The Big Blue

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Le Grand Bleu. Oh yeah. Nineteen ninety eight joint directed by Luke Bessot, run time of seventy-three hours. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

It's a long way. It's a hundred and sixty six seven. Six hundred and sixty-eight minutes. And I watched this over I mean, I chose this, but I've seen it once before because nobody's gonna watch this too many times, but it was years and years ago, and I remember really enjoying it. But it is a long movie, and so it's longer than that, Dan. It's longer than that. It's it's a really, really long movie. It was filmed in France. Terrible as well. United States. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Are we going there already? We're going there already. Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

Well, let's it become it starts off with a kind of helicoptery drone thing, a coastal area and some nice water. Black and white. Yeah, black and white.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

It became one of France's most commercially successful films.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

Yeah, but they're French. It also starts then when we introduced some children in what looks like their underwear, and I thought, oh, I know why Dan was into this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

After what putting us on to walk about, yeah. Similar theme stuff. Yeah, you know. I think it was saying it's about something like that. And Jacques is um character, Jacques Mayor, that we meet, and there's some friends, aren't there? They're going, Come, come and see this, there's something shining in the water, and they run down to the harbour, and there's a priest there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Yeah, he's just vibing, just chilling and watching his young boys.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

A really bizarre character, yeah. Just watching his young boys in there through drugs. And he was a bit of a bizarre character, this guy. But anyway, before we get to him, we're introduced to Enzo, aren't we? Who's the sort of cocky, young ladies?

SPEAKER_03 1:54

He's the leader of the chocolate on his face. Yeah, and yeah, and he challenges Enzo challenges Jacques to get the coin from the bottom of the sea, and Jacques says, No, I don't want to do it. And Enzo, but we'd seen him, Jacques, just before split up a fight between the boys that had had found the coin and said and came up with a kind of Solomon, King Solomon type answer, like we'll buy something. You can't split a coin in half, but we'll buy something and we'll split that. Whereas Enzo, when he finally goes in, dives down, gets the coin, brings it back up. His answer is very much like the kids. You can't split a coin, stupid, I'm keeping it. Like, you know, it's mine. We see they're quite different characters. And then that priest sees the gentleness, I guess, in Jacques and throws in another coin for him to go and collect, and says, Look, there's a coin down there, you go and dive down, and obviously it's for him to keep, and he wants to return it to the priest is to the priest. And so it just gives you a little flavour of the the two different characters that we're we're gonna be meeting throughout the rest of the film as their lives are kind of interlinked.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

Um but Jack's got room for a tragedy though, because Jacques lives with his ridiculous caricature Uncle Louis and his father, who's a real dour, gruff fisherman, deep sea diver.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

This was the diving equivalent outfit of Calbin Face, I thought.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Yeah. It's one of those. I mean, Dan, I we often joke about what is in the man cave, but Dan does have a full diving suit.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Yeah, in the man.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

But it look like a half a a sort of wine barrel almost.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Yeah. And they pump it was one of those even earlier than that one, I think, and they pump uh certainly cheaper than that one. They pump the air into it. And he goes down, he was fishing for like scallops or something off the off the rocks deep down, and tragedy strikes, the air gets kind of mashed up. I'm not very sure what's enough air going on.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Something yeah, something got trapped and he sort of just died, and Jack's trying to dive in, and his Uncle Lewis is holding it back, and he's sort of crying. He sort of sees it from the from the looking, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:07

All this is filmed in black and white.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

They didn't trust you to understand that it was in the past, is my assumption.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Yeah. Um and but by the and he drowns in front of the the kind of children, and and Enzo is actually there, he's fishing on the rocks, and he's shouting. Yeah, you know, he's shouting just in the caros of it all, that noise would have been coming through as well. And by the 1980s, both are well known for their free diving skills.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

And it doesn't put Jack off the ocean, if anything, he's more intrigued. In more in tune with it.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

I mean, we've seen him dive down and feel feeding more eels. We did right at the beginning, it was a great shot that enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

I think it's it's Enzo that we see first, isn't it? Him and his brother in his Fiat 500. In his Fiat 500, absolutely up to shit. Yeah. It was some sort of I did not understand the place scan.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

I didn't know, yeah, because there's so there's a wreck.

SPEAKER_02 4:59

Yeah. Some guy comes running up, like, oh my god, there's someone trapped in there.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

I don't know if they if they sent this guy down and say, Oh, there's something in there if you can get it out or something. Because if essentially they get tasked with rescuing this guy.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

It's a really good sequence, this actually, because all the underwater sequences are really good. And you see John Reno like free dive down there, don't you, without any equipment into the wreck, going through, find this guy, pull him out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

But as it drives off, they just they're hilariously laughing, like they've they've just ripped this guy off. Yeah, I was like, but how have you done that? I know, I I think they get a check for $10,000.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

Yeah, but how had they arranged the plant? No, I don't think it it had. They've just it's just happened. It was a bit of luck. They, you know, a big score like this is just amazing because there's clearly not much going on in the on the island. Sydney, yeah. Yeah, but this, you know, the I think the the scam is they'd have probably done it for free, but his brother goes, it's gonna cost you ten thousand dollars. And the guy's actually signed the check and and given him the money for doing it, whereas he would have gone down just to prove that he can. We know that from the character a little bit later, he does things just to prove to people he's the best, and he's uh And it's Sean Reno as well. Well, he he's he's fantastic, isn't he? In in this film.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Well then out in the Andes in Peru, yeah, we've got Jacques played by Jean-Michel Jbar or something, wasn't it? Jean Michel Jarr's brother. Yeah. And he's an absolute fucking dreamboat, or at least the camera tells us that all the time. Great lungs, isn't it? Every time they go on him, like these strings come out. I fucking hated the score in this film. Oh my god, can we just talk about that for a minute? You go it goes from like Seinfeld style comedy slap bass to like horrendous EuroSynth and just some horrible melodrama. Yeah, it was awful, the score, awful.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

But yeah, they they they are doing scientific readings and because he's some sort of phenomenon where he can slow his heart to between 27 and 60 beats per minute.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

They only see like it I think he's only got like activity in his brain, and it's only like mammals, like dolphins and things and whales, they've ever seen this before. And Dr. Lawrence or Professor Lawrence, who's Lawrence Foy. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:15

He's going up against Benface. Is he? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

Oh my god, I'd love to see that'd be amazing. Mr. Lawrence, I presume, he's doing all this kind of human research.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

It's also some thing trapped down there that he's got to go and retrieve as well, because the insurance adjustments are.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Some tructor or some because they asked for the paperwork later. Yeah, and they're like, oh, you can have it in the spring when it's cool.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Yeah. But Rosanna Arquette turns up.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Well, she's in the insurance and she's been sent out to Peru to, you know, check this claim and make sure that it's got the information that they need. And as soon as she sees Jack, she's like all the strings going. Some other than staring at each other. For her at least. He can't b he can barely remember seeing her because he just gets into the zone before these but he's so introverted the whole way through the film.

SPEAKER_02 8:08

I think there's a difference between being like mysterious and being just completely unknowable because you don't tell us anything about him.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

Yeah, well, he is uh as we learn, he's he's more fish. Fish than man than man. He's definitely had you know all his time all his time in the in the water when he was a kid, the tragedy of his father, I suppose, and Well, the ocean being life and death, that's very symbolic, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 8:36

You know, yeah, all all these kinds of And he's not the only thing that's dripping wet when she sees him.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

Yeah, because she does love him to the extent that after all of this stuff, she's gonna give up her career.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

She does some inf the insurance do insurance fraud. She's gonna do insurance fraud first, I suppose. She lies about why she needs so they fuck.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

You see her booms a little bit. Not in the beginning, this no, not on this occasion. Not on this occasion. She's not fucked till she goes back. She's just falling in love with her.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

So she lies to the boss of the insurance company about why she needs to go back to Sicily this time. Just to fucking.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Because there's Mafia involved. Yeah, yeah. And then she goes, I've got to go back. They've they've, you know, they've signed something they shouldn't have signed, and I'm gonna have to go over. Oh, would you do that? Really? Would you do that? Yeah, okay, I'll do it. But really, she's found out that the diver, Jacques, is doing a competition out there and she wants to see him again.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

So she They have a brilliant scene when she goes back to New York, and they're like, they just got like the least French person they could and put him in a cab with a green screen, and he's going, Hey, I'm walking here or something like that. They just fucking go to New York.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

Yeah, that's it. And she says, I hate New York, I hate this apartment, I hate you.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

I'm gonna give up my career and my and commit fraud for this man that I met for about two minutes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Uh but she goes there and they and they and then they start getting it on a little bit, but she has to do all the heavy lifting, really, because he's just a way of it.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

It's monosyllabic, he doesn't say anything. Uh the only point that you get to know anything about him is much later on when he they're getting drunk and he pulls a picture of a dolphin out of his wallet and is like, uh, you know, this is what I'm saying. Has it yeah, and he is a bit like, isn't it sad that a man's family could be a dolphin? It's the only bit of awareness and sort of thing that there is.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

After he's got back from Peru, and before she's come out there, he's gone to the aqua park where the dolphins are, and he's given a hat and like a blanket to these dolphins, like Peruvian kind of gifts that you give people, and he jumps in the pool, he says to the taxi driver, I'll only be five minutes. He gets in the pool, it's not gonna be five minutes, maybe about three hours because he's he's swimming around under the water playing with the dolphins. But this is his connection, he hasn't got any kind of other human connection. His uncle we meet late one, he's an absolute loon, probably dementia or or something, is kicked in. He's got dementia, and I think he's overacting as well. He may be. But they start this competition and Enzo's there. Enzo's said it's the world free diving championship, and he wants he knows that he's the best. It's meaningless unless he beats Shaq. It's meaningless unless he beats Shaq. Because that's the only meaningful competition he can get.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

Because that doesn't he turn up to him with like, here's some money, like you've got to get yourself there.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

No, he gives him the invite. He's like, This is your your sign-up paper, you this is how you sign up. Sign up and come. Because I want to be your.

SPEAKER_03 11:27

I'll get my car painted. He goes, Well, that'll cost you about 30 quid. Like, you know, he goes, Well, get in a wax it too, but find Jacques. Yeah. Like, you know, he wants him to find Jacques and go to the free diving thing. So he pays his way and he gets him in the hotel room. And when he's turned up at the hotel and they haven't got a room for him, yeah, he's like, Sorry, haven't got a room, you're not here. And then Enzo turns up while he's at the counter and he goes, What, you haven't got my friend a room? But they they know him, yeah, and he's got all the charisma and says, You'll get him a room, you give him my room, I'll take the princess's room or whatever it is, because they're saying it's lovely hotel. The competition starts, and Jacques beat Enzo by a metre, and he's like And he's not even trying, you see him down three feet, he's go he's afterwards he's talking to him about it, and he's going, just that's how much you beat. Yeah, he's like he goes, That's how much you beat me by. But But actually, when you see the underwater scenes with Jacques, he's so comfortable down there, he he could have gone further.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

And at this competition. I do like those the way they do those scenes because you start with them descending, they've got this like heavy thing on a wire that sort of takes them down, and it's all nice and blue, seas above. But by the time you get down to the sorts of distances that they're talking about, was it 400 meters? 300 feet, was it 350, 400? It's completely black down there. You might as well be on like out in space or something by the time you're down there.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Well, he's having enough kind of But you don't beat the world record by a hundred. You know, Armando Deplantas, you know, the high jumpers, you beat it by a centimetre. You know, because then you can keep going back and doing it and doing it and doing it. You keep going. So that's what you do.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

Enzo 17 time world champion. Yeah. He's yeah, he's he's strong.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

He's beaten on this on this occasion, and then they go out and get absolutely smashed afterwards, don't they? Yeah. A fairly long sequence of sort of I think they were hij's. There's certainly some people falling in the pool. Definitely jinx. Yeah. There's a there's a pretty funny scene where they drink a bottle of champagne on the bottom of the swimming pool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:24

Without having a competition there to see who can hold their breath for longest, and both of them are nearly killed by doing it.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

It does appear to be the actors doing the thing, which was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

Yeah. No, I th I think they're they're down there, but I mean they're not filming them in real time for the 10 minutes. Do you know the world record for holding your breath? It's about nine and a half minutes, is it? Longer.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Is it? Longer than nine minutes for a human.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

For a human. Jesus. It's a guy, is I think he's a Croatian guy. 29 minutes. Get to fuck.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

29 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

29 minutes to hold your breath. Underwater.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

Underwater. Croatian guy. I think it is. Or he did it in Croatia.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

One breath.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

I think 29 minutes, three seconds. Three seconds.

SPEAKER_03 14:13

I've overcooked it by three seconds there.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Vitmir Marichic in Croatia, yeah. Kate Winsler has even held her breath underwater for seven minutes. I mean it's great lungs, Kate. He has got great lungs.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

But yeah, that's mad. What they do though is they will breathe breathe some kind of special kind of pure oxygen or or whatever for the end of the emiss. I reckon I could do only twelve minutes.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

I reckon I could do thirty to forty-five seconds.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Yeah, I reckon I reckon I would be up up over thirty-five, forty, I reckon.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how much are long.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

If I did that pure oxygen, that is. Yeah. That enhanced juice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

So anyway, they go on, then we move through a sequence of she gives up her career to go and move in within.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Well, she basically gets the dam act for the the the deception is found out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

Her boss is laughs it off. Oh, what a fraud you've committed.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

I'm gonna have to suck you now.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Ha ha she she hears some story about mermaids from Jacques as well. But in the next world diving championships, Enzo beats the record and he's back on top of the world, he has a party with it. Yeah, but we get a bit of a competition here.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Don't be more comedy, and I do set loosely with the Japanese. Oh, with the divers when they all kind of Japanese guy hyperventilates and just passes out in the water before he even goes in the water.

SPEAKER_03 15:45

And they they're kind of popping their head out the window every now and again, aren't they? With to to see, and there's a eh buzzer comes in, you haven't won it. But there's a doctor which says, you know, it's dangerous getting this deep now. You know, you you should stop, but they don't want to kind of have a Honda.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

I think the pressure is so intense. Yeah, I think that's part of it. And you're probably gonna get the bends, are you not coming back up from the Yeah?

SPEAKER_03 16:09

I think you get the bends from Coming up to you quickly. From when you've got like rather than free driving. So maybe when you've taken some kind of oxygen to how far you can go, eh? But the pressure literally collapses. The pressure surely is gonna, you know, hurt your ears. And I mean they've got all the a big nose clip on, haven't they? And they'll have the uh ear, so they're absolute water, they've probably got a cork up their butt.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

Like, you know, it is keep everything in you like to be watertight, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Meanwhile, Johanna is gonna go through in a breathtakingly quick fashion, she's gonna go from falling desperately in love to scarily talking about babies. Why are you talking about that?

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Obsessed about getting pregnant, isn't she?

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Yeah, obsessed and then worried about getting pregnant and then finally getting pregnant. Yeah. And um we'll see them, I think, in this sequence, just before they go to this last diving thing, they have actually had sex. And he immediately finishes and then goes outside to fuck a dolphin, basically, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_01 17:09

There's quite a lot of dolphin funnel.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

He goes, he says a couple of times, Oh, there's nothing here for me. Like, you know, and she's Imagine hearing that.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

You just had sex for the first time.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

I'm just nothing here for me. I've got to go and see a cetacean. But she's obviously I mean, he's not done a lot to lead her on. At one point, I think in the early part of the relationship, she goes, I'm going back home. He goes, Oh, okay then. Yeah, you know, I'll take you to the train station. He's just played it absolutely cool the whole way, and she's done all the running and she's done all the kind of you know, sacrifice to make them a couple. He's just obsessed with the sea, and even when she's been absolutely clear and obvious to what she wants, he's just like, Oh, okay, but I'm I'm going into the sea here. Enzo, on the other hand, you know, loves life. He loves he loves women, he loves his master.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

He loves his mum, but he has to hide his women from his mum. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

And not allowed to eat pasta in it from a restaurant. Oh, it's funny funny.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

That was actually quite funny that bit where they all had to eat loads of pasta. They do they do a break-in to rescue a dolphin in captivity? Yeah, we have a sort of ten-minute free willy section of the movie.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

And yeah, that's again shows that they're friends and and things, and Enzo are although they're They're rivals. Rivals. The only rivals really in Enzo's mind, because Jacques could rival anything.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Well, but actually Jacques has very clearly said to him a few times, I'll I'll always beat you. Oh yeah. When when he starts to try to you know, so but there is no rivalry in Jack's mind because he's like, I'm better than you.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

Yeah. And I don't wanna I don't want to beat you in front of people. I know what it means means to you, but I yeah, you know, if it is gonna be me and you. He he normally says that when he's had a drink or so though, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_02 18:51

You know, it's it's that kind of but they so it's break he breaks the record, Jack. They they keep the he Enzo breaks the record, then Jacques breaks the record, and then Enzo goes again, right? Or is it too far. And this is where he goes too long. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

He's 120 and twenty metres is the new record, 400 feet. And Enzo needs to beat that and maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

And that's when they have the meeting, no, and they say you need to tell him he can't go. Cancel those championships. Cancel you guys you need to stop it. His brother's not on the boat this time.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

But he's actually preparing as that conversation is going on, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 19:26

And they're like, Well, he's a 17-time world champion, you tell him. Like the rock. Yeah. He does tell him, but he's like, listen, do what I'm going out.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

Yeah, Enzo goes down and he does get back up to the surface.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

He goes down like no man's ever gone down before. He's he's broken.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Well, he's dying. He's dying.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

And he says you have to have quite a long conversation.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Yeah, he's long enough to say, uh see, it was better down there, and you're thinking, was it? Was it because you're dead? Please, please take me down. Take me back to the Paradise City, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

To a depth where the body just he just sort of pushes it. Floats down, yeah. It gets so deep that he's just like and he he comes up and he has a big cry.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Would you not get in trouble for sort of doing that? And I think you can just go, alright, fuck it, we'll just beat the body off that.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

Well, he comes back up and his ears are bleeding and and all sorts, he needs to have the cork up his ass. Um and the they bring him back to life to diamonds of his later on everything. Yeah. And then he wakes up in the night.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

We get a sort of transporting-esque sequence of the sea of like looking at the ceiling. I liked this one. With less than a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

The sea comes in off the ceiling, uh, and he wakes up and Joanna comes into the room.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

Well, there's this the i initially it's it's like a kind of straw, even woven kind of effect on the ceiling, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he starts seeing that as water and it comes down lower and lower. Yeah. It's a really good effect, actually. It is a good effect, yeah. And the room's all blue. And she bursts into the room, and he's just stood, sat sort of upright, isn't he, in the in the bed. Maybe having a seizure or something. Because he's got blood coming out of his ears and his nostrils, and she's freaking out. Yeah. And he's like, I'm gonna go for a swim. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

Yeah, he gets suited up for one last dive.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

And she's begging him and telling him she's like, I'm pregnant, and you know, how could you do this? And he's basically just balling at her and um goes off and gets his fucking suit on.

SPEAKER_03 21:27

And he gives her the the kind of pull chord, so she's the one doing it, and she just says, you know, by Jack. Yeah. Whatever it is, go, my love. And she pulls it, yeah, and he gets down and then he down to the forest. He hears he hears the sound of the the dolphin, probably the one that he let that jumps through the film every now and again that he let back into the sea and he kind of just floats, sort of swims off with it.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

Yeah, I mean, I assume this was a a metaphor for his suicide. Yeah. Well There is a few different endings. And an American one that sent has him coming back up to the surface and going, I'm all right.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

Well, yeah, sort of, you know, that maybe he's he's evolved or, you know, that he had that kind of developed a blowhole.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

But the whole thing about the movie is supposed to it's a tragedy about a man who is not at home in the sea or on land and all that sort of stuff, isn't it? But And it was one of your favourites then. No, I didn't like it. No, you didn't mind it. I think one of the things that bothered me about it, it was on Amazon Prime. Did you watch Amazon Prime?

SPEAKER_00 22:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Right. There was something wrong with the aspect ratio massively, and I actually ended up having to fucking pirate this movie to watch it properly. So I couldn't watch it in that fucked up because it's actually filmed in like a 235.1, like a really massive widescreen format, and you can see that on a better rendered thing because the image is very central, but it it's I did actually remember you're you're right saying that because I remember the first time I watched it, it was it had you know the black bit of the top and the black bit in the bottom. By far the better way to see it. The version on Amazon Prime is fucking unwatchable. I don't know. But I watched it bring that physical movement.

SPEAKER_03 23:04

I watched it over three evenings, like an hour a time, because it was quite a long, long movie. And it wasn't as great as I remembered it. I remembered it being a really good film, you know, just when I was a kid, I I think you're probably a little more taken with maybe some of the the themes of diving down deep into the water and you know, certainly Enzo I remembered as just being such this He is a good character. And that change between the black and white and kids being and you know, the colour section and the glittering sea and grease and the white kind of cliffs and all the rest of it. So there was lots of those bits I'd remembered in.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

You didn't remember the pretentiousness and the fucking horrible sense of humour and the when you were a kid, maybe I don't. Johanna character wasn't just a joke, like it's somebody who actually dislikes women wrote that character, I think.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

She was looked great though, yeah, didn't she?

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Did she have good hair? Did Luke Besson edit this? Because surely a good editor would have been like, this is not a fucking three-hour movie. Yeah. Not in a million years. You could edit half of the time now, and you'd still be left with a fence.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Was this one of his first films? Exactly, you would, because he's had great films. Yeah, he's really good, Luke Besson, but this is not this is not it. This is what I mean. This must have been one of his first ones, if if not the first one.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

Well, it won the Caesar Award for best music written for a film.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Get fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

Well, this is uh Cesare is a friend.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

The music dates it more than anything. It's so specifically very late 80s. I also really object to the movie's kind of romanticizing of Jacques and going, oh yeah, committing suicide is a fucking and abandoning your pregnant, you know, this woman to that you've got pregnant to a single motherhood to commit suicide over your grief for your friend via via dolphins. Like, what the fuck? Why are they romanticising that? It's bullshit. So yeah, I loved it.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Strong back and then I I didn't like the length of it. I liked do you know what I liked was the costumes because it was all to do with the sea and and the the only wore speedoes? Well, no, yeah, to be fair, the shirts and all that. Honestly, if you would take all the costumes that people wore, not just the speedoes, the the shirts and everything else, and you would put them anywhere today at the beach, it would stand today and it would be a classic. They all the colours are nicely coordinated, everything looks nice and and quite elegant and interesting, and boat shoes and shirts. Yeah, very stylish. It's really stylish. The wetsuits are amazing. Yeah. The Italian the Italian wetsuit. The Italy flag wetsuit is is beyond amazing. And the Japan one as well. So there's a few things. I I really like the the brother, Enzo's brother. Yeah. Also, he had no sideburns. I don't know if you've noticed that. Zero sideburns like shaved, shaved up here as well. The film itself wasn't great. Uh Enzo as a character was really annoying, but also he was really well played by Jarrenal. So I really, I really appreciate and I like the the fact. What I didn't understand was I think it was obviously it was overly pretentious as a film, but I never actually thought that free diving would be such a he was treated like he was a like he was Mick Jagger. Yeah, God, yeah. But but his diving is super. It's super niche. Who even got oh the world champion. Even tomorrow, if I what if I meet the 17th time world champion, I'll shake his hand and be I'm impressed. But it doesn't mean anything to me. And yeah, like trans world sport, it would have been like a 30-second bit on that. Yeah, because it's no one gives a fuck. So but again, all in all, it was uh too long to to b care by the end. I when I stopped watching it actually, I never I'd never watched the ending when after he goes in uh and the bleeding is starting.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

You can't have had very long to go.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

Well no, but I was it was I was done already. I was like this I I couldn't care less what happens to these guys.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

So from now on, anything that's right now I find out the ending. Anything that can happen from now on, even if it turns into a butterfly or she turns into a dolphin or she gives birth to a dolphin, I couldn't care less.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Well you got to see him die, so only metaphorically, I suppose.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Someone that needed to have a conversation with someone else to say this is not a fucking three-hour movie. Yeah. It's just crazy. It's so fucking self-indulgent nonsense. You do need to come up to come up for air. There's barely even an hour's content here, really. Because the characters are so apart from Enzo, he's got a bit of a bit about him. Jack doesn't, like you say, doesn't say anything. Yeah. He's just and she's just smulders.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

That's all he needs.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

She is, you know, paper thin. The characterisation there is just nothing to hang a hair on. I second screened it for about an hour in, I was just like looking at it and doing other stuff. It was fucking dreadful. Really didn't like it at all. There we go. Strong recommend. Strong. Strong.

SPEAKER_03 28:07

Yeah. Strong. If you've got three hours, you absolutely got three hours and you fucking hate yourself. If you hate football, then maybe watch this instead. And I bet you'll be watching the football.