Midweek Mention... The Untouchables

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Okay. And that segues very nicely into the untouchables, which we're gonna do. Yeah. Are you gonna do the intro? No, because that's the for the main.

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Oh right, okay. Yeah.

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Everyone's seen this before? I don't know, just the people are listening for the first time, they're thinking what a smooth iteration this podcast is. The untouchables seen it before. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen it a couple of times.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Yeah, I've seen it before. Me too. Me too. You can't not have seen this like that. Unless you haven't.

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Yeah. So De Palmer.

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Yeah, De Niro.

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Wardrobe by Giorgio Almondio. Score Enrico Morio Morricone. Written by David Mammoth. Mammoth, yeah. It's like so many names. Yes. Yeah. And then the card. But De Niro, Costner, Connery, Andy Garcia is really good in this, as I remember. That nerd guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Yeah. Yeah, that nerd guy's actually quite good to be fair.

SPEAKER_04 1:55

He's quite I think yeah, I think he's he's excellent in it, actually. Charles Martin Smith, who's Oscar Wallace, the accountant. So it starts with a little overhead shot of Al Cap one. Yeah. He's getting a shave, isn't he? Yeah. It's a great shot from the top. The guy cuts, I mean, he's got a bit of a text spiel about this is the era of this is the the time of our captain. Prohibition. Yeah. It's a bil even in the 30s, it's actually 1930, isn't it? Yeah. And even though it's a billion-dollar industry, this bootlegging and there's gangs fighting for control of that, obviously. And then he's talking. He's sort of overtly saying about he is responsible for all this bootlegging. He says, I'm just a man taking advantage of an opportunity and I'm I'm feeding the demand. So it's not like If it wasn't him, it would be someone else. But it's not that people don't know that he's a crook.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Do you know what I mean? He's trying to pin anything on him. And we also understand from the police, from just your average Joe on the street. Prohibition isn't loved. It's deeply unpopular. It's deeply unpopular, and everybody wants a drink, they just when he comes in, he has to tell his squad, no fucking drinking.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

You know, if we're gonna uphold the law, we're gonna fucking law.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

He's one of the first people to come in and be appointed as this special task force to treasury. Yeah, to make sure that it's taken seriously and there's corruption all the way through the police system, but he has to, you're right, go into this sort of group, this squad of policemen all sat down and saying first thing we gotta do is not have a drink. So that makes him really unpopular unpopular.

SPEAKER_04 3:32

And they they well, they go, he's got some intel about a shipment of s Canadian whiskey coming in. They know it's gonna be in such and such a warehouse and it's gonna be marked with the Canadian maple leaf on the box. Right, it really early on, isn't it? They go straight in and he's all like gung-ho. What does he say? Let's do some good.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

Yeah, it's just a bit I didn't see it for this time round, but it's just a bit where he gets like some massive fucking snow plow.

SPEAKER_04 3:54

Yeah, it's the one they take the piss out of in Police Academy.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Yeah, he's also got naked gun on me. He's also got a photographer that he saw at the scene and he's getting him to take his picture and saying, Look, you know, this will be great kind of publicity.

SPEAKER_04 4:09

Come in and get your picture, and he's ends up holding an umbrella and embarrassing photo they take the photo, and then as he walks back into the pre-scene the next day, everyone's like, and he said, Let's do some good, and they're all like laughing about him. He's like, and someone's cut out the newspaper headline and stuck it on his office door, so he's like And it's like 1980 this movie?

SPEAKER_03 4:30

87. And Costner still looks really young though, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Real fresh face. He's 32.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

I thought he was older than that, but he's he he go he's had this bad day at the office, and he goes out and he's sort of kicking his heels around it in the evening and he's fucking like twat. And his wife had written him a note to put in his pack lunch about I'm so proud of you, and he scrunches it up and throws it into the river. And just as he does that, Connery's Malone is walking past, all done up in his like police uniform, and he says, And what do you think you're doing? And it's like Connery and just Connery accent. Yeah, yeah. No effort whatsoever as he doesn't identify himself as a member of the uh treasury on this thing, does he? He just sort of gives him some shit, and the guy's like, Alright. And then he says, Well you No, he does. He he says I'm I'm a member of the Treasury, and he goes, Okay, right, fine, we'll fuck off. And so he goes after him and says, Well, you just walk off and and just accept that. What kind of what the what's the policing like in this town? So they have this sort of ding-dong, but they build up a report.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

Well, it's funny because he's he's got a gun in there and he goes, You're just gonna let me walk off and you know, say that I'm in the treasury and and that's good enough. And he goes, Nobody would lie about being in the treasury. And he goes, Oh yeah, well, and he's the old wise policeman, and he goes, endeth the lesson in the end. You know, if you can go home. Yeah, he says, Oh, fucking I shift alive.

SPEAKER_04 5:53

And I'm gonna go home and says, Well, there you go, you've passed the first lesson of policing, then your shift, go home alive.

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And yeah, you it's not the first and the the not the last we're gonna see of Connery in this film. Or his or his apartment.

SPEAKER_04 6:06

Nestracks him down the next day. He's thought about it, it's like he seems like someone who's straight up, you know, he's proper police, could do with someone like him on my task force. Yeah. So tracks him down, it's Racine, the corner of Racine and something else. We're gonna see that short later on. And he goes up and he knocks on the door, and Connery goes over to his grammar phone and pulls out a sworn-off shotgun, which obviously is pretty fucking sketchy neighbourhood, and sort of opens the door and it's nests, and then they have this chat then about come on, I need you to get on board with this thing I'm trying to do. And he's like, Fucking no way, man, I'm old, you know, I'm out, I'm you know, I shouldn't even be doing the beat, you know, I'm I'm fucking washed up. So they they they kind of they get on well, but he's he sort of says no, and then eventually he's gonna come back later on and go, alright, you want to do it, we're gonna fucking do it the hard way. And he he takes him into, I don't know where it was a big station or a church or something, and he says, Yeah, we're gonna do the Chicago.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

No, it's a it's a church, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:04

Because he's got his his rosary thing, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 7:06

Yeah, but before that we see Oscar coming into Elioness's office because he's been sent by the FBI or someone. He sat at his desk, isn't he? Yeah, he just sat at his desk and he's like, Who are you? I'm Oscar, whatever. And he's like, So what do you do? I'm here to help you. And he's like, We're gonna get him for tax, for tax fraud. He hasn't filed a tax term for like four years or something. And you can see Elioness just like tax. This is a murder, and we're gonna get him for tax. Okay, mate, and he just goes outside and just they they're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Yeah, it is, and it's only they start to realise actually America's one of those countries, probably like most of the world, that takes tax evasion more seriously than murder. Yeah, so you're gonna go profit, Stan, you're gonna go away for longer.

SPEAKER_04 7:53

So it's not like he keeps going back to all his corporations or the shell, you know, it's impossible to track the money back to him. So now we've got Malone, we've got Elliot Ness, we've got the bookkeeper, we've got Oscar the bookkeeper, but we need one more to complete the puzzle. And Malone has said to him, you know, if if Capone's one of Capone's men's pulls a knife, you pull a gun. If he puts one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue. So we needed someone with a bit of fucking rough and tumble, bit of attitude.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

And also he tells him, Who can you trust in this style? Yeah, nobody. So we need a new guy.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

They need a new guy and fingered. They do like a little montage of trying out the new guys and interviewing really well says I want someone who's unmarried, because he doesn't want anyone to put their family at risk.

SPEAKER_04 8:41

So there's only I think the only uh the new cadets, there's only two that are unmarried. But one is some stuttering ginger guy, yeah. He's fucking useless, and straight away they're like, Yeah, off you go. And then Andy Garcia's is looking so fucking so hot, and you see him just reel off load of shots, he shoots the the fucking he's on the shooting range, and he shoots the the target target like twice in the chest, and then two eyes and the mouth like he's a fucking sharpshooter, and they call him over, and his name's George Stone. He's like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

He's like, and when did you change it? Connery's got the balls to sort of with his Scottish accent to call him out.

SPEAKER_04 9:23

He trigger straight away this Italian and his name's Giuseppe, something or other. Yeah, and he's like, just what I thought, a fucking wob. And he says, Well, you stinking Irish pig, blah blah blah. So you know, they haven't and he's like, I like him, let's get him in. Yeah. So he he's the fourth one that completes the the jigsaw. And they go straight away, he's like, Right, come on, then let's go and fucking let's go and bust some booze. And LNS is like, What do you mean? He goes, Everyone fucking knows where the booze is, like everyone knows what's going on. It's just everyone's too scared you can get to do because you're just gonna be some some comeuppance, but so they go it's actually in the back of the post office where they go and raid. And it's across the street from the police station.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Yeah, they just walk across the streets.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

It's just literally a door that says do not enter. Yeah, and they enter, and there's just a shitload of uh crates and barrels, and some guy says, Hey, you can't be in here, and they're like, Fuck off. Malone like sticks the butt of the rifle into him and puts him on the ground. Then we cut to a big sort of banquet dinner where our Capone's there, it's all black tie, he's got all his lieutenants around the table, and he's giving this big speech, and he's where's he gonna go? This thing's like baseball, and he's holding a baseball pad, and you're thinking, Oh no. And he's talking about baseball and how important it is and how it's all about the team. And then he says, Someone in the team, and you're like, Here it comes, and he just gets around the table till this guy who was in the post office, someone fucks up, and then they lets the whole team down and he just clubs. Like it the camera's sort of behind a guy's head, so he's looking away and he just head on the table, and he's just like whack, and everyone's trying to get it. But he keeps going, everyone's trying to look away. You see like blood like spraying across the table, and then the cat again that shot from up high, just looking directly down on it, and blood just like pulling out onto the table, and like, yeah, don't fuck up, let's go, what have you.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Yeah, that's the pressure now, is he's feeling it, and he won't, you know, take any shit from anyone. It's fucking Al Capone, you know, everybody's just heard the name. He's it's almost like a a fictionary kind of character, isn't it? Al Capone. But the dude actually was around and he was badass, obviously. And with billions at stake back in those days, you can understand how mean he's gotta be to keep an operation like that going. And it is a weird one, as we said, it's one of those where people want to drink, even the cops want to drink. Even the cops on Elliot Ness's task force want to drink.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Well, that's why it didn't work, isn't it? I mean, in the end, that's why prohibition was abandoned.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Yeah, there's it was the law of the land, whether you like it or not.

SPEAKER_04 11:58

You know, that's they've still got weird hang on about like the 21 being age 21.

SPEAKER_03 12:02

They do, but then their measures are fucking ridiculous, aren't they? Like if you go and ask for like a whiskey or whatever, it's not like you get an actual measure. Yeah, they just pour and look at you. And so when they go, they go.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

But they there's a bit of espionage. So obviously Ned Al Capone, he's got people in the police. We've seen the police captain looking a bit shady from time to time. Yeah. But they've got people, they get a bit of intel about where the next shipment is coming in, but this time not like the the other one. It's coming in from the Canada side over this bridge, so they go over, they've got the Canadian mounties there.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:35

Who always get them in. Yeah. And there's a little house on the prairie where they're gonna sort of wait and wait for it all to go down. They're no one can like approach until the fucking deal is done.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

And until they've crossed the Canadian side into the American side, then the mounties are gonna come up to the rear. They're all gonna wait on the signal, but of course they don't, they all go gang gung-ho. They fuck it up, the man. They charge in, mountain.

SPEAKER_04 13:00

One car appears and a guy waves a flag, doesn't he? Yeah. And the the the van comes up, and then the the lorries come up the other side with the barrels, and then there's this gunshot, like they've gone early, and Malone's like, come on, you know, we're gonna you're gonna die something, so they just fucking charge in and you get this great big fucking gunfight. It's really cool, actually.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

So there was no prohibition in Canada then? No.

SPEAKER_04 13:22

No, it was just just America, yeah. Just America. So there's a there's a gunfight, and there's quite a lot of the higher-ups, I think, from Capone's crew here, and they've got the fucking ledger. Yep. That's right. So when they they shoot everyone, and there's a really good bit actually where one guy runs off, one guy nest tracks back to the little house, and he tells him don't fucking move, and the guy goes for his gun, he has to kill him, and he's laid out on the porch. And he's really disappointed. There's another guy who runs off, and eventually, like Malone just like, Look, I'm gonna fucking shoot you, just like you know, he he guys like, okay, fine. So they drag him back, and but he's like, Fuck you, pigs, I'm not fucking telling you anything. And so Malone goes out, gets the guy who's dead, but this guy from the game. He doesn't know that he pins him up against the the window and just screams at him like him. You don't you've got three seconds to tell me. What can't talk with a gun in your mouth and then blows his head off. And the guy's like, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what you want to know. I'll tell you what.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

It's funny with a mounty as well, because the mounty doesn't know either. So he's like, I don't uh I don't approve with your methods. Shut up, Mounty, and you dick.

SPEAKER_04 14:29

Well, and even Nest then, he's gone like all in, he's like, Yeah, this is the Chicago way. Yeah, and so they've got this guy, and they bring him back, and the guy, the like district attorney issues a subpoena for Capone, and they finally got him. They think they've got enough to get him, you know, in front of a judge. They've got enough of a case, and then there's a that news report was there again, and the guy's saying, Oh, Elliot Ness and his crew of untouchables, and it's a great it's like a steady cam shot, I think, through all the hallways through, and they've got Oscar the bookkeeper, who's had a really like good bit here because he's been a nerd and he's actually gunned a load of people down. And he's there's a battle that's been shot, and he has a little cheeky drink as well. And he's gonna take this guy, the witness, out to be taken away to a safe house through the service elevator, and we see the guy operating the elevator, and it's the guy we've seen do really fucking horrible shit throughout the film. Yeah, he's like the hit midi. He blows out the gal at the very start of the film.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Is he the one that you get from his p point of view? There's a shot, isn't there, in the movie that comes from somebody's point of view as they like breaking through a window or he is uh a guy that tries to get the shape.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

Late later on.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Yeah, Frank Nittin.

SPEAKER_04 15:39

Yeah, so he he's the one in the elevator and the doors close, and the woman in the who's been in there knows she looks around, so there's a few people on the take here, and as soon as the elevator starts going down, he looks round, just pulls the gun out on the witness, blows him away, and then goes to the goes to Oscar, who just does this big gasp, and he's executed. And obviously everyone in the police station hears this. Malone and Elliott Ness, they run down, they can't get in, they have to run down and go to the bottom, and then the police captain just walks off and he looks out the window and he sees that some guy's been killed.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

Couple of a couple of uniform cops uh he does the little cross sign.

SPEAKER_04 16:17

He obviously knew it was going down, and then they go down to the open they force the door open and they just see them there, and and the boogie has been hung up, the account's been hung up on the fucking like thing, and it's just scrawled touchable in blood on the walls by him.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Of course they've been called untouchable because they can't be corrupted. But they got to him, and then the lawyer decides that he hasn't got enough scenario. Without the witness, just the book isn't enough.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Because they they haven't translated the book. It's coded, yeah. Yeah. So the guy was gonna tell them who is who how to read the letter. Because the names are just names, but it it doesn't say Al Capone or it doesn't say whatever.

SPEAKER_04 17:01

Yeah, they're clever enough about it. Yeah. And so Ness is just like, well, that's it, we've taken it as far as we can go. And all the way through, like Milo's been saying, what are you prepared to do? What you know, what are you prepared to do? How far are you prepared to go? If you just play it by the book, forget it. This is all gonna work. So he says, Look, fucking store the DA, I still think I could get you, I can get you. We need the bookkeeper, and I think I can get him. So he goes off and he goes to see the police captain. He goes into the the police officer's fucking bar, wherever the fuck they drink, and and drags him out, and they end having a fucking ding-dong because he knows he's a dirty cop, you know, and he knows and he's like, Listen, I'm gonna you get fucking killed, you know. If I say the word the captain's saying you're a fucking dead man, he's like, I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

Yeah. All cards are on the table now. He he he doesn't give a fuck and he's gonna be like, actually. Yeah, he knows that the captain can give him the information on where the bookmaker's gonna be, and it's their last chance. So he manages to get that information and he says, Look to Ness, meet me at my place, and at that time that hit man comes back to his place, he's obviously got word that six or three Racine, yeah, that it's not gonna happen. You've got to kill Malone. And Malone is is a step ahead of him when he gets into the place.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

This is the bit with the point of view shot with it. It's from them looking through the window, but it's yeah, that's right. It's not nitty, it's the other guy. Oh right. He's a bit of a dipshit. He looks through the window, and you can tell like Malone's not stupid, he's he fucking knows, and because he goes, he goes back to his gramophone, we're like, we've seen this before, yeah, and he winds it, and then he just turns round and the guy's climbed through the window and he's got his sawn off, and he's that's what he says, just like a whop to bring a knife to a gunfight, but doesn't get the last laugh because when he walks out, Nettie's there with the machine gun, just fucking guns. Tommy gun, yeah, Moses. He must get about 20 fucking rounds in at least before he falls over, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

Then he drags himself like big bloody trail to the gramophone room again. He's still got time for Costner to come along and get the last words out of him, which are he's pointing, he thinks he's pointing at his religious thing, his key and his but it's not, it's the train timetable. And he goes, What the bookmakers on this on this train. Yes, that's it, gone. And then you've got the scene where Costner is waiting at the station because he's gonna be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

Him and Garcia go down, yeah. And they they're waiting for the train to Miami. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:34

The 1605, yeah, and there's the you can keep seeing the clock, and they really draw this out because it's this is the famous scene. This is the same famous one. The lady at the bottom, which they've taken from Battleship Potemkin. She's got this really old-fashioned um two suitcases, which is trying to get up, and there's obviously no lift. So she's trying to get herself, the kids screaming, and no fucker helps her. So Capone is a family man, he's looking over, he's like Eliot's not. Sorry, so yeah, Elian S. He's he's like, I need to help her, but pretty important thing about to go down. And eventually he you know he does.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Well, in the end, it helps him because he goes down, and in as they all flood in like a minute before the train's about to leave, they don't instantly recognise him because he's helping with with the pram. And she said, Oh, thank you very much. This that's good enough now. Like, but he realizes, wait a minute, they're all coming in. He's like the bushkeeper come through. Yeah, and it begins shooty shooty time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:30

But the pram is is let go and it's in slow motion, it's going down step at a time. And he's told Stone to go do the south entrance, and he's called back and he sh he shoots someone because this he's a proper sharpshooter. He shoots someone from between a little crack and he through his mucking through the head, and then he has to slide in and stops the pram. Yeah, with his leg. And then he's just waiting there like with his hand out with the gun aiming, and because the other guy's then got the bookkeeper.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

Yeah, it comes down to one one guy left with the bookkeeper, and he's got that bookkeeper.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

It's such a good scene as I remember, but I honestly can only think of naked gun just now.

SPEAKER_04 21:11

Like just like it sort of ruins it a bit, but yeah. So he says, Oh, yeah, I've got the shot.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

Have you got it? You've got it and bang. He lets him have it. And then you just see the blood come out of the guy's mouth. And the bookkeeper is just saying, 'I'll tell you anything you need to know, I'll tell you anything you need to know.' He's not cut out for this life. No. And next time we see him, it's on the stand. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:31

And they're they're a bit perplexed because it we do go to then the courtroom and courtroom scene. Yeah. And they're like, he doesn't look that fucking stressed, doesn't it Capone? He's like fairly relaxed. He's just chat into his lawyer.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

And he's like, oh, this will be over soon. He kind of just mumbles around. He's like, yeah, whatever. But they see Capone passing a no to the Nitty. Yeah. And and he's like, what's that guy doing? And then he sees the gun inside Nitti's jacket. He's like, he go calls the Bailiff, yeah. He's like bailiff. That guy's hub hold holding a gun in court. They take him out and then it's just a bailiff mess and nizzle. And all right, you got a gun, I got a permit for that. You got a gun, everything out on the table. And he gets a note. It's a list of the jurors. Yeah. And there's there's a list of the jurors. And the match in the match.

SPEAKER_04 22:23

Yeah, racist in 1634. Racine. Yeah. And he knows he's he's the one who kills um Malone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

It's kind of that. So well that he starts running, doesn't he? But he kills the kills the bailiff, doesn't he? He shoots the bailiff and then he runs upstairs. There's a couple of bodies on the way that as Ness is chasing him that he finds, and they end up being on top of the building. And Ness is they're shooting each other, and Ness has got him at one side.

SPEAKER_04 22:51

Eventually he tries to climb down and he's a climb, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_02 22:53

Yeah, he's trying to climb down a rope and get him through a window that won't break, so he ends up climbing back and he's almost taunting him, going, Okay, law man, help me then, because you've just got to put me away and I'm gonna beat this rap like you know, it's not a fucking problem. And Ness is like he goads him about yeah, he just gets up and he he he does it, and it's kind of the vigilante side.

SPEAKER_04 23:14

He goes him about Malone, he says he squirrels like stuck Irish pig. Yeah. And he's like, What the fuck? He's just absolutely rage, and just throws him straight off the roof. Yeah, he takes the law into his own hands, yeah, he pushes him off the room. He probably throws him, he's like, go on and he lands on a old like bottle of T Ford straight through the fucking. There's four of them lined up in there outside the courtroom. He goes back down to the judge in the judge's chamber. It says, you know, we basically need to speak to you. And we don't see the what what happens, and then we could go back to the courtroom and the judge is like looking really nervous.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

It made me think though, that scene where he went through the the car, that's where Yana would park.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

She just has such bad luck in the cars.

SPEAKER_04 24:00

Yeah, the judge is looking really nervous, and he eventually he he calls this bailiff, the new bailiff, over and says we need to switch the jury that's just starting in the next courtroom over for this one. And then you see Capone panic, he's like, What the fuck, what's going on? We can't do this. Um they sort of lean over to Elliot Ness and say, What do you say to him in there? And he said, I I s his I told him that his name was in the the book as well. It was in the ledger. He goes, It wasn't and told him it was.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah. It might not have been, but they're all on the take this lot.

SPEAKER_04 24:28

So and they don't even get they don't even get to even start the court go the the lawyer for Capone just says we want to change our plea to guilty.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Do something, he says, Do something, do something, he goes and he loses it. It's really good. And then they've kept all they've kept a record of the jurors and exactly how much like written everything down, like you know, two.

SPEAKER_04 24:44

For all the clever stuff they've done, this is really amateur this film, they've just written like ten thousand, nine out of five things. Um jury is held out for more than others, it looked like Ness comes over to sh to shout something at him, and it's such a lame way. Never give up, never give up, never give up. Yeah, yeah. I would have said, I've got you fucking pricked.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Well no, because that's what obviously that's what Capom said. I'd be the fight is never done until the last man stands or whatever, so you got nothing.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

I think he gets twenty-eight years or something like that. He's clearly got something, yeah. I think actually he does is it eleven? But uh he went to Alcatraz, didn't he? He went to Alcatraz, yeah. Yeah, he did eleven years in the end, didn't he? He may have been extended, I I don't know, but that's how that film that ends, it lets you know.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

Yeah, but also Sean Connery escaped from Alcatraz in that film, isn't it? Yeah, probably could have helped the phone, yeah. You know, he came back from the dead to help Alphonse.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

Ness is outside the courtroom there on the street, and uh the the same reporter has kept cropping up, he's fucking tiny by the way, that guy. He says, Oh Mr. Ness, what are you gonna do now? Because it's basically that's the end of his second to the treasury. He says, What are you gonna do now? He's like, gonna go have a drink. Because they I think the news then breaks as well that that is repealed prohibition. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

He's like gonna go get on the session. Yeah. And they're like, hey, well done, pointless.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

Yeah, it makes it seem so very pointless, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 26:07

All those people dead, so somebody couldn't have a drink, and they realised that actually just you know, bring it in. Let them drink because legalise it and tax it and it'll Because Capone's just keeping all the the money here and buying all the cops. So that was a great idea for them to ban booze back in those days. But yeah, this is with all those names we mentioned at the start, the the Palmers, the Enrico Marzioni, and him as well, yeah. Yeah, the the costumes by Giorgio, the writing. Yeah, the tailoring was sharp, so hat wearing, right?

SPEAKER_04 26:42

There's some good hat wearing the hat sack, hats and suits, hats and suits, and also Frank Nitti white suit. That guy, can you imagine him in a like a romantic lead? No, no, he's just pure villain, that guy.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Eyes that are just death, aren't they? They're really cold. And that's why he shows and he plays that kind of part brilliantly. You know, you look at De Niro in this, and we've seen him in other kind of gangster films and other characters similar, and you can see that thread that goes through him when he just turns and twists as he did it as Capone. He's scary. I mean, he's just got that.

SPEAKER_04 27:19

It's good when he's angry when he like because there's a bit after, we didn't mention it, but after they've killed Oscar, Ness goes straight to his because they've taken over a whole hotel in Lexington and he confronts him. And as soon as he calls him a son of a bitch, then Capone fucking loses it.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

In front of my family.

SPEAKER_04 27:33

You you fucked, you got fucking when he goes angry, he's really good at that scenario thing. I love this. This is like this is genuinely in my top five films of all time.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Yeah, yeah, you've said before how much love this and it is.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

It's not him, everyone like the crit it was like critically not, it wasn't like that.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Well, Connery got his Oscar, of course, for best support and actor. Didn't really feel that I mean, I don't know what Elsie was who Elsie was up against that year. Probably somebody who could do an accent. He's good, yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

He's like another Marcune that just like does the same thing. It works because they're charismatic and they're good.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

I thought Oscar actually stole the scenes that he was in, though. I thought he was Andy Garcia.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

I remember Andy Garcia being really good, yeah. Like he was good, so gorgeous. And and just like slick and just everything delivered properly.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Still a strong recommend for me. It wasn't as I'd seen it before. I hadn't seen it for a little while, thankfully, because it's not a film that I watch every year, but certainly probably every four or five years I've seen this film over the first.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

There's bits of it where you can tell it's you can really see that it's on a lot, you know, it's got a lot and other times it look just looks like a million bucks. It looks great. I would watch this like at least once a year. I fucking think it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

Yeah, I like it. And and to be fair, that's why I numbed it because I I do like it and I like the lighting, I like the costume, I like the way that the some scenes are shot, it's great architecture and and the the way it's being shot, the the the the top bit where they shoot from the top, the the films.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

All the art deco stuff and all the stuff.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

And there's the floors, and then you it's it's basically a different perspective which you don't really get. And and in let's say in more modern films, you get the shades or the shadow of a thing or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 29:14

Our deco was all angles and shit, wasn't it? And all these like lines and stuff, so you can make it stuff look visually interesting.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

Yeah, it's and and the the fact that it's it's still based on real people and real things that happened. Obviously, you know, it's not the way everything went down, but No, a little bit Hollywood licensed. But at the same time, this is a 1987 film that obviously I don't think anyone can call anyone a whop these days, but generally film you can.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

I mean, you gotta you gotta go with it in the time, haven't you? You know, you've got to you wanna tell me what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

It's it's it's we and I keep saying this to few films that we w from the eighties or nineties that we watch that or that we review that some of them don't really hold up in today's today's society and world with the way they speak or they treat other people or treat women or whatever. There's not that many women in this one, but it's generally if you look at it, it's it's not really anything that would be out of place because it's a real story about real people.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

It still looks great. Yeah. Like 1987, it looks brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

But film students still look at film has a test.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

It would be that's because of lighting. But was this I I don't have the stats here, but was this big budget because 25 million euros, I think it was.

SPEAKER_04 30:32

Yeah, that's big. That's probably pretty big for 1987, 2020 to 23 estimated made uh worldwide 187 big big time.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

But yeah, it I imagine film students still uh asked to study this film from the angles, from the lines. Normally how it starts.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

Like we said, right, like you said from the beginning, it starts and you get all this starring, the director, the this, this everyone is just every even I've heard of all of these.

SPEAKER_04 30:59

Yeah. So who is who? Sean Connery won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor, his only Academy Award, despite his Scottish accent being entirely undersguised throughout the film. Yeah. 2003 Empire Magazine polls subsequently voted the worst accent in film history. Well, that's wrong. But what do they know? Definitely not. This to me, strong, strong recommend. Yeah. Strong. Check it out.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Did you say it's untouchable?

SPEAKER_04 31:21

Yes. Yeah.