Blue & Three Colour: Blue
This week on Bad Dads Film Review, Sidey, Dan, Reegs and Cris review Krzysztof Kieślowski’s Three Colours: Blue, the first part of the director’s famous trilogy inspired by liberty, equality and fraternity. This is the liberty one, although the film’s idea of freedom is less “joyful self-expression” and more “what if grief made you sell your life, bin the furniture, delete your feelings and move into a Paris flat with only a blue lamp for company?”
Juliette Binoche stars as Julie, a woman who survives the car crash that kills her composer husband and young daughter. After a failed suicide attempt, she decides not to die but to detach from everything: the house, the music, the money, the memories, the people and any emotional bond that might hurt her again. Unfortunately for Julie, life keeps refusing to leave her alone. A witness from the crash returns her necklace, a neighbour draws her into an unlikely friendship, Olivier tries to complete the great unfinished concerto, and the discovery of her husband’s pregnant mistress forces Julie to confront what compassion might look like after devastation.
The dads talk about the huge Prime subtitles, the opening crash, the funeral, the failed overdose, the destroyed manuscript, the swimming-pool scenes, the blue lighting, the sugar cube, the street musician, Lucille and the sex club, Julie’s mother, the mistress Sandrine, the concerto for Europe, and the way the film uses reflections, glass, music and sudden cuts to black to show memory and grief breaking through Julie’s carefully constructed numbness.
Verdicts are a clean sweep. Dan finds the filmmaking so strong that the heavy subject matter becomes surprisingly easy to watch, and he now wants to see the rest of the trilogy. Sidey thinks some viewers might accuse it of being pretentious, but for him the story is simple, moving and beautifully made, with Juliette Binoche giving an exceptional performance. Reegs loves it and calls it a banger. The official Bad Dads verdict: a strong blue recommend.
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But how do you know it's me that's gone red and not Chris?
SPEAKER_02Because I saw you press a button and it's Oh right. It is blue week, yeah. We've already discussed blue steel. Yeah. Which we all loved.
SPEAKER_01When I typed blue movies into Google for top five research, I got some very very interesting hits. It just came back to your favourite pages again, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well it is Blue Week. Idea, what inspired this?
SPEAKER_02The three colours, I think. Never seen them, so I wanted to do that. The movie that we are going to review a little bit later.
SPEAKER_05Is it your favourite colour?
SPEAKER_02Tri-color. I don't have a favourite colour. I think we did when we did Bluey, did we do top five blue things then? Well maybe. Possibly. We're gonna do it again. Yeah. Okay. Come back round again. Yeah, this is three colours blue. Dad, hold it there. I think everyone is tromping at the bit to find out what happened in walking football this year.
SPEAKER_00You're right. Yes. We've gone early. It's an exciting week because we're up against it because some players had decided to take pre-season a little bit early. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was away. I missed the game. It's against one of our big rivals. Yeah, so the goalie, most importantly, the goalie was away.
SPEAKER_00He's a good goal then.
SPEAKER_02Uh well, we normally have a good backup goalie, but he couldn't play, so we had to put one of the outfield players who was actually really good. Hesiano Biasteros. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00What was really good is he he throws himself around. He's good, he's good at everything. Yeah. Yeah. He was.
SPEAKER_02But that was going to be, you know, tough because they've got really good forward guy, a guy called Noli.
SPEAKER_00Scores a lot of goals. Noli? Yeah, he's top scorer every year. Scored five in the last game.
SPEAKER_01So back to the wall. No first team or subkeeper, an outfield player in goal. So I'm assuming it all went horribly wrong for you, did it? And Pete was in attendance. And Pete was there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you had the Pete the Pete effect as well. But we managed to muddle through. We managed to. Got a W. Chris was there supporting. Yeah. That made up for Pete, maybe. Probably balanced it out quite nicely. Youngster, young lad came on, he got a couple.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And we won 2-1. Well, it's the it's 45, I think, is the F to be. Yeah. So what somebody on the cusp of 45? He got two goals.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you did. Yeah, I did. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Which was really He should have had the third one. Yeah. No, I should have had a second before I had a. I missed an absolute sit like one on one with a keeper. No pressure. Slightly to the right, but but it was still a good angle. I didn't even hit the target. Like the ball was still going now. Dragnet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was an absolute. But what did you keep them out as well at the other end?
SPEAKER_00Well, we did the first half, and then they equalised one-one. Andy, another one of their players, very good. I think he was player of the year in Jersey the first season of the first time. Yeah, he's alright. He's good lads. Yeah, he's he's good, he's good lad, yeah. And then Ross sent over a corner, and our whole c corner routine paid off finally. And and I managed to stop in the second.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, he he shot, hit the post, rebound, goal in the back of the first two.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, nice. Shooting McGavin. And his top scorer in the league. I think it's Noly. Probably because he got as say like five in one game. That'll help. But we we're just played three, one, three.
SPEAKER_02You can't say fairer than that then. Yeah, happy with that. That's the word. Doctor, I can't pronounce my F's and my R's. We can't say fairer than that then. True, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Um missing the heartbeat of the team in the world.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was, there was some nerves, but the lads stepped up, and oh, one of the best moments of all time was Jesus' step over that just sold a dummy to one of their players, and he just went down the line. And like in walking football, it was it's like he'd gone full pace, isn't it? You were right next to it. I was right in the middle.
SPEAKER_04That and and the chef shuffle, where he did two of them. He just shuffled left and right, and he just shuffled the ball quickly. And you could see both of them just went one way, and when he moved the other way, they just balled with just like they're on the start. Oh, it's amazing.
SPEAKER_00The shepherd shuffle was brilliant. He can still I mean my hip would just drop out, I think, if I was to try anything like that.
SPEAKER_02So we've got Griville next, and I think we might not have a game for a month, so time to you know just recover. Yeah, recharge the batteries, go to the space. It's very intense. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Hit the training ground.
SPEAKER_00We probably will. Yeah, we we probably will. We'll need to get a few set pieces and friendlies in, but we'll do it probably with a little mix of bub as well.
SPEAKER_01If you've got a set piece, coach, because that's all the rage now in the paper. Are you putting your hand up? Uh what, you need somebody to come in and design.
SPEAKER_00You're only around the corner from our training uh from our training ground.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so right, I watched the homework, which was looking a bit dicey actually, because I only got back from holiday yesterday lunchtime. I managed to squeeze both movies in yesterday. And I also, while away, managed to watch the day after tomorrow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Then it's quaid. Yeah. So there that.
SPEAKER_00I watched Vigil, which is a BBC kind of series. Okay. And it's pretty good. I would recommend it actually. It was almost gonna be like a cancelled drag race, though. They what, sorry? They cancelled drag race. Oh, really? That might be hard. That's gone. This was a a six-part mini-series, but now there's two other series, and you'll know it if you watch it, it's on BBC. In the first ten minutes, you'll know if it's for you or not. So you only have to give it ten minutes and and think I'm into this or I'm not, and it'll keep you watching. I think you'd like it, Chris. What is it called? Vigil. Vigil, okay. It's on BBC iPlayer. Okay. It is kind of fast-paced dialogue and everything, but there's enough going on there that kept me interested, and I know the missus fell asleep at the end of every episode. I think that was more just to the time of time of night. And I also watched Lawrence of Aravior again.
SPEAKER_01When did you watch the four and a half?
SPEAKER_00No, it's three and a half. Three and a half. When did you watch the I just put it on? It's on BBC I play as well. And I just put it on. I thought I'll just watch the first sort of ten minutes of this, and then it was like, and it just goes so quick. It's such a brilliant film. Riggs, what did you think of Lawrence of Arabia?
SPEAKER_01I'll let you know when I've seen it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I can't believe it. Honestly, that's probably the fifth or sixth time I've seen it. And I'll watch it, I'll definitely watch it. I'll definitely watch it again. It's just brilliant. It's it's been a little while since we did it for the pod, was probably the last time I watched it, which was a couple of years ago. Did you watch it as well?
SPEAKER_04Not recently.
SPEAKER_00But for the pod?
SPEAKER_04I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02I think it was Pete that week because Pete was just disarranged in you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and so I watched it again and it's still magnificent. And then I started going into a bit of a Lawrence and YouTube hole and looking at the real life thing of it because in the movie actually they they have him in this big church and lots of people going to his because it starts off with the yeah the guy in antics roadshow, he's got his watch. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, fantastic. And well he lived down the road where my sister's got a a flat. There's a park and there's a plaque, yeah. But actually the the real life church that he ended up uh being buried at is quite a small church, and but they had this kind of old pathway, you know, footage of stuff churchy all going there and everything. You know, all these people going and just this was a man who did something very, very special and was able to bring these kind of tribes together that otherwise were fighting within themselves and everything, and to overthrow the the Turks at the time and really changed the the way of the the war in in that region, you know. It was but brilliant, brilliant movie and a complex man and all the rest of it. But Peter O'Chaul just fantastic. How he never won the Oscar for that. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Chris, you were you were poorly last week. Yeah, I wasn't very well. I I really struggled, especially. Did we find out what it was what was up? I think it was heat exhaust exhaustion and like severe dehydration. I didn't really I went to to do the yoga, but hot yoga. And then I came to see you boys at the walking football and I was fine. But I got home and I I think I didn't drink enough water and I kind of crashed out. Yeah, I was honestly the Sunday and then Monday. I couldn't make it to work on Monday.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's not like you at all. Can't remember the last time you missed work. So even ill, I've seen you there.
SPEAKER_01Did you get other people's sweat on you at the hot yoga?
SPEAKER_04No. No Pete does it. No, no, you you have your own mat and you know you're in your own. Pete does it fully nude. Nice. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00No, it's he he he has got like a thong, it's just that thin. Yeah, it's fully nude. It's fishing.
SPEAKER_04It's modesty made out of the fish rod, the fishing rod. Yeah. I've watched one thing which I'm pretty sure was either not the Monday night because I stupidly wanted to watch the tune, got battered by Lee. Yeah, yeah, bad one. But I watched I what may have been Tuesday night, one of the nights, I watched a film called May Day, and it's probably w again one of the the worst films I've ever seen in my life. It's a 2026 Apple TV thing with Ryan Reynolds and I've got right off him. He's got a he's just phoning him in these days, isn't he? Oh my god, honestly, it's Ryan Reynolds and Kenneth Branagh. Oh, I saw them do another publicity for it. You know what? It is stinker. A shocker. Oh dear. I it for me, you know how it looks like. And I'm not I'm not look, I'm not a critic. I like to watch films. Some of them I'm not very good at judging. I just like what I like and whatever. But it looked to me that they basically got these two actors and they had an idea where he's uh he's like a top gun pilot, right? He's like this assassin, it's his nickname, like Maverick and whatever. And he goes behind them in enemy lines in Russia in the 80s or late 80s, and he Ryan Menowits. Yeah, he crashes in Siberia or somewhere. This guy saves him, and he's an ex-KGB agent, and they need to escape basically, and whatever. But it's so that's the idea, and I think whatever they did, Apple TV was all right. Well, what's the budget? This, we'll spend all our money on Ryan Reynolds and this guy because we've seen them before in in films and they they've got faces and names, and the rest of it is just honestly was so poorly made. And I'm not an expert, but you know when they film something that is meant to be common as Russia, and the buildings all have air conditioning units on the outside, and you can see they're outside in these communist-looking buildings, but you can see the AC unit outside, and I'm like, you've got CGI now, he just lied to me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just just do everything in a green room.
SPEAKER_00Just those two actors don't even seem suited to each other, to be honest. No, I see. No, it's a weird combination, isn't it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I saw them on Trackstar, which is something I watch on YouTube, where they just have to, you know, they play five seconds of a song and they have to guess it. And so it doesn't really have any chemistry to it.
SPEAKER_00No, no, I I just don't know. So that wasn't great.
SPEAKER_04Not a strong recommendation. That's not a strong recommendation. Okay. I probably have watched something else, but because I wasn't really feeling very well out of it. I'm pretty sure I watched some series. Oh, do you know? I watched the Reacher series and I couldn't stand it. No, no, I couldn't I I the first four or five episodes, I was just like, you know what? This is actually I still didn't understand why he had to kill everyone instead of just trying to get some information from someone instead of just killing everyone. Killing everyone, yeah. Before he could even ask a question and who sent you, where are you for you know anything? He just deduced that oh, they're from Venezuela because they slice someone's neck in a certain way. Yeah. But but he couldn't care less about anything else. Like I've got them in the booth of the car, but instead of shooting in the leg, no, I'm gonna shoot them in the back and kill them.
SPEAKER_00He's an expert in Colombian neck ties or Venezuelan nectaries, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So that, but then because it just kind of kept dragging on a little bit, I just towards the end, I I I didn't finish the season to know. Who did it or what the whole purpose of whoever was.
SPEAKER_01They were running counterfeit money through Margrave. It was the guy's son was really the big villain at the end.
SPEAKER_04The guy with the Jeep, with like the top looking.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's f uh Reacher kills him in the in a shootout in the last episode. Right. Finley, you know, the black copper. The tweed man. Yeah, he takes off his tweed and goes diehard in a vest. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So you see on Discord Ritchie was very worried that we might have spoilers for the last episode of season four. Oh, right. Okay, no. We were out of the week off. Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I had to reassure it, don't worry. No, it was fine. But it was simple.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, I watched that because it's easy, right? You just put it on and it's like, alright. It is easy. He's gonna kill everyone.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04It doesn't there's no logic. Yeah. But it's just good fun.
SPEAKER_01He's just gonna kill everyone. I kind of like the fact that his catchphrase is okay. That's like an amazing catchphrase. Did you finish it off? Yeah, I finished it all, man. I finished it all. Well, four seasons. Yeah. I watched three of them while we were on our France trip. And what about last week? Anything new? My eldest has just got into the Hunger Games. Oh right. And has become assessed by the birds. That's a good one.
SPEAKER_00Are you watching it with them? We've watched the first one. It's okay, the first one, but I it is okay. I mean, to watch something with your kids that you can actually get into.
SPEAKER_01Well, your interests almost overlap or intersect in some particular way. I enjoy that, yeah. And I think there's the follow-ups have got potential to be more interesting as they get more budget. The first one suffered from a bit of lack of budget.
SPEAKER_00And it it does. They do get better. Have you you've seen them before though, have you?
SPEAKER_01No, I haven't.
SPEAKER_00So you're in for a bit of a treat. I think they they get better and better actually.
SPEAKER_04Is this a series or the film? Series of films. This is the one with Jennifer Lawrence. Yes. Have you seen the first one? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't like it. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't really funny. There's there's a guy, the what's the guy's name? Step Jadar or something. I don't know. The the what the fuck? There's Katniss and there's Peter Mellarch. Peter, yeah. Peter Mellarch.
SPEAKER_02Peter was a stupid name. Yeah. Peter's stupid name, yeah. Anyone call Peter? Double nine.
SPEAKER_01Peter. So if there's a good one, it's a good chance that we'll end up doing one on the pod.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well I've done make it one of the the last ones, because I think I haven't seen the last one with There's Mocking J Part One and Part Two, and then there's another one after that. And I think that's the one that we have.
SPEAKER_04And that prequels as well? So how many, how many in total, how many films are there? Five.
SPEAKER_00There's lots of books. There's lots of books, and I think they made a film a book.
SPEAKER_01It's very inspired by Battle Royale. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I certainly just watched that as we okay.
SPEAKER_02That's what we're doing. Long intro. Shall we just talk about blue stuff? Yeah. Right. I just said top five blue. Yeah. And then you can interpret that.
SPEAKER_00Didn't give much away but it's not a big thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Really up to you. Let's talk about penis. Yeah. Dr. Manhattan. Yeah. Yeah. From Watchmen, which I fucking love. Yes. I actually started watching that again, the series of that, because I've only seen the once. Oh, the series is good as well. Brilliant. Are they? Yeah. How many seasons? Just one. There's only one season. One and done. Yes, you could do.
SPEAKER_04I like the film. I really like the film.
SPEAKER_02Very they take it on a noir a different kind of I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Anyway. The Dark Manhattan's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02True to the Yeah, so he he's a dude, he's a scientist who's a total nerd, and they're doing some sort of experiments about stuff. It's not clear what they're actually experimenting on at all. Some sort of particle quantum stuff. And his what is for some for some reason he's taken off his watch and left it in the chamber. Oh, right. And he goes to get it and it locks, and it's a time lock where there's no override to to stop that process.
SPEAKER_00It must have been a casio. You don't go back for anything.
SPEAKER_02It wasn't well, it was an analog one, it wasn't digital, that's for sure. And so his missus has to sort of watch through although I think she does turn her back on him. Yeah. While he's just basically eviscerated, evaporated, even he's just completely gone. Disintegrated. And then is able to he's not dead, he's some sort of consciousness around. And the first trick he says later on, the first trick I learned was how to like reform my physical being.
SPEAKER_01But it's like you see him just reassembling his like central nervous system. That's what he said.
SPEAKER_02First of all, his central nervous system is spotted just outside in the corridor, and he's like and he's able to perceive all of time all at the same time. He's omnipotent. Yeah. You can see past, present, and future all at the same time. Yeah. And I be like hipster wanker, but I prefer the way it's done in the book. Yeah. The the panels where he's the main bit of the story fucking brilliant.
SPEAKER_01I really controversially think that the change for the movie where they blame it on Manhattan is better than the the giant octopus squid thing in the comic.
SPEAKER_02But they and then the series they revert back to that. I know they do. I think this is great. Yeah. And he's very blue. He's very blue, and you see his penis, and then they make him wear like some black kind of undies later on, because they don't want to have his dick out all the time.
SPEAKER_01I think that iconic scene of him walking through Vietnam and he's maybe a hundred foot tall and just like zapping people just pointing at him and they've gone they surrender to him in that version of the reality.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's a similar kind of thing is is when the evil wizard Gargamel chases out the Smurfs of their village, they're blue, and this was one of the the classic cartoons that I used to enjoy watching as as a kid. The comic strip first. Huh? The smurf comic strip, wasn't it? Was it? Yeah. Oh, these Belgian. Yeah. They are Belgian. Yeah, I wasn't I'm not that old. Did they ever kill Gargamel? Did they ever defeated this? Defeated, yes. Killed, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_01Executed, yeah, I think.
SPEAKER_00Did they execute? Did actually execute. Papa Smurf, yeah. Yeah, garoting. But yeah, so you had Papa Smurf, and you had that like hot Smurf.
SPEAKER_02They have this exact conversation in Donnie Tarko, don't they? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, whether they would do. Um in uh the 2011 there's been various reboots of it. The 2011 one with Neil Patrick Harris and Katie Perry, in which it seems I kissed De Smurf and I liked it.
SPEAKER_00I kissed De Smurf and I liked it.
SPEAKER_01I know, and the thing is, if the Smurfette is singing that in that movie and all of them are dudes, it loses the kind of sapphic kind of tendencies of the It's more like a gangbang or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it leans back into the Donnie Darko gangbang I I was thinking more along the cartoon Smurfs and more innocent days of the Smur Gang just you know outwitting Gargamel and going back to their village where Gargamel would kind of show rats. Was he kicked out of the Smurfs village? Yeah, I think so because he wasn't accepted and well he was, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think he just became a bit of an arse, and then you had to be you had to be defined singularly by your character trait, didn't you, in the Smurf world? Because they were all like, oh, there's sporting vanity.
SPEAKER_00Kind of like the dwarfs, yeah. Yeah, it was. And Gargamel was just angry, aggro. It would be like oldie, nosy, Jimmy, and Chris. And Sheeran would never no, he wouldn't. Can you beat the Smurfs for blueness?
SPEAKER_04Well, I've got a character called Mystique. Oh, yes. Rebecca Romain. Yeah, Rebecca Samos. Rebecca Romain, JLoy as well, J Jennifer Lawrence, and more importantly, in Epic movie Carmen Electra. Yes. She plays the same. I think Rebecca Romaine's coming back for Doomsday, isn't she? Isn't it Jennifer Lawrence? I don't know. I don't know, but I've got I've got that, and that I would say looks pretty good. Yeah. That looks pretty good. Yeah, it does not suck. So that's a blue solid Smurfett, I'm gonna say. But this is the X-Men franchise. There's a few blueies in that. You got Nightcrawler. And Beast. It's quite blue. Beast, Hank McCoy, yeah. Hank, yeah, he's quite blue. But she's got great boobs, so Hank doesn't really have he's got boobs, but it's not they're hairy though, so I don't know, not the greatest hairy boobs.
SPEAKER_00Hairy boobs?
SPEAKER_01Not so I'm sorry, well I don't want to body shame, but no, I my personal preference is not without hair boobs. Well, do you read all the I don't have hairy boobs? Well, I suppose, but uh it wasn't necessarily my question, but okay. I was gonna go with as I said it, it was my first reaction last week when you said we're gonna do top five blue. It came straight into my head was from season two, episode one of Arrested Development, the one where my leaves. Yeah, oh no, I'm afraid I just blew myself. Tobias David Cross. He's he's a never nude analist. What's the world's first analyst and therapist? And he portmanteos it. He's a never nude as well. He never takes his boxes off.
SPEAKER_02And he's mad Sometimes when I'm like daydreaming, I'm I wonder how he could ever not does he have to do some sort of weird thing where he covers himself. I wonder how the the logistics of not being an even be naked to himself.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. He's an Evenude. Yeah. He's just an Evenude, never gets nude. But he he's a sort he is this therapist, he's also kind of a writer, director, all in his mind's all bullshit. And through a combination of circumstances, he thinks he gets an audition for the blue man group. So he paints his body blue and he's obviously blue for the entire episode. In fact, for it's keeps popping up later in other episodes as well, doesn't it? I think. But then there's a series of gags about I blew myself, etc. etc.
SPEAKER_02I keep seeing it's not actually a blooper, but it's where he's he has a prophet Michael. Yeah. Because Michael's giving them some you know marriage advice. Yeah. And he's like, Oh, you're the big expert, you know, I forgot your wife is dead. And they're like, they're all like barely holding it together, and it's the like the best one they could do for all that and it made it into this series, you know. Yeah, it was the one they had to use because they just couldn't get through that scene. Yeah. It was I I even think that series three probably does tail off a little bit, but season one too, like I'm watching season one again now.
SPEAKER_01It's so fucking funny. Yeah, it is really, really funny. And maybe in George Michael is just so hot as well.
SPEAKER_02I really want them to do it. Yeah, of course you do. Yeah. They're cousins for those who don't know. The genie from Aladdin. Yeah, blue.
SPEAKER_00I'm thinking Aladdin?
SPEAKER_02Was that the I'm thinking of the Robin Williams, the animated version, not the guy Ritchie directed Will Smith one. Will Smith take the money. Which I can't I would never watch it. Why do that? Absolutely pan. Well, I was thinking out of all the live action ones, apparently the Moana one is fucking dreadful as well. I mean, it just looks fucking shit. And it's still mostly fucking CGI anyway, because the you know, the monsters are fucking island anyway. But I'm not really a massive fan of Robin Wood. I know everyone fucking goes on about how amazing he is. Yeah, but his kind of comedy that it's like mega acting in the comedy sense. This is so like big. He had amazing moments. Yeah, but like this is really it really suits it in this version, and and then he can like act. I keep thinking about nominating Goodwill Hunting because he's fucking brilliant. He's amazing.
SPEAKER_00Garp. Did you ever see that one? The what is it? The the life of the Wife of Garp or the Wonderful World of Garp. Uh World According to Garp, isn't it? World According to Garp, it might have been. I haven't seen it. But I remember seeing that as quite young, and it's still scenes of that stay into my mind because it was quite an adult film, I think. I think it was a wood it might have been a Woody Allen kind of thing going on there as well. You'd have to Google that and find out exactly people will be shouting at me right now. But yeah, not everything he did was funny, like even with more the Morgan Mindy stuff, some of it was so off the wall, and every you'd get mad Americans just laughing with the canned laughter and all the rest of it, and don't know whether it was filmed before a studio audience laughter or whatever, but some of it was absolutely amazing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know he did have some some real highs, right? For me, some lows, but it really suited playing the genie.
SPEAKER_00You've got Avatar, that's a blue, and I'm just mentioning it really because Pete seems to be obsessed by it's one of the highest grossing films that's really gross in view.
SPEAKER_01And yeah, it's contributed very much. No cultural hinterland. Yeah, it's you know, some like cosplay and some you know, some good. Is that what it's about though? Porn stuff, I think. I couldn't bear it.
SPEAKER_02I turned the first movie off and I've got a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00I wasn't keen on it, and I've never watched another one. Like I watched the whole thing in the first one.
SPEAKER_02What was then like some people were so into it that there was this sort of phenomenon that they were getting they were going to see it and and having to go back and watch it and watch it, and then just getting sort of withdrawn and depressed about real life because it wasn't like is it Pandora? Yeah. Where they're from? I'm like, get a grip, it's a fucking film. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01But um, I know he can do whatever you want with your life and blah blah blah blah blah. But you do sort of think it would have been nice maybe if James Cameron hadn't spent 15 years making these movies and had made some other stuff.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well George. It's weird though, in it, because it obviously does connect with some people, just maybe not us. And Pete is one of those weird fucks it does connect with. I'd I'd like Pete here to explain himself and oh it would be how long have we got. Can you just can you just put it in a short text though? Yeah, I just made him to ask him. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I have an iconic i i Italian Eurodance group called I Fall 65.
SPEAKER_01Um blue bada beada beh.
SPEAKER_04That's which is uh an absolute iconic dance track from 1999. Yeah, makes it meculier. And also it appears in Iron Man 3, yeah, the big fat liar, yeah, The Smurfs, The Lost Village, yeah. Right. Of course it's Mummy.
SPEAKER_01I've heard it in loads of movies, actually. I mean Loser.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay. So, which is also the name of your sex tape. Yeah, but but yeah, it appears in all these films, and it's they're not actually blue, and despite their name, they are italian, they're not French. Oh yeah. Well, there you go. So I I know they're they I actually did the a bit of research. They, as these three guys, them as physical per people, haven't appeared in a film yet.
SPEAKER_01But can I have that? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Of course you can. Thank you. The side always does a good music one, but I don't think it'll be anything as good as that. A blue order. Chris Isaac.
SPEAKER_00It's the only one that comes to my mind.
SPEAKER_01Well, Blue Order. No. Okay. New Order, Blue Monday. Blue Monday, yeah. Same thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Best saying 12 inch record of all time.
SPEAKER_01Is it?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_01Oh, interesting. How about if I was to say here's one I made earlier? Blue Peter? Yeah, blue Peter.
SPEAKER_03Did you ever get a blue pita badge?
SPEAKER_01No. Did you have one?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_02What are they for? They they marked you out as a potential victim for sex traffickers. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I think if you contributed, if you were like one of those loser kids who contributed stuff to stuff you watch the television. They would send you a blue pita badge. Yeah. And I think they had like gold ones if you did some church or something, maybe.
SPEAKER_00Once or twice, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. They were famous for getting you to make stuff. The elephant at the end of the day. Appeals and yeah, animals shitting in the studio. And twice I think a lot of times they would hire kind of young, trendy presenters who would go on cocaine binges and they'd have to get rid of the bigger.
SPEAKER_00Kevin Bacon Bacon. Richard. Richard Bacon. Richard Bacon did it, yeah. Occasionally the dog would die and they'd have to explain it to upset kids next week or something.
SPEAKER_01And occasionally the garden was vandalised twice at least. I think the most recent one was in 2000. So yeah. There you go. People really must dislike the Blue Peter Garden to attack it twice. Wow. I want to say that one of them was Les Ferdinand.
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SPEAKER_01Look that up while huge accusation.
SPEAKER_02Look that up while I'm talking about my next one. Les Ferdinand attacked the Blue Peter Garden. 2001, Colon, a space odyssey, starts off with a load of gorils in the desert. Does uh sort of being sort of very primitive. Yeah. And then they touch a monolith and advance and one of them uses a bone as a tool and whack something, and then that flips up into the air, and that segues very nicely into spinning around, kind of orbiting spacecraft.
SPEAKER_01Was it? Well, he made a joke about it and has retracted it. It was just a bit of bad.
SPEAKER_02And then music that's playing whilst the spacecraft is is going around is the blue Danube. Ah, right.
SPEAKER_00That one. Nice. And that is composer by Derek Composer. Andrew Strauss used to open for England. That's it. 2005 Ashes. People probably told me it. It was Strauss. Johan Strauss. The second though. I think you were talking about the first, to be honest. You've segueing next into that would be The Blues Brothers. Which is one of the the cooler films, really, of No? I hear this film. Yeah, really. I really like this film. I I I thought it was, you know, the the the boys who have been had a rough upbringing and need to save their orphanage. They're gonna go and get the money it's needed, they break out of prison. You've got Belushi and Dan Ackroyd as the the blues brothers, don't take off their their glasses the whole time. You've got Aretha Franklin, you've got kind of muddy waters in this, you've got car chasers and thank you very much. And I'd like to thank all the just right at the end there, you know, when he's on the stage and he's he thanks everybody from the the police department who are there. He knows they're gonna be busted, but they of course get away with it. I don't know, I quite like this. I'm I'm getting a lot of negativity outside of of my own voice here. Uh I can't really remember. You can't remember it? No, I can't really remember it either, to be fair. I definitely watched it.
SPEAKER_02It was famous for the car crash, the amount of cars they got smashed.
SPEAKER_00There's loads of cars that got crashed and smashed and I reckon there's a good chance I wouldn't find any of it funny. It well, the music's good. Like, you know, uh you've got the the music's superb in it. It it's it's not a musical, but it's it's got musical numbers in it, and Arifa plays the the lady who's who's working in the the canteen or something, and she just lets them have it with respect and everything. It's just you see the fun that the they're having, the actors are having, Belushi and Ackroyd, and I don't know. I've always I watched it when I was quite young, and it's just one of those ones that I've I've probably not revisited very often.
SPEAKER_03Maybe sometimes like a 2000 one Blues Brothers 2000.
SPEAKER_00They might have gone back and rebooted, but I've only ever watched But it's good, it's good for me, and if we're talking blues, then the Blues Brothers gets in for me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04This is not necessarily to do with anything in the title, or he doesn't actually paint himself completely blue, but this is my friend in yours, Mel Gibson, in Braveheart. Oh yeah, where he has blue paint on his face. So he's not entirely covered in blue paint. Fredo enough, but yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll never take our lives.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there was never take our Fredo. He's very short as well, isn't he? We wasn't he did cover that off last week, Mel Gibson? Yeah, he's pretty short. He's shorter than Danny DeVito.
SPEAKER_02He's certainly shorter than he appears on screen. Really? Yeah, it's not shorter than Danny DeVito.
SPEAKER_00That's definitely made up right now.
SPEAKER_04Fucking hell, it's Hasbullah territory there. But yeah, Mel Gibson has William Wallace in The Braveheart with paint on his face. Willie Wall.
SPEAKER_01I am going to nominate, I think. Yeah, I am going to nominate. He's in love with a chicken named Camilla. He's prone to outrageous sort of stunts or things going completely wrong, and he's really an oddball. He's an alien. It's Gonzo from the Muppets, he's probably my favourite blue thing, I think. I think like many people I feel a kinship towards. Yeah. So that's what I'm going for, Gonzo.
SPEAKER_00Strong. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We watched Blue Steel. We watched Blue Steel. It's also it's not just a movie, it's also a look. Yeah. Derek Zoolander does that. And I have I've been on a run of Just can you do it for us? No. I can't wait to do it. It's like there you go. I've been on a run of nominating Twin Peaks, but there was a there's a sort of tenuous one, so I'm not gonna do that. I'm just gonna put in Cookie Monster. That's good as well. Because he's pretty iconic.
SPEAKER_00I was I was gonna have him myself. Okay, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do then. I'm gonna Well I'll go no let's go. We've we've got another one. I'm looking over at our bait album there. Yeah, yeah. Which we Jenko. With Mark Jenkins' original score for the film bait. Yeah. The the cover for that on vinyl is all in blue. Yeah. There's lots of blue with the the C, of course, within that adaption. I think this is monochrome, though. It is monochrome.
SPEAKER_02You should rotate those ones on the wall because I reckon that's probably worth a few quid. Yeah, we should. You wouldn't want it to get this the colours get bleached out of it.
SPEAKER_00We we should definitely play that as well. So you want to get that off there. We want to play that a little bit more actually because it's it's and there's Lawrence of Arabia in there as well. But I'm gonna I'm gonna add in bait for for my blueness. Chris?
SPEAKER_04I've got a Velociraptor that is called Blue, in which is a genetically modified velociraptor from Jurassic World franchise. Chris Pratt's one. Chris Pratt, and he is on this is just on the Jurassic Park Wiki fandom. It says that Blue is one of the most cunning Velociraptors of the pack, and in the film she's got over 40 commands in her youth. Blue fought with Echo for pack supremacy.
SPEAKER_02And they just kept on genetically modifying stuff. I mean they just did not learn, did they? No. You watched the most recent one with Scarlett Jansen?
SPEAKER_01I think I tried, but I gave up. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You probably well advised.
SPEAKER_04Maybe I'll go back. Even you would do that to a film that I would still probably go back.
SPEAKER_01It's just so passive generator.
SPEAKER_04You know what Rita said? Never go back.
SPEAKER_01Never go back. He did say that. He did say that. Oh, that's good advice. We need one more.
SPEAKER_02And then do we have to resynchronize the No, because it hasn't gone. It's been recording the whole time. Yeah, and he's been the That's the key. Don't stop.
SPEAKER_00Don't stop. Don't stop.
SPEAKER_02Everybody's moving. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's a bit of more musical, uh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, there's that does segue quite nicely into this week's main feature because we watched Three Colours Blue. The trickle. Christoph Chris Lowski. It's part one of a sort of trilogy exploring the themes of liberty, equality, and fraternity. Yeah. You think this one's supposed to be liberty? Yeah, I picked up on that afterwards when I read it, which was in a way. So I I I've sort of heard about these films, they're quite highly regarded, I think. Yeah. But I'd never seen them myself. So thought, why not? This is the good forum to try this sort of thing out.
SPEAKER_00Since we're we are in a you know podcast, we've been doing it for five minutes.
SPEAKER_02Riggs had let us know about the subtitles, and we had had previous drama with subtitles when it was traffic. I was nervous actually. So I thought, oh, right, well before we start, so there's a if you go onto Prime and you can subscribe to the Daniel Curzon channel, yeah. You get a seven-day free trial. So you can watch this legit without having to do some sort of illicit streaming activity. Yeah. And I thought while I'm on the settings thing, I'll go into the subtitles. No subtitles, it says, no subtitles or language options available for this movie. And I thought, oh, fuck me.
SPEAKER_01I was like, oh my god, this is the same thing that happened to Dad. I thought I'd have to watch it now.
SPEAKER_02And I have been trying to learn French. I thought, oh, this is really going to put my French linguistics to test. Yeah. And then what it means is that there are subtitles, you just can't fuck about with them, and they are the fucking gigantal ones that you free watching. It's probably half a screen taken well, that's a bit of exaggeration, but like a disproportionate amount of space is taken up by the subtitles.
SPEAKER_01And considering how many of the shots are like composed really carefully to show very specific images in specific places. And then you've just got these ridiculous subtitles.
SPEAKER_00To be fair though, I'm used to having the words on not like that, you're not. Not that size.
SPEAKER_02Not that big, but other services that I use where you can dictate the size of the most of them. But this is like bad eyesight kind of levels. Yeah, yeah, which I've been given.
SPEAKER_01Oh well actually what if we're still moaning about it then for Blue Steel, and that again was on the official Lionsgate channel, the subtitles were about three seconds ahead of the action. Oh really? No, you didn't, but if you switch it on, maybe you're right. If I'm eating a packet of crisps, someone might. Yeah, somebody might. If I'm eating a packet of crisps, I always need subtitles when I'm watching eating a packet of crisps because I can't hear fuck all apart from eating crisps. So Okay.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, this I think it starts off with some wheels turning. Yes. In a blue tinted kind of lens.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's a car barrelling it down, isn't it? And a little girl looking out the beach.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then she's got a wrapper. Yeah. And a kid is by the side of the road playing with a skateboard or a bike or I can't remember what it's like.
SPEAKER_01He's got one of those little balls on a stick, and he's trying to fucking fall with a hole, and the hole's gotta go into the stick. I did want to say just before that, it's a really trippy sequence when she's in the tunnel. Looking at the window. It's almost hallucinated. It's like 2001 when he goes into like hyperspace and he's like, oh, I don't know. Well that's it, and then she goes for a piss, doesn't she? The the back window, and anyway, they But we see the underside of the car, you see the brake fluid dripping down.
SPEAKER_00He's hitchhiking this young lad sat on the side of the road, sat on his skateboard, and at the moment he completely sink the ball on the stick, we hear the the clump thump of a car hitting a tree.
SPEAKER_01We watch him watch it happen, we don't get to see it.
SPEAKER_00We see the very aftermath of the city. And he kind of races over. What I liked about this is that he runs over and only part the way through he disregards the skateboard. And it's the kind of thing that you know you would just do without thinking. Very young. He's young and it it's just like a weird thing, but it was like you're watching him do something other than just run. He's dumping the the the skateboard, and when he gets to the car, he doesn't rush in a hundred miles an hour. He he really kind of looks and holds back a second, and then it cuts again to her being in the hospital.
SPEAKER_02Her hospital being informed that racious eye for all the lols.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, her husband and daughter were both killed. Both of these shots these are being told through the reflection of the doctor in her eye.
SPEAKER_00In her eye, and she actually gets told that her husband didn't make it, and she has to ask about her daughter. Yeah. Um and then she's told that she also didn't make it, and she kind of just closes off, and and the next time we see her um down some pills, she's she smashed the window to distract the city. Is that before or after the funeral?
SPEAKER_01I think they do the funeral first, because she that's where we get a little bit of exposition. She watches the funeral on TV because the husband was a famous composer, famous enough to have a a sort of day funeral. Exactly. Yeah. And even at the funeral, there's just this suggestion that will come through the background of the movie that actually he wasn't responsible for the music that he was accredited for, and actually she was. She was ghostwriting it. She was ghostwriting it potentially, yeah. But yeah, so we find out he's this big composer, and then you see the coffins, it's really sad. And then yeah, the next scene is her kind of breaking out, breaking a window, slipping past the nurse who goes to investigate and downing a bunch of. It was almost funny because she she necks like a whole bottle of pills, then it's like spit up. I was like, that's not the way to do it. That's you can't that's not gonna work.
SPEAKER_00They're they're so dry in her mouth she just can't do it, and she just kind of challenges can you eat a spoonful of flour or something? Also, it was cinnamon, yeah. But also, what is said to me, and you may have interpreted it differently. But that she wasn't going to take her own life, you know, that she there there was an opportunity. She could have forced those pills down, but she hadn't got so low. She was low at that point, but actually given the chance to do it.
SPEAKER_02I think when yeah, in the in the moment, then she decides to take another path because she immediately pivots onto this just detaching herself from fucking everything.
SPEAKER_01Everything, yeah. She she sort of disbands her life, gives all of her money to her gardener and her housekeeper. Lives in a fucking who says one of the most heartbreaking, she comes back crying, and she's like, Why are you crying? Well, I'm crying because you're not.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, she's seems just completely shut up. Yeah, she's got staff.
SPEAKER_01It's that big, so they have to be stuffed. To unify Europe. A European, yeah. Twelve countries in Europe.
SPEAKER_02They're gonna play it once in each country or something like that. Yeah, they're all gonna be working on the orchestras or something. So it's obviously a big deal. Yeah. But she's decided to clean, she makes a couple of phone calls, sell everything, like get rid of fucking everything. Yeah. The gaff, and this is not like a two-up, two down, this is a fucking chateau. It's this is large.
SPEAKER_01And Olivier, her her husband's sort of other collaborator. Scoop super horny, he sees his moment. Yeah, he's like really into her, it's really old. I've always loved her. This is not weird at all. He there's a big bit where she gets the unfinished manuscript, or is that what's that what it would be? The sheet music, yeah, and it's like verified it's this unfinished thing that he's writing for the European Union and they just destroys it.
SPEAKER_00Well, she throws it into the garbage truck that we've seen the claws inside, and she watches it get mangled and and trashed and everything, and she's quite happy that that's gone. And she just wants to leave it all behind. She doesn't want the memories.
SPEAKER_01She's going to see if she fucks Olivier before she goes.
SPEAKER_02She's got a mattress left and she fucks him and then and says, Fucking do one.
SPEAKER_00We see quite a lot of blue shading and lights at different times. Maybe just to show and we've seen it in lots of other films before, how colour can represent the feeling in in people and and maybe the loneliness, the isolation that she's felt at at different times is signified through these. It's a colour of mourning, don't it? It's around her sort of chocolate lollipop that she might be. The lolly itself was blue, did which Yeah, it's it just each time I saw the blue, it just made me think The swimming all the time. The alone, the aloneness. And that's what she's done. The isolation. She's abandoned all of her house.
SPEAKER_02She goes to see this real estate guy and says, I just want to I want a flat, you know, I'm just gonna stay in this flat. What do you do? Nothing. I don't work, don't worry about it. Money's not a problem. So she just holds up in Paris. But it's not it's not a she cuts off all friends, all family, all her possessions gone, everything's gone. She just wants to live anonymously.
SPEAKER_00It's an it's a nice, big, spacious flat, but it's not opulent or anything like that, and it's not, you know, it's got it's got space, but in the chateau that she's left.
SPEAKER_02She just likes to go out, sit on her own, have an affogato. She wants to live completely anonymously if she says because even like there's more misery to come because she goes to see her mother who's got dementia and doesn't quite recognise what's going on, and she says to her mother, it's a little bit later on, but you've al it's like explicit anyway, but she says, Can't have any of that. That you can't have any any family or fr or something, she says, 'cause that those are just traps. Yeah. So you're like, oh god, this is fucking bleak. So she likes to swim, she likes to get the cat. Yeah, it's always blue as well. A lot of black. And she's always wearing a black cock.
SPEAKER_00She could swim on. Yeah. She's quick, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01One thing as well is that occasionally the musical motif of this unfinished concert Cherto for Europe or whatever it is, just fucking blasts through the score of the thing. And there's a real dis like unsettling thing that they do where they edit with like cut to black for like half a second and then pick up exactly where you were before. It's very disorientating.
SPEAKER_02Is it where she's locked herself out? Yeah. And she just sees the prostitute come back with the fella. And that's right. So she's She looks up and smiles. She's on the show. And then the next day a lady comes and knocks on the door and says, Oh, listen, we I want you to sign this. We we we don't we can't be having loose women in the in the building. She's like I don't give a fuck, it's not something to do with me. So she ref she just refuses to get involved and sign. And so the the lady, is it Isabel? Yeah, yeah. She comes up and says, Oh, she's got a little bunch of flowers for her and says, Oh, thanks very much for for not signing, because they can't they can't kick me out without everybody agreed. Without being unanimous, so you've done me a solid there. And and they sort of strike up a friendship, and the next time she sees her as at the swimming pool, where she crouches down at the side of the pool, she's also got no like knickers on. Yeah. And she's like, Oh, do you do you not wear under it? She said, No, never. And she's like, What the fuck?
SPEAKER_03She's got the right mental scene.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she's at like eye level with with uh her knickers.
SPEAKER_02She's she's quite a pivotal character, actually. Because it kind of like the the middle of the film kind of just set just really like reinforces the fact that she's just really isolating herself from everything.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, and there's a load of like stuff that goes on, isn't there? Not necessarily it's just showing like the texture of her life. Like the guy, what's his name? Is it Antoine the Hitchhiker? Yeah, he turns up and he's like, Oh, you know, I sort of just wanted to tell you what your husband's you know, your husband's he said something. It was a punchline too.
SPEAKER_00It was a punchline to like a really like a bit of really shitty joke. He liked to repeat the punchline twice and that was it.
SPEAKER_02So he had found her necklace with a gold cross on it, and she says, I can't keep it, that'd be stealing. And she said, Well, thanks very much for returning it, but now you can have it. She just didn't want that.
SPEAKER_00No, no, that's it. And I thought that was quite a you know, because she took the call, he he'd managed to hunt her down for a doctor, this this young lad who had had the doctor. Pretty sure the doctor wouldn't be able to. Yeah, GDPR GDPR didn't quite exist as it does now. There's always been a pa doctor-patient confidentiality. But obviously, maybe the doctor thought it might do her good, you know, that she's she's been quite emotionally stunted or or whatever. I I'm not sure. But there's a thing with the mice as well, isn't there?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. She can't kill the mice, but then she'll get a cat. Then she will put the cat in there.
SPEAKER_02But she Isabel has to go and clean that up. But then she She gets a call fairly late at night, and it's Isabel saying, I need you to come and see me like right away. Yeah. Get a taxi, I'll pay for it, but I need you to come. It's like, well, what do you mean? It's a bit she's a bit sort of taken aback. It's like, look, I'm here at this address, just bring the buzzer and ask for me. But can you come now, please? I've never asked you for anything, but I need I need this. She's like, Yeah, fine. Okay. So she does, and she knows she's a sex worker anyway, but this is more of a more explicit about it. This is like peep show, but I think there's there's all sorts going on in here. Yeah. She's really upset. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because she's rubbing that guy's.
SPEAKER_02While they're literally having a proper heart to heart because she's been in this sex club and her fucking dad's in there. Yeah. So that's like not deficit. She's doing a surrender. And as she's saying the story, the guy comes up and he goes, Is it a Ronin Five? I need you to get me ready. And she's like fluffing him off.
SPEAKER_00Imagine Imagine that's your acting career, then yeah. That's so eventually, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So And then and she goes, Oh, is that you? And she's like, What do you mean? And she they look across the sort of balcony or whatever it is, and into the office. Yeah. The guy's got the telly on there's some sort of reportage. Yeah. And it's her on the telly. And she's like, What the fuck? And it's a thing about her husband's work and It's Olivia, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01Olivia's resurfaced. He's gonna he's got a copy of the concerto and he's gonna sort of publish it under his own name, sort of thing, or bring it out.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, he's hoping to finish it off and and complete this this twelve country thing project that they're working on.
SPEAKER_00And while she's watching it, there's a reporter there that's been there before who said she she wanted an interview with her, and she said, No, I'm not gonna do it. And She was the woman who's made first suggestion. I don't want to take a photo of you, and she takes an awful photo of her where she's just literally still got the bruising from the car crash and everything. Yeah. And she turned around, and that's the one they show on TV, and you just think, You fucking bitch, didn't it?
SPEAKER_02There's also a photo of another lady knocking about. Sandrine and other. Husbands having mistresses. Yes, he did have a mistress. She goes, she reconnects for for a couple of reasons. She wants to know what he's fucking doing with it. She's like, I fucking destroyed that that music. Yeah. And the lady, well, she first of all it's the lady says, Yeah, well, I made a copy because I knew you would. You can't destroy it's just yours to destroy.
SPEAKER_01Disgruntled goat about that. But the thing is, as well, there's been a suggestion that actually the the sort of central motif that they're trying to augment the start of the piece, that he overheard it potentially in Paris from a guy who's playing it in the street on a guy on the recorder. With the recorder. They call it flute, but I'm like, that's a recorder, does it? That's fucking recorder, yeah. So that's she's been kind of inspired by that as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and also when she confronts what's the chap she ends up seeing, Olivia. Olivia, he goes, Did was he seeing someone else? He goes, Yeah. Like, didn't you know? How long's it been going on? Oh, like years. Yeah. I mean, this was it was a long affair that she had, and we find out He's obvious obviously been waiting in the wings a long time. Yeah, and he found out that Well, she finds out as she tracks it down that she's a lawyer, she follows her back to a cafe. Not only that. She goes down to her toilet, and we see for the first time actually, she's pregnant. Fucking hell, she's and she rather than becomes very angry, she she inquires she's curious about. She doesn't react the way you think she might, isn't she? The other yeah, the other lady is is kind of you'll hate me, now you'll hate him as well, referring to the son. She she turns her uh kind of emotions that she could think it would be hate and anger and all the rest of it into more of an acceptance and a love and and a way of dealing with it. Well, she's a life. Well, as she's you know, I'm I'm thinking as of the film as a whole because she sh isolated herself, you know, she's isolated herself from from the city.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think she's really tried to, but there's just always something that somebody's pulled her back.
SPEAKER_00Something that drags her back. Whether it be Olivia, whether it be Sandrine, these different characters have have pulled her back, and she's got an amazing amount of goodness in her and capacity to forgive, which her husband also said to Sandrine, he said, because she says at one point, didn't she? Says, Oh my god, so much about you, and that you were really good and you know, that I could count on you. Yeah. And without her having said that first, she's proved it, you know.
SPEAKER_02She said, Look, I um don't sell the house to the to the So the house obviously hasn't gone through, and she takes it back there and says yours and just just fucking blindsides him saying it's yours now, you know, look after the kid, uh, you know, if you've got a name for him and all this nice.
SPEAKER_00And it's a little boy that she's gonna have, and then she goes back to Olivia and says, Oh, let's finish that fucking piece then.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean clearly she was the brains behind all the Yeah, she was ghostwriting.
SPEAKER_00That's it. She just gave, gave, gave, and where she didn't want that, you know, light, she didn't want that kind of attention. They fuck again, don't they? They do. They do. Well, there's some glass involved. This there's a lot of reflections and she's her face is smudged up, I think. I guess.
SPEAKER_01Virtually every important piece of information that drives the plot on is delivered either via reflection or somebody speaking through a pane of glass.
SPEAKER_00And and then we get in twelve Well, we get a little bit about the music, they finish off the concerto.
SPEAKER_02She gets conflicted about whether she wants him to do it or not. Yeah. Because they work on it for a little bit and you think, oh, she's gonna come back into the world, and then she's like, actually, she has second thoughts about that again. Yeah. She's like, No, actually I don't think it's right. And he's like, Well, does he say I'm gonna do it anyway? Yeah. And it is obvious that this guy's been hoping to she was shot with her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he's well horny for her.
SPEAKER_01And then she she does agree to have this concerto release, which is played, I think, at the end, but she wants to be uncredited for it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and then we get the bit there this is where it totally lost me in terms of what I was supposed to know and think, where it would get a load of sort of biblical somebody's first John's letter to the Corinthians.
SPEAKER_02With that with that love, I'm nothing or something. Yeah. Because she said, Oh, you can't have that because then you just end up getting hurt.
SPEAKER_01It's a lot of things that people have it at their weddings, don't they?
SPEAKER_00I think it's like the Apostle Paul or something, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01That it it's basically that whole Bible passage that just gets read out over the music as they're they're kind of making And then we get the sort of Donnie Darko ending, don't we, where it's like the music playing and over the sort of various people that she's intersected or touched with, Sandrine the lawyer, and Yeah. She still had a positive impact on all these people. Well, she's sort of I suppose right, I don't really know you know, I know this is a very well discussed movie and has lots of religious allegory and stuff about it, but to me it was just a portrait of grief and somebody who'd shut themselves down and turned themselves off to the like love in any shape or form in the world, and then watching her suddenly open herself back up to just that possibility.
SPEAKER_00For me, this was an easy watch, to be honest. Like not in the the sense that of the subject matter, but in the sense that the the film making itself and the way that it was shot, the music, the the pace of it with the dialogue. I particularly like the parts in the cafe when she was just there and and just those shots outside with a flute maker and all those kind of scenes where she was just having a a a coffee and ice cream and and the way that it moved the film on. There was one point where she scraped loads of knuckles on it. Oh, that was horrible. She punishes herself after she sleeps with Olivia the first time and scrapes her knack. She scrapes her knuckles along the wall. But she must have done that.
SPEAKER_02Someone must have done that for real, because it's a hand it looks horrible. There's no way that that's fake.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, and and then afterwards you see her in the next shot in the cafe, but her hand is healed. It doesn't especially go on to the the hand, but you can see down that a hand is healed, and everybody's eyes will will draw down to how's your hand now like because we've just seen you fuck it up against a really rough kind of cemented wall, and it's healed. So you know that time has moved on, and the the the waiter says, Oh, the usual. So again, you know that she's she's been there a while. You know, that and I just like the way that the the filmmaker moved on time like that in just a very that's clever storytelling, different storytelling, and and there was lots of that throughout the film. Even the the part where the the flute guy had come out of a very expensive car and it looked like he just spent the night with you know a madame or or someone who's who and then he just goes onto the street and everything. There was just lots of different levels of well, what does that mean to you and what does how does that happen? This is obviously a very well kind of regarded film in in filmmaking. I hadn't seen it before. It was it was the first time, and I haven't seen colours white or red either, which which would you be tempted to after watching this? Trilogy I would be, yeah. And I I think I although looking at the reviews afterwards, which I I've done since I watched the film, I didn't do it before, but I watched it. This is the best of the three, is it they say.
SPEAKER_01I still keep thinking about that shot of where she was dipping the sugar in her coffee.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And the sugar is like the coffee goes. Just shooting up, and there's so there's loads of really nice shots in filmmaking. It's just interesting. It the the pool scenes, just watching us with the editing. I thought it was really, really well put together, and it just goes to to show how a film actually with without the action, without the the kind of cum shots. The cum shots, thank you. That's the words I was looking for. Those money shots. Yeah. It can still, for me, just make you feel something throughout it, and it it's one of those that will I'll think about, you know, over the next few months or or whatever it is. And I'll I'll go I'll go and watch them at some point for sure.
SPEAKER_02What was your take? I really enjoyed it. Yeah, I guess you could see some people watch this and maybe could you could accuse it of being a little bit pretentious, possibly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think you could, yeah. It definitely is pretending in the literal sense of it definitely is pretending as well to be about something else, most of which went over my head.
SPEAKER_02But yeah. But actually I think the crux of the actual story is very simple. Someone who's devastated and is just doing a coping strategy, which doesn't really work, sort of. And the fact that the runtime is pretty brisk as well, it's probably similar to Blue Steel, it's about an hour forty, maybe tops. Yeah. So it doesn't overstep its welcome and there's enough in there visually, I think it's great. I think Juliette Binoche's fucking brilliant in it. She's really exceptional performance. So I really enjoyed it. Binoche cake. Yeah. What do you think, Riggs?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, good mature themes. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, it's clean sweet from the trois.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I definitely thought this was a banger.
SPEAKER_02And Matt.
SPEAKER_00Well, there you go. Maybe we will do a white or a red theme and you may see the the trick-color, the the full trick-colore, yeah, come out later. Cool.
SPEAKER_01Right. Some kind of recommend then, I guess. Strong. Strong. Strong. Blue recommend.
SPEAKER_02Blue recommend. Strong blue recommend. Which means after blue week, the conclusion of blue week, I think it's Riggs to nominate.
SPEAKER_01No, I think it's gotta be you, isn't it? I nominated last time.
SPEAKER_02Oh no, yeah, we bullied you in this, so yeah, it is one of you two.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, I will say Memories of Murder. Oh. Because that is on Danny Curzon Street as well. And my f is it?
SPEAKER_02I don't know what that is. Okay, so uh Misty Watercoloured Memories of a Murder, 2003.
SPEAKER_00It's a South Korean joint.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's Boon Jong-ho, okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I've not seen it before, uh, but that is gonna kick us off. I was thinking of pig. Oh yeah, I haven't seen that. The Nick Cage one. Yeah, do it. Well, let's do that then. So that's gonna be our movies. Why don't you at home watch these this week as well and join us next week to discuss what we thought of them?
SPEAKER_01Is that because Bong Jun Ho did this one and then he did this He did Okja and then it made you think of because it's a giant pig in that, and that's why we're doing it.
SPEAKER_00That may be the way my mind thinks, it may not be. Let's find out next week. I've just reached it, do you? Reach around.
SPEAKER_02All that remains is to say tidy tiny out. Reads has left the building. Lot of a day.
SPEAKER_04Dan's gone.
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