Midweek Mention... Close Encounters of the Third Kind

SPEAKER_02 0:19

Close encounters of the third kinds. Yeah. Never contemplated what that actually means before. Okay. Well in light in that sense, right? Because Dan told me, and I thought I would Google it just to make sure. So there's the first, obviously this is the third kind. Yeah. Which implies there's at least one of the two. There's at least two other kinds. Uh the first kind, you see a UFO in the sky at close range, but it leaves behind no physical changes or evidence. No evidence in the environment. Okay. Second kind, you see a UFO at close range and it leaves physical proof. This can include burnt ground, broken trees, stopped car engines, perhaps. Yeah. Third kind, you see a UFO and an animate being, alien pilot or occupant at the same location. Okay. So this was a guy, this came from a guy Well, there's more kinds though as well. Yeah, so this came from a guy called Jay Alan Heinek. A Heinek maneuver. Yeah, yeah. He had a manoeuvre as well. And then subsequently, a fourth and a fifth kind, but these were added later. The fourth kind, which kind of should be the name of this film, is where a person is taken inside the spacecraft. Yeah. Which obviously spoilers.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

And even the fifth kind he kind of connects with. Direct conscious two-way communication. So that's the no no no no no.

SPEAKER_03 1:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

And and also telepathic contact is something which our hero in this, our main character, Ray, has plenty of that going on. So yeah, goes to show there were more kinds to to come, but the third kind of thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

That's the one we're interested in. We're not interested in the first or the second.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

But he starts off with the s I suppose We obviously get stuff at the start, but is his name Roy?

SPEAKER_01 2:13

It's no, it's the cold open is in the world.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

Roy's first one is the second kind, I think, because he gets the spacecraft burning him. He doesn't go aboard. But yeah, like you say, the first one is the French dude, Lacombe, Claude Lacombe and his team, and they're in a desert, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Yeah. They're in the Sonora and Desert Desert and they find like a bunch of fighter planes out in the middle of nowhere, which they say is aircraft that went missing in the Bermuda Triangle, I think.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Flight 1945, they're able to Again, based on a true story of a squadron of five aeroplanes that went missing around the Bermuda Triangle back in the day at Doll Island. And were never found.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

And you get it's all typical, even though this is 1977 Spielberg, but so many trademarks of his where you get those sequences of often people following tools as it like from one person to another as as it like moves around and you know see what's going on. And we see this they've there's an old guy there, isn't he? A guy is talking in Spanish. Yeah. He's got the sort of sunburn that we'll see later on, Roy. And he tells them the sun came out last night. He says it sang to him, but we don't get the titles up on screen. We have it relayed via an interpreter, and it's important because that's going to establish the theme of interpretation and having to listen to other vocabularies and all that sort of thing. So yeah. Then after that, I think we go to there's a great scene at an air traffic control center, and there's a load of guys like there's planes. They're saying there's something here and it's moving fast, and it's and they have to move them all out of the way. And it it's only the guys huddled around the display and they're sort of saying, Well, do you want to call it in as a UFO? And everybody's like, nah, nah. It's a sort of leading.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

No, they they lose their license or they'll lose, you know, credibility within their organization. So nobody wanted to actually officially put these you're a crackpot. You're saying what?

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Even though there was multiple pilots who saw it at the same time. And then I think after that it goes to the Well There's a power out. This is where we meet Roy Neary.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Yeah. Um he's called out to investigate power. Royal Roy. Roy. Roy. Uh Roy. Roy.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Is it not do we not see the the kid getting abducted first? Is he or like all the toys that come out?

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Do you remember all the toys that I think Roy goes out first and then we see Barry and the toys. In any case, there's a couple of encounters. Roy sees some lights on a kind of like a hilltop, isn't he, when he's in his his Ute type of vehicle. Yeah. And then they eventually stop, but I think immediately over the overhead and beam a massive, you know, spotlight on his car. I think everything starts to shake and go a bit crazy and the radio goes off.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

But he's an electrical engineer, isn't he? That's why he's been sent out to find the source of because the craft have gone over this town in Indiana and have turned taken all the lights out.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

It's like a um Yeah, Peter Stitch. And there's a he looks out of the window and he gets the sunburn type effect on him.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

It's quite an intense sequence. He gets stopped on a train track. Yeah. Everything goes out, and then it's there's a strange bit where it looks like he's almost falling. It's sort of almost like hovering. Everything's sort of hovering and bursting out of the really quite unsettling.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

After the planes, they found this missing ship. And actually, they Spielberg was clever, he kind of lent into that because it'd never been found, but it did subsequently get found by this deep sea diver. But for like 30 years, 40 years, it'd used aliens as a kind of potential cover for this. But it was found in I think or Florida or Miami or something. Right in the end. Oh city. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

So then we're gonna then we're gonna meet Gillian and her son Barry. He's already had a weird sequence before that before thingy goes out where all his toys come to life. Yeah. And it's done through because the kid is really fucking young and it's clearly like how old? Three years old. Yeah. So it's done through like method acting. The boy's mother is off-screen, basically. So every time all these these terrifying things are happening, like all these toys starting up eerily and the dog barking and weird shit happening, he's looking off screen with this like look of love and happiness on his face.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Well, Spielberg was opening a present on one of them. He was like unwrapping uh a present just so the kid's eyes of wonder was there. Yeah, it's like jarring for what's happening on the screen. And then like for the scary moments, he was in a gorilla suit or a clown mask, and then then he would like reveal his face in somebody he knew, and he would smile and laugh like that. Yeah, they the kid apparently was amazing. Well, he was amazing, but like in one take as well. It was like one take carry, I think his name was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Well, that's all you get, really, I think, with a three-year-old. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, Roy has this close encounter of the second kind. It's left physical evidence. Yeah, he hasn't met an alien yet. So, and then is obviously like immediately obsessed, basically, by the like some it'll become clear that this thing has imprinted something on him. So we say that Barry gets abducted. Not at this point, though, is it?

SPEAKER_02 7:35

It's really early in the movie. It's the same sequence with the toys, isn't it? It's just he just he just goes out into the woods and he fights off.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Into the the Yeah, isn't there?

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Yeah, it's just that's why he meets the women, isn't it? Yeah. So the kid just goes off and gets a carried car, isn't it? Um by the aliens running off gleefully through the cat flap or dog flap or something.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

Yeah. Well, his mum's pulling him back. Yeah. And actually his real-life mum's on the side. He's on the other side pulling him back. But they're yeah, they the alien force actually wins and she's running out. And in our house, because I watched this when I was young, it was one of those bits where we for years, even now, like I can go bah, like you know, and we all know what it means. Just it really tickled us in our house that the the mother would just scream and shout this this name like.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Yeah, Barry, yeah, it's not a name you come across for a kid. No, Barry. Um yeah, he's he's abducted, and it leads to them meeting as she goes off out the house. But doesn't it thing is that's why I thought because doesn't he nearly kill the kid? Is he coming, he's he's chasing the UFO. He comes around that bend, and the kid's just out in the middle of the road because she comes and saves him, and that's when she's he's taken after that. But so yeah, he's taken and they've seen this thing. Yeah, and they have a shared experience of some fucking weird shit going on.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

Yeah. Roy clearly becomes well, he's not the same after this experience, no, and also he's affected it in a way that we've seen parody the parodies of this now down the years, especially in the Simpsons, of some form that he doesn't really understand or know what it is. Yeah. I think he does it in shaving foam first, yeah. And then later on he's gonna do it in his mashed potato, yeah. Which Homer does the big top one.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Which is great. But we don't, you know, even as the viewer, we don't know what it is, it's some some thing that's well not until he makes that incredible model.

SPEAKER_00 9:29

Yeah. It's just unbelievable model that he makes. Well, he he starts first out with like mashed potato, doesn't he? He's literally just said that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then it comes the big kind of model.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

Because he's it's obviously becoming an issue for home life. He's just completely like Wait, but he pretty much abandons his family almost straight away. It's not hard to see like seeds of what he'd later explore in the fable mans about his own father, because his father obviously was the engineer, and in this case, Roy just abandons his family. The woman the mother take she doesn't have a lot to do, she just kind of takes the kids off to the sisters, doesn't she? And they exit out of the movie. And it's quite hard to like it's difficult in some ways to relate to Roy. Like, or well, you have to think about what's happened to him.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

It was they must have something, something in their appearance, because it's really attracted Barry, he's been drawn to it as a as a kid, you know, he's got and obviously Roy has become obsessed instantly. So there's something that they do, something that some ability that they have that draws people in. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

Did everybody make the the same kind of mountain when they next had mashed potato? It was just one of the one of the things, oh just more, just give me more mashed potato. I wanna I wanna sort of spread it on and start using your fork to make the the mountain that eventually is where the aliens is gonna turn up.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

While all this is going on, we've also got the kind of world response, which at this point is led by the UN and this guy Lacombe. And there's various things happening around the world, isn't there? There's the ship that you were talking about.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

It's Francoise Truffon who plays Lacombe, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Yeah, the director, yeah. And there's like a really cool scene set out in India where they the communication now is much more overt, and there's thousands of people chanting this kind of thing, and it's leading them through to understand that their method of communication with the aliens is going to be via music. It's the start of that whole journey.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

It's never in the film put in a an encounter that was sort of under threat. You know, like the way you get something really basic, like on your independence day, where you obviously know you're under attack. It's never it's never really made like that. No. There's weird stuff going on, but I don't think anyone's sort of feeling it doesn't feel like somebody's there to attack you straight away.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

It feels they could be beneficial.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

It's more science-y, it's more explorative.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

They don't know what our reaction's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

It's adventure. It's it's something strange to like go away with and learn from while we're well as we'll see, they've been doing this for many years, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:06

So they've come to understand a few things about us. And they do return people. Yeah, we'll get that at the end when we think about how weird that is. Yeah. And then you come back and everybody's dead that you knew. Yeah. So but yeah, we get all that stuff going on, and what else do we get?

SPEAKER_02 12:25

We get Well, it's but it th the the model that he's building because there's a crossover between just like drilling it down onto him and Gillian, the b Barry's mother, the the sort of the impact on a smaller family thing to, like you say, the sort of more governmental, yeah, bigger thing. And eventually it crosses over because this model, this thing that he this vision he has is the site of where they're gonna do this meetup.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Devil's Tower, Wyoming. Yeah, they've deduced from the musical notes that they've been hearing that it's pointing to Cartesian coordinates, as he calls it, coordinates on a map. And simultaneously, they're sort of trying to hide this from the public by like staging a sort of viral outbreak. Yeah. But then they they've actually gassed a load of animals. And it's it's we it's interesting how that media response starts, because this was the 70s. But the first time that they wheel a guy out in front of them and they're all asking questions. Because now, by this point, loads of people have seen these things now, and they're like, we want some answers. And they get a guy out and he's like, Well, I'd love it to be a UFO as well, but it wasn't. I don't know what it was, and all that sort of stuff. And then the sec the next time Roy's like, nah, I'm not having that bullshit when they close off this part of the line.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

There's obviously pre-internet and pre-like 4chan, so there wasn't enough conspiracy theorists around to debunk all that. Yeah. No one would believe anything these days.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Exactly. They just buy it. So yeah, he heads off to essentially the epicentre of what's been closed off, and he realizes and then they actually see it in the distance.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

A quite strong military presence, isn't there? So they've like keep people away. They'll just sneak around up up through the sort of They've got these two doves, I think.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

In in the little thing, and they've got they purchase gas masks because they're still not sure the atmosphere and what they might release in in kind of that first contact. Well, they see Devil's Tower and then they do it, eventually get accosted by just a group like a security team, all in hazmat suits and gas masks, and they're separated and bundled off to the facility where Roy is sort of put in front of Lacombe and their whole interview is done, even though he does speak English, it seems, but their whole interview is done by the translator. And he tries to ask him all these questions, doesn't he? And it he doesn't it's interesting because he doesn't try and deny it. He's actually more interested in like what almost more interested in, like, you've been drawn here, this actually belongs to you more than it belongs. He'll actually say that towards the end, it belongs to these people more than it belongs to us, the scientists.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Yeah, because they've actually connected and they're probably the reason they're coming. You know, it's not for all the scientists and everything who have been drawn there to learn from it. He's had these telepathic kind of interactions, these messages, and this this longing to get to a particular place that's come to his dreams and into his sort of daydreams, his night dreams, and it's just being it it was Spielberg wrote this when he was quite young. So what what you said earlier about Ray kind of abandoning his family and everything, Spielberg had said it's not anything after I had children that I would have written about and all his films afterwards, you know, they all end up with, you know, Tom Cruise in in was it Day After Tomorrow or or whatever the uh World Ends or World at War. War of the Worlds. Well War of the World becomes a better father. Even Indiana Jones doesn't go off with his after the crystal skull cut, you know, he he writes in family parts.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Yeah, the kids just the kids and wife just fuck off about a third of the movie in, and that's basically it, isn't it? We never see them again.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

And and you know, as Roy goes through Roy is Roy, sorry, Roy and Roy, they go through, he's you know, he goes with him, doesn't he? I mean, that's what happens.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

He he he goes, so he's he's kind of selected to be Roy as one of the civilians to sort of make contact.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Yeah. Well and James. That's after Roy's 'cause when they're captured. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all no, they're all bundled, they're all bundled off on a helicopter, aren't they? They're trying to send them all away.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

That's when Lucom interviews him and he's like, Oh, you've had a an encounter. Yeah. Okay. Well, okay, you can you can go.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

It's so close to doing a tight a title drop.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

But yeah. And Gillian just manages to like escape. Yeah. Hide behind a rock and watch.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Because then Well, they come off the they've got gas masks, they're on the helicopter and they run away from it, don't they? Yeah. I think there's is there another guy with them as well? I think so, yeah. There's three of them. So on the helicopters are they're gonna bust everybody out, they're still sticking to the story, and the helicopter goes off, they run off, don't they? And then as the helicopter goes off, they just take off all the gas masks, and they're like obviously there is it's all bullshit. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

So we're building up towards the big reveal, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Because there's there is this massive site, it's all kinds of fucking equipment there, and they're playing the tune, they're ready to go, nah, nah.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

I think that it's coordinated with a light show as well. Yeah. So that we do get some spacecraft arrive. It starts off with a couple of little ones and they fly around and do a little show, and it builds up and you get a few bigger ones, and then you you end up with the big fucking. You get the mother ship.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

You get about 45 minutes of that of the tune going backwards and forwards, and the craft sort of reacting and doing their own version. So they play it really fucking loud. Yeah, loud enough to break all the records, I thought. Um but they realise they're being taught some sort of you know language and this is how they're gonna communicate. Yeah. And like I say, it does go on for ages, but the it climaxes with like just this moment of awe, really, as this thing comes out of the sky, this sort of city-sized.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

Isn't it in the one of the special editions directors' cuts or whatever, there's Naruto D2 on the bottom of it.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

And a Volkswagen bus on There's also a shark with jaws. Is it uh Yeah, they've got Yeah, yeah, on the actual model, you can go and see they've got yeah, little nods to all those kind of films.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

And they had it in the BFI, I think, for that.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

George Yeah, George George Lucas, he came in and he was making Star Wars around the same percent of the same time, and he came into the set and he was like, Wow, and he was sure this was gonna be a massive hit, and his was gonna be a flop, and he agreed to he said, I'll tell you what, give me two and a half percent of this, and you can have two and a half percent of the Star Wars. And he goes, 'Ah, yeah, okay, and this one made like three hundred million, that made up like a billion or you know, whatever.' So Spielberg come out, Trumps with that handshake. But yeah, there was on the model plane, and I think at one point as it goes up, there's an inverted R2 D2 that you can see on the bottom of the ship as it goes away.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

But well, first of all, it does it does settle, you know, yeah, it settles down boots and freeloaders out.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Yeah, passengers. A bunch of people come off like the airline pilot. Flight pilots that we saw and the crew from the Like you say, they've not aged. No, they've not aged, and they're just like disoriented, I'd imagine. I know, and they're just reading out their names and like over the tanoy, which I thought was really weird because anyway.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

They did that in what was the c the other one, is it like in a silver bullet flight of the navigator, he goes back to the same p time period, doesn't he? Because he's got to go back before he's abducted, so it's all kind of new to him. Although he would have been if they'd been delivered at their time that he should have been. It was like 25 years into the future, but they had to work.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Because yeah, he trips, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_00 20:04

At the beginning of the year, he trips and he's they've got to put him back. They're saying, Oh, your your little feeble body won't be able to take that kind of and he goes, Look, I can't go back after my parents have already, you know, got old and my brother's my younger brother's older than me. I need to go back at that time.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

So we know aliens have that technology, we just come off, Barry Chuckle comes off, so the kids reunited. Yeah, so she gets her happy ending. Yeah, and they've already had a big kiss as well, Roy and Harry. They've only known each other. I think he fingered it. I think fingered it, yeah, I think you're right. And now he needs to go if he needs someone to wash his hands, so he volunteers to go on board. They close it all up first, don't they? The aliens, and you're like, oh right, is that it? Because we do see an alien, don't we? We see some ridiculous ones. The first one is a really spindly one. Yeah. He looks like someone.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

Oh, with the really long arms, yeah. And then there's another one that they made pack, they called it, and that's the one he kind of looks like, and he's he's meant to be based on the little boy's face, but actually Spielberg looked at that and he goes, I wonder if that little guy never got back on the ship. And that was the basis of him thinking about making E.T. as well, like coming, you know, five years later he made ET.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

But yeah, so the spindly guy comes out, and then there's a whole gaggle of like basically toddlers dressed in the hand signal as the Yeah, which is related to the tonal vocabulary that they've already established. And he does it back to him, doesn't he? It's like a bit like Rimmer's salute in uh and then yeah, so then Roy just fucks his kids and wife off.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

He's not thinking straight, is he? I mean we we we know for a little bit something's happened to them.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

You'd have to go though, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Yeah. I get a phone call first, but Yeah, just well, you could take this. You can't be gonna it's uh you know didn't have An iPhone, then he couldn't just call up the phone. He's just got to go with it. And you imagine that the telecommunications is a little bit defunct at the time because and it'd be the same age when he comes back, so that's fine. It'll be fine, it'll be fine. He gets on, and it's a mystery what's on the ship, unless you watch the alternate ending and the um what do you say? It was a nineteen eighties. I think they re-released it, but to re-release it they said, look, you're gonna have to so they shot the inside of the Really? I've never seen that. Yeah, it's on the DVD like extra release one that they put out five. What does it look like?

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Is it because it's always lights?

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Yeah, lots of lots of lights and sort of you know um. Well spindly aliens. Uh but he just you see him going in, you know, in his in his kind of clothes.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

Didn't know that. Yeah. That's and also that's the the other movie that we're reviewing this week has two endings as well. So there you go. Double ending.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

You mentioned a potential box office target down there. You were fucking nearly bang on. This was made for let's say 20 million dollars. And it did take it 306 million. You said 300, so you're gonna be able to do that. Yeah, right, okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Well that's that's before good guessing research does. Yeah, it it's that's a huge return.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

And also, you know something's good when it becomes absorbed in so many other cultural so many references around other things. Yeah. And um, this kind of multiple Simpsons references do you remember in Moonreaker, James Wond, the key key thought to one of the rooms is the then they had to get permission to use the tone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

And the the the uh you know, just uh the genre of sci-fi was meeting the special effects that were possible with the directors that could do it and it suddenly really just pushed it on. I mean, we'd had obviously alien films in space.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

So many visual effects, it doesn't do anything as ambitious that dates it really badly. So the ship is obviously bits of it's like, you know, like the same thing they would jump for Star Wars model kits and whatever.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

No, there was all kinds of crazy shit though, wasn't it? One of them was a gas mask. One of those Well I mean is it's not it's not like shitty CGIs.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

Oh yeah, practical years. It hasn't aged poorly, I think it's stands up.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

They do stand up better practical effects in the CGI ones. And a Spielberg as well, man. So it was quite interesting to watch this reasonably closely to watching Disclosure Date. Have you seen it? Yeah. I haven't seen that. I have seen that. What do you think? I I thought it was quite good. It's Stephen Spielberg, so it's always really, you know, good. But it's got a level. It's I wouldn't say rush out and watch it for for most people. But it was just interesting because that's this one's quite a hopeful version in some ways of what might an alien encounter might be like and the government's reaction to it. And disclosure day is a little bit more cynical in that it's mostly about emergent technology and how it shouldn't be necessarily being used for profit and warfare. And and that empathy is the power to to kind of get through all that, which is a bit more of a message for our time. So it was interesting to compare those two things together, maybe the optimistic Spielberg of his youth and the slightly more cynical one now.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

But yeah, this was really Somebody put it to Spielberg afterwards and he didn't even realise that he was doing it. But I think his mum was his mum and dad divorced when they were he was quite young at Spielberg, as you know in the Fable Mans and things like that. But they I think he worked in computers and his mum was a teacher, or she was another academic, and basically they the way that or music actually. And the artist. And then the way that they were able to communicate was through the computer and through music and this, like, you know, and he was saying, I don't even know if actually like you know, if that was just such a deep set kind of Well, it's stuff that he comes back to time and time again, and it's like it always has fragmented families and fathers who are struggling and that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

So and that relationship between the engineer and the artist, like you're saying. Yeah. Good stuff.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

I think we can put Roy Neary in a definite bad dad category. Yes, I agree. Well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

He's let's be honest, his mind has been Mind altered. Altered. Yeah. He gets the pass then. Yeah, I think so. I think he's not.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

I think he's shown to be fairly like rocky at the beginning. There's that weird stuff. He's like almost fucking manic when he's talking about going to the cinema to see Pinocchio with them.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Do you mean again Pinocchio is another one that goes through this as a as a theme, like Oh, well, there's all the religious stuff as well, because the it looks like Mount Sinai basically, and you know, the aliens are God, and obviously he's Moses.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

And the the Ten Commandments is even playing at one point in the background on the TV. So there's that all going on as well. But yeah, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

It's a strong recommend, is what it is. It is a strong recommend. Well, from 1977, so that's nearly fifty years old. It's an incredible film to be still still today. You know, as you say, the the story holds up, the the special effects are still strong enough and certainly don't detract from the fe the enjoyment of of watching it. And I love these kind of films anyway. What about aliens?

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Yes and those into them. Into them? Yeah. Yeah. Where are they? That's what I would say. Where are they? Yeah, it could be too big. Could just be too big.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

It might it may be that they're they're here. I mean, if I was an alien, I'd probably be like the abyss, you know. You'd be under the water because we're two-thirds water, this planet, and we haven't really even explored that. So there was some discovery of a planet with atmosphere the other day, wasn't there?

SPEAKER_02 27:58

A couple of weeks ago. Oh, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

But it was like we should build a data center there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Leave it to Elon. Anyway, one, two, strong recommend, Dan. A third. Yeah. Unanimous. A third encounter.