The Big Blue

 The Big Blue

Reegs: Le Grand Bleu

Sidey: That was a good one Le Grand Bleu Where?

Cris: Bleu. Oui Oh, where?

Sidey: 1998 joint directed by Luc Besson, runtime of 73 hours.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. It's a long one. It's 166, 7, 6... 168 minutes. And I watched this over... I mean, I chose this, but I've seen it once before because nobody's gonna watch this too many times. But it was years and years ago and I remember really enjoying it. But it is a long movie, and so- It's longer than that, Dan ... it's longer than that. It's, it's a really, really long movie. It was filmed in France-

Cris: as well.

Dan: That is terrible Yeah ... United States-

Cris: okay. Are we going there already?

Dan: Italy.

Cris: We're going there already. Fucking hell, all

Reegs: going already. We're going already. France and Morocco as

Dan: let's, It

Sidey: starts off with a kind of helicopter-y drone thing of the- Yeah coastal area and some nice water.

Cris: And, Black and white ... black and white. Yeah, black and

Dan: It became one of France's most commercially successful films.

Sidey: Yeah, but they're French. It also starts then when we i- introduce to some children in what looks like their underwear, and I kind of thought, "Oh, I know why Dan was into this." Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: After w- want- putting us onto Walkabout. Yeah.

Sidey: Similar themes. Yeah.

Dan: Well, you know,

Sidey: well, there,

Reegs: it's Greece in n- in 1965, I think it was- Yeah did it say, as it comes up? Something like that. And Jacques is,

Dan: our character,

Reegs: Mayol, that we meet, and he... There's some friends, aren't there? They're going, "Come. Come and see this. There's something shining in the water." And they run down to the harbor, and there's a priest there. Yeah.

Sidey: he's just vibing, just chilling and watching these young boys.

Reegs: A really bizarre character. Yeah, just watching these young boys in their swimming trunks. And he was a bit of a bizarre character, this guy. But anyway, before we get to him, we're introduced to Enzo, aren't we? Who's the sort of- Yeah cocky,

Cris: Who's this- Yeah

Reegs: cocky

Sidey: Yeah ... smirky young lad. Eating, he's got chocolate all over his face.

Dan: and yeah. And he challenges... Enzo challenges Jacques to get the coin from the bottom of the sea, and Jacques says, "No." Yeah. "I don't wanna do it." And Enzo, But we'd seen him, Jacques, just before split up a fight between the boys that

Sidey: had,

Cris: That initially found the coin,

Dan: the coin and said... And came up with a kind of Solomon, King Solomon type answer like, "We'll buy something. You can't split a coin in half- Yeah but we'll buy something, and we'll split that." Whereas Enzo, when he finally goes in, dives down, gets the coin, brings it back up his answer is very much like the kids. "You can't split a coin, stupid. I'm keeping it, like, you know, it's mine."

Reegs: We see they're quite different characters.

Sidey: then that priest

Dan: sees the, the gentleness, I guess, in Jacques, and throws in another coin for him to go and collect, and says, "Look, there's a coin down there. You go and dive down," and obviously it's for him to keep, and he wants to return it to

Cris: the priest

Dan: the priest is the good guy ... to the priest, but the, the... And so it just gives you a, a little flavor of the, the two different characters that we're, we're gonna- Be meeting throughout the rest of the film- Yeah as their l- lives are kinda

Reegs: Yeah ... as

Sidey: their lives are kinda

Dan: interlinked.

Reegs: yeah- We've still got room for a tragedy though- Yeah because Jacques lives with his- His

Dan: His father

Reegs: caricature Uncle Louis. Yeah. And his father, who's a real dour, gruff fisherman- Yeah ... deep-sea diver

Sidey: His this was the diving equivalent outfit of Count Binface, I thought.

Reegs: Yeah. It's th- one of those. I mean, Dan, I... We often joke about what is in the man cave, but Dan does have a full diving suit- Yeah

Sidey: In- But he looked like a, half a a sort of- Wine barrel almost Yeah Yeah

Dan: And they pump... It was one of those even earlier than that one, I think, and they pump, Pump a lot of water in or cheaper. Certainly cheaper than that one. They pump the air into it The air, sorry, yeah And he goes down, he was fishing for, like, scallops or, or something off the, off the rocks-

Sidey: Wouldn't you know it

Dan: down, and tragedy strikes. Oh. The air gets kinda mashed up. I'm

Sidey: quite sure what- Not airy. Wasn't enough air ... was going on. Something, yeah, something got trapped and he sort of just died, and Jack's trying to dive in and

Cris: and his

Sidey: his l- Uncle Louis is holding him back, and

Reegs: and- Yeah, sort of s- crying

Sidey: sees it from the, from the shore He's just looking,

Dan: just looking, yeah All this is filmed in black and white. And

Reegs: they didn't trust you to understand that it was in the

Sidey: in the past- ... is my assumption. Yeah.

Dan: and but by the... And he drowns in front of the, the kinda children, and Enzo is actually there. He's fishing on the rocks and

Sidey: he's

Reegs: I think he turns away, doesn't he? Is

Sidey: Jack." You

Dan: he's shouting-

Sidey: Just in the chaos of

Dan: Oh, he turns away ... "Jack, Jack." You know, he's shouting. Just in the chaos of it all, that noise would've been coming through as well. And by the 1980s, both are well known for their free diving skills and Enzo- Doesn't

Sidey: Jack off the ocean. If anything- No ... he's more intrigued and determined

Dan: more in tune with it. I mean, we've seen him dive

Sidey: some reason

Dan: Yeah ... and fielding moray, feeding moray eels, haven't we? We

Reegs: We did right at the beginning. It was a great shot, that.

Dan: And,

Reegs: I think it's, it's Enzo that we see first, isn't it? Yeah. Him and his brother.

Sidey: Yeah, in his Fiat 500

Reegs: his Fiat 500. In his Fiat 500 that was absolutely- It's a beaten- beaten up to shit. Yeah. I- it was some sort of... I did not understand how this was a scam, but- I don't know. Yeah,

Cris: there's a... So there's a

Sidey: wreck- Yeah ... that some guy- Some guy comes running

Reegs: like, "Oh my God, there's someone trapped in

Cris: there."

Sidey: don't know if they, if they'd sent this guy down to say, "Oh, there's something in there, if you can get it out," or something. Yeah. Because if, es- essentially they get tasked with rescuing this guy.

Reegs: It's a really good sequence, this actually, 'cause all the underwater sequences are really good. Yeah. And you see Jean Reno, like, free dive down there- Yeah ... don't you? Without any equipment. Absolutely. Into the wreck, g- going through, find this guy- Yeah pull him out. Yeah.

Sidey: But as he drives off, they- Yeah, like they're laughing they're hilariously laughing like they've, they've just ripped this guy off. You're like- Yeah ... I was like, "But how have you done that?"

Reegs: I know. I, I, I'm

Dan: I think it- Well,

Sidey: a check for $10,000 Yeah, but how would they arrange the plant?

Dan: No, I don't think it, it had. They've just... It's just happened. It was a bit of luck. They, you know-

Sidey: Oh, okay

Dan: score like this is just amazing 'cause there's clearly not much going on in the, on the island. Sicily, yeah

Cris: island. Right. Yeah.

Dan: But but this, you know, the... I think the, the scam is they'd have probably done it for free, but his brother goes,

Sidey: "It's gonna cost you

Dan: "It's gonna cost you $10,000." Yeah And the guy's actually signed the check and, and given him the money for doing it, whereas he would've gone down just to prove that he can. We know that from the character a little bit later. He does things just to prove to people he's the best and he's,

Reegs: And it's Sean Reno as

Dan: And it's Jean Reno as well ... and it's Jean Reno Such a lot of charisma

Reegs: of charisma

Dan: Well, he, he's, he's fantastic, isn't he, in, in this film?

Reegs: Then, out in the Andes in Peru- Yeah ... we've got Jacques played by Jean-Michel Barr or something. Wasn't it Jean?

Cris: Jarre.

Sidey: Jarre's brother.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: And he's an absolute fucking dreamboat, or at least the camera tells us w- that all the time-

Sidey: lungs as well. Every time they-

Dan: well. Every time they- Yeah

Reegs: on him- Yeah ... like, these strings come out.

Sidey: I fucking hated the score in this film. Oh,

Reegs: my God. Can we just talk about that for a minute? You go... It goes from, like, Seinfeld-style

Sidey: style- ... comedy slap

Reegs: slap bass- Yeah ... to, like, horrendous Euro synth. Yeah. And just some horrible melodra- ... Yeah, it was awful, the score. Awful.

Sidey: But yeah, they, they, they are doing scientific readings and, 'cause he's some sort of phenomenon

Reegs: Yeah. He can slow his heart to- Yeah ... between 27 and 60 beats per

Dan: They only see, like, it... I think he's only got, like, activity in his brain, and it's only like mammals,

Sidey: like- Dolphins, yeah dolphins and

Reegs: and things- Yeah

Sidey: Yeah

Dan: and whales, they've ever seen this before. Yeah. And Dr. Lawrence or Professor Lawrence who's- Lawrence Foote

Sidey: Lawrence Fox ...

Dan: yeah. You

Sidey: yeah. He's going up against Binface. Is he? Yeah. Oh

Reegs: Oh, my God.

Dan: Mr, Mr. Lawrence,

Reegs: Mr. Lawrence- That would be amazing

Cris: Mr Lawrence. That'd be amazing.

Dan: Lawrence, I presume he's doing all this kinda human research.

Reegs: Also some thing trapped down there that he's gotta go and retrieve as well, because the insurance adjuster

Cris: tractor or some- because they ask for the paperwork later, you

Reegs: and they're like, "Oh, you can have it in the spring when he's thawed." He's got,

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: But

Reegs: Rosanna Arquette turns up-

Dan: Well, she's in- Which is great ... in the insurance and she's been sent out to Peru to, you know, check this claim and make sure that he's got the information that they need, and as soon as she sees Jacques, she's

Sidey: she's-

Dan: she's taken

Reegs: it's like

Dan: just like, "Nah, nah,

Sidey: All the

Dan: All

Reegs: the strings going- It's love at first sight ... and

Dan: at first sight ... coming in ... i- for her at least. Yeah. He can ba- he can barely remember seeing her 'cause he just gets into the zone before these,

Reegs: But he's so introverted the whole way through the film. I think there's a difference between being, like, mysterious and being just completely unknowable, 'cause you don't tell us anything about

Dan: him. Yeah. Well, he, he's a... As we learn, he's, he's more fish than- He's fish than man ... than, than

Reegs: Yeah, exactly. Yeah

Sidey: He's

Dan: he's definitely- Dolphin DNA ... had you know, all his ti- all his time in the, in the water when he was a kid, the tragedy of his father, I suppose, and,

Reegs: Well, the ocean being life and death,

Dan: and a- and, and, you know, yeah, all, all these kind

Sidey: he's not the only thing that's dripping wet when she sees him.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah 'Cause she does love him to the extent that after all of this

Sidey: We see her boobs

Reegs: give up her career. She

Sidey: does some in- sh- the insurance, do insurance fraud.

Reegs: gonna do insurance fraud first, that's

Sidey: lies about why she needs... So they fuck. Yeah. You see her boobs a little bit. Not,

Reegs: see her boobs a little bit. Not at the

Dan: in this, no, not on this occasion. She's just fall-

Sidey: occasion ... does not fuck till she goes back.

Dan: just fallen in love. Yeah.

Sidey: she makes, so she lies to the boss of the insurance company- Yeah about why she needs to go back.

Dan: To Sicily this time.

Sidey: to fuck

Dan: there's mafia involved. Yeah. And then she goes, "I've gotta go back. They, they've, you know, they've signed something they shouldn't have signed, and I'm gonna have to go over." "Oh, would you do that? Really, would you do that?" "Yeah, okay, I'll do it." But really, she's found out that the diver Jacques, is doing a competition out there, and she wants to see him again. So she

Reegs: have a brilliant scene when she goes back to New York, and they're like, they just got like the least French person they could and put him in a cab with a green screen, and he's going, "Hey, I'm walking here," or something like that. And then they just fucking cut to New

Dan: fucking- I- i- yeah, that's it. And she says, "I hate New York. I hate this apartment. I hate you," to her

Reegs: gonna give up my career and my, and commit fraud for this man that I met for about- Yeah ... two minutes, yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: But she goes there, and they, and they s- and then they start getting it on a little bit. But she has to do all the heavy lifting really because he's just away in the fairies.

Reegs: doesn't say anything. And the only point that you get to know anything about him is much later on when he... they're getting drunk and he pulls a picture of a dolphin out of his wallet and is like, "

Sidey: You know,

Reegs: this is what I..." Is it- Is it-

Dan: is my family

Reegs: has a... Yeah, and he's a bit like, "Isn't it sad that a man's family could be a dolphin?" It's the only bit of awareness and sort of thing that there is.

Dan: after he's got back from Peru and before she's come out there, he's gone to the aqua park where the dolphins are, and he's given a hat and, like, a blanket to these dolphins, like Peruvian kinda gifts that you would give people. And he jumps in the pool. He says to the taxi driver, "I'll only be five minutes." He gets in the pool, it's not gonna be five minutes, it'll be about three hours because he's, he's swimming around- Playing with the dolphins ... under the water playing with the dolphins. But this is his connection. He hasn't got any kind of other human connection. His uncle we meet later on, who's an absolute loon- Yeah ... probably dementia or, or something has kicked in there or-

Reegs: dementia, and I think he's overacting as well.

Dan: He may be. But they start this competition, and Enzo's there. Enzo's said-

Reegs: This, it's the World Free diving Championships ... "We..."

Dan: And he wants... He knows that he's the best.

Sidey: It's meaningless unless he beats Jacques.

Dan: unless he beats Jacques,

Sidey: Jacques's the only meaningful competition that he

Reegs: doesn't he turn up to him with like, "Here's some money." Like, "You've gotta get yourself there.

Cris: No, he gives him the invite. He's like, "This is your- Yeah ... your sign-up papers. You... This is how you sign up. Sign up and come," and-

Sidey: I wanna beat

Dan: that he gets off the insurance- Yeah ... he says, "Well, what do you want?" He goes, "Oh, I can get a new... I'll get my car painted." And he goes, "Well, that'll cost you about 30 quid." Like, you know, he goes, "Well, get them to wax it too." But find Jacques. Yeah. Like, you know, he wants him to find Jacques and go to the f- the freediving thing. So he pays his way, and he gets him in the hotel room. And when he's turned up at the hotel and they haven't got a room for him- Yeah ... he's like, "Sorry, haven't got a room. You're not here." And then Enzo turns up while he's at the counter and he goes, "What? You haven't got my friend a room?" But they, they know him- Yeah ... and he's got all the charisma and says, "You'll get him a room. You give him my room. I'll take the princess's room," or whatever it is, 'cause they're staying at this lovely hotel. The competition starts, and Jacques beat Enzo by a meter, and he's like... And he's not even trying. You see him down

Reegs: three feet. He's go- it is... Afterwards, he's talking to him about it, and he's going, "Just that's how

Dan: he's going, "Just that's how much." He's... Yeah. He's like... He goes, "That's how much you beat me by." But, but actually when you see the underwater scenes with Jacques, he's so comfortable down there. He, he could've gone further- Yeah. No, he is, yeah ... but he's not even... It's not competition for

Reegs: those, the way they do those scenes, 'cause you start with them descending. They've got this, like, heavy thing on a wire that sort of- Yeah ... takes them down, and it's all nice and blue seas above. But by the time you get down to the sorts of distances that they're talking about... What was it?

Sidey: 400 meters. Yeah,

Reegs: something feet?

Dan: feet. 350, 400 he goes down to

Reegs: black down there. You might as well be on, like, out in space or something- Yeah. ... By the time you're down

Dan: Well, it's having enough

Sidey: trouble. But you don't beat the world record by 100. You d- you know, Armando Duplantis, you know, the high jumpers, you beat it by a centimeter. Yeah. Yeah. You know? 'Cause then you can keep going back and doing it, and doing it, and doing it.

Dan: keep going back and doing it and doing it Yeah You keep going. W- So that's what you do Enzo's 17 time world champion- Yeah ... but he's yeah, he's, he struggles to

Cris: on this- ... to beat

Reegs: on this occasion, and then they go out and get absolutely smashed afterwards, don't they? Yeah. A, a fairly long sequence of sort

Dan: of sort of...

Reegs: I think they were high jinks. There were certainly some people falling in the pool. Definitely jinks. Yeah. There's a c- there's a pretty funny scene where they drink a bottle of champagne on the bottom of the swimming pool.

Sidey: Yeah. And

Dan: they're having a competition there to- Yeah ... see who can hold their breath for longest, and both of them are nearly killed by doing it.

Reegs: It does appear to be the actors- Yeah ... doing the thing, which was pretty

Dan: Yeah. No, I th- I think they're, they're down there, but I mean, they're not filming them in real time for the 10 minutes. Do you know the world record for holding your breath?

Reegs: It's about nine and a half minutes, is it? Longer. Is it?

Cris: Longer than nine minutes for a human?

Dan: For a human.

Cris: Jesus

Dan: It's a guy, it's, I think it's a Croatian guy. 29 minutes.

Reegs: Get to fuck. 29 minutes?

Dan: it out, 29 minutes, six seconds, or something like that.

Cris: 20- 29 minutes to hold your breath?

Sidey: Underwater?

Dan: Underwater.

Sidey: Jesus, man. Croatian

Dan: guy, I think it is, or he did it in Croatia. One breath? I

Sidey: picked up- 29 minutes, three seconds

Dan: seconds. Oh, no. So I've, I've, I've overcooked it by three seconds there. Vi-

Sidey: Vitomir Maricic in Croatia, yeah. Yeah. Kate Winslet has even held her breath underwater for seven minutes. I remember seeing that- Yeah, really? Yeah. Great lungs, Kate. She has got great lungs. But,

Dan: Wow ... yeah, that's mad. What they do though is they will bre- breathe some kind of, Nice ... special kind of pure oxygen or, or whatever for-

Sidey: that's cheating At

Reegs: end of The

Dan: It's the

Sidey: That's performance enhancing No, I think

Dan: actually it's, it's only about... Without that, it's only about

Sidey: 12 minutes. I reckon I could do-

Reegs: Only 12 minutes?

Sidey: reckon I could do 30 to 45 seconds.

Dan: Yeah, I reckon, I reckon I'd be up, up over 35-

Cris: Yeah

Dan: Yeah ... 40, I reckon.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. I don't know how much, but I don't think that

Dan: But I wouldn't go long ... if I did that pure oxygen, that is. Yeah. That

Sidey: That

Cris: enhanced juice. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. So I

Reegs: anyway, they go on, then we move through a sequence of she gives up a career to go and move in with him. Well,

Sidey: she get- basically gets the damn out for the, the deception is found

Reegs: Yeah. Her boss is ... laughs it off. "Oh, what a fraud you've committed. Oh, but you're in love.

Cris: have to sack you now. Ha ha.

Reegs: our hard.

Sidey: Sh-

Dan: she hears some story about mermaids from Jacques as well, but in the next world diving championships Enzo beats the record, and he's back on top of the world. He has a party with

Reegs: Yeah, but we get- And they have- We get a bit of the competition here, don't we? Yeah. Some more comedy, and I use that loosely, with the Japanese

Cris: divers when they all kind

Reegs: The Japanese guy hyperventilates and

Sidey: and passes out in the water.

Reegs: in the water

Cris: Before he even goes in the water.

Dan: And they, they're kind of popping their head out the window every now and again, aren't they? With... To, to see, and there's a buzzer comes in. You haven't won it. But there's a doctor which says you know, "It's dangerous getting this deep now." Oh, yeah. You know, you, you should stop. But they don't wanna kinda have a-

Sidey: Mostly I think the pressure is so intense.

Reegs: I think that's part of it,

Sidey: yeah. And you're probably gonna get the bends, are you not, coming back up from those? Yeah. I

Dan: think you get the bends from,

Sidey: Is that

Reegs: too quickly

Dan: when you've got like air. De- ... compression. The,

Reegs: yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because your

Dan: when you- Yeah. Rather than free diving. Yes. But,

Sidey: okay. Yes.

Dan: but maybe when you've taken some kind of oxygen,

Sidey: cheating oxygen

Reegs: there's a limit to how far you can go, eh? Before your

Sidey: just get crushed ... you literally collapse. The

Dan: surely is gonna, you know, hurt your ears, and- Yeah ... I mean, they've got all the... a big nose clip on, haven't they? And they'll have the- Yeah ears, so they're absolute water... They've probably got a cork up their butt, like- Yeah ... you know, it is keep- Totally. He likes to be watertight. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Sidey: Watertight.

Reegs: cork up their butt. Yeah. You know? Keep everything in. You

Sidey: their butt, like- Yeah ... you know? It is- Keep everything in. You like to be watertight, don't you Dan? Absolutely. And

Reegs: meanwhile, Johanna is gonna go through, in a breathtakingly quick fashion, she's gonna go from falling desperately in love to scarily talking about babies. Why are you talking about that?

Sidey: about getting pregnant, isn't she at one point? Yeah.

Reegs: Obsessed with getting pregnant. It's, yeah, obsessed, and s- then worried about getting pregnant, and then finally getting pregnant. Yeah. And, and we'll see them, I think in this sequence just before they go to this last d- diving thing, they have actually had sex, and he immediately finishes and then goes outside to fuck a dolphin, basically, doesn't

Sidey: basically, doesn't he? There's quite a lot of dolphin fondling. He,

Dan: he goes...

Sidey: He,

Dan: he says a couple of times, "Oh, there's nothing here for me." Like, you know, and she's...

Reegs: hearing that. You've just had sex for the first time. He's

Dan: like, "I've just given up my-"

Reegs: here for me. I've gotta go and see a cetacean"

Cris: But

Dan: she's obviously... I mean, he's not done a lot to lead her on. At one point, I think in the early part of the relationship, she goes, "I'm going back home." He goes, "Oh, okay then." Yeah. You know, he- he's just-

Cris: take you to the train

Dan: he's just played it absolutely cool the whole way, and she's done all the running, and she's done all the, the kind of, you know, sacrifice to- Yeah ... to make them a couple. He's just obsessed with the sea, and even when she's been absolutely clear and obvious at what she wants- Right he's just like, "Oh, oh, okay- He's ... but I'm, I'm going into the sea here." Enzo, on the other hand, you know, loves life. He loves he loves women.

Sidey: He loves his mum.

Dan: mum. He

Reegs: his mum, but he has to hide his women from his

Dan: Yeah. And

Sidey: not allowed to eat pasta in a, from a restaurant. Oh, yeah. It's quite funny,

Reegs: was actually quite funny, that bit where he- Yeah ... they all had to eat loads of pasta.

Sidey: They do, they do a break-in to rescue a dolphin- Yeah from captivity.

Reegs: Yeah, brief, but we have a sort of 10-minute Free Willy section of the movie.

Cris: And

Dan: yeah, that's, Again, shows that they're friends and, and things, and Enzo, although they're- They're

Sidey: They're rivals, but, ... rivals.

Dan: only rivals really in Enzo's mind, 'cause Jacques couldn't rival anything,

Reegs: couldn't rival anything, you know. Well, but actually Jack has very clearly said to him a few times, "I'll, I'll always beat you." Y-

Sidey: you." Y- Oh.

Dan: When- Yeah ... when, when he starts to try to,

Reegs: you know, So th- there is no rivalry in Jack's mind- No ... because he's like, "I'm better than you."

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: "And I don't wanna, I don't wanna beat you in front of people. I d- I know what it means, means to you, but I... Yeah. Look, if it is gonna be me and you." He, he normally says that when he's had a drink or so though, doesn't he? Yeah. You know, it's, it's that kind of, but they,

Reegs: so he's bre- he breaks the record. Jac- they, they keep the he- Enzo breaks the record, then Jacques breaks the record, and then Enzo goes again, right? And

Sidey: takes it too far

Reegs: too far ... and this is where he goes too long. Yeah. T-

Dan: It's 120, 120 meters is the new record. 400 feet. And Enzo needs to beat that. Mm. And maybe he does, maybe he doesn't,

Cris: that's when they have the meeting, no? And they say, "You need to tell him he can't go."

Sidey: Cancel the championship.

Cris: You got ... You, you need to stop it.

Sidey: his, his brother's not on the boat this time.

Cris: And they're like- He's

Reegs: preparing as that conversation is going on, isn't

Sidey: The

Cris: most- And they're like, "Well, he's a 17-time world champion. You tell him." And he's

Reegs: Like The Rock.

Sidey: Yeah. He does tell him, but he's like, "Listen, do one. I'm going in."

Cris: get fucked, yeah.

Sidey: What an error. What a, what

Dan: Enzo goes down and he does get back up to the surface

Reegs: down like no man's ever gone down before. He's,

Dan: he's broken. He's dead At what cost? Well,

Sidey: he's dying. He's dying. Yeah. And he says-

Reegs: to have quite a long conversation

Sidey: you? Yeah, he's long enough to say, "I actually, it was better down there." And you're thinking, "Was it?" Was it? "'Cause you're dead.

Dan: please take me down. So he does

Sidey: so it dies. Take me, take me, take me back to the paradise city,

Dan: to the Paradise City, yeah To a depth where the body just-

Reegs: He just sort of pushes him

Dan: floats down. Yeah, it gets so deep that he's just like ch... And he, he heads off

Reegs: and he has a big cry.

Sidey: Would you not get in trouble for

Dan: Sort of-

Sidey: doing

Reegs: Is it therefore sort of- Yeah. I don't think you can just go, "All right. Fuck it. We'll just bin the body off

Dan: he, well, he comes back up, and his ears are bleeding and, and all sorts. He needs

Reegs: didn't have his cork. He needs to have a cork up his arse

Sidey: CPR. Yeah.

Dan: and the, they bring him back to life.

Sidey: They- Back to reality ... use two

Dan: divers on the

Reegs: on him, don't they? F- doof.

Dan: That, yeah. And then he wakes up in the night after

Sidey: a sort of Trainspotting-esque- Yeah sequence of the ce- of like looking at the ceiling.

Reegs: I liked this one

Sidey: less heroin babies. The, the ceiling comes in

Dan: off the ceiling. And he wakes up, and Joanna comes into the room.

Sidey: There's this, the, i- initially it's, it's like a kind of straw even woven kind of effect on the ceiling, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And the, he starts seeing that as water, and it comes down lower and lower. Yeah. It's a really good effect actually. Yeah, it is a good effect. Yeah. It looks cool. And the room's all blue, and she bursts into the room, and he's just stood, sat sort of upright, isn't he, in the- Yeah ... in the bed with- Maybe having a seizure or something because he's got blood coming out of his ears and his nostrils, and she's freaking out. Yeah. And he's like, "I'm gonna go for a swim." Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, he gets suited up for, for one last dive.

Cris: she's

Sidey: she's begging him and telling him, she's like, "I'm pregnant- Yeah ... and, you know, how can you do this?" And he's basically just- I really love swimming stone walling her- and just goes off and gets his fucking suit on.

Cris: on,

Dan: goes off and gets his fucking suit on. And he gives her the, the kind of pull cord, so she's the one doing it, and she just says you know, "By Jack,"

Sidey: Yeah Or whatever

Dan: it is. Yeah. "Go, my love." And she pulls it- Yeah ... and he gets down. And then he- Down

Reegs: Down to the 400 feet

Dan: he hears the sound of the, the dolphin, probably the one that he left, that jumps through the film every now and again, that he let back into the sea. Yeah. And he kinda just floats, sort of swims off with it

Reegs: Yeah. It's, I mean, I assume this was a, a metaphor for his suicide.

Sidey: Yeah. Well,

Dan: there is a few different endings. I

Reegs: American one that sen- has him coming back up to the surface and going, "I'm all right."

Dan: yeah, sort of, you know, that maybe he's he's evolved or, you know, that he had that kind of,

Sidey: developed a blowhole.

Reegs: the whole thing about the movie is supposed to, it's a tragedy about a man who is not at home in the sea or on land, and all that sort of stuff, isn't it? But-

Cris: But-

Dan: it was one of your favorites then

Reegs: No, I didn't

Dan: No, you didn't like this

Reegs: I d- one of the things that bothered me about it, it was on Amazon Prime. Do you watch it on Amazon Prime? Yes. Right. There was something wrong with the aspect ratio, like massively, and I actually ended up having to fucking pirate this movie to watch it properly, 'cause I couldn't watch it in that fucked up... 'Cause it's actually filmed in, like a 2351, like a really massive widescreen format, and you can see that on a better rendered thing, because the image is very central, but it, it's-

Dan: I- Yeah did actually rem- you're, you're right saying that because I remember the first time I watched it, it was. It had, you know, the black bit at the top- Yeah ... and the black bit at the bottom.

Reegs: is by far the better way to see it. The version on Amazon Prime is fucking unwatchable, and I don't... Yeah, just- I watched it

Dan: I don't- Well, I watched it. I- The, the, the- I watched it over three evenings, like an hour at a time, because it, as I say,

Sidey: It's that bad, you have to... Yeah

Dan: a long, long movie. And it wasn't as great as I remembered it.

Sidey: it.

Dan: I remembered it being a really good film. You know, just when I was a kid, I, I think you're probably a little more taken with maybe some of the, the themes of diving down deep into the water and you know, certainly Enzo I remembered as just being such this, this

Reegs: He is a good character funny,

Dan: character. And that change between the black and white and kids being, and, you know, the color section, and the glittering sea in Greece, and the white kinda cliffs, and all the rest of it. So there was lots of those bits I'd remembered

Reegs: in, it. Mm. You did remember the pretentiousness and the fucking horrible- No sense of humor

Dan: you don't when you're a kid maybe. I don't know ... and the fact that the

Reegs: character was a, just a joke. Like, it's somebody who actually dislikes women wrote that character, I think

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. She was... looked great, though, in it, didn't

Sidey: Did. She had good hair. Did Luc Besson edit this? 'Cause surely a good editor would've been like, "This is not a fucking three-hour movie." Yeah. No, not in a million years. You could edit half of the time now and you'd still be left with a fairly thin fucking-

Reegs: his first films? Yeah, exactly. You would.

Cris: he's had great films,

Sidey: exactly. It would, because he's had great films. Yeah, he's really good, Luc Besson, but this is not, this is not it. That's

Cris: is not one of them. This is what I mean. This must have been one of his first ones, if, if not the first one.

Dan: Well, it won the César Award for Best Music Written For a Film.

Sidey: Get fucked.

Reegs: I also

Dan: Best Sound in 1989, yeah. Well, this is a... César

Reegs: this is a- But it, nothing dates it more than the fucking music. Yeah. The music dates it more than anything. It's so specifically very late '80s. I also really object to the movie's kind of romanticizing of Jacques, and going, "Oh yeah,

Sidey: He's an asshole committing suicide-

Reegs: is a fucking ... And abandoning your pregnant you know, this woman to, that you've got pregnant to a single motherhood to commit suicide over your grief for

Sidey: Via dolphins. ... for your best

Reegs: via dolphins." Like, what the fuck? Why are they romanticizing that? It's bullshit. So yeah, I loved it. Strong recommend.

Sidey: Oh,

Dan: pleased. Yeah.

Cris: I don't know.

Reegs: I,

Sidey: I

Cris: I didn't like the length of it. I liked... Do you know what? What I liked was the costumes, because it was all to do with the sea and, and

Dan: the, the- They only wore Speedos.

Reegs: Well, no. Well, yeah, to be fair, you've got

Cris: Shirts and all that. Honestly, if you would take all the costumes that, that people wore, not just the Speedos, the, the shirts and everything else, and you would put them anywhere today at the beach, it would stand today and it would be a classic. The, all the colors are nicely coordinated. Everything looks nice and, and quite elegant and interesting. And boat shoes and shirts and- Yeah, very stylish ... it's, it's really stylish. The wetsuits are amazing. Yeah. The Italian- All the water stuff. The Italian ... the Italian wetsuit. Yeah. The Italy flag wetsuit is, is beyond- Yeah is beyond amazing. And the Japan one as well which is the, So there's a few things. I, I really like the, the brother, Enzo's brother. Yeah. Also, he had no sideburns. I don't know if you've noticed that. Exactly. Zero

Sidey: Very on trend. Shaved.

Cris: Shaved up here as well. The film itself wasn't great. The... Enzo as a character was really annoying, but also he was really well played by Jean Reno. So I really, I really appreciate and I like the, the fact... What I didn't understand was, I think it was, obviously it was overly pretentious as a film, but I never actually thought that free diving would be such a... He was treated like he was a, like he was Mick Jagger. Yeah, a

Sidey: God, yeah. Oh. Oh, this

Cris: he's diving.

Sidey: It's super niche. Yeah

Cris: even go, "Oh, the world champion." E- even tomorrow if I, what, if I meet the 17-time world champion, I'll shake his hand and be, I'm impressed, but- Yeah ... it doesn't mean anything to me. And,

Sidey: and like trans world sport, it would've been like a 30-second bit on that, you know- Yeah ... 'cause no one gives a fuck. So

Cris: But again, all in all, it was too long to, to care by the end. I when... I stopped watching it, actually. I never, I never watched the ending when after he goes in and the bleeding ears- Mm ... s- start.

Reegs: can't have had very long to go.

Cris: Well, no, but I was, it was, I was done already. I was like, "This, I couldn't care less what happens to these guys." Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Right.

Cris: From now on, anything... So that's why now I find out the ending. Anything that can happen from now on, even if it turns into a butterfly or- Yeah ... she turns into a dolphin, or she gives birth to a dolphin, I couldn't care less.

Sidey: No. Well,

Reegs: Well, you got to see him die, so,

Cris: yeah.

Reegs: Yeah ... but only metaphorically, I suppose, but.

Sidey: Someone that needed to have a conversation with someone else to say, "This is not a fucking three-hour movie." Yeah. It, it's just crazy. It's so fucking s-self-indulgent- Yeah ... nonsense.

Dan: do need to come up to, come up for air

Sidey: There's barely even an hour's content here really, because the characters are

Dan: Apart

Sidey: Apart from Enzo, he's got a bit of, bit about him. Jack doesn't, like you say, doesn't say anything. Yeah. He's just... And she

Reegs: smolders. That's

Sidey: she is, you know, paper thin. The characterization there is just nothing to hang your hat on. I second screened it from about an hour in. I was just like looking at it and doing other stuff. It was fucking dreadful. Really didn't like it

Dan: at all. So there we go. Strong recommend. Strong.

Reegs: Strong. Yeah.

Dan: Strong. If you've got three hours, you've

Sidey: absolutely nothing to do. You've got three hours and you

Reegs: got absolutely nothing- If you've got three hours and you fucking hate

Sidey: If

Dan: hate football-

Sidey: then

Dan: maybe watch this instead, and I bet you'll be watching the football

Cris: Are we done?