Dentists, Teeth & Pig

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No. But we are going to talk about the movie Pig later on.

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We will. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And a natural companion to pig, teeth.

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Yes. Teeth and dentistry. Yeah.

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Yeah. Heavy on the teeth. Did you? Yeah.

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Have we got an intro this week? No, no. No. This is intro view. You're listening to it. Welcome to Bad Dad's film review podcast about pigs and teeth.

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Yeah. Yeah. We had a game of football that we had to play.

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We need updates on that because do you know the result?

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I saw something in the group chat that seemed improbable, but we played yesterday morning against Grooville, who are, let's say, not one of the traditional title challengers in the league. Yeah. Unlike you.

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Although the the league is is due to be split into two most of the things. I'm not gonna I don't think they're gonna do that.

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I don't think they're gonna do that. So that was yesterday morning at 10am and kickoff. Ten's an important number, isn't it? We got there and surveyed the opposition and I went into the fixture feeling quietly confident.

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Yeah. We we came out victors. Yeah. But you just said something there, you don't think they'll split the league? No. Is that an inside information from the manager's secret group chat?

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From the Trinity manager, you said apparently they're not going to do that now. Because there's only nine teams, so you split it, you're gonna have a five and a four. That's a no for me. That's a bit of a worther. Yeah, it's not a bit of a wertha. So we won nine-nil is the crux of the matter. Yeah. Six nil at half time. It should have been more than that. The their keeper played well to keep it to nine. Wow.

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So how many did were scored in this room? Well, I got three. How many did you get?

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None.

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None?

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I get to clinchy though. I'm gonna clean nine you got. I got some dubious assists by the sta the like the dubious goals panel had awarded me a couple of assists, which didn't happen, but we didn't know who had got them, so I claimed them. Yeah, two right. Um we actually thought during the game that we'd got to ten nil. And it was only when the social committee met up afterwards and we were trying to recalculate who got the like shit. Well, I because I saw some. But I didn't feel good I didn't feel good for the opposition.

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No. No.

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There was some outrageous skills at one point. Craigier done uh a a drag back, pull back, then tried a Rabona, and this was that would have made it seven, I think, in the first half. And they really weren't motivated to come out in the second half. But we and we did have words ourselves, didn't we? Say, look, let's keep let's be respectful. We we don't need to go for the juggler here. And then I went and scored two goals straight away.

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Dan's like, listen, we'll just keep the ball, keep the ball, you know, there's no need to like run the score up, whatever. And then like ball comes to him, bang. Well we won the ball back, and Dan's like, on the dig and just gets bang notching, bang in the goal. So yeah, I don't you know it's one of those, it's hard to like get anything.

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And they I think they they missed a couple of their better players as well, which didn't help.

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They've got one like player who's actually younger and good, but he coaches a full Achilles team, so he's not really available.

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And yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna face tougher teams.

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But we played 4-1-4, top of the league, six points clear. Goal differences looking tasty, but there's no goal difference.

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No, there's no goal differences. Yeah. Yeah forward. So everybody who wasn't interested in in films and that you they tend to be. I don't think I watched anything other than the homework this week. I watched A Time to Kill with Matthew McConaughey and Samuel L.

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It gets um it gets it. Rhymed that does in the new Czarface album.

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Oh right. Okay. So watched that and I watched at least one other film this week as well, which will come to me after uh after we go around. But yeah, I did do quite a lot of television viewing this week. Okay. You poorly went. You uh what's wrong with you? I just had like a a cold and general I'm sorry to hear that, Dan. Oh, thank you, Cy. That's okay. But you might battle on. Yeah, I'm battling on, you know.

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Yesterday said to me I'll be off the wine tomorrow.

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Yeah. And and so I was just lemsips and and keeping Well you could put a lemsip in that glass of red. Yeah. That's what I'll do.

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Daniel, did you catch anything nouveau? Oh no, this is Chris. Sorry, Chris, this is Chris. Yeah. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

I've watched the first episode of the Deb the Jackal. Oh. Oh, the Red Main. It's supposed to be quite good that. The first episode looks really good. Okay. That's all I'm gonna say. It looks really good. It's with the um the it's obviously he's the jackal, the uh whatever, and he's got really hot Spanish misses. Nice. Really hot, like top tier. And the police cop that is basically trying to get him is the lady that played in James Bond, the black lady that played the 007. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. Uh I can't I can't remember her name, but she's actually no, yeah.

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I don't know either one.

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I know who you mean. Yeah, because there's some people were freaking out that she might become the new James Roger. She's she's really good and she's got that London vibe and whatever, so it's it's quite it's quite nice. But I've only watched one episode. I don't think I've watched anything else. There is a film that I have saved because it's with Jeremy Irons, I'm gonna say, or John Molkovich, or both of them. I always get them confused. Yeah, Irons. And I have it saved on my thing, it's on my Shauna Lynch? Probably, yeah. Yeah. It's about Sergio Celividake, who is one of the greatest orchestra conductors in the history, and he's Romanian. They made a film about him, which I never thought that would be possible, but they did. So I have it saved for maybe a norm or something. Okay. I did, I'm I'm a bit like you, where I I did watch last week I wasn't great. And I did watch something, but I can't really remember what it was.

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Well I've remembered mine now. Okay. It was Jean-Claude Van Damme's amazing kind of idea and and script and and performance in Légionnaire. Oh yeah, yeah, brilliant. No, it it really I don't know. I I watched the first part of it. It opens up in like Paris in the 19 sort of twenties or or 30s or something, and it it kind of just started getting into the desert for the for the lineup. The missus went to the toilet. I fast forwarded through 45 minutes of the film and just watched the last like 10 minutes of it, and she sat there and didn't realise that they'd been not really watching, and the film just finished like 15 minutes later or whatever it is, and she goes, hmm, okay, that was it. And we you you kind of just knew you could guess what had happened. Like if you watch the last 15 minutes, you know what had happened during the last 45 minutes to set it all up. So it didn't seem I had seen it before long ago, but he doesn't do as much kick-assy kind of fighting in that, it's more shooty. He is older though, so he's a bit older. But I'd remembered it differently, so I I kind of fast forwarded.

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I did quite like it though. I remember liking it.

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I remembered liking it, but this time no.

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Okay.

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Sorry? Sorry. Toy Story 5 is probably the only thing. Watch that with the Familanger ding dong. You good? It's okay. It's quite it's tries to take on the idea of devices, which is a pretty good theme, I think, probably a bit unnecessary. It's a bit of a cursed film for us. We tried to watch it and the youngest had a meltdown. We were going to go to the cinema and see it all, and it didn't happen, and then tried to watch it on Friday, and then a load of things went wrong. Do you know what I mean? So you ever get that sometimes with a thing? You're like, oh, there's something cursed about it, destined not to work.

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You watched that, didn't you? You watched about that. With Huge Jackman. Well, uh we watched up until the point where he got killed, and which is about half an hour, half an hour into it, and we were like, there was had been no laughs, there had been no real reason to carry on watching it, and it all just got voted off because it's been at the top of the watch list for a long time, that it's incredibly mediocre.

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Did you get better? No, not really.

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No, it didn't seem like it would.

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It wasn't me. I I've not seen that. Alright. No. It doesn't sound like something I watched. Unless I've completely forgotten.

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I'd heard that it was good. I heard that, you know, good things from it, and it was like, well, you've got babe. Just watch babe.

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Right. Yeah. Ah, do you know what I watched? I watched the In the Grey or something like that. It's a it's an action with Jake Gyllenhall and our very own. Cavill. Yeah. Oh, Sky Ritchie movie. And again, the lady in that film, Jesus Christ all the time.

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Have you seen the stats about how prolific Guy Ritchie's been over the last ten years or something? He must be making like two movies a year or something. It's over a film a year and directing episodes of like The Gentleman and other stuff like that. It's Mont Blanc, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

He's done incredibly well, but I'm gonna say that is really a great one. I turn it off. Yeah. Because you know when he Strong recommend? Look, if you only want to watch it for that, I I would recommend it just when she's in it, the girl that's in it.

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Just watch Wrath of Man instead, because it's brilliant. Pardon? Just watch Wrath of Man instead because it's brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Oh right, yeah, okay, that. But it doesn't. I like Cavill as well. Yeah, I know, but look, it's it's an easy watch, right? I don't know what's going on.

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It's got a bit of not tissue about I'm gonna blow my nose in a second.

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But yeah, I i I didn't wait until the end because I kind of knew what was gonna happen. It's one of them that you just wait grey sendo and but then they both went grey. Yeah. Pretty much, yeah.

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Just one blow is enough, is it?

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Or what about you, Jonathan?

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No, I don't think I did. I was I said I didn't and I was thinking, maybe I did, but I don't know. I've been watching more Barry. I've only got about four episodes of Barry left to go. Of the whole thing.

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It was good, isn't it? I love it. You got to is it it's not Scott Adkins. Who is it? Is it Chad Stileski, the guy he has a fight with in the apartment?

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Oh, yeah. When he and his daughter's like like a fucking feral like maniac, his daughter, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He like looks around and it's got a million cake boxing trophies.

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Yeah, fuck. It's unbelievable. Then they have the incredible fight. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's really good. Really, really good. Enjoyed that a lot. Right, shall we talk about teeth? Yeah, yeah. Let's do that. Hey, Daniel, do you want to give us your give us a tooty one?

SPEAKER_05 11:34

Well, the the reason I thought of teeth is because I went to the dentist a little while back, and that's an expense and I ended up paying for it today. I had to pay in two instalments, it was that kind of punchy. And anybody who's been to the dentist lately, certainly in Jersey, but I I'm I'm assuming most places across the world, dentistry is doing well for themselves. And so I I thought, right, that would be a nice subject for us to talk about. When was the last time you oh Chris, you you're like you've been determined. You're brand new. You you've you've had all your teeth sorted and and and done. So when was the last time you were a dentist?

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I had my wisdom teeth out a few years ago.

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When you just got battered by a hockey stick? Yeah. Cricket bat. Was it hockey stick? Hockey stick, yeah. School had to have a bit of dent to it, didn't you?

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Yeah, quite a lot. I lost two teeth at the front here. You just walked past to someone with a swim playground. Well, we were sword fighting. I mean, it's exactly what they tell you not to do, isn't it? It's a jab. Wow. And I'd turn around and say, Oh, you fucking twat, and I spat two teeth in his face and a load of blood. So that's nice.

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Yeah, I lost my front tooth when I was the kid as well.

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I'm laughing about it now, but actually the stuff afterwards was quite traumatic. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah, it it is. And it it just gave me a a really shit like experience with all dentists since I was like in primary school. I never really enjoyed going to the dentist. Who does though? Do you?

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No, I don't like it. And I did actually find a dentist who I quite liked, and they had a good manner about them. Yeah. And they've left that practice. And the person that I went to afterwards, I just fucking didn't like at all. And so I have to do that.

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Is this intimate somebody putting their fingers in your mouth, isn't it?

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And you're like, this particular one was a real fucking cunt, frankly. They I hope they fucking die. And I'm gonna follow the other dentist back to to where I had new practice. Which is a million times more convenient. Anyway, it's like it's like walking distance from my work. The other one was a bell roll, it was a real fucking twat to get to. So fuck you, new dentist. Yeah. Yeah.

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And I don't like last time I went in June, but I went to Turkey and they pulled the last implants in, that's it.

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So when it feels like you're dribbling all the time because you've been sort of like that.

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I don't actually mind that part of it. It was a bit of the after part, especially if you've only got one half. Yeah.

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You feel like your play face or you better. I sent a photo to Pete because he was asking me, he messaged me to say, Oh homade, how was it? How did it go? Everything okay? And I sent a photo. Well, I went for a Wii and I sent him a photo. This is me trying to smile, and I could barely open my mouth, and there was just a bit of dribble. I looked like a Do you remember when Pete was a great big baby about his teeth showing that Christmas? Where he parked in front of the hospital, this parallel park and on the pavement outside AE.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

What did he have? Wisdom teeth though, with abscess. I gotta tell you, have you ever had a tooth abscess? No. I have, and it's fucking pain. Yeah, well, they're not. We thought he was having a stroke.

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Really, it's like He thought he was gonna have a heart attack, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:42

The pain is really significant and it's all the time and it just they didn't know what it was at the the hospital, did he? It would have been the giveaway.

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He said they hurt his head and his head.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

Well, yeah, like mine here made the like it swell here. It's not yeah, it's horrible, but pulling over like that seems a bit excessive.

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Can you be can you imagine being stranded on an island as Chuck Noland was? Yeah, I could if it was Tom Hanks. Yeah. And he had that abscess tooth, and out of desperation he's got like well, he uh he he's opened up the one of the packages I guess he was delivering and it's uh it's a figure skate, isn't it? And and it it marks that kind of turning point really in his his survival, doesn't it? Because if you can do that, if you can go through home dentistry home dentistry and knocking out the teeth.

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Has he got alcohol or something to help numb it?

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I can't remember.

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I think he tries something, but it's not but you do with watching that again. There's a like a scream cut, isn't it? It just like blacks out, I think, from it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:47

But that pain is like I mean, just awful. I mean, w our ancestors and things, that would have been one of the biggest things that people died from quite young. Um like bad dentistry, teeth and everything, and and just not being able to, you know, with all the disease and pain and everything like that, it would have just ended up being overwhelming. But yeah, that's that's the one I'll I'll start with castaway.

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Yeah, I can say I went to Marrakesh in 2019, and I've seen in in the biggest square in Germal Fana, which is like the biggest square in Marrakesh, people selling human teeth. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know if you ever you've ever seen that. No. I've never seen that in my life before. Of there was a table square, the table, and they have the the snake charmers and people that will sell you kiwis and dates and all that stuff, and there was at least three of them I've seen with human teeth, like a table full of human teeth. Do you want a teeth? I'd get you a teeth. I don't know. I I don't know if it's to do with any kind of like your injuries, or if there's any, or you just put it in your teeth and it makes you look better. I honestly couldn't tell you, but there was definitely human teeth on on the table for sale, but that's real life. I have a dentist, I don't have a she works with teeth, and her character in his name is Dr. Julia Harris, D D S. And she is in her real life. Name is called Jennifer Aniston. Jennifer.

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Yeah, of course there's this the friend's dentistry connection is quite strong.

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Oh, really? I I well, I don't know. Was she a dentist and friend?

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She arrives in seas one, ep one, after Ross says he just wants to be married, and she bursts into the coffee shop, Sandra Perk, runaway bride from the altar, Barry Farber, DDS, stranded, and he was a dentist, and she goes back and fucks him halfway through seas one. And then Matthew Perry, RIP, in the whole nine yards played. He was a dentist. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So then you're nice a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Well, in Horrible Bosses 1 and 2, she plays Dr. Julia Harris, and she just wants to fucking pretty funny that movie. It was quite funny, yeah.

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She takes off her gown and she's just wearing lingerie, and she's really horny. Yeah. He's getting sexually harassed by her, like pretty much. It's Charlie from really. Is it Charlie from Southern Philadelphia?

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Not James, Jason.

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Jason Bateman, yeah, sorry. And he I will I'll never forget the there's a scene where they drive and they have to drive somewhere really quickly or something, and the police stops them and they're like, uh, we've got you on camera, you were speeding at 50 miles over the limit, and he's like, Yeah, I'm a drag racer. And the police looks at him in a Prius. And this was obviously the time when the Prius was the number one guy-in car in Hollywood for the healthiest people. So yeah, that's so she's a dentist. Surprisingly good that. Yeah, I I I enjoyed it, yeah, it was good for a comedy, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:50

I've gone for the concept of braces. Did anyone wear uh braces?

SPEAKER_01 18:54

I had braces, I hated them though.

SPEAKER_03 18:56

Yeah, yes, me too, and I hated them. So they're basically used when somebody's uh considered homely or made to look unflattering. You watched Ugly Betty, didn't you? Yeah. She had braces and she's sort of the archetype. They were the ugly ones. Yeah, exactly. But if you remember Ted, is that his name? Ted, Ben Stiller's character in There's Something About Mary, you think about the Franken Beans, but also think about his terrible, like shitty metal a hair and his fucking braces. Um, Kip, Kip Dynamite, from your favourite film, Napoleon Dynamite, he had braces as well. Sid in Toy Story.

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Yeah.

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And who can forget? I think the worst thing about braces, I never had this, but some people did the fucking like head unit thing. Did you ever see that? You'd like to. Oh, with the thing. It would come out your mouth, and you'd be like out of something like a Hellraiser or whatever with rubber bands and shit. Did you ever see that side? It's almost like a contraption.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Lisa has one.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

The great big book of British British smiles. Yeah. Uh yeah, that's Dental Plan. Lisa needs braces, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

So yeah, that's braces for you. Brace yourself for the sides. Brace yourself indeed.

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Don't we all love a musical entry? Let's go for eels. I love that band. They have Novocaine for the soul, which is dental anesthesia as a metaphor for numbing life. Then horrifically used the same metaphor exactly by Fallout Boy in their song Novicane, fuck them, they're fucking shit. That's also reminded me of Alien and the Xenomorph. There's a particular variety where it opens its comment, it's got sort of a hideous sort of metallic looking teeth anyway. But it also has like a secondary. Like an inner probosque it comes over the ears. Yeah. And then people have memorably like recreated it with a stapler. Yeah. Which I quite like. Yeah. So there you go.

SPEAKER_05 21:06

Nice. Have you if you cast your mind back to early Tom Cruise films, you'll remember him in like in his breakout films, The Outsiders and Risky Bush were per before he had had all the the cosmetic surgery and David Bowie had the same thing early in the career, right?

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You can see you can see where he's gone and he's got enough money to go and get his teeth done.

SPEAKER_05 21:30

He's got all his his teeth done and back when it cost even, you know, it was only Hollywood people getting it done uh then and everything. But yeah, his his cosmetic dentistry kind of transformed him into a leading man as well, yeah. Really. Much like Chris is is a leading man. Then I I would put in a a Tom Cruise film, that that first one, The Outsiders, just because he had such that toothy grin. Yeah, chips, I think. I think he he was, you know, normal kind of you know, English teeth, as the Americans call them.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Okay. I've got teeth, uh prosthetic teeth in Bohemian Rhapsody, Rami Malik specifically wears like enlarged prosthetic teeth, so he looks more like Freddie Mercury. And I actually thought in James Bond when he plays Marat Safin or whatever his name was. That's the tennis. Yeah, I know. But it was Safin, I think it was just Safin. Lucifer Safin, sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Lucifer. Lucifer, yeah, amazing.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

And that when he plays that, I actually thought he's got prosthetic teeth in that one, but it's actually a lot of makeup, and the makeup is hidden behind the Japanese porcelain mask. So that's his actual face and teeth.

SPEAKER_04 22:48

Was it not the story that Freddie Mercury had extra incisors? Yes. Yeah. And he didn't want to get them removed because he thought it would affect his own. That is correct, apparently.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

That is a true story, apparently. It's not it's not just a myth. He did have a an extra set of teeth, but he just refused to have them taken out because he thought Mama. Yeah. He had some babies born with teeth. Yeah, that'd be weird. That'd be really fucking weird. Like straight on teeth. Not like a full set, but horse teeth as well. Yes, yes. So that that is the one I had in mind.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

Gold tooth. I've gone for a gold tooth as a selection Captain Jack Sparrow. Yeah. I didn't watch the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, but he did Gold Tooth done. He had real gold caps custom created, Johnny Depp. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 23:46

I met somebody with Gold Tooth just this week. Really? Last week, yeah. I think that's quite unusual, isn't it? It was well, apparently it's it's it was recommended by the dentist because it's expensive. Not expensive, but it is expensive, but it is really hard wearing, and where it was, you couldn't see it, it was one at the back there. And when he was he was how did you see it? He showed me he opened his mouth. I thought he kissed him because we were talking about dentists, and he goes, I've got a gold on there in the back. And I was like, eh. And he said that he bought it just before gold prices went up. Like and the dentist said, Oh, it's just well, you've got him. It can't be like 24 karat gold. It was I I don't know. It's like it's a it's a crown rather than a solid gold. Fucking crowns are expensive enough. Yeah. But it costs him an extra 200 quid, I think, to get a gold one. But it will last longer.

SPEAKER_04 24:37

What's the the stat about gold? Is only enough gold to fill two. And some decades are going around with it in their gob. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:46

There you go. That's m that's amazing. And it comes from space. Gold. Yeah. I mean everything does. Yeah, like you said. Yeah. Just blows my mind though.

SPEAKER_03 24:54

So some other people with gold teeth, alien in Spring Breakers. That was the James Franco one where he played the corn race. Oh yes, I remember that. Um there was Denzel Washington in Two Guns. Did we do that for the pod? No.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

I've definitely seen that. Is that with Marky Mark? Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that. It's good. I like that. Yeah, yeah. They go to Mexico, I think.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Yeah.

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We've already had Chris's favourite movie. I've got your favourite movie, I'm alone, Jake Hershey. Yeah. It's got a gold tooth. And Dr. Teeth from The Electric Mayhem. Muppets. Yeah, the Muppets. He's got a down and here on the edge. And then probably an honourable mention for Goldie. Yeah, an actual gold tooth. And was he in a Bond movie?

SPEAKER_04 25:40

Yes, he was a henchman. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:42

Yeah. So Gold Teeth. Taken over from Jaws, who another teethy person. Yeah. Stu Price. Stu Price from Hangover. Hangover.

SPEAKER_04 25:55

Oh yes. He is a dentist and he to impress Heather Graham. Yeah. He just like pulls out what I was in with the suppliers. Oh my god. Because I have always been a fan of hers, especially as she's in Twin Peaks, and also really like her in Swingers. But I've started following her on Instagram.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

Is she alright or is she in Mago?

SPEAKER_04 26:25

Does not fucking age. She is absolutely beautiful still, like incredible. I just don't know what like what her secret is. She I don't think she's Mago, I don't know. That would be awful.

SPEAKER_05 26:33

Normal and hot.

SPEAKER_04 26:34

She's a real baby, yeah. Love her. So Steve Price.

SPEAKER_05 26:38

Yeah, it's a good one. Christopher Waltz waltz waltz us. Yes, I know where you're going with this. Yeah, well, he plays Dr. King Schultz, a bounty hunter disguised. This is springy, massive. Massive he's got that's it. He's travelling around in a like a horse-drawn wagon with a giant bouncing mechanical tooth on on the spring, and you wouldn't want to well, you he'll remove your teeth with a bullet because he's pretty quick on the jaw.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

We don't really know what he's about until he goes to town, does he? And he guns the guy down outside the thingy. Yeah. Well spoken.

SPEAKER_05 27:15

Django Unchained. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:18

Speaking of Grimms. I'll never not hear that and think of Grimsby. Yeah. Because that was the kit, wasn't it? The kit was called Django Unchained in Grimsby. Oh really? I've not seen Grimsby watch.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Speaking of bullets, Bullet Tooth Tony. Bullet Tooth Tony. And it's played by Benny Jones. Yeah. And he's got bullets and teeth. It does show that kind of tooth. Yeah, right. I can't remember if it's a gold one though. Because I was gonna mention it when you mentioned the bolt gold teeth, or if it's just a bullet put inside his mouth instead of a uh instead of a in is it Mad Max Fury Road?

SPEAKER_03 27:55

There's the bullet farmer and his teeth are all bullets, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

But yeah, uh Vinny Jones has bullet tooth Tony.

SPEAKER_03 28:02

Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

There's right there in the name. It's in the name, yeah. And it's a great character as well. It's it's is it is that was that the first one or was locked stock before? Lock stock was but yeah, that some false teeth.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

No, go on. You've got the slapstick of Mrs. Doubtfire. I think it was in the trailer the moment where her teeth drop into the glass and the fish amount help is on the way, dear. It was an ablibbed moment. Hotshots part duh. President at this point, Benson, loses his dentures into the Japanese Prime Minister's drink and he puts him in upside down, terrifies him. The yes man, did you ever see that? Jim Carey movie? Jim Carrey, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:44

I mean Deschanel was chicken, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

He there's like a woman gives him an old woman is coming on to him. Obviously, it's this true story of a man who's too negative, so he starts saying yes about everything in his life. Because it's Kerrant Stamp, isn't it? Yeah. Conference. Right, yeah. Yeah. And this he ends up being seduced by this horrible old woman who takes her false teeth out before she gives him a blow. He has to say yes. Yeah. He has to say yes. And a very similar scene comes in Skyfall when Javier Bardem, he's the force. Yeah, of course. Silver. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:15

And he takes his He's taking a cyanide pill and it's it's eroded his acid, it's taking his whole jaw out. Yeah, and he takes it out, he pulls his teeth out, and there he is. He says, Mummy, look what you've done to me, or something like that, and takes his, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

It agrees him, wouldn't it? It was six with you that He was good villain, Silver. Yeah. It was good. So there was that. It's actually just after that where the train comes through, isn't it? And it's where he takes his head. He breaks out from there, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:42

We watched it for the pod, it's got Dr. Christian Zell. Is it secret? Is it safe? Oh Marathon Man. Yeah. Laurence Olivia drilling into Dustbin Hoffman's gob and torturing him if he doesn't know what the fuck he's been tortured about. Yeah. And we've also got Steve Martin. I think he's done Double Dentist. Yes. He does Oran Shivello, Shrivello, in The Little Shop of Horror. Little Shop of Horrors. Yeah. Where he sort of sadistically tortures Bill Murray, but Bill Murray turns out to be a masochist and is fucking loving it. Yeah. Yeah, that's right, yeah. And where's the other one? Oh, there's he plays one called Frank Sangster. I haven't seen this one. In Novicane, it's 2001. Steve Martin plays a dentist that caught up in some sort of film noir thing. And then I've got a musical which I was thinking about using as my nom, but I'm not going to. It's the song is Montana. It's by Frank Zappa, and it's about quitting everything, quitting your day job to start farming dental floss. Nice. Which is the sort of thing Frank Zappa would do. And then I'm just going to gnom. Should I do it now?

SPEAKER_03 30:49

Do you farm dental floss?

SPEAKER_04 30:52

You can you can nom. I don't think you do farm. No, it's just mental. My nom then is going to be have you ever seen it was a kid's programme called Round the Bend? Yes. There was We did it on the bottom, I think. There was a there's a segment where there was a fictional clay animated character and it it was called Roger Prentice, the Apprentice Dentist. Alright, yeah. And I've always had that sort of play where it's stuck in my head forever. Yeah. And now I've finally got to nominate it for something. That's brilliant, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:23

Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. It's been there. Now maybe it will be free from your mind now. Set it free.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

If you love something, set it free.

SPEAKER_05 31:31

I'm I don't know. I think it was just Jaws rather than Jaws 2 or whatever. But there's that scene where there's a great white tooth that he drops, he goes diving under the boat. Can you remember that scene? They haven't identified that there is a shark or what kind of shark it is yet, and there's a a woman's f dead underneath, and he's got the shark's tooth, but then he drops it, he gets freaked out because this woman's face comes up. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The hull of the boat. Yeah, the hull of the boat. Um and and that would have been the proof that you know he needed to say, look, to get the beaches shut down. But he drops that because she's there, but he was convinced then. But the mutilated cord wasn't enough. Yeah, yeah. So there's my tooth. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Okay. I got the teeth from the Marvel's character Venom, who allegedly has an unspecified number of teeth. Yeah. But uh according to fandom, it's fifty on the upper jaw and approximately fifty on the lower jaw. So that's a lot of teeth. Run number a hundred. But it's unspecified in any of the comic books or in any of the cartoons or any of the I have been watching. I've been watching the new Spider-Man film. Oh, did you? Okay.

unknown 32:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:54

Brand new Betty Girl, yeah. It's such a shame about Venom because it's it's a great-looking character. It just doesn't translate, does it? Yeah, well, I think. If Tom Hardy can't do it, then it's a comic book, I would just say.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

But my norm will be uh 2016 thriller, Message from the King with Chadwick Boseman and Luke Evans, who plays Dr. Paul Wentworth, a smooth talking corrupt Beverly Hills dentist, who I've spoken about this one before, I actually quite liked it. It's like a police detective thing. And Jacob King, played by Chadwick Bozeman, goes to he's a South African cop and he goes to Hollywood to look for his sister. And the dentist is this corrupt dentist is at the centre of a web of deception and lies. And he does sit at one point in his chair, and the dentist is like, he's like, teeth don't lie. That guy has perfect teeth. I I've there's no flaw in his teeth. Normally you see people that are struggling, or he just doesn't tell him he's a cop, he just says, I'm someone that's looking to do some deals, whatever. He's like, There's something wrong with that guy, he had perfect teeth. So Luke. Message from the king. I like Luke Evans. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, he's good. He's good in this as well. He's quite smooth. And yeah, that's my norm.

SPEAKER_03 34:17

One of the very early episodes of the pod that we did was Kevin Smith's Of Task. Yeah, yeah. And I am gonna nominate that. That's the incredible story of just true story as well. True story, yeah. Have you seen it? No. You should. You must. Yeah. It's just being turned into a human walrus. He takes his femurs, isn't he? And and yeah, shoves them up into his nostril pouches to create new teeth. So yeah, a fantastic film.

SPEAKER_04 34:48

There was another one that we watched for the pod called Teeth. Yes. That Dawn who took the purity pledge.

SPEAKER_03 34:53

I didn't watch that one, but I have seen it before. I've seen it before. She's got a teeth in her badge.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

Yeah. Yeah, that was amazing.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Did you watch that one with us? It's surprisingly light on teeth pussy content, really like this. That's what I remember about it as well.

SPEAKER_04 35:12

Yeah. But we need another set of Nashes or a dentist if you prefer. Yeah. To complete this. Didn't even get jaws in from James Bond, Richard Keel.

SPEAKER_03 35:21

He sort of half mentioned it, but he's still there, really.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Over to you. Piggy wiggy woo. Yeah. This pig is yeah. The pig. Just pig. A Nick Cage film, I had seen it before. You had. Yeah. Right. And we were watching this this week. You can watch this too on Channel 4? Channel 4.

SPEAKER_05 35:54

It was written by Michael Sanofsky and directed by him.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

His day his debut. Yeah. Yeah. And it features, among others, Nicholas Cage and Alex Wolfe, who was in Hereditary, which I'll probably nominate on the pod before this.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:11

Right.

SPEAKER_05 36:11

Well Cage is your basic truffle hunter. He lives in the He is really basic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:18

We don't know anything about him. He looks like he lives out in the sticks. Like homeless. Particularly bothered about his personal hygiene, let's say.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Well, for I mean, when later when we meet Amir, he'll just go.

SPEAKER_04 36:31

So I bet he sticks.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

His hands are always clean. I always look at it.

SPEAKER_04 36:34

Well, he he still can cook. You see him prepare some food, you're like, oh right, okay. Well, because it's divided into chapters.

SPEAKER_03 36:39

Part one is called menu, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 36:41

Truffle, mushroom, it's divided into sort of menu courses, isn't it? Yeah. And we just get to see him go out and he finds a great big fucking truffle. Yeah, with his pig. And it looks beautiful as well.

SPEAKER_03 36:52

It's right out in the Oregon Forests. Oh, the whole set of pig or just the whole setting.

SPEAKER_05 36:56

No. The pig is green. His name is Robin Feld. The pig. And yeah, he he we didn't know this right from the beginning, but he was a renowned chef. Yeah, that's not given to us until much later. Yeah, it's 90 minutes long.

SPEAKER_04 37:16

But he's he's g he gets these truffles. Obviously, we know that that these things are extremely valuable. Especially if you get bite truffle. I find truffle, I don't mind it necessarily when it's like that and grated on food, but when you get it and it's I don't know, I think they do stuff and it's I just find it overpowering sometimes. You get chips with parmesan and truffle, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

I don't like that. He's finding massive ones with his pig. They go out and you know he feels it in the wind and he's sniffing at and the pig's taking him and he digs up this massive bit of truffle.

SPEAKER_05 37:46

Gets a little bit of dirt and he they rubs it and you know it and everything, and they're deep in the Oregon forests, and and his pig, which he calls Pig, he's brilliant at f at finding him. And you can see that it's like a pet to him, isn't it? I mean, he's he's like a dog at some point. Sort of, but he he hasn't named it, has he?

SPEAKER_03 38:05

No. And he doesn't really talk at all. I mean, this is the least mega performance that Nick Cage will ever make.

SPEAKER_04 38:10

You can see though that when he we don't see it straight away, but later on when he goes to sleep, you can see there's a bed, like there's a pig bed like next to where he's must share the same space as him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:22

He lives inside with him. He he talks to him as well. He goes, Good night, what you what's out there, you know, this and noises, just get the sleep and it and everything. And he's selling the truffles exclusively to Amir, who's Edge Lord, he he's yeah, just like he's a young guy, he's really performative.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

He turns up in this brash yellow Camaro sports car and he's listening to this kind of it's like a crash course through classical music so that you can educate yourself in all the principles of it. Yeah. And he comes to buy the truffle and it's almost like a drug deal. They don't he doesn't really talk to him, it's sort of done all kind of clandestiny.

SPEAKER_05 39:01

Well, he would much rather him call and say, Have you got some truffles? I'll cut but he's just he's like the unibomber, he's just got nothing going on in the in the in the hut, batteries in the radio that get taken out.

SPEAKER_03 39:16

Well, that's important actually because he goes to listen to a tape. Tape? Fucking tape. It made me really nostalgic thinking how long those CDs are booming now as well, so it won't be long before tapes are back. Yeah, so C90s or whatever they were. It was a tape of it. Well, I think it's pretty obvious to work out. I mean it there was no his daughter, isn't it? No, it's his wife's starting to sing, but he shuts it off, he can't listen to it, takes the batteries out, puts it back on the shelf. Yeah. And then the pig comes to him and he says, I'm okay.

SPEAKER_05 39:43

Yeah. And well, one night he's attacked by someone.

SPEAKER_03 39:49

He's just woken up to hear squealing and the pig being taken off.

SPEAKER_05 39:52

Yeah, well they they beat they hit him over the head with a heavy iron frying pan, and he wakes up on with a load of claret all over him, load of red, everything. He's actually like physically stuck to the floor by the pig. Yeah, that's it. And he's never cleans himself up with matted in his long hair and everything, and he starts up his car, he feels like petrol, takes him a little bit of time, and he ends up walking into town and go ask him for Marge. Marge. And the woman says, But you've been dead ten years, Marge. He's a little bit out of touch, maybe. But he he's got a number and he starts using his contacts because he needs to find his pig.

SPEAKER_03 40:32

Well, he's only really got one contact course, and that's Amir. And Amir sort of is reluctant to help. So I can't be taking you around towns.

SPEAKER_04 40:45

Well, you know how like the giveaway that anyone's a chairman is they wear fingerless gloves.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

I'm sorry, but that is like ultimate hobo wear. Yeah. Fingerless gloves. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, he must stink, he's in this nice car. That is a good thing. I mean, it's not really an odd couple thing because Cage is so taciturn, so subdued, he barely says anything in this, but he will not listen to the self-help on the radio. Turn that off.

SPEAKER_05 41:08

And he goes also to to see some other kind of.

SPEAKER_04 41:12

We still don't know at this point, though, that he used to be a big deal. No, no, we don't. It's not until the cyclo.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

It's kind of obvious that there is to Amir at least something that's driving him on. But yeah, he goes to see this guy, Edgar.

SPEAKER_05 41:22

Well but before that, he goes to to see the the lady who's selling he goes, have you heard have you heard about you know anybody purple car or something? No, she's got no time. He goes, They he stole my pig. They somebody stole my pig. And she's like, What's everything then and goes, that motherfucker, those motherfuckers. And she's got a good idea who might have done this and it's local kind of junkies. Junkies living in a trailer park. And they kind of admit to it but said, Look, so did it for the money.

SPEAKER_03 41:58

We don't have the pig anymore. They were doing it under orders of this guy, Edgar, which is what takes him into the city.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

And then it gets into this bizarre, like it's almost like the kumite or like underground.

SPEAKER_04 42:10

It's a it's a it's a condemned like old ho hotel because he says he says, Oh, we need to go to the blah blah blah hotel. The poor report. And I mean it's like, it's been fucking been gone for like 30 years. And he's like, no, no, and he's like finds the super passageway. Going underneath. And he's like, this is just chefs only, yeah. Restaurant. Service workers, basically. Waiters and waiters and it's just a fight club. And you're like, fuck. Yeah, it probably is. But it's not, it's not even really a flight club.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

You pay to beat somebody up, basically.

SPEAKER_04 42:36

How long you can last before you get knocked out or something. Yeah. Oh, you lasted 12 seconds, that's $500. You know, fucking hell.

SPEAKER_03 42:42

Because Edgar, when he goes, Nick goes to meet Edgar, who's obviously somebody he knew, sorry, Rob and Robin is his name. He goes to meet him and he won't give him any information, but he knows that he'd runs this underground fighting thing. So he goes and has puts himself out on the floor and he gets absolutely pasted by this guy for for ages. By this really short guy as well. Yeah. It looks like Michael J. Force to me. Yeah. Without the Parkinson's. Yeah. And he'll spend the rest of the movie walking around with his face just absolutely bad. Doesn't tied himself up ever.

SPEAKER_05 43:14

No, really never. Still got blood from the first one. Blood from the frying pan over the head. Still m blood just matted into his hair and everything. And he writes down his name, and we we kind of hear, see where the crowd acknowledge. It's Marco Pierre Wise. Robin Fell. Yeah, it's like Gordon Rambo. It's like John Wick.

SPEAKER_03 43:33

He's like the John Wick of without the revenge action-y stuff. But his name carries that kind of weight in this world.

SPEAKER_05 43:41

And and Amias kind of realises who the hell he's dealing with here. This is, yeah, the the greatest chef Portland has ever known. This is somebody who is international. Sounds ridiculous. Yeah, it does. It does.

SPEAKER_03 43:55

Well, the the absolute climax of this movie where he cooks the guy to to well, there's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:01

So yeah. Well he ri he Amia kind of eventually takes him home and he's got a nice apartment and he he brings him there and he sleeps on the couch and he over breakfast in the morning he's talking about his parents' marriage and things and how that was awful and they always fought. But one time one time they went to a restaurant and they came back and had a really lovely meal and they talked about it for years afterwards and it was their that one happy memory he had as a kid and that was months before his mum died before suicide or something. He says that's what he says. He says she's killed herself, but she hasn't.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

Yeah. But yeah, and that was cooked by Robin. Yeah. So obviously, and it's quite you know, you sort of get that that thing of food being quite transformative sometimes. It's a thing you do three times a day, often it's just fuel or whatever, but sometimes it's something else. Um and it was for the for him and his parents. So anyway, he's still on the trail of the pig, and the trail leads him to this restaurant, Euridici.

SPEAKER_04 45:06

Well you guess they have to like get a reservation. Yeah. So they have to go to this butcher guy or the wholesaler of meats, and he's like, You've got mad ins, I remember him saying, You've got mad ins. Can you get us into the you know, we need a reservation? He's like, No. Get a fuck, no chance. I'm not gonna if you know, it'd be a real he'd be pulling some serious strings to get into this place, and he's like, Yeah, but it's for Robin Ficks. Robin Phelps. Robin Thick. And he's like, he's you know, everyone stops in their chair. As soon as he hear his name, they're like, Oh my god. Yeah. And it cuts to the like him looking completely homeless in this like madfine diamond.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

It's just a high-end restaurant. And they're kind of with like smoked, bulbed, yes, you know, super, super pretentious kind of flesh.

SPEAKER_05 45:49

Yeah. And he yeah, he's still got like sticky, bloody They would not have allowed him in the room.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

No, which wouldn't. Like, no matter who he is. Anyway, he they says I want to speak to the chef, so this guy can this is my favourite bit of the movie. I loved this. He just fucking humiliates this guy. He doesn't really humiliate. Well, he just sort of takes him down. He just like, I sacked you. Like, you overcooked the pasta.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

He says, Oh, I worked for you, and he said, Well, I I fired you. Yeah, he's got you overcooked the pasta. And what did I tell you?

SPEAKER_04 46:14

What did I tell you at the time? Like, live your live your truth. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:18

But mostly he deconstructs his life. He's like, you know, I know you're not happy making this food. The guy almost has a breakdown on the table. He was sort of saying it's nothing wrong with the food itself, but this is soulless. It doesn't matter. You had a dream for for b making scotch eggs in a pub, and this is what you're doing now. And he's trying to defend it and sort of but you can see more agitated.

SPEAKER_05 46:40

Pours himself a massive glass of wine and downs it. He's like trying to hear knowing as that this guy's seen into his soul.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

It's mostly the film's thesis about do what you love. Yeah. Pigs. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:55

So I think pretty much then they find out that it's for Samir's dad.

SPEAKER_03 47:01

Well, first of all, you find out he doesn't need the pig for for the truffles. Yeah. So you can't doubt that. And that's when Amir and again it's not very been been very concealed, the f the idea that it might be Amir's dad has already been alluded to being in the Well they're rivals, effectively.

SPEAKER_04 47:17

He's like, Oh, that restaurant that they've gone to, that's your dad's patch. Exactly. I'm not selling there, I'm just going there to meet someone, but you're going, well, it's obviously the old man.

SPEAKER_05 47:27

He loves that pig, that's why. So yeah, it was all he fucks the pig. He just loves the pig. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

It's a proxy pig. It's a natural love.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

So it's all orchestrated by Darius, which is Amir's father, and he goes off to his house to confront him and he offers him a load of money, 15,000. Darius is Bradley Whitford, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 47:50

Is it Bradley Whitford? Was it? Yeah, I don't think it was.

SPEAKER_04 47:54

He used to this guy used to be in Chicago Hope. No, he's not that guy. I like Bradley Whitford.

SPEAKER_05 47:59

Oh, because he he's he comes up with, hey, everybody Bradley Whitford here.

SPEAKER_04 48:10

A poor man's Bradley Whitford. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Yeah, he just offers him money to say basically. $25 away, you're not getting the pig.

SPEAKER_03 48:17

He says kill the pig before I give it back to you or make bacon out of it. That's what he says to me before I give it back to you.

SPEAKER_05 48:24

Well, he gives Amir a list of items and he says, Look, use my name, get this, get this, get this, get this, and it a shopping list of things, and he is he's gonna do what he does best and he's gonna cook his way out of this situation.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

It sounds ludicrous.

SPEAKER_05 48:41

I know the emotional climax of this movie cooking the way he goes to visit his former baker for a salted baguette. We never even see her face, it's just shot from miles away. And he he kind of guides Amir as they prepare the same meal that he made and he referred to earlier in that one meal that he cooked for his mum and dad years.

SPEAKER_04 49:08

Amir's been to see his mother, we know that it was a lie, she wasn't dead, but we don't see her because he's just support he just whispers to her through. I wish Dad would just let you die. Yeah. Maybe she's attempted to kill herself. And he's kept her alive. And hasn't it hasn't worked.

SPEAKER_05 49:21

But Nick Cage Robin Feld remembers each and every customer and meal he's ever had in all the years of food food auditing them. I can't remember what I had for lunch. And including like the wine and everything. And then so when they sat down at the table and he said, Look, I'm gonna cook you, he he has one sip of the wine, and he's like, hmm, that's motherfucking good. And then he has one bite of the food, and obviously the the memories come flooding back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:51

And this is like at a rechange de Tom Perdue, where he bit into a bit of cake or whatever, and he reminisced about his childhood. He wrote a book about it, Proudston. This is this similar sort of thing, the meal brings him back. It is the emotional climax of the movie, really is it brings him to tears.

SPEAKER_05 50:08

Well, he he confesses that he hired the junkies and they mishandled the pig and it's dead.

SPEAKER_03 50:13

But he's vulnerable when he confesses, he volunteers that information out of it. Like he's he's been broken by the mimic. Well, it breaks cage, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:21

And it breaks cage. He he he goes down like William Defoe in the platoon, doesn't he? Yeah, the high pitched he drops to his knees and he's like, no.

SPEAKER_03 50:32

The junkies were too rough, they killed it on the night of the burglary or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 50:36

Who would have thought junkies been too rough while nicking a pig?

SPEAKER_03 50:39

She was dead before he even started looking.

SPEAKER_05 50:42

Yeah, and he he kind of wishes part of him that he'd never have started looking because then maybe it would have still been alive in some way, shape, or form, but in his mind.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

I still thought after this I still thought that oh it'll turn out that'll be a lie.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

It'll turn out to be I thought could've been spoiler alert, it does dead.

SPEAKER_05 51:02

Does the pig die dot com. And he he kind of Amir drops him back to that same diner where Marge worked ten years ago and is obviously a a few clicks from his unobomber hut in the in the woods.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

Also importantly, Amir turns off the classical music himself this time. He doesn't need to. He's either earned his father's approval. I couldn't work this bit out. I know he's doing it because Robin had been turning it off, but also he's either earned his father's approval or he doesn't care about it.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

He's no well, I think he's gonna just be true to yourself. That's what Robin's been telling him the whole time. Yeah. When he like has a does the number on that chef, he's like, This is bullshit, you don't want to do this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:42

If you want to listen to fucking Smash Mouth or fucking whatever, it's just and and and thankfully the bit that we've been waiting for most of the the film, he he goes to the the lake or the river and washes his face right at the end there. Finally a little bit of water. And and then he goes back and plays that tape he puts in the batteries and it's his lorry. The the white yellow lorry yeah, red lorry, yellow lorry, recording herself singing I'm on fire by Springsteen.

SPEAKER_04 52:14

Yeah, but Anderson Springsteen, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

So he's moved on in the same way that he was able to help Darius eventually let go of the past in some way. Adam Arkin is yeah, so does Pig, so does Robin. But yeah, sort of unsatisfactory ending, really, in many ways, you know, there's no catharsis, he doesn't get the pig back. Any pig doesn't even go and get a baby pig afterwards. There's a little squeal at the after the end credits and the noise of some digging. So if you listen, that he's got a new pig. Or maybe he turned into it. Uh but yeah, and I I felt a bit like bothered by how unsatisfactory the ending was when I first watched it, but then I was a bit like, that is a bit what life is like. It doesn't always end with you getting your pig back. So and I I did really enjoy the bit. The scene in the middle is really brilliant in the restaurant.

SPEAKER_04 53:09

That's my favourite bit of the movie by Minnie Mars. I couldn't wait to watch that again because I'd seen this before. When he I think he does kind of humiliate me a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 53:17

He was brilliant, Derek, the the the chef who just stood the kind of taking it all and his his world kind of crumbling as he realizes his hero's here and he he he more than remembers him. He knows everything about him and he's calling him out for this pretentious kind of restaurant that he's he's running, albeit successful. It's like, are you happy? Is this real?

SPEAKER_03 53:42

I think he calls it like a performance, doesn't he? He says, You're performing, and so are the people who eat here.

SPEAKER_05 53:46

Yeah. And they're not real.

SPEAKER_03 53:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

None of them is real. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:50

It's like There's a lot of that, none of it's real, none of it's real.

SPEAKER_04 53:53

I felt a bit like that. I used to be like quite a foodie and would like all that hess and stuff. But then when we went to the because Chris and I went to the Fat Duck, I've sort of come full circle with it, and I just think.

SPEAKER_03 54:06

Yeah, the missus went there and said it was shit. But we have been to other places that are high-end and extract. I just want to have I have really enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_04 54:15

I used to watch there was a series on the beep called Grumpy Old Men. Yeah. And you'd have various people on it. And I remember Will South was on there once and he was talking about food, and he's like, it's just a shit way to happen. Like, don't get all fucking pretentious about all this mist and fucking glaze and the shit. Like, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 54:31

It's just I know, but I think people are missing the point. Well, if you do something so often, you might as well sometimes celebrate it or do it. And then it has so many important cultural traditions as well. Like that's just that's just more though.

SPEAKER_04 54:43

It's all tied in with it because this is all I find fine dining is just too pretentious and wanky.

SPEAKER_03 54:47

It just I like some of it. Long Clumin, the late district, was fucking amazing. That was like a one of those really wanky, like 17 course type affairs, and it was stunning, amazing. But some of it is is complete bullshit as well.

SPEAKER_05 55:02

I had some spicy Thai malls on a street in Bangkok, and it's still the meal that I just think back to and I go, wow, I just want that again.

SPEAKER_04 55:11

And well, I did enjoy Cajun this being a bit more, well, quite a lot more reserved than head back. I would have liked to have seen him get his pig back, I must say, I would have liked to.

SPEAKER_03 55:21

It's not the like the concept lends itself to being memed. Yeah. Like, oh, Nick Page in a revenge movie to get his pig back, and it's just nothing like that. It's like a parable.

SPEAKER_05 55:32

I thought he might have been going John Wick at one point, you know, when you see him The Fight Club. I was like, oh, now things are warming up. But it doesn't get to that, and it it is all understated, and he uses the power of cooking to make this absolutely crumble. He does, he does. And I actually it's I liked it. I I thought this was, you know, at 90 minutes, it was it was a sweet spot time-wise, it didn't it didn't run too far. There were some interesting characters. The girl who just dropped everything to go those motherfuckers you don't see her again through the film.

SPEAKER_03 56:07

And for some reason, when he said, Oh fuck Seattle, really made me laugh.

SPEAKER_05 56:11

Yeah, and there there was a a few kind of laughs in there as well. It did go a little bit weird when they're moving furniture to go down into the basement to get inside Fight Club and everything. But you it doesn't linger too long on any of those scenes, really. They they move on and it all just goes through to the point where he has you know realised how pretentious, I guess, the l world that he was living in was, and a lot of it dropped out when his wife died, I guess. Well, that's when he stopped, he abandoned being a chef, he stopped. He didn't care anymore, and the the simple life with uh a pig in the in the woods was giving him as much happiness as as anything else, and and maybe it was also a little bit of unreality there because he he eventually plays that that music, doesn't he, that he couldn't listen to.

SPEAKER_03 57:09

And so it's today called deciderate, which is a yearning for things as they once were. Right. Which is a sort of a bit of a description of this movie in some ways, with the you know, the looking back at the past or letting go of the past that Darius and Nick Page's character have to do.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

How'd you feel about it, Chris? It wasn't too bad, it was the right length, and I it was nicely shot. I do like the dim, like that that kind of dark, the the dark camera. It's quite brown, isn't it? Colour, yeah, the way they filmed it everywhere in the city and in the night, in the forest, everything. I like that. For me, there's these these these points. I fucking hate chefs. I wish they all died tomorrow. And the point being is that anyone that is anyone that ever speaks to me about chefs, they should spend a fucking week with them, working with them, then to tell me that these guys are amazing. No, they're not. They're alcoholics, most of them are drug addicts, they don't wash, they're dirty, and they stink. And if you tell me otherwise, you've never worked with them in a in a constant 25 years spell like I did. And also, the problem I have with this is if you're gonna tell me that a chef will remember anyone's food, where did you work? Even in an open kitchen, you rarely see the customers, you never know their names. I've been to high-end restaurants, you never know their names. No, you it doesn't I worked in high restaurants, I worked in shit restaurants, you never know their names. If you're a chef, you can care less. You look at the order, you speak to the waiter, and that's it. Oh, who is it? It could be Obama or Osama at the table. You can give a shit. You just want to go, smoke your crack pipe and go home. That's all you want to do as a chef. As an aside, but I I did understand the whole idea of it, and and it was it was a nice thing. There was another thing that I couldn't really understand. I can't remember what it was, but it wasn't really important. It's a breeze, it's 90 minutes, it's very quiet. So if you if you want to go and cook something, or if you want to go while this film is on, you're not really missing out on any action. So, yeah, in a way, going back to what you were saying earlier about the Legionnaire, if you're gonna watch this film for 20 minutes, the pig is gone, and then you go for the last 20 minutes and you watch that he's dead. You see the fact that a pig is dead, you're not getting it back, he cries, that's good enough. You're not you're not missing out on anything. He barely speaks. You're missing his superpower cooking.

SPEAKER_04 59:42

You will miss the probably the best scene in the movie though, like he said in the bit with the talking to the So there's a f there's a thing coming out on the BBC which is called The Rise of the Rockstar Chef. Um and it's got my homeboy Marco Pierre White and Hester Blumenthal, and it's made by Gordon Ramsay, it's obviously got Gordon Ramsay, and it's them three talking about, you know, because they're all three star chefs, right? And then it's come out this week that when the production company reached out to Marco Pierre White, they're like, Oh, we've got Jamie Oliver's gonna be in it. He's like, Well, I'm out then. What do you mean? He's like, Well, you ain't got three stars, so no. And he's just like I just love Oliver so abrupt. He's like, Well, listen, the guy's good, he's you know, he's worked hard and you know he's got a lot of people cooking, whatever. But if you want to do a programme about us with another three stars, then he can't be in it. And then they like next day phone back and said, Alright, he's out. Do you want to be in it? He's like, Yeah, okay. Alright. There you go. So that's not relevant to the movie. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:43

That's why I talk about the chefs.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:45

It's not relevant to the movie, but I do like Mark and Pierre White. I enjoyed this. I would give it a bacon recommend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

Is it did it make money? I I thought it was awards.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:57

It came out just after COVID. Did it bring home the bacon? It's its budget was three million. I can see that this would struggle to find an audience. I think a million of that went to the pig. Probably broke even. It took 4.6 at the box office.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:13

He was mauled by the pig. Nick Cage was. He was beaten twice by the by the pig. And it one of the injuries that he suffered that he's walking around with odd film is from the pig.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:21

Because doesn't I want to say Mason Verger in gets eaten by pigs? So with a bit of marketing, maybe they made a little bit of money because they probably didn't market it that heavily.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:31

I remember them marketing it as if it was a revenge action thriller. The poster looks like that. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

And the trailer looks a bit like that. Yeah, it does. It keeps going everywhere. I won my pig, where's my pig? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:43

Like basically John Wick with the dog or Liam Neeson with his daughter, this Nick Cage with the pig, but it's not that at all. No, it's not. Yeah, bacon he recommends. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:58

Dan's week, done. Yeah. Okay. Wow, what a week.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:04

Teeth, pigs, and murders. And Korean murders, serial killers, yeah. Decent. It was yeah, and a mixed. A mixed week. I think that takes us on to Christmas.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:18

Do you know what we're gonna watch already? Is it?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:22

Now that I've spoken about it twice. Right? As in King Charles. No. You've had a message from him? No, I haven't in a saucy fingers. No, not from him. It's a film that I spoke about in the the top five.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:37

Okay. Right, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:38

It's 2016, I'm gonna say. A message from the king. I'm gonna say something else similar. Did we ever do top five kings? King Week? Yeah. Ledley. I might do I might do something. Something else to do with the king. It's 2016. Yeah. Yeah, 2016. I might do something else with the king and top five kings if that's do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:00

That sounds a royal week. Do it. All that remains is to say Sadie's signing out.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

Reese has left the building. A lot of a delay. Sounds gone.