12 Angry Men

12 Angry Men

Sidey: [00:00:00] Is there an intro?

Reegs: No

Sidey: Just going for it? Yeah. I- There should be an intro ... I wa- I started watching, 'cause I know we're not doing a full episode, but I did start watching Masters of the Universe.

Reegs: the Universe. Oh, right. How's that?

Sidey: Really camp. Okay. I haven't got... Well, I've got to Skeletor and stuff. Yeah. But it's really long.

It's two and a half hours long, so I've got- It's excessive ... quite a lot left. Yeah, really excessive. There's loads of fisting gags, which seems strange. And

Dam: that seems, yeah, a bit inappropriate.

Sidey: yeah. So that's what I've been doing. Okay. Mm.

Reegs: Just

Dam: yeah. So that's what I've been doing. Okay. I just thought we should all come out arguing then, and there would've been, like, four

Reegs: won't do that.

Dam: Oh, right. Well, don't bother then. But I think that would've been a better start. What'd you think, Chris?

Reegs: I,

Cris: I was gonna argue with you because you thought you knew what I was gonna say, and- Yeah.

Well, I- ... it was completely wrong. All right.

Dam: Well- You... Well, what, what were you gonna say?

Cris: the fact that you write all the intros, it's not really all about you, Riggs.

Dam: Oh. So. What were you gonna say? 'Cause I, I wasn't interested

Cris: say that I did watch this film, [00:01:00] obviously. Mm.

And I was ... I'm pretty convinced I watched it before. Right. However, I don't really remember all of it, but I do remember bits of it, so I wasn't gonna say that I think someone or someone might not be guilty. All right. I think it was.

Sidey: he was.

Reegs: was.

Cris: it was more the fact that ... It was more the fact that I've definitely seen this film before.

Reegs: Yeah. They've done it

Dam: before in 1997 as well as this 1950s version.

Reegs: Yep.

Cris: no, this one. The, the, the- Yeah ... Henry Fonda one. I've definitely seen this one before. And I've definitely watched it with my dad.

Sidey: is 12 Angry Men. It is. Yeah. Yeah,

but

Dam: we're four angry men.

Cris: I'm angry with someone, but I'll get over it.

Four myth idiots. In, in the- Yeah. More, more accurate That's probably right.

Sidey: angry. I'm a bit angry that Brazil won, but I'll get over it.

Reegs: Four miffed idiots. In

Dam: Yeah. Yeah. Four, four myths. More accurate. That's probably right. Yeah, there has been a lot of World Cup content going on in, in my world recently more than movies, but this is an absolute classic. And- Well,

Sidey: you know, widely acknowledged sort of classic fare, this, isn't it? Yeah. An

Reegs: incredible piece of science fiction, I think, t- taking place as it does in an alternate universe where [00:02:00] people can be persuaded of things through rational thought, and things like truth and justice matter. Well,

Dam: it's black and white world. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: I don't think much of the lawyers in this, though. What must have happened? Anyway, 'cause we join it at the end, right?

Cris: end, right?

Reegs: Yeah the

Dam: Yeah And

Sidey: judge is basically telling them to fuck off, and I guess he didn't have women on juries- No ... at this point.

Dam: no.

Sidey: In the '50s.

Cris: Why would you?

to

Reegs: to make

Dam: such big decisions. But yeah, we, we've... The trial has been- We

Reegs: don't even see the closing arguments. No. We just hear- The trial has been-

the judge, and

Sidey: looking a bit bored, and

Reegs: Hot and bored- Yeah ... and

Dam: hot. It's, it's a hot city. It's a heat wave, much like we've just had actually.

Sidey: and are gonna have again.

And

Dam: these guys have all got better places to be. None of them really wanna be there.

Reegs: But he tells them-

Dam: a very much open and closed case of murder.

Sidey: It says this is, is the death sentence as well.

Reegs: He says it's a death sentence, and you, you cannot have a hung jury. You know, this has gotta be a unanimous decision.

Dam: or nothing. Yeah.

Sidey: you're in that fucking hot room till you figure it out. Yeah.

Reegs: And we briefly get a shot [00:03:00] of who we're talking about, the, the, the boy at whose fate we are to decide.

Messer Dozel. Messer Erzel. Yeah.

Cris: Kinda has that face, doesn't he? Pre-Hench. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. A young, pretty young-looking-

Sidey: He's just gonna...

Yeah

Reegs: Mexican or Puerto Rican- Yeah ... or something

Dam: Hispanic kind of 18-year-old that's been accused of killing his father. And,

Reegs: is one of the only shots that takes place outside of the little room- Yeah

over the

Sidey: That's it

Dam: That's it ... the runtime. So that-

Reegs: ti- That's it ... over the runtime. Yeah. So they end up filing into this little room, which will be the space for the movie.

Cris: and they get locked

Dam: anybody that's been on jury duty before will know... No, I've never been, but they will know that- You're you're in a hot sweaty room and you can't leave.

But no, they do keep it all very much- Yeah ... boxed in, don't they? And you, you're not allowed to get that influence from outside and all, all the

Sidey: You would have no phones nowadays and all that

Dam: this is back in the day. And although it's shot, it's beautifully shot in black and white, but you can feel the heat as well

Reegs: You [00:04:00] can. A- and it's emphasized through the characters sort of dabbing and mopping at their brows and opening windows. But it- You can see

Cris: sweat on them as well- Yeah ... like proper sweat.

Dam: All

Sidey: big sweat

Reegs: four, actually, who stays ice cool until the very end of the movie.

Dam: S- Sy-

Sidey: glasses and the suit on?

Dam: Sidney Lumet, who did this film, he kept them all in there for hours just talking to each other, going over and over the

Reegs: rehearsed it for two weeks. Yeah. And then he shot it as the camera moved around. He didn't shoot it in order, he shot it from each of the characters' perspectives as the camera moved round- Right

which is a crazy thing to do. But yeah.

Sidey: there's one guy, I don't know, is he appointed to sort of be the head of the jurors or does he just

Reegs: number one, so you by default you become the

Sidey: just assume the role. Right. So

Reegs: So

Sidey: he sits them all down and they decide they're gonna sit in order.

And they do an initial vote and some people... Just not a secret ballot, but just a show of hands. Yeah. And there's probably like half a dozen straight away say guilty. And then there's a few tentative hands that just sort of follow. And then there's one dissenting

Dam: 11 of the 12

Sidey: it's 11 of the 12 that- It's

Dam: that [00:05:00] say guilty. And

Reegs: And so,

Dam: And

Sidey: mean, we're, we're like- ... juror number eight ... two minutes to decide that they're gonna send this guy off to death row. Yeah. And juror number-

Dam: Eight

Sidey: Eight ... eight says, "Well, I think we should talk about it." Yeah. At least Go through it a bit

Reegs: guy, juror number seven, has already made a glib comment about trying to get to the ball game later.

And it's clear from the off that some of these guys are not treating this very seriously. Juror number 12 is an ad executive who just seems to be there- Do nothing ... to like glad hand people and kind of-

Cris: Yeah, the guy tries to give them the card. It's like, "Oh, this is what I'm doing," and he, he kinda takes

Sidey: can't pick it up- He, he draws a pack of cereal or something, doesn't he? Yeah.

Yeah.

Cris: and then the other guy is like, "Oh, okay, mate." Then he puts the card back in his-

Dam: Well,

a- again, if you, like, had any experience with jury duty, then it's something... No, but I have, I've

Reegs: have,

Dam: the- None at all. Absolutely nothing. But if you have, you might also agree with me that you get the letter through, 'cause I've seen it friends and family have, have been called up, and you, you're expected to go.[00:06:00]

Like, you know- Yeah ... you can't get out

Sidey: of,

going. Yeah, you need a good excuse

Dam: You need a, a good excuse to go,

Reegs: like,

Dam: you know,

that you're, you're caring for your family or-

Cris: Or a plane

Dam: or something ... or that, you know, there, there's- Yeah ... there's something. So these guys have all been called up with better places to be and, and more important places to be in their minds.

And they want out. So juror number eight says, "Look, okay. If everybody, if every... We'll go anonymous this time, though. But if every... Let... Hear me out, and if everybody agrees with me-"

Sidey: Well, he ma- he ma- he makes some points before they-

Reegs: does. He get... Because I

Sidey: guy ends up-

Reegs: they're like, "You think he's innocent?" He's like, "No, I'm just not convinced beyond reasonable doubt," which is the

Sidey: gonna kill this guy

Reegs: been- Yeah

determined. And death, you know, it's in his, life is in his hands. And I think there is a quick break quite early on where they go to the bathroom. It's the only other scene that's, Yeah ... in there, because one of the other jurors- The old man ... will challenge him and say, "What if he is guilty and you're sticking up for him as being innocent?"

So he's got that to weigh on his- Yeah ... conscience as well. And what it is a thing to stand up in front of everybody [00:07:00] else-

Dam: When everybody

Reegs: everybody's saying guilty to say not, I think not

Dam: but it is a, it's a good call. He wants to be sure that beyond reasonable doubt. Yeah. So- Yeah ... he sets out a couple of these arguments and then they have an anonymous vote.

Reegs: Well,

the anonymous vote I think is after the, they start talking about, he wants to start talking about the specifics of the case, and one of the things is the uniqueness or otherwise of the murder weapon- Mm ... which is a switchblade.

Yeah. Yeah. And there, it's the first of, like, several facts that will be demolished that everybody else has just taken for granted. Juror number four, he's a, he's a stockbroker and a rationalist. I think he's probably the most logical of all of the people there, so he's the one who will get involved in all of these conversations quite a lot.

So yeah, they're all convinced about the uniqueness of this blade, that the they've said that the, the prosecution has said is a one of a kind, and then juror number eight pulls one out of his pocket and is like- Yeah ... "I went wandering down the streets, and this is where you can just go and get these."

Sidey: just go and get these."

$6 it

Reegs: $6, yeah. [00:08:00] So it's the first time that people start to be shaken, and when they do a vote after that, somebody else has joined him.

Dam: It's juror number nine.

Sidey: Yeah. There's an... Was it nine, was it? Yes.

Reegs: It's the old man.

Sidey: Yeah, the old man, and, and then there's another guy across the table who's like, "I grew up amongst..."

'Cause then you start to get- Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah ... you start to get a few comments about those people. Yeah. And you're like, "Oh, okay." Right.

Reegs: Well,

that's juror number 10 is really overtly racist. Yeah. The leader of the sort of guilty, the one who's most convinced, is

Sidey: it's jury- But there's one who's, one... But there's another one who's grown up with him, and he's not

Reegs: Lee Cobb. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: another one who's grown up with him, but, and he's not racist. He's like-

Reegs: He's number five

Sidey: one that votes no next, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: So you, you get a few... You start to get their characters. And th- they basically sort of split into camps. Three parts. So you've got Lee Cobb as, as juror number three.

He s- who lets slip quite early on that he's had a, a sort of an estrangement from his son. Yeah. He said something about like he, he wasn't much of a fighter, and they got into a fight, and his son punched him, and he hasn't seen him for three years or whatever. Yeah. And then juror number five, you start to find out [00:09:00] he's actually from the kind of slummy area where this comes from, and has some sympathy maybe more to- Yeah

the community, and awareness of what's going on. So-

Dam: Just,

Sidey: to know the, the things that the case hinges on- Yeah ... is that they've heard a fight.

They've heard someone say- They've heard someone say, "I'll s-

Reegs: I'll kill you." "I'll kill you." And he eventually goads juror number three into saying, "I'll kill you," in the cour-

Sidey: Then they hear a body hit the deck, and then an eyewitness has seen him from across- Yeah ... in through a train window- Yeah

Has been able to positively ID, so they say.

Reegs: And an old man has been IDing him three hours later, retrieving the murder

Sidey: And he said that he, his mu- his alibi was that he'd been at the movie theater. Cinema, yeah. But he couldn't remember, 'cause they nail one of them on that- Yeah ... on what film he'd been to see.

He couldn't remember what- Yeah,

Reegs: or who the characters- Yeah, yeah ... the stars were of that film, yeah.

Sidey: And so it's about- Figuring out are these things as plausible as it was sort of made out. [00:10:00] And he's straight away says, "I don't think that the defense attorney really gave a shit." You know? Yeah.

Didn't really fight this guy's case very much. So they kinda go through all these points and just trying to see if they're valid or not.

Reegs: They perform a s- a couple of different experiments and that sort of thing to, like, prove how long it would take- Yeah ... for the old man to get... You know, and they discuss his physical condition.

He had a club foot, I think, and he was dragging it, so how long would it take him to walk 43 feet? Would it be the 15 seconds he said? Yeah. And also the angle of the murder weapon, how you hold a switchblade, whether it would be down or up, like-

Cris: the angle is down, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: But then the other guy says that's not how you would...

You hold it like that. You open it and you,

Dam: You'd have

Sidey: Takes too long to open it, change it, do that. You just open

Dam: some kind of- This

Sidey: wouldn't have gone down

Dam: to do it that way. It's, it's like if it's- I've

Sidey: seen people fight with those, and that's not how you do it.

So slowly they start

Dam: demolishing or put at least calling

Sidey: into doubt some of these things- Is it putting enough doubt about each

Reegs: established, even though, like, you know... And everybody is, to an extent, getting drawn in. [00:11:00] Juror number seven, the baseball guy, is not really. He just really wants this thing over and done with.

Sidey: He's just- ... yeah, he's just like a fucking idiot.

Dam: other people

Sidey: have their motivations. You know, juror number one wants to keep everything going. Juror number two is the timid bank clerk.

Dam: He'll

Sidey: come up with a, an important point

Reegs: He's just,

Dam: observed right

Sidey: towards the end, I think. Yeah.

Reegs: yeah,

Cris: the one with the specs? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Reegs: He's just like, "Fuck it." Yeah, yeah ... juror number four is the logical guy. Juror number five we know. I can't remember, juror number six was the guy who challenges him in the restaurant. We get all the way through it until there's a big, essentially racist outpouring from juror number 10- Yeah ... which, you

know,

is supposed to be at the heart of some of this.

He's just like, "Oh, you know what those people are like." It's never

Sidey: like losing steam in his own argument- Yeah ... at one point when he's just like, basically just outing himself as a huge bigot. Yeah. And then he's, he's obviously like, "Oh God, what do I sound like?"

Dam: And then-

Reegs: And you get this incredible shot of everybody moving

Sidey: They just, yeah, they all just turn their back on him, and just let him

Reegs: they let him rant, and then they're like, "That's enough from you." And also Lumet [00:12:00] does this thing where the camera starts really high during the movie and stays really high, but during the movie gets lower and lower and lower and closer into the actors.

So by the end, it's like there in your face as we get to the resolution of it, which is really cool. And so after having demolished all these arguments

the

Sidey: they get the, get the, they get the banker guy or the stockbroker guy on the film thing.

Reegs: He's the final one, and his position is just cold logic.

He's like- Yeah,

sure,

Sidey: I

Reegs: You

Sidey: c- I'm not wearing a tie at all." Yeah,

Reegs: is a bit like that. Yeah. H- her testimony about her glasses, he's shaken. He starts to sweat when he realizes that- Yeah ... the alibi about not remembering the movie could be plausible- Yeah ... 'cause he couldn't remember the movie

Sidey: saw. He get, he mis-he

Cris: Yeah, and it was, it was four days ago or something like that. He went with the missus and he's like the second one, "Well, it was someone that I didn't really know." The first one he can tell straight away

Sidey: "It was the brilliant Mr.

So and So." The guy's like, "I saw that film. It was the magnificent Mr. Someone." Yeah. He's like, "Oh, fuck." Oh, fuck. Yeah.

Reegs: And then the second

bit

Dam: then it's a real Sherlock bit, isn't it? It's a real kind of where he, he just takes his glasses off and [00:13:00] he just kind of rubs hi- the, his nose where-

Sidey: old man, isn't it?

Dam: And he, he re- he realizes then that's what the woman did in the in the, in the trial. The old woman over who, who'd been the witness, and he realized, well, she must wear glasses. That's why she's done that, but she didn't wear them into court. Yeah. And- And

Sidey: and her thing is that she had heard a noise, got out of bed.

Yeah. And they're like, "Well, you didn't get out of bed- Put your glasses on ... put your glasses on and then go, oh,

Dam: the morning and then-

Reegs: then- So how convinced

Cris: Through the windows of a train.

Reegs: a passing train, yeah.

Dam: It's a lot to, to put a man's life on

Reegs: And that takes the... Now, at this point, it actually switches it, so it's 11 to one the other way around- Yeah

where Lee Cobb now is the only man clinging onto the guilty verdict.

Cris: that's when he b- he tears the,

the

Sidey: yeah, first of all, he's just so belligerent. He doesn't wanna be, like lose face and say, "Yeah, I was wrong or, or I could be wrong." He's just so-

Cris: Yeah. Yeah

he

Sidey: his way till he sees the picture of his lad and he just, he

loses it Yeah,

Dam: this lad isn't your

Cris: [00:14:00] kids, rotten children or whatever.

Reegs: and he's essentially holding this child guilty of this crime on behalf of his own son- Yeah ... who's wronged him. And he's got a deep resentment of the youth, so- Yeah ... he will eventually also come round to the correct decision,

Dam: yeah. And, and that's it. It was just

the,

Reegs: the

Dam: number eight who had questioned it and, you know, put

the,

the thought of are we 100% sure this back out to these other 11. And

Sidey: they

Reegs: did the ... I mean, everybody else would've literally just walked in there and gone, "Guilty. Yeah,

Sidey: Oh, like two minutes in they would've just- Yeah ... the guy would've been sent to death row. I

Reegs: mean,

And

Sidey: and important- And they just- ... they don't actually prove... There's no like, "Yeah, this guy's innocent." They're just like, "No, there's

Cris: doubt." Reasonable

Dam: doubt

Sidey: brought down ... we can't 100% say that this kid killed his dad.

We just can't say that." Yeah. So you cannot have someone killed for that.

Reegs: that. I don't think we see the verdict being returned, do we?

We just actually see them leave the courthouse one by one, and then the two jurors, eight and [00:15:00] nine, just exchange names on the steps. So he says- Yeah ... "Oh, what's your name? Davis." Davis. And McCardle, I think he says the other

Dam: Two, two kind of reasonable jurors out of it all.

And they-

Reegs: I couldn't have been more fond of this.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dam: Oh.

Well,

it, it, is an absolute classic. I mean, I've, I've watched

Sidey: Oh, I'm trying to get another one.

Cris: try the other one

Sidey: put this one in the Edward bins.

Dam: Yeah, I've, I've watched this at least three times over the years. It's an absolute, you know, Stonewall classic of, of the genre. I mean, it was Oscar nominated I think three times, but also importantly, I think it's been shown even in in US history.

'Cause there's one long speech where they talk about the the US justice system- Mm ... being one of real honor and, you know, one of, of great care and fairness and justice- ... and all those kind of things.

Cris: If you make it to court. If,

Dam: if, if, if you can, you

know...

And, but still, you know, that [00:16:00] is the ideals, and I think that there was one- It's contentious

there was one great- At times ... yeah, one great kind of court justice now who's, who says to a jurors, "Watch this," like, you know, before you start deliberating too much and just going straight towards a-

Reegs: Yeah. There's several things that you c- they did in this though that would've caused a mistrial if they'd done it

Dam: Yeah, I mean, this, this isn't

like,

Sidey: The

Reegs: pu- get- producing a duplicate murder weapon in the, Yeah ... room is a, is a big no-no.

Dam: Yeah. Bringing a, bringing a weapon- Yeah ... into the juror room is probably i- is wrong. But there i- there's obviously a lot around the, the understanding of deliberation and, and being given a fair trial.

Reegs: It's more about- ... certainly when it's- ... everybody's representing an idea, aren't they really? And it's like systematically explained to you and then knocked down each time. Like-

well,

Dam: but they, they... you need to be open enough to be able to talk about it, and not bigoted enough to just stick to your position, which obviously he was right to the end because you... he's realizing he's carrying [00:17:00] his own, you know, filters through this, his own preconceived ideas of what happened because of the things that has happened in his life- Yeah

not the facts of the case. Yeah. And they've had to y- you know, between them pick at it. They've all got little bits of information like, you know, the, the juror who's guessed the glasses, he wore glasses, so he knows he's done that and he puts that together and it's, it's another big piece of the jigsaw that helps con- further convince other members of the, the jury.

It, it's shot in a month in one room, you know, this film. It's, it's not one of tho-...

Reegs: 21 days, wasn't it? The other,

Dam: The other kind of thing that I, I love about these films, like, we watched Coherence back for the pod few... probably a couple of years ago now, wasn't it?

Sidey: Good few years, yeah

Dam: and it has that same kind of, you know- brilliance that you can put a fantastic film together without a huge set, without going out and, you know, it's around the idea, and [00:18:00] it's around the, the conversations

Cris: also the performance because it's really difficult to keep things going.

Sidey: And, and

Cris: don't get me wrong, I had a probably about a 10-minute period when I fell asleep at this film.

Dam: 10? But... Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: But generally I was, I was fairly focused on it, and

Sidey: there's

Cris: few films that are, like you say, filmed in

Dam: one room- It's an old film as well, yeah

Cris: especially for a, for a black and white film- Yeah

to just be, still be able to, to be curious and be kinda there and, and not grab your phone or not go for a cup of tea or whatever. Yeah, yeah. So to, to have that. And everyone kinda had their part, even the ones that... 'Cause there's a couple of them that don't really say that much. Yeah. But when they do, they do make a difference- Yeah

or they do shift the opinion

Reegs: Everybody- To a half of

Cris: them in the room,

Dam: Yeah.

Reegs: there's, like, a just a brilliant economy of everything in this. Like, every line furthers the story in terms of their character or their belief system or- Yeah ... or the plot.

Or where they're from or ... Yeah. Or like, it's so tight, and [00:19:00] then, you know, so it's just a g- and great ensemble and,

Sidey: directorial debut as well.

Reegs: Yeah. Do you think what's his name, Cobb, looks a bit like Jason Segel? Mixed with, ... Louis Mandylor that we did the,

Dam: was in, Yeah.

Reegs: thing

Sidey: thought he reminded me...

Cobb was number three?

Reegs: Yeah.

Dam: He's in loads

Sidey: me of,

Cris: Cobb. He reminded me of,

Reegs: reminded me of,

Sidey: he's the one with the- ... Rodney Dangerfield for some reason.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: an angry Rodney Dangerfield.

Dam: is

a, a, a bit like Dangerfield, I reckon. But I mean, Cobb's been in tons of movies and things. Yeah. He's a really kinda big time actor, and obviously Henry Fonda,

Sidey: brilliant. His one and only film. Yeah. Yeah, amazing.

Cris: He definitely- Do we have any stats for this?

Sidey: It wasn't a huge box office smash.

Reegs: it was a floppy floppy,

Sidey: didn't, mm-hmm.

Dam: Critics liked it, and the Academy recognized it with nominations. I dunno what won the-

Sidey: in the US National Film Registry

Reegs: big thing about it is it started coming up against color.

That was its problem, and black and white was going out of fashion in 1957.

Sidey: I haven't seen the [00:20:00] remaking thing of it.

Reegs: No

Sidey: William Friedkin did a TV version of it.

Reegs: Yeah. And it's been multi- I think it's been multiple TV versions across all

Sidey: countries. I never understand that. I get, I get it if someone's had a great idea, and there's been a, an attempt at it, and it hasn't landed, then remake that.

But just show, just

Reegs: Ah, but this one you could set anywhere and just do a very personal exploration of your justice system- Yeah ... and your cultural things. Like, that's, that's what makes this so good, right? You could rewrite this now and it would be different, but it would be

Cris: good. The, the, yeah, the premise would be the same- Yeah

kinda thing. Like, someone's accused of doing this- Yeah ... whatever this is. And

Reegs: now let's examine our prejudices. Let's examine- Yeah, yeah, yeah ... all this

Dam: cultural kinda norms of the day and

Reegs: things, yeah

Cris: yeah Because it is true in, in the jur- in the, in the court, obviously for those who have been. Have you

Dam: been, Dan? Yeah. No, I've not

Cris: Okay.

Sidey: I've not, no. Okay.

Cris: but, but for those who have- Yeah ... th- there's all sorts from different walks of life. So you could be someone that works as a bin man, someone that works in [00:21:00] a restaurant. Yeah. You can be someone that works in a bank. You can be someone that's a lawyer. You can be someone that's

Reegs: a- Yeah

a,

Cris: a toff or whatever they're called.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, you, you went to private school. You didn't

Reegs: old. You can be young. You could even be a woman.

Cris: Ugh. Yeah. Really?

Reegs: That's what they've changed these days. Okay. Well,

Dam: it's all sorts these days. Yeah. Not

Cris: sure what to make of that, but there you go.

Sidey: Overall? Overall,

Dam: it is for me one of the best black and white films we've seen on the pod. And it's a strong recommend.

Reegs: Yeah, it's the strongest of strong recommends. Very good.

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: Really strong. Recommending

Dam: th- this is four agreed men

Cris: what is it? Is it just under two hours?

Sidey: Oh, it's an hour and a half.

Reegs: 90 minutes about, I

Cris: yeah, I was gonna say one,

Reegs: It's really

Sidey: I can tell you that. Hang on. 98

Reegs: minutes? 94?

Sidey: I can't tell you that.

Cris: I can't see that. Oh

Sidey: But it did feel like it was, it was an hour and a half. Yep.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: And it was on Prime, right? Yes. That's where

Sidey: Prime. You can watch it for nothing as long as you've got a Prime membership.

Yeah. Yeah. And I, I would recommend that you do.

Dam: Yeah. Do it now.

Cris: Do we [00:22:00] have anything lined up for next week, sorry?

Dam: No.

Cris: No? Okay. Do we know whose turn it is?

Sidey: Yours.

Cris: Yeah, okay. I'll have something tomorrow.

Dam: Wow. Right. We're holding to it. That's huge, huge news. That's huge news.

Sidey: bigger than that.

Cris: Well, I'm not gonna say tonight, because by the time I get home,

Sidey: I want to do it- Well- Well, no, tomorrow's- Tomorrow we'll just wait.

We'll

Dam: Speedy Gonzalez. Yeah

Sidey: that remains is to say Sidie signing out.

Dam: Dan's gone.

Reegs: R- Reags has left the building. Not over there. Reags

Dam: Reeve's still here

Cris: Right. So