fu

Sidey: Ooh. Kung fu ... so I'll let you know later on about that. But Spurs are on, so all that remains is to say Sidey signing out.

Cris: La revedere. Rita's left

Reegs: Reece has left the building.

Dan: Dan's gone.

Reegs: Hey.

Cris: his-