Blue & Three Colour: Blue
In this episode of Bad Dads Film Review, Sidey, Dan, Reegs and Cris review Krzysztof Kieślowski’s Three Colours: Blue (1993), starring Juliette Binoche as Julie, a woman who survives the crash that kills her husband and daughter and then tries to cut herself off from grief, memory and human connection. The dads discuss the film’s place in the Three Colours trilogy, its theme of liberty, the opening crash, Julie’s failed overdose, the destroyed concerto, Olivier, Lucille, Sandrine, the swimming-pool scenes, the use of blue, the sudden cuts to black, the recurring music, the sugar cube shot, the huge streaming subtitles and Binoche’s exceptional central performance. Verdicts are unanimously strong, with Dan wanting to watch the rest of the trilogy, Sidey praising the brisk runtime and visuals, and Reegs calling the film a banger.
This week on Bad Dads Film Review, Sidey, Dan, Reegs and Cris review Krzysztof Kieślowski’s Three Colours: Blue, the first part of the director’s famous trilogy inspired by liberty, equality and fraternity. This is the liberty one, although the film’s idea of freedom is less “joyful self-expression” and more “what if grief made you sell your life, bin the furniture, delete your feelings and move into a Paris flat with only a blue lamp for company?”
Juliette Binoche stars as Julie, a woman who survives the car crash that kills her composer husband and young daughter. After a failed suicide attempt, she decides not to die but to detach from everything: the house, the music, the money, the memories, the people and any emotional bond that might hurt her again. Unfortunately for Julie, life keeps refusing to leave her alone. A witness from the crash returns her necklace, a neighbour draws her into an unlikely friendship, Olivier tries to complete the great unfinished concerto, and the discovery of her husband’s pregnant mistress forces Julie to confront what compassion might look like after devastation.
The dads talk about the huge Prime subtitles, the opening crash, the funeral, the failed overdose, the destroyed manuscript, the swimming-pool scenes, the blue lighting, the sugar cube, the street musician, Lucille and the sex club, Julie’s mother, the mistress Sandrine, the concerto for Europe, and the way the film uses reflections, glass, music and sudden cuts to black to show memory and grief breaking through Julie’s carefully constructed numbness.
Verdicts are a clean sweep. Dan finds the filmmaking so strong that the heavy subject matter becomes surprisingly easy to watch, and he now wants to see the rest of the trilogy. Sidey thinks some viewers might accuse it of being pretentious, but for him the story is simple, moving and beautifully made, with Juliette Binoche giving an exceptional performance. Reegs loves it and calls it a banger. The official Bad Dads verdict: a strong blue recommend.
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Three Colours Blue
Dan: [00:00:00] But how do you know it's me that's gone red and not Chris
Sidey: Or- Because I saw you press a button and it,
Dan: Oh, right. That, that would give it away. And we're talking red, but actually it's a blue week.
Sidey: is blue week. Yeah, we've already discussed Blue Steel. Yeah. Yeah. Which we all loved. Jamie
Reegs: I typed blue movies into Google for top five research, I got some very, very interesting hits.
Sidey: It just came back to your favorite pages, didn't it?
Reegs: Yeah.
Sidey: Yeah,
Reegs: Yeah,
Sidey: it is blue week. Sidney, what inspired this?
Reegs: The
Sidey: Colors, I think. Never seen them, so I wanted to do that. So
Dan: movie that we are going to- What? ... review a little bit later, 'cause it came
Reegs: about, is it your favorite color? I
Sidey: No. Do you want me to color? I don't, I don't don't have a favorite color. I think we... Did... When we did Bluey, did we do top five blue things then?
Reegs: Oh, maybe.
Sidey: Possibly. We're gonna do it again. Yeah.
Dan: Okay. It's come back round again. Yeah, this is Three Colors
Sidey: Dan, hold it there. I think everyone is chomping at the bit to find out what happened in walking
Dan: you're right. Yes. [00:01:00] God, we've gone early. It's an exciting week because we're up against it because some players had decided to take preseason a little bit early-
Sidey: Yeah. A little bit early. I was away, I missed the game. It's against one of our- And Jock ... big rivals. Yeah, so the goalie, most importantly, the goalie was away.
Dan: McCammon.
Reegs: who played in goal then?
Cris: goal then?
Sidey: we normally have a good backup goalie, but he couldn't play, so we had to put one of the outfield players- Ooh
Cris: who was actually really good
Dan: Hesiano Ballesteros. Yeah.
Sidey: to go
Cris: was really good.
Sidey: He's...
Dan: He, he throws himself around. He's good, he's good at everything, Hesy, isn't he?
Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know.
Dan: He was, And
Sidey: that was gonna be, you know, tough 'cause they've got really good forward guy, guy called Noli.
Noli. Yeah, he's
Dan: top scorer every year.
Sc- scored five in the last game. Yeah.
Reegs: So backs to the wall, no first team or sub keeper, an outfield player in goal, so I'm assuming it all went horribly wrong for you,
Cris: it? And Pete was in [00:02:00] attendance.
Reegs: And Pete was there. Yeah.
Dan: So you had the Pete ef- the Pete effect as well. Yeah. But we managed to muddle through.
We managed to- Got top of you. Chris was there supporting. Yeah.
Reegs: That made up for Pete
Dan: Made up for Pete maybe. It, it probably balanced it out quite nicely. Youngster, young lad came on. He got a couple. Yeah. And we won 2-1. What is the... At
Reegs: I think is the- Yeah ... you have to be. Yeah. So what, somebody on the cusp of 45 or- Josh,
Cris: 45 or-
Dan: just scraped in. No,
Cris: got two goals.
Sidey: Oh, you did. Yeah,
Dan: I did. Yeah. Which was really,
Cris: should have had the third one.
Reegs: Yeah.
Dan: I should've had a second before I had
Cris: Yeah, okay. But,
Dan: an absolute s- like one-on-one with the keeper. No pressure and-
Cris: to the right, but, but it's still a good angle, but-
Dan: didn't even hit the target. Like, Yeah ... the ball is still going
Cris: dragged it, yeah.
Sidey: going now. A pagad. Drag net, yeah. Just missed. Drag net.
Dan: Yeah. It was an absolute- But
Cris: absolute-
Reegs: But what, did you keep them out as well at the other end or?
Dan: we did for the first half and then they equalized 1-1. Andy another one of their players, very good. I think he was [00:03:00] player of the year in Jersey the first season- Yeah
or the
second
Sidey: right. He's a good lad. He's,
Dan: he's good. A good lad, yeah, yeah.
Cris: yeah.
Dan: And then Russ sent over a corner
Sidey: Yeah
Dan: and our old c- corner routine paid off finally and, and I managed to-
Sidey: Said, "We are top of the league" ... score in the second. "We are top of the league." So yeah, he,
Cris: shot, hit the post, rebound, goal in the back of the
Dan: of the net.
First to react, Riggs. Yeah.
Reegs: Oh. Yeah. Nice. Shooting like Gavin. And who's top scorer in the league?
Sidey: I think it's Nolly. Probably still Nolly. Yeah. 'Cause
Dan: got, as I say, like five in one game.
Reegs: That'll help.
Dan: but we- we're just
Sidey: Play three, one, three ... points. Yeah. You can't say fairer than that then.
Dan: Happy with that.
So that's the walking-
Sidey: I can't pronounce my Fs and my
Reegs: Rs. We can't say
Sidey: Rs. Well, you can't say fairer than that then.
Reegs: Exactly.
Dan: my Rs. We can't say fairer than that. Yeah. Was
Reegs: And miss- missing the heartbeat of the team in-
Dan: Yeah, it was. There was some- Yeah ... nerves. But the lads stepped up and, oh, one of the best moments of all time was Zizu's [00:04:00] step over that just sold a dummy to one of their players.
And he just went down the line and like, in walking football, it, it was... It's like he'd gone full pace, hadn't it? Yeah. You were right next to
Cris: touchline beside I was right in
Dan: was on your side. That
and,
Cris: and,
the chef shuffle where he did two of them. He just shuffled left and right, and he just shuffled the ball quickly, and you could see both of them just went one way, and when he moved the other way, they just both
Sidey: went just like they were
Dan: on the floor. I just thought,
Cris: Oh. Oh, it was amazing.
Dan: the Shepherd shuffle was brilliant. He can still... He... I mean, my hip would just drop out- Yeah ... I think, if I was to try anything like that.
Sidey: So we've got
Reegs: we've got
Dan: got Gribble
Sidey: next, and then I think we might not have a game for a month, so time to- Yeah
to, you know, just recover.
Cris: Yeah. Recharge the batteries, go to the spa.
Sidey: intense. Yeah.
Reegs: Hit the training ground.
Dan: I- We will ... yeah, we, we probably will. We'll need to get a few set pieces and friendlies in. But we'll do it probably with a little mix
Sidey: of- Yeah ... club
Dan: as
Reegs: well. Have you got a set piece coach?
'Cause that's all the rage now in the
Dan: Have you got a set piece, coach? 'Cause that's all the rage now in the- Are you putting your hand up?
Reegs: [00:05:00] do have. Well, what, you need somebody to come
Dan: Yeah. Yeah, you're only around the corner from our
Reegs: from our
training,
ground. Yeah,
Sidey: from
Dan: our training ground.
Sidey: Yeah, so, right, I watched The Homework which was looking a bit dicey actually 'cause I only got back from holiday yesterday lunchtime.
I managed to- Mm ... squeeze both movies in yesterday. And I also, while we're away, managed to watch The
Reegs: The Day
Dan: The
Sidey: Day After Tomorrow. Okay. Yeah. The freezy one. Yeah. Which was good. Dennis Quaid. Yeah. So there, that.
Dan: I watched Vigil, which is a BBC kinda series. Okay. And it's pretty good. I would recommend it actually.
It was almost gonna be- Like, a
Sidey: now it is- See, they canceled Drag Race though
Dan: Drag Race, though ... They what,
Sidey: They canceled Drag Race.
Dan: Oh, really? Mm. Oh.
Sidey: That might hit you hard. That,
Dan: that, that's gone. Mm. This was a,
Sidey: a, a
Dan: a six-part miniseries, but now there's two other series, and you'll know it... If you watch it, it's on BBC.
[00:06:00] In the first 10 minutes you'll know if it's for you or not. Mm. So you only have to give it 10 minutes and, and think- Right ... I'm into this, or I'm not, and it'll keep you watching. I think you'd like it, Chris.
Cris: What is it called? Vigil. Vigil,
Dan: It's on BBC iPlayer. Okay. And it is k- kind of fast-paced dialogue and everything.
But there's enough going on there that kept me interested and although the missus fell asleep at the end of every episode I think that was more just to the time of, time of night. And I also watched Lawrence of Arabia again.
Sidey: Oh, really?
Dan: Yeah. Did you? Which is just... I just put it-
Cris: you
Reegs: watch the- f- four and
Dan: know. It's three and a half. Three and a
Reegs: half. When did you
Dan: but, When did you watch it? First mission ... I just put it on. It's on BBC iPlayer as well. Yeah. And I just put it on, I thought I'll just watch the first, sort of,
Reegs: Five
Dan: minutes ... 20 minutes of this. And then it was like... And it just goes so quick.
Okay. It's such a brilliant film. Riggs, what did you think of Lawrence of Arabia?
Cris: Arabia?
Reegs: I'll let you know when
Dan: Yeah, I can't believe it. Honestly, that's probably the f- fifth or sixth time [00:07:00] I've seen it. Yeah ... and I'll watch it. I'll definitely watch it. I'll definitely watch it again. Another year's old.
It's just brilliant. Yeah.
Sidey: Yeah.
It's,
Dan: it's been a little while. Since we did it for the pod was probably the last time I watched it which was-
Sidey: Couple years
Dan: couple of years ago. Yeah.
Reegs: Did you watch it as well?
Sidey: well? Not recently.
Reegs: But for the pod?
Cris: I don't think so.
Sidey: No, I think it was
Reegs: you have seen
Sidey: it was Pete that week 'cause Pete was dis- disappointed in you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Dan: So I watched it again- He's ... and it's still magnificent. And then I started going into a bit of a Lawrence YouTube
Sidey: YouTube
Dan: hole and looking at the real life thing of it. Because in the movie actually, they, they have him in this big church and lots of people going to his...
'Cause it starts off with
Sidey: this- Yeah.
He's in the Guy Manntix roadshow as well to watch. Yeah. It's good, yeah. Yeah, fantastic. Yeah.
Dan: And, Wow ... well, he lived down the road at where my sister's got a, a flat- Yeah ... a, a half
Sidey: Is there a plaque?
Dan: Yeah. And there's a plaque, yeah. But actually the, the real-life church that he ended up a- [00:08:00] being buried at is quite a small church and...
But they had this kind of old Pathé, you know, footage- Yeah ... of Churchill going there and everything. You know, all these people going, just... This was a man who did something very, very special and was able to bring these kind of tribes together that otherwise were fighting- Right ... within themselves and everything and to overthrow the, the Turks at the time and really- Okay
changed the, the way the, the war in, in that region, you know? It was, But brilliant, brilliant movie and a complex man and all the rest of it. But Peter O'Toole, just fantastic. How he never won the Oscar for that, I don't...
Sidey: that, I don't- Dunno.
Chris, you were, you were poorly last week.
Cris: Yeah, I wasn't very well.
I, I really struggled, especially
Sidey: out what it was, what was up?
Cris: think it was heat exhaus- exhaustion and, like, severe dehydration. I didn't really... I went to, to do the yoga, but hot yoga and [00:09:00] then I came to see you boys at the walking football and I was fine. But I got home and I, I think I didn't drink enough water and I kinda-
Sidey: Crashed out.
Cris: Yeah, I was honestly... The Sunday and then Monday, I couldn't make it to work on Monday. I was
Dan: just- Yeah, it's not like you at all. I, No ... can't remember the last time you missed work. So, Even ill I've seen you there. Do
Reegs: get other people's sweat on you at the hot yoga?
Cris: No. No.
Sidey: Only when Pete does it I extra for that. No, no,
Cris: you have your own mat and, you know, you're in your own- Pete
Sidey: Pete does it fully nude. Nice.
Cris: Yeah.
Dan: No, he's ... He, he, he has got, like, a thong. It's just that thin.
Sidey: Oh,
Dan: looks fully
Sidey: nude. It's flesh
Reegs: modesty
Cris: made out of the fish rod, the
Dan: The fishing- Yeah,
Sidey: Oh yeah, the cheese wire. Yeah.
Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have
Cris: watched one thing which I'm pretty sure was either not the Monday night because I stupidly wanted to watch the toon, got battered by
Sidey: Leeds. Oh yeah, yeah, bad one.
Cris: I watched, I... It might have been Tuesday night, one of the nights, I watched a film called Mayday. And it's probably one, again, one of the, the worst films
Sidey: real highlight, was
Cris: life. Right. It's a 20- [00:10:00] 26 Apple TV,
Sidey: right
Cris: thing with Ryan Reynolds and,
Sidey: oh, I've gone right off him. He's got a,
Dan: Oh, I can't write off him.
He's got a ... He's just phoning them in these days, isn't
Cris: Oh my God, honestly, it's Ryan Reynolds and Kenneth Branagh
Reegs: Brana Oh,
Sidey: I saw them doing a load of publicity for it.
Yeah Do you know what? It
Cris: It is- Don't know ... a shocker
Reegs: Oh, dear.
Cris: I, it, for me, you know how it looks like Yeah And I'm not, I'm not, look, I'm not a critic. I like to watch films. Some of them I'm not very good at judging.
I just like what I like and whatever. Yeah. But it looked to me that they basically got these two actors, and they had an idea where he's a, he's like a Top Gun pilot, right? He's like this assassin it's his nickname, like Maverick and whatever, and he goes behind enem- enemy lines in Russia in the '80s or late '80s, and he-
Dan: Ryan Reynolds?
Cris: Yeah He crashes in Siberia or somewhere. This guy saves him, and he's an ex-KGB agent, and they need to escape basically and whatever. But it's... So that's the idea, and I think whatever they did, Apple TV was like,
"Right, well, what's the
[00:11:00] budget? This. We'll spend all our money on Ryan Reynolds and this guy because we've seen them before in, in films, and they're- Yeah
they've got faces and names," and the rest of it is just... honestly was so poorly made. And I'm not an expert, but you know when they film something that is meant to be communist Russia- Mm ... and the buildings all have air conditioning units on the
Sidey: outside? Yeah.
Dan: Mm.
Cris: And you can see, they, they're outside in these communist-looking buildings, but you can see the AC unit outside, and I'm like
"You've got CGI now.
You just lied to me." Yeah. Just, just do- Yeah, yeah ... everything in a green
Dan: Just those two actors don't even seem suited to each other, to be honest though,
Sidey: No, I saw them on,
Reegs: I just- No, it's a weird combination, isn't it? Yeah.
Sidey: I saw them on Trackstar, which is something I watch on YouTube where they just have to... You know, they play five seconds of a song, and they have to guess it.
And them being paired up to do that was really weird. They didn't really have any chemistry
Dan: No. No, I d- I just don't see
Cris: wasn't
Sidey: great. Not a strong recommend. That's
Cris: Not a strong- This, that's not a strong recommend. Yeah. I probably have watched something else, but because I wasn't really feeling very well- Yeah ... I- Out [00:12:00] of it
I'm pretty sure I watched some series. Oh, do you know I watched the Reacher
Reegs: Yeah.
Cris: And I couldn't- Stand it. No, no, I couldn't, I, I ... The first or five episodes, I was just like, "Do you know what? This is actually..." I still didn't understand why he had to kill everyone instead of just trying to get some information from someone- Yeah, yeah
instead of just killing
Reegs: Killing everyone, yeah.
Cris: he could even ask a question of w- who sent you, where are you fro- you know, anything. He just deduced that, oh, they're from Venezuela because- Yeah ... they sliced someone's neck in a certain way. Yeah. But-
Reegs: But
Cris: couldn't care less about anything else.
Like- Yeah ... I've got them in the boot of the car, but instead of shooting in the leg, no, I'm gonna shoot them in the back and kill
Sidey: them. He's, he's
Dan: an expert in Colombian neckties or Venezuelan neckties. Yeah. Yeah. It's
Reegs: Yeah. So
Cris: that, but then because it just kinda kept dragging on a little bit, I just, towards the end, I, I, I didn't finish the season to know- Finish the season to know
Reegs: [00:13:00] to know
Cris: who did it or what the whole- Yeah ... purpose of who- whoever it was. They
Reegs: were running counterfeit money through Margrave. It was the guy's son was really the big villain at
Cris: The guy with the Jeep, with like the truck looking-
Reegs: kind of thing. He's k- f- Reacher kills him in a, in a shootout in the last episode.
Yeah. Right, okay. Finlay you know, the Black copper.
Cris: The tweed man?
Sidey: Yeah. Yeah.
Reegs: He takes off his tweet and goes die hard in a vest. Oh, no. And yeah. So,
Sidey: you see on Discord, Preachy was very worried that we might have spoilers for the last episode of season four.
Reegs: Oh, right. Okay. No. We were out of the
Sidey: were out the week off.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So I had to reassure her, don't worry.
Reegs: No, it was fine, but it was similarly
Cris: that because it's easy, right? Yeah. You just put it on and
Sidey: it's like, all right, yeah.
Dan: It is
Cris: he's gonna kill everyone. Yeah. Yeah. It does- there's no logic. Yeah. But
Reegs: It's just good fun
Cris: just gonna kill everyone.
I kinda
Reegs: like
the fact that his catchphrase is, "Okay." It's like an amazing catchphrase.
Sidey: you finish it off?
Reegs: Yeah, I finished it all, man. I finished it
Cris: four seasons?
Sidey: [00:14:00] Yeah.
Reegs: I watched three of them while we were on our France trip.
Sidey: Nice. And what about last week? Anything new? My
Reegs: week? Anything new? My eldest has just got into The Hunger Games.
Sidey: Oh, right.
Reegs: And has become obsessed by The
Dan: that's a good one. Are you watching it with them?
Reegs: We've watched the first one. It's okay, the first one, but I- It
Dan: okay. The... I mean, to watch something with your kids that you can actually get into and
Reegs: your interests almost overlap or intersect- Yeah ... in some particular
Dan: I enjoy that, yeah.
Reegs: I think the s- the follow-ups have got potential to be more interesting as they get more budget. The first one suffered from a bit of lack of budget, I
Dan: And it, it does. They do get better. Have you... You've seen them before though, have you? No,
Sidey: No,
Reegs: I haven't. So- Oh, right
Dan: then you're in for a bit of a treat
yeah. I think they, they get better and better actually. Is
Sidey: this
Cris: Is this a series or the films?
Reegs: a series of films.
Sidey: it? Oh. Is
Cris: the one with Jennifer Lawrence? Yes. Jennifer- I've seen the first one.
Reegs: Yeah.
Sidey: Yeah, I didn't like it. Yeah.
Cris: Yeah, it wasn't really for me. It's there's a guy, the...
What's the guy's name? S-s- Gar- Jayda or something.
Dan: I don't know
Cris: know. The, the... [00:15:00] Oh, what the fuck? There's Katniss and there's-
Reegs: Peter
Cris: Peeta. Yeah, Peeta. Peeta
Reegs: Peter Mellark.
Sidey: name. Yeah.
Cris: Yeah.
Reegs: Peter Stupid Name. Yeah.
Cris: Yeah. Anyone called
Sidey: called Peter, don't want to know. Peter.
Reegs: So if there's a good one, it's a good chance that we'll end up doing one on the pod- Well, I-
Dan: I've... Yeah. Well, I've done... Make it one of the, the last ones, 'cause I think I haven't seen the last one with
Reegs: There's Mockingjay Part 1 and Part 2- Yeah ... and then there's another one after
Dan: I think that's the one that we
Sidey: are- Are they prequels as well? Or is that- So how many,
Cris: how many in total, how many films are there?
Dan: There's lots of books. There's lots of books, and I think they made a film a book. It
Reegs: it's very inspired by Battle Royale. Yeah.
Dan: Yeah.
Sidey: assume you've just watched that, to be honest. Okay. But yeah. That's a really long, long intro. Shall we just talk about blue stuff? Yeah. Yeah.
Right. I just said top five blue. Yeah. And then you can interpret that. You
Dan: Didn't give much away,
Sidey: However literal or abstract- [00:16:00] Yeah ... really up to you. Let's talk about penis. Yeah ... Dr. Manhattan. Yeah. Yeah. From Watchmen, which I fucking love. Yeah. Yeah, it's a strong- I actually started watching that again, the series of that, 'cause I've only seen it the once
Reegs: Oh, the series is good as well. Brilliant. Are they? Yeah.
Cris: many seasons?
Sidey: one. It's
Reegs: one season of that, Chris. Oh, there is. So it could be, That's interesting for me ... yeah. Yes, it
Dan: you'd like it. I
Cris: like the film. I really like the film.
Dan: Very-
Sidey: take it on a-
Dan: noir
Reegs: dark noir.
Sidey: noir ... a different kind of ... The thing, I don't know. Anyway. The
Reegs: Doc Manhattan's pretty
Dan: true to the comic
Sidey: Yeah, so he, he's a dude he's a scientist who's a total nerd, and they're doing some sort of experiments about stuff. It's not clear what they're actually experimenting on at all. Some sort of
Reegs: Quantum stuff ... quantum stuff.
Sidey: And his watch is, for some, for some reason, he's taken off his watch and left it in the ch- the the chamber.
Cris: Oh,
right,
Sidey: And he goes to get it, and it locks, and it's a time lock where there's no override to to stop that process.
Dan: It must have been a Casio.
You don't go back for anything
Sidey: [00:17:00] It, well, it was an analog one. It wasn't digital, that's for sure. And so his missus has to sort of watch through all the things.
She does turn her back on him- Yeah ... while he's just basically eviscerated, evaporated even. He's just completely gone. Disintegrated. And then is able to... He's not dead. He's some sort of consciousness around, and the first trick he says later on, "The first trick I learned was how to, like, reform my physical being."
But
Reegs: trick I learned was how to, like, reform my physical being." There's like ... You see him just reassembling his, like, central nervous system
Sidey: they say. First of all, his central nervous system is spotted just outside in a corridor- ... and, and he's like, "Ugh,
Cris: he's like,
Sidey: and he's able to perceive all of time all at the same time. He's, Yeah ... omnipotent.
Reegs: Yeah. He can see past, present, and future all at the
Sidey: Yeah. And I- Be like hipster wanker, but I prefer the way it's done in the book Yeah the, the panels where he's the main bit of the story are fucking brilliant.
Reegs: I g- really controversially think that the change for the movie where they blame it on Manhattan is better than the b- the giant octopus squid thing in the [00:18:00] comic
Sidey: But they-- and then in the series they revert back to that.
Reegs: know they do
Sidey: know they do. Yeah. Well, I think this is great. Yeah. 'Cause
Cris: And he's very blue
Sidey: he's very blue, and y-y-you see his penis. And then they make him wear, like, some black kind of undies later on- Yeah
'cause they, they don't want to just have his dick out all the time.
Reegs: There's a, I think a iconic scene of him walking through Vietnam and he's maybe 100 foot
Sidey: Yeah, he's just, like,
Reegs: blatting people with
Sidey: pointing at them, and they're gone.
Dan: Yeah.
Sidey: They surrender to him-
Reegs: People surrender to him. Yeah
Sidey: in that version of the reality.
Dan: the reality.
Well, a s-
a similar kind of
Sidey: kind of
Dan: thing is is when the evil wizard Gargamel chases out the, the Smurfs of their village. They're blue. And this was one of the, the classic cartoons that I used to enjoy watching as, as a kid, the Smurfs.
Was
Sidey: It's a
Reegs: The Smurfs, a comic strip, weren't it? Was it? Yeah.
Dan: Oh, I only,
Cris: Like a '50s comic strip Are they Belgian? Yeah.
They are Belgian.
Reegs: Yeah, they are
Dan: I, yeah, I wasn't... I'm [00:19:00] not that old. Do
Sidey: they ever kill Gargamel? Did they ever defeat it? Yes. Yeah.
Dan: yes. Killed, I'm not sure.
Sidey: Ah. Executed,
Reegs: yeah, I think. Yeah.
Dan: Did they execute? They, they actually
Sidey: executed- Papa Smurf, yeah.
Like, garrotted him ... Papa... But yeah,
Dan: Pap- but yeah, so but you had Papa Smurf, and you had that, like, hot Smurf
who had- They
Sidey: they have this exact conversation in Donnie Darko, don't they? About- Yeah. About- ... whether they do or not.
Reegs: yeah, whether they would do.
Dan: or not. Yeah. Whether they would do. Well, you know
Reegs: the, the 2011... There's been various reboots of it. The 2011 one with Neil Patrick Harris and Katy Perry, in which Smurfette sings- Oh ... I Kissed a Smurf and I Liked It.
Dan: "I kissed a Smurf and I liked it."
Reegs: and the thing is, if the Smurfette is singing that in that movie, and all of them are dudes, it loses the kind of sapphic- Yeah ... kind of tendencies of the-
Sidey: more like, a gang bang or something. Yeah.
Reegs: It leans back into the Donnie Darko gang bang
Sidey: Yeah. Well,
Dan: I was thinking more along the cartoon Smurfs and the more innocent days of the
Reegs: Pre-gang bang ... just,
Dan: just, you [00:20:00] know, outwitting Gargamel and going back to their village where Gargamel would kind
Sidey: was his beef, Gargamel?
Dan: drats.
Reegs: was his beef? ... stalk rats and rats Was he kicked out of the Smurfs village?
Dan: Yeah, I think he was. Oh, he was? He wasn't accepted, and, Well, he was. I think he just became a bit of an arse, and then
Sidey: And-
Reegs: You had to be, you had to be defined singularly by your character trait, didn't you, in the Smurf world? 'Cause they were all like, oh, there's Sporty- Oh, of
Sidey: the dwarves ... Vanity. Kind of like the dwarves. Yeah.
Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was. And Gargamel was just angry aggro.
Reegs: be like Oldie, Nosy- Yeah ... Dewy, and Chris. Dewy. But- And Sharon would never- No. Yeah. He wouldn't. Can you beat the Smurfs for blueness? Well, I've got a character called Mystique. Ooh, yeah. Yeah. Which, Rebecca Romijn. Yeah, Rebecca- Stamos ... Rebecca Romijn, J.Lo as
Sidey: Yeah. Chewy. But- Ed Sheeran would never.
Dan: No, he, he wouldn't. Can you beat the Smurfs for blueness?
Cris: I've got a character called Mystique.
Sidey: Ooh, yes.
Cris: Yeah.
Which,
Sidey: Romijn. Yeah, Rebecca- Stamos.
Cris: Rebecca Romijn,
Sidey: jLo as well J- Jennifer Lawrence,
Cris: and more importantly, in epic movie, Carmen Electra.[00:21:00]
Reegs: Yes.
Cris: She plays the same- Yes
Sidey: in the, like, the epic- I think Rebecca Romijn's coming back for Doomsday, isn't she?
Reegs: Hmm, isn't it Jennifer Lawrence? I don't know. One of them. I don't know.
Cris: don't know.
I, I don't know, but I've got I've got that, and that I would say looks pretty good. Yeah. That looks pretty good.
Sidey: Yeah, it does not suck. Yeah.
Cris: So that's a blue- Solid ... Smurfette, I'm gonna say. But this is the X-Men franchise.
Reegs: There's a few blueys in that. You got Nightcrawler.
Cris: And Beast is quite blue.
Beast, Hank McCoy, yeah. Hank, yeah, he's quite blue. But she's got great boobs, so, Hank doesn't really have... He's got boobs, but it's not, they're not
Reegs: hairy though, so I don't know. T- not the greatest hairy boobs. So- Hairy
Cris: So I'll,
Sidey: I'll have- Not hairy boobs?
Reegs: Not s- I'll have that ... I'm sor- I, well, I don't wanna body shame, but no, I, my personal preference is not
Cris: hair, yeah, yeah ... hairy boobs. What about you, Riggs? What is your- I
Reegs: don't have hairy boobs.
Well, I suppose, but,
Cris: Yeah.
Reegs: yeah,
Cris: wasn't necessarily my question, but okay.
Reegs: I was gonna go with, as I said it, it was [00:22:00] my first reaction last week when you said we're gonna do top five blue. It came straight into my head, was from season two, episode one of Arrested Development, the one where Michael leaves.
Oh, yeah, "I just blew myself." Yeah. "Oh, no, I'm afraid I just blew myself." Tobias, David Cross. He's he's a never-nude
Dan: analrapist.
Reegs: Who-
Sidey: The world's first,
Reegs: first, Analyst and- Analyst and- ... therapist
Sidey: And he, he portmanteaus it. Right. Analrapist,
Dan: yeah.
Reegs: Mantis it. Analrapist, yeah. He's a never-nude as well.
He never takes his boxers off. And he's
Sidey: Sometimes when I'm, like, daydreaming, I, I wonder how he could ever not... Does he have to do some sort of weird thing where he covers himself? I wonder how the, the logistics of not-
Reegs: not- Being a
Sidey: he even be naked to himself?
Reegs: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
He's a never-nude.
Sidey: Yeah.
Reegs: He's just a never-nude. Never gets nude. But he he's a s- he is this therapist. He's [00:23:00] also kind of a writer-director, all in his mind. It's all
Sidey: fucking loser ... unfortunately.
Reegs: And through a combination of circumstances, he thinks he gets an audition for the Blue Man Group.
Sidey: Group.
Reegs: his body blue.
And he's obviously blue for the entire episode. In fact, for... it's keeps popping up later in other episodes as well, doesn't it, I think? But then there's a series of gags about, "I blew myself," et cetera, et cetera.
Sidey: I keep seeing it's not actually a blooper, but it's where he's he has a Prophet Michael.
Yeah. 'Cause Michael's giving him some, you know, marriage advice. Yeah. And he's like, "Oh, you're the big expert." You know, "I forgot your wife is dead." And they're like, th- they're all, like, barely holding it together, and it's the, like, the best one they could do for, like, and it made it into the seri- you know?
Yeah. It was the one they had to use 'cause they just couldn't-
Reegs: they just couldn't get through that scene.
Yeah. Yeah.
Sidey: It was, I, I even think that series three probably does tail off a little bit. But season one, two, like,
Reegs: I'm watching season one again
Sidey: so fucking funny.
Yeah.
Reegs: It is really, really funny. [00:24:00] And maybe George Michael is just so hot as well.
Sidey: I really want them to do it.
Reegs: it. Yeah, of course you do.
Dan: do.
Sidey: Yeah. They're cousins for those who don't know. The genie from Aladdin- Yeah. ... is blue.
Reegs: Thinking-
Dan: I've- Do you like "Aladdin"? Was that the- Yeah ... Will Smith one?
Sidey: thinking of the Robin Williams- ... Will Smith ... the animated version, not the- Oh, yeah
Guy Ritchie directed Will Smith one. Will Smith. Take the money. Which
Reegs: I can't... I
Sidey: can't... I would never watch it. Why? How would you do that? I think it got
Dan: do that? I mean- Absolutely pants.
Sidey: pan... Well, I think that of all the live action ones, probably the Moana one is fucking dreadful as well. I mean, it just looks fucking shit. Yeah.
And it's still mostly fucking CGI anyway because the, he, you know, the monsters are fucking island.
Anyway but I'm not really a massive fan of Robin Williams. I know everyone fucking goes on about how amazing he is. Yeah. But his kind of comedy that it's like mega acting in the comedy sense. Yeah. He's just so, like, big.
Dan: had amazing moments that,
Sidey: Yeah, but like this is re- it really suits it in this version, and, and then he can, like, act.
I keep thinking about [00:25:00] nominating Good Will Hunting because he's fucking
Dan: Good Will Hunting is brilliant. Garp. Do you ever see that one? The... What is it? The The Life of Garp- Oh ... or The Wonderful World of Garp.
Reegs: World According to Garp- Is it?
Dan: World According to Garp it might have been.
I haven't seen it. But I remember seeing that as quite young, and it's still scenes of that stay into my mind 'cause it was quite an adult film, I think. It, I think it was a Wo- it might have been a Woody Allen kind of thing going on there as well. We'll have to Google that and, and find out exactly.
People will be shouting at me right now. But yeah not everything he did was funny. Like even with M- the Mork & Mindy stuff, some of it was so off the wall, and every... You'd get mad Americans just laughing with the canned laughter and all the rest of it, and don't know
Sidey: a studio audience laughter or
Dan: whether it was filmed before a studio audience laughter or whatever, but some of it was absolutely amazing
Sidey: Yeah, no, he did have some- Yeah ... some real highs, but I thought for me some lows. But it really suited playing the [00:26:00] genie
Dan: You've got Avatar. That's a blue, and I'm just mentioning it really 'cause Pete seems to be obsessed
Sidey: by it. Pete's a massive fan, isn't he?
Yeah. It,
Dan: one of the highest grossing films that's
Sidey: really gross
Reegs: Yeah. And yet it's contributed virtually nothing to culture ... nothing to add. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, some, like, cosplay and some, you know, some good- Is that what it's about, though? ... sex porn stuff, I think, according to Peter.
Sidey: porn. I couldn't bear it. I turned the first movie off, and I've never gone back to it. I wasn't keen
Dan: it, and I've never watched another one. Like, I watched the whole thing in the first one- I watched the first one
but then, like, pff,
Cris: Yeah.
Dan: that
Sidey: people were, were so into it that there was this sort of phenomenon that they were getting...
They were going to see it and, and then having to go back and watch it and watch it, and then just getting sort of withdrawn and depressed about real life 'cause it wasn't like- Mm. Pan- is it Pandora? Yeah. Where they're from. I'm like, "Get a grip. It's a fucking film, Johnny." But,
Reegs: But, I know. Fuck you. You can do whatever you want with your life and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But you do sort of think it would've been nice maybe if [00:27:00] James Cameron hadn't spent 15 years making these movies and had made some other stuff Yeah.
Sidey: Well, they're signing up to
Dan: that's something- It's weird, though, innit, because it obviously does connect with some people, just maybe not us, and Pete is one of those weird fucks it does connect with. I'd, I'd like Pete here to explain himself
Reegs: on this, actually. Oh, God, no.
Dan: God,
Cris: Oh, it would be... How, how long have we got?
Dan: Can you just can you just put it in a short text though, Pete, please?
You can't. You need to sit and ask him. Yeah. I have an
Cris: I'll just message him to ask him. Yeah. I have an iconic I- Italian Euro dance group called Eiffel 65 with the- Oh, "Blue" . That's,
Reegs: I'm blue,
Dan: Ba da bee da ba..." "Ba ba da bee da da bee da da ba ba ba." That's
Sidey: which is a,
Cris: an absolute iconic dance track from 1999.
Reegs: Yeah. It makes you wanna kill
Cris: and also it appears in "Iron Man 3"- Yeah ... "The Big Fat Liar"- Yeah ... "the Smurfs: The Lost Village"- Yeah.
Reegs: Right.
Sidey: course
Dan: is. Anything with- ... Barney
Reegs: I've heard it in loads of movies, actually. I
Cris: I mean- ... "Loser"-
Reegs: Yeah. Okay. [00:28:00] So,
Cris: which is also the name of your sex tape.
Yeah. But but yeah, it appears in all these films and it's, They're not actually blue, and despite their name, they are It- Italian. They're not French.
Reegs: Oh, are they? Well, there you go.
Cris: So
Sidey: I,
Cris: I know they're- Mm. They... I actually did a, a bit of research. They, as these three guys, them as physical per- people haven't appeared in a film yet.
Mm. But can I have that? Yeah. Yeah.
Reegs: Of course you can. Thank you. Aside he always does a g- music one, but I don't think it'll be anything as good as that, I wouldn't have thought. Blue Order.
Dan: A blue
Sidey: love it. It can't. That is the pinnacle of music. Chris
Cris: that or- A blue one. Well, he can't. That is the pinnacle of music
Dan: is the only one that comes to my mind.
Reegs: Well, Blue
Order.
Mm. No. Okay. New Order, Blue Monday. Blue Monday, yeah. Yeah,
Cris: Ah, same thing
Reegs: yeah, yeah. How about- Best
Sidey: 12-inch record of all time. Is it? Yes.
Reegs: Oh, interesting. How about if I was to say, "Here's one I made earlier"?
Sidey: Blue Peter. Yeah,
Reegs: Blue Peter.
Sidey: Did you ever get a Blue Peter badge? No.
Dan: No.
Reegs: Did you ever get a Blue Peter badge? No, no. Did you have one?
No. No.
Cris: No. What are they for?
Sidey: They, they marked you out as a [00:29:00] potential victim for sex
Dan: Jimmy Savile
Sidey: Yeah. Really? Yeah. I think if you contributed, if you were like one of those loser kids who contributed stuff to stuff you
Dan: they're much sought after
Sidey: would send you a Blue Peter badge. Yeah. And I think they had, like, gold ones if you did
Dan: Contributed more than once or twice, yeah. Yeah.
Reegs: They were famous for getting you to make stuff-
Sidey: The elephant
Reegs: appeals and, yeah, animals shitting in the studio.
And twice I think. A, a lot of times they would hire kind of young, trendy presenters who would go on cocaine binges, and they'd have to get rid
Sidey: Ba- not Kevin Bacon. Richard? Richard. Bae? Richard Bacon did it, yeah. Yeah.
Dan: the dog would die, and they'd have to explain it to upset kids- Yeah
the next week or something. And
Sidey: occasionally the garden was vandalized twice.
Reegs: vandalized twice. At least I think the most recent one was in 2000. So yeah, there you go. People really must dislike the Blue Peter Garden to attack it twice.
Sidey: [00:30:00] Wow. I wanna say that one of them was Les Ferdinand.
Dan: What,
Reegs: Ferdinand. What, Les Ferdinand? Who attacked the garden? Yeah.
Sidey: Look that up while I'm- That's a huge accusation ... look that up while I'm talking about my next one. Okay.
Reegs: Les Ferdinand attacked the Blue Peter Garden
Sidey: Peter garden. Blue Peter garden. 2001:A Space Odyssey- Mm ... starts off with a load of gorillas in the desert.
Dan: It does ... and they're
Sidey: And they're sort of- Yeah
being sort of very primitive. Yeah. And then they touch a monolith and advance, and one of them uses a bone as a tool and whacks something, and then that flips up into the air, and that segues very nicely into a spinning around kind of orbiting spacecraft. Was it?
Reegs: Well,
he made a joke about it and has retracted it. It was just a beer bants that
Sidey: was something out there about it ... control, but yeah. And the music that's playing whilst the spacecraft is is going around is The Blue Danube. Oh, right.
Dan: [00:31:00] of course. That
Reegs: Yeah ... of course.
Sidey: one.
Dan: Mm-hmm. Nice. And that is composer by-
Sidey: Derek Composer.
Cris: Is it
Reegs: composer David Jacobs?
Dan: Is
Cris: Blue Daniel. It, it sounds more
Sidey: Tchaikovsky?
Reegs: is about towards Strauss and, you know, all of that. Andrew Strauss used to
Sidey: Andrew Strauss used to open for England- That's it ... in 2005 Ashes.
Dan: people probably told me i- it's- It was
Reegs: was Strauss, Johann Strauss. The second, though. Yeah. I think you were talking about the first, to be honest, but-
Sidey: Whoops. Yeah, don't have a fucking clue.
Dan: the first, to be honest. Hobbes. Hobbes. Yeah ... you've, ... Segueing next into that would be The Blues Brothers.
Sidey: Oof.
Reegs: Yeah.
Dan: Which is the, one of the, the cooler films really of, ... No? You're sh- you're
Sidey: think- I hate this film. Fucking hate it. You hate this film? Yeah, I really hate it. I really like
Dan: really like this film. I, I, I thought it was you know, the, the, the boys who have been, had a rough upbringing and [00:32:00] need to save their their orphanage. They're gonna go and get the money that's needed. They break out of prison. You got Belushi and Dan Aykroyd as the, the Blues Brothers. Don't take off their, their glasses the whole time.
You've got Aretha Franklin. You've got kind of Muddy Waters in this. You've got car chases and thank you very much, and I'd like to thank all the ... just right at the end there, you know, when he's on the stage and he's, he thanks everybody from the, the police department who are there. He knows they're gonna be busted, but they of course get away with it.
I don't know. I quite like this. I'm, I'm getting a lot of negativity outside of, of my own voice here. No.
Reegs: I can't really remember,
Sidey: it.
Dan: can't remember it
Cris: I can't really remember it either, to be fair. I definitely watched it, but-
Sidey: famous for the car crash, the amount of cars they got smashed as well,
Dan: amount of cars they got smashed.
Reegs: reckon there's a good chance I wouldn't find any of it funny.
Dan: It... Well, the music's good. Like, you know- It's- ... the, the, you've got... The, the music's [00:33:00] superb in it. It, it's, it's not a musical, but it's, it's got musical numbers in it. And Aretha plays the, the lady who's, who's working in the, the canteen at, at something, and she just lets them have it with respect and everything.
It just... You see the fun that the c- they're having, the actors are having Belushi and Aykroyd, and I don't know. I've al- I, I watched it when I was quite young. And it's just one of those ones that
I've,
Sidey: I've
Dan: not revisited very often. Maybe sometimes
Sidey: a 2001, Blues Brothers 2000 or some shit.
Yeah.
Dan: They mi- they might have gone back and rebooted, but I've only ever watched, But it's good. It's good for me, and if we're talking Blues, then The Blues Brothers gets in for me.
Cris: Yeah. This is not necessarily to do with anything in the title or he doesn't actually paint himself completely blue, but this is my friend and yours, Mel Gibson in Braveheart- Oh, yeah
where he has blue [00:34:00] paint
Dan: his face. Nice. Yeah.
Cris: So he's not entirely covered in blue paint. Freedom! No.
Sidey: It's enough.
Cris: But yeah, he's
Sidey: Yeah. They'll never take our lives.
Dan: Yeah.
Sidey: It was good that. It was
Cris: take our lives. They may take our lives- Yeah ... but they'll never take our freedom."
Sidey: He's very short as well, isn't he? We, wasn't he, did cover that off last week?
Mel Gibson?
Reegs: Yeah. Give/over. He's
Dan: than Danny DeVito.
Sidey: shorter than he appears on screen. Really? Yeah.
Reegs: He's not shorter than Danny DeVito. That's definitely made up right now.
Sidey: now. Fucking
Cris: Hasbulla territory there. But yeah, Mel Gibson as William Wallace in Braveheart with paint on his face. William
Sidey: Wall. Thanks.
Reegs: than jizz. I am going to nominate, I think- Yeah ... and I am going to nominate he's in love with a chicken named Camilla. He's prone to, Could it be- ... outrageous sort of stunts or things going completely wrong, and he's really an oddball. He's an alien. It's Gonzo, Oh
[00:35:00] from The Muppets. He's probably my favorite blue thing, I think. I think like many people, I feel a kinship towards-
Sidey: Yeah, he was rad ... Gonzo. Yeah.
Reegs: So that's what I'm going for, Gonzo.
Dan: Strong. Yeah. Yeah.
Sidey: We watched "Blue Steel," didn't we?
Dan: We watched Blue
Sidey: recently. It's also, Jamie Lee ... it's, it's not just a movie, it's also a look.
Yeah. For- Derek Zoolander does that. And I have- I've been on a run of,
Reegs: c- just, can you do it for us?
Sidey: No.
Reegs: The Blue Steel? Oh.
Sidey: I can't even do it. It's like-
Reegs: There you go. That was
Dan: it was a quick
Sidey: flash ... I've been on a run of nominating "Twin Peaks," but there was a, there's a sort of tenuous one so I'm not gonna do that. I'm just gonna put in Cookie Monster.
That's good as well. Oh. 'Cause he's pretty iconic.
Dan: wa- I was gonna have him myself. Okay, I tell you what I'm gonna do then. I'm gonna-
Sidey: Well, I'll go no, well, hmm.
Dan: well, mm-mm. Well, well
Sidey: let's- If you haven't got one other, an al-
Dan: we've got another one. I'm looking over at our Bait album there- Yeah, yeah ... which we- Jenko ... with Mark Jenkins' original score for
Cris: for
Reegs: for
Dan: [00:36:00] film Bait. Yeah. The, the cover for that on vinyl is all in blue. Yeah. There's lots of blue with the the sea, of course, within that
that
Sidey: should rotate the- It is migraine though. It is migraine ... you should rotate those ones on the wall because I reckon that's probably worth a few quid.
Yeah. And you wouldn't want it to get this, the color to get bleached out of it.
Dan: We, We,
should definitely play them as
Sidey: in Translation" one's about 150 quid as well, so you wanna get that off there. We
Dan: I looked at that.
We wanna play that a little bit more actually because it's, it's, And there's Lawrence of Arabia in there as well. But I'm gonna, I'm gonna add in Bait,
Sidey: Nice ...
Dan: for,
for my blueness. Chris?
Sidey: Chris?
Cris: I've got a velociraptor that is called Blue in-- which is a genetically modified velociraptor from Jurassic World franchise.
Sidey: Chris
Reegs: Pratt's one.
Cris: Chris Pratt, and he is on th- this is just on the Jurassic Park Wiki fandom. It says that Blue is one of the most cunning velociraptors of the pack, and in the film, she's got over 40 commands. In her youth, Blue fought with Echo for pack [00:37:00] supremacy.
Sidey: And they just kept on genetically modifying stuff. I mean, they just- Yeah ... did not learn, did they? No. You watched the most recent one with Scarlett Johansson?
Reegs: I think I tried and gave up.
Sidey: Yeah. You probably w- well advised.
Reegs: Maybe I'll go back
Cris: you would do that to a film that-
Reegs: I would still probably go back
Sidey: It's just so powerfully
Reegs: go if
Cris: know what Jai Ric- Richa said? Never go back. Never
Reegs: go back. He did say that. He did say that.
Just saying. Wow.
Sidey: that's good advice. We need one more. Blue thing. There's
Dan: you provide it?
Sidey: blue things?
Reegs: we need one more. Blue thing. Can you provide this? Blue
Dan: Yes, I'm talking to you
Sidey: You can have three minutes.
Cris: Smród,
Sidey: Wow. Someone can have me?
Cris: nie?
Sidey: Do, do, do, do, do, do, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. Oh, and something blah, blah.
Cris: I'm still intrigued by this Blue Peter. I, I'm not really [00:38:00] sure what
Sidey: it is. It was just a shit program. We'd have three presenters, and they would just- Make
Cris: So was that the name of a TV show?
Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.
Sidey: And they would just do, like, a feature about... They would... They would quite often do fundraising for Guide Dogs for the Blind, and they would just- Right
Reegs: It was a very wholesome- Yeah ... kids educational kinda program where you were encouraged to, like, ma- do a project with them each week or
Sidey: because I was only interested in animated stuff, and I would have to fucking wait for that to finish before potentially something good would come on afterwards.
Reegs: It would have a story about a charity on it, and then someone would come on with their dog
or-
Cris: Yeah, okay, now I
Reegs: or something.
Sidey: there's a dog that skateboards." And you're
Reegs: It went on forever. Yeah,
Cris: that's what the Blue Peter badge, right? So you would be on it because you're a- Yeah. Yeah ... talented kid or you've done something for charity.
Exactly, yeah. And you get there,
Sidey: hopefully they get bullied at school for getting- ... Blue Peter badge. And upload
Reegs: pumping arms as he came back. And they d- they gave you a
Sidey: badge ... fully pumping arms. That's how much we meant.
Nice. Like,
Dan: Okay. Like,
Sidey: was like, "Never mind how this [00:39:00] looks." Yeah. "I am pumping arms to get back to defend." Right.
Reegs: You gotta replace your Goro,
Dan: you have to do the same guy at the, Replace the G- No, 'cause it hasn't, it hasn't gone yet.
Reegs: the,
Cris: it
Reegs: Actually, it hasn't, it hasn't gone... it's been on the whole time. Oh,
Sidey: it hasn't gone... It's been recording the whole time. Yeah,
Cris: It's been recording the whole time. Oh, okay. Yeah, and it's been the thing's been
Dan: grooving. Yeah.
Cris: here.
Dan: It's a bit of
Reegs: And it's been the thing- That's the key. D- don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. Dunun, everybody's grooving. Yeah. This'll be the more musical,
Sidey: been this whole- That's the key. Don't, don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. Everybody. Yeah. It's a bit more musical, the segue in there. Yeah. Well, there's... That se- does segue quite nicely into this week's main feature- ... because we watched Three Colors Blue. The Tricolore ... Krzysztof Kieślowski. It's part one- Huh
of a sort of trilogy exploring the themes of- Liberty ... liberty, equality, and fraternity. Yeah. I think this one's supposed to be liberty. Yeah.
Reegs: I picked up on that afterwards when I read it which was nice.
Sidey: A way. So I'd... I've, I've sort of heard about these films. They're quite highly regarded, I think. Yeah.
But I'd never seen them myself, so thought, "Why not? This is the good forum to try this sort of thing out." Well,
Dan: we're, [00:40:00] we are in a, you know- Yeah ... film pod- podcast. Yeah. We've been doing it for
Sidey: we could do it for five minutes. Rick's had let us know about the subtitles, and we had had previous drama with subtitles when we watched- Yeah
Traffic.
Dan: was nervous, actually.
Sidey: thought, "Oh, right. Well, before we start..." So there's a f- if you go onto Prime and you can subscribe to the Daniel Curzon channel- Yeah ... you get a seven-day free trial- Oh, of course ... so you can watch this legit without having to do some sort of illicit streaming activity.
Yeah. And I thought while I'm on the settings thing, I'll go into the subtitles. No subtitles it says. No subtitles or language options available for this movie. And I thought, "Oh, fuck me." But I have- I was like,
Reegs: me. I was like, oh my God, this is the same thing that happened to Dan
Sidey: I thought- Oh, yeah ... I'm gonna have to watch it now.
And I have been trying to learn French. I thought, "Oh, this is really gonna put my French,
Reegs: you know,
Sidey: linguistic skills to, to test." Yeah. And then what it means is that there are subtitles. You just can't fuck about with them, and they are the fucking gigantor ones that-
Reegs: that, you know- They're enormous,
Sidey: It's probably half the screen ta- well, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but like a disproportionate amount of space-
Dan: a [00:41:00] fifth.
Reegs: It's a fifth.
Sidey: the subtitles
Reegs: and considering how many of the shots are, like, composed really carefully- Yeah ... to show very specific images in specific places.
Yeah. And then you've just got these ridiculous subtitles over the
Sidey: I'm used to having the words on,
Reegs: not like that, you're not. Not that
Dan: Not ... not ... those Not that big, but
Sidey: I've got other other, other services that I use where you can dictate the size of the, Yeah, most, most of them But this is, like, bad eyesight kind of
Dan: yeah, you get what you're given Yeah Oh,
Reegs: you're given. Oh, well, actually, what ... If we're still moaning about it, then for Blue Steel, and that again was on the official Lionsgate channel, the subtitles were about three seconds ahead of the
Sidey: Oh, really?
Dan: don't need subtitles for that. That's- No, you didn't,
Cris: subtitles
Sidey: for that. That's-
Reegs: You didn't need any subtitles for that though. No, you didn't, but if you switch it on, maybe you're right. If I'm eating a packet of crisps- Some might. Yeah, somebody might. If I'm eating a packet of crisps, I always need subtitles when I'm watching and eating- Yeah ... a packet of crisps because I can't hear fuck all apart from eating crisps.
So, Yeah, okay.
Sidey: Anyway, this, I think it starts off with some wheels turning. Is it full moon? Yes In a blue [00:42:00] tinted kind of, Lens? Yeah.
Reegs: It's a car barreling it down, isn't it? Yeah, and
Dan: a little girl looking out the
Sidey: back- But you, you
Reegs: She's got her hand out the window
Sidey: and then she's got a wrapper. Wrapper. Yeah. And a, a kid is by the side of the road playing with a skateboard or a bike or I can't remember
Reegs: He's got one of those little balls on a stick, and he's trying to fucking-
Dan: Yeah.
Sidey: to do,
Dan: there's a ball with a hole, and the hole's gotta go into the stick.
Sidey: I
Reegs: did wanna say just before that, it's a really trippy sequence when she's in the tunnel- Looking out, yeah
and like it's re- almost hallucinogenic. She's- It's actually going one
Sidey: he goes- Yeah ... into like hyperspace and he's
Dan: that's it. The- Yeah
Reegs: goes for a
Dan: looking through the r- Yeah ... the, the back window, and anyway, they,
Reegs: But we see the underside of the car. You see the brake fluid dripping
Dan: He's hitchhiking, this young lad. Sat on the side of the road, sat on his skateboard, and at the moment he
Sidey: You hear a crash bang wall, don't
Dan: completely sink the ball on the stick, we hear the, the clump, thump of a car hitting a [00:43:00] tree.
Reegs: watch him watch it happen. Yeah. We don't get to see it. We see the ex- very aftermath
Dan: And he kind of races over. What I liked about this is that
Reegs: he- Mm
Dan: he runs over and only part the way through he-
Reegs: Dumps his skateboard
Dan: the skateboard and it's the kind of thing that, you know, you would just
Sidey: do without thinking.
Well, he's very young,
Dan: he's young, and it, it's just like a weird thing, but it was like you're watching him do something other than just run.
He's dumping the the, the skateboard, and when he gets to the car he doesn't rush in 100 miles an hour. He, he really kinda looks and holds back a second, and then it cuts again to her being in the hospital.
Cris: Hospital
Sidey: being informed that, And, and she's- ... brace yourself for all the lols. Yeah. Yeah. Her husband and daughter were both killed.
Reegs: Both of these shots, these are being told through the reflection of the
Dan: the mirror
Reegs: in her
Dan: in her eye. And she actually gets told that her husband didn't make it, and she has to [00:44:00] ask about her daughter.
Cris: Yeah.
Sidey: Yeah. And
Dan: then she's told that she also didn't make it, and she kinda just closes off and, and the next time we see her,
Sidey: to down some pills ... she's,
Dan: she's smashed a window to distract a
Reegs: that before or after the funeral?
I think they do the funeral first, 'cause she... That's where we get a little bit of exposition. She watches the funeral on TV 'cause the husband was a famous composer. That's right. Famous enough to have a, a sort
Dan: state funeral or something
chief of state funeral.
Reegs: yeah. And even at the funeral, there's just this suggestion that will come through the background of the movie that actually he wasn't responsible for the music that he was accredited for, and actually she was.
Sidey: She was ghostwriting it, effectively. Yeah She was ghostwriting it, potentially,
Reegs: yeah. But yeah, so we find out he's this big composer, and then you see the coffins. It's really sad. And then, yeah, the next scene is her kind of breaking out, breaking a window, slipping past the nurse who goes to investigate, and downing a
Sidey: downing a whole- It was almost [00:45:00] funny 'cause she, she necks like a whole bottle of pills and then just like spits kind of- Yeah.
That's actually
Dan: but they're
Reegs: I was like, that's not the way to do it. That's, she can't... That's not gonna work,
Sidey: like, "Ugh"
Dan: so dry in her mouth
Sidey: just
Dan: just can't do it, and she just kind of spits them back out. It's like when a child eats too many spoonfuls
Sidey: eat a spoonful of flour or something?
Dan: but also it was cinnamon. Yeah. But also what is said to me, and you may have interpreted differently, but- That she wasn't going to take her own life, you know, that she...
There w- there was an opportunity. She could've forced those pills down, but she hadn't got so low. She was low at that point, but actually given the chance to do it-
Sidey: when the, in the, in the moment then she decides to take another path because she- Exactly. Yeah ... immediately pivots onto this just detaching herself from- Yeah
fucking everything.
Reegs: yeah. She, she sort of disbands her life, gives all of her money to her gardener and her housekeeper,
Sidey: lives in a fucking-
Reegs: says one of the most heartbreak... She comes back and she's like crying, and she's like, "Why are you crying?" And, "Well, I'm crying 'cause you're not."
Sidey: Yeah. [00:46:00] She's seems just completely shut off.
Dan: of immense
Sidey: of immense proportions which is- Yeah. She's got staff. It's that big. So they, they have to be staffed.
Reegs: They have to have it stuffed.
Well it's- Oh, and one thing we didn't say as well is that when he died, the guy was working on this unfinished concerto. To unify
Dan: To unify Europe.
Reegs: European... Yeah
Sidey: 12 countries in Europe. They're gonna play it once in each country or something like
Dan: They're all gonna be
Sidey: 12 different orchestras or something. So it was obviously a big deal. Yeah. She's decided to clean... She, she makes a couple of phone calls, sell everything.
Like get rid of fucking everything. Yeah. The guy from this is not like a two up, two down. This is a fucking chateau. It's- Yeah ... it's, this is large.
Reegs: And Olivier, her, her husband's sort of other collaborator scoops
Sidey: super horny. He s-seizes moment.
Reegs: Yeah, he's, like, really into her. It's really
Sidey: I've always loved you. This is not weird at all. He-- There's a big
Dan: Always liked her. It's not weird at all.
Reegs: he, there's a big bit where she gets the unfinished manuscript or is that what's that what it would be?
A manuscript? Yeah, like
Sidey: I guess so. It's the sheet music. [00:47:00] Is it-
Reegs: The sheet music, yeah. And it's like verified it's this unfinished thing that he's writing for the European Union, and
Dan: There's lots of amends on it. Well, she throws it into the garbage truck that we've seen
Sidey: So the, the claw's gonna just mangle it.
Yeah ... put it on
Dan: outside, and she watches it get mangled and, and trashed and everything, and she's quite happy that that's gone. And she just wants to leave it all behind. She doesn't want the memories.
The
Sidey: goes to see, Right. She,
Reegs: she fucks Olivier before she goes off
Sidey: a mattress left, and she fucks him and then leaves and says, "Fucking do one, mate, I'm off."
And we, we see
Dan: She's got a mattress left and she fucks him and then leaves and says, "Fucking deal with it." And w- we see quite a lot of blue shading and lights
Sidey: in- The lampshade
Dan: at different times. Maybe just to
Sidey: to
Dan: show... And we've seen it in lots of other films before how color can represent the feeling in, in people and, and maybe the loneliness, the isolation that she's felt at, at different times is signified through these-
Reegs: It's a color of mourning in
Dan: a kind of boarding house
this ki- yeah, this, this kind of [00:48:00] isolation
Sidey: don't you? It's around her sort of chocolate lollipop thing- Yeah ... and she
Reegs: The lolly itself was blue. Do you which is quite
Dan: It's, it just ... E- each time I saw the blue it just made me think-
Sidey: The swimming all the time, yeah
Dan: the alone, the aloneness. You know-
Reegs: what she's
Dan: the
Reegs: with her life. Yeah. She's abandoned all of her house possessions. she
Sidey: this real estate guy, says, "I just want a, I want a flat. You know, I'm just gonna stay in this flat.
Reegs: Of that.
Dan: you do? Nothing
Sidey: can you sort that out?" And- What does she do?
Nothing "I don't work. Don't worry about it. Money's not a problem." So she just holes up in Paris with- But
Dan: But it's not, it's not a, She
Sidey: cuts off all f- all friends, all family. Yeah All her possessions gone. Everything's gone. And- She just wants to live anonymously ... it's, it's,
Dan: an, it's a nice big spacious flat, but it's not opulent or anything like that. And it's not you know, it's got, it's got space, but
Sidey: No,
Dan: seen the chateau that she's left.
Sidey: she's left. She just likes to go out, sit on her own, have an affogato. She
Reegs: wants to live completely anonymously, basically. She
Sidey: 'Cause even, like, there's more misery to come, 'cause she goes to see her mother- Yeah
who's got dementia and doesn't quite recognize what's going on. And she [00:49:00] says to her mother, it's a little bit later on, but you've al- it's, like, explicit anyway, but she says "I can't have any of that." That you can't have any, any family or fr- or something. She says because th- those are just traps.
Yeah. So you're like, "Oh God- Yeah ... this is fucking bleak." So she likes to swim. She likes to go to the café.
Reegs: get the- That's always blue as well. Yeah. A lot of
Sidey: And she's always wearing a black kinda costume or- Good swimmer. Yeah. She's
Dan: She's quick, isn't she?
Reegs: One thing as well is that occasionally the musical motif of this unfinished concert, "Certo for Europe" or whatever it is, just fucking blasts- Yeah
through the score of the thing, and there's a real... this, like, unsettling thing that they do where they edit with, like-
Sidey: It just cuts to black
Reegs: cuts to black ... cut to black for, like, half a second and then pick up exactly where you were before. Oh, wow. It's very disorientating. So, one,
Sidey: at one point she comes...
She's... Is it where she's locked herself out? Yeah. And she just sees the prostitute come back with the fella. Yeah. And,
Dan: that's right. So she's,
Sidey: looks up and smiles. The, the, the- She's gone- And then the next day a lady comes and knocks on the door [00:50:00] and says, "Oh, listen, we, I want you to sign this." Yeah.
"We, we, we don't, we can't be having loose women in the in the building." Of course. And she's like, "I don't give a fuck. It's not, it's nothing to do with me." So she re- she just refuses to get involved and sign. And so the, the lady is it Isabelle? Yeah. Yeah. She comes up and says, "Oh," she's got a little bunch of flowers for her and says, "Oh, thanks very much for, for not signing," 'cause
Dan: they can't- Walks straight
Sidey: they can't kick me out without, Everybody agreed ... without it being unanimous, so you've done me a solid there. And, and they sort of strike up a friendship. And the next time she sees her is at the swimming pool, where she crouches down at the side of the pool. She's obviously got no on- like knickers on.
Yeah. And she's like, "Oh, don't do you not wear underwear?" She said, "No, never." And
Reegs: And
Dan: she's sort of...
Reegs: sort of- Yeah.
Sidey: she's like, "What the fuck?" She's kinda started her own- Yeah. Yeah ... menstrual thing right there. She's
Dan: at like eye level with, with her, her knickers
Sidey: And she's, she's quite a, a pivotal character actually because it kind of like...
The, the middle of the film kind of just set, just really like reinforces the fact that she's just really isolating herself from everything. Well,
Reegs: isolating herself from everything.
Well, yeah. And there's a load of, like, stuff that goes on, isn't there? Not necessarily... It's just showing, like, the texture of her life. [00:51:00] Like the guy, what's his name, is it Antoine, the hitchhiker? Yeah. He turns up and he's like, "Oh, you know, I sort of just wanted to tell you what your husband's you know, your husband's l- he said something."
Sidey: It was a punchline
Reegs: It was the punchline to, like, a really, like a bit of a really shitty joke.
Dan: he liked to repeat the punchline twice.
Yeah.
Sidey: Yeah
Dan: that was it. So that
Sidey: She, and she says, so just- A really good joke ... 'cause, 'cause he had found her necklace with a gold cross on it, and he says, "I can't keep it. That'd be stealing." She said, "Well, thanks very much for returning it, but now you can have it." She doesn't want, even want that. She doesn't even want that.
Dan: no, that's it. And I thought that was quite a...
You
know, because she took the call. He, he'd managed to hunt her down through her doctor, this this young lad who had had the
Sidey: sure the doctor wouldn't be able to
Dan: GDPR. Yeah, GDPR. GDPR didn't quite exist as it does
Sidey: there's always been a pa- doctor-patient confidentiality.
Dan: But obviously maybe the doctor thought it might do her good, you know, that she's, she's been quite emotionally stunted or, or whatever.
I, I'm not sure, but he
Sidey: there's a thing with [00:52:00] the the mice as well, isn't there? Yeah. In her apartment. She can't have-
Reegs: She can't kill the mice, but then-
Dan: get a cat to do it
Sidey: What is it? Then she
Reegs: will, puts the cat in there.
Sidey: there. But she, Isabelle has to go and clean that out. But then she-
Dan: She
Sidey: a call fairly late at night and it's Isabelle saying, "I need you to come and see me, like right away."
Reegs: away."
Yeah.
Sidey: "Get a taxi, I'll pay for it, but I need you to come." It's like, "Well, what do you mean?"
It's a bit-- She's a bit sort of taken aback.
Reegs: It's a bit, she's a bit, sort of, taken
Sidey: It's like, "Look, I'm here at this address. Just ring the buzzer and ask for me. C- but can you come now, please? I- I've never asked you for anything, but I need, I need this." She's like, "Yeah, fine. Okay." So she does, and she knows she's a sex worker anyway, but this is more of
Reegs: more of a- More explicit about it
Sidey: explicit about it.
This is like peep show, but I think there's, there's all sorts going on in here, and- Yeah ... she's really upset because,
Dan: thing.
Reegs: Yeah. 'Cause she's rubbing that guy's
Sidey: a fluffer. Yeah. She 'cause while they're literally having a, a proper heart to heart because she's been in this sex club and her fucking dad's in there.
Yeah. So that's [00:53:00] like knocked her for
Reegs: telling this horrendous
Sidey: as she's telling the story, the guy comes over and goes, "Isabelle, roll in five. I need you to get me ready." And she's like fluffing him off. Imagine, imagine
Dan: that's your acting career there. Yeah.
Sidey: yeah. That's
Reegs: eventually, yeah, so
Sidey: yeah, so- And then, and then she goes, "Oh, is that you?"
And she's like, "What do you mean?" And they look across the sort of balcony or whatever it is into the office. Yeah. The guy's got the telly on, there's some sort of reportage. Yeah. And it's her on the telly, and she's like, "What the fuck?" And it's a thing about her husband's work and- It's Olivier
Reegs: It's Olivier, isn't it? Olivier's resurfaced. He's gonna, He's got a copy of the concerto, and he's gonna sort of publish it under his own name sort of thing, or bring it out.
Sidey: He's, yeah, he's hoping to finish it off and, and complete this this 12 country thing- Yeah ... project that they were working on. But while she's watching
Dan: th- there's a reporter there that's been there before who said she, she wanted a interview with her, and she said, "No, I'm not gonna do it." And
Reegs: She was the woman who'd made the first suggestion
Dan: don't wanna take a photo of you." And she takes a, a, [00:54:00] an awful photo of her where she's just literally still got the bruising from the car crash and everything.
Yeah. And she's turned around, and that's the one they show on TV and you just think, "You fucking bitch." Like, you
know?
Sidey: There's also- Yeah. There's also a photo of another lady- Yeah ... knocking about. Mm.
Reegs: Sandrine and the
husband.
Sidey: France and its reputation for- Mistresses ... husbands having mistresses yes, he did have a mistress. She goes, she reconnects
Dan: to know what he's
Sidey: f- for a couple of reasons.
She wants to know what he's fucking doing with- Well, she confirmed it first ... 'cause she's like, "I fucking destroyed that, that music." Yeah. And the, the lady- He's like, "I got a copy" ... well, she first of all says, the lady says, "Yeah, well, I made a copy 'cause I knew you would." And you're
Dan: can't destroy.
Sidey: fuck?" It's destroyed to destroy it ... so
Dan: yours to destroy.
Sidey: goat about that. The
Reegs: thing is as well, there's been a, a suggestion that actually
Sidey: the-
Reegs: the sort of central motif that they're trying to augment the start of the piece sh- that he overheard it potentially in Paris from a guy who's playing it in the street on
Sidey: guy on the recorder
with
Reegs: ends up sleeping with? Olivier. Olivier. He goes "Did... Was he seeing someone?" And he goes,
Sidey: They call it [00:55:00] flute, but I'm like, that's a recorder, dude.
Reegs: "Oh,
Sidey: probably a recorder, yeah. Yeah. So that's... She's been kind of inspired by that as well.
Dan: Yeah. And also when
Sidey: she
Dan: confronts what's the chap she ends up sleeping with? Olivier. Olivier. He goes "Did... Was he seeing someone?" And he goes, "Yeah."
Like, "Didn't you know?" "How long has it been going on?" "Oh, like years." You know, I mean, this wa- it was a long affair that she had, and we find out-
Reegs: obvious- obviously been waiting in the wings a long time though, this guy ... yeah,
Dan: he found out that, Well, she finds out as she tracks her down, that she's a lawyer. She follows her back to a cafe.
Oh, yeah She goes down to a toilet, and we see for the first time actually she's pregnant. Yeah, I was thinking that.
Sidey: pregnant. Oh, yeah. Fucking hell,
Dan: And and she rather than becomes very angry, she, she inquires- Yeah, she doesn't- ... and she's curious about as to
Sidey: the way you think she might,
Dan: the other, yeah, the other lady is, is kinda, "You'll hate me.
Now you'll hate him as well."
Reegs: Referring
Dan: but
Reegs: the unborn son
Sidey: but actually she,
Dan: [00:56:00] she turns her, her kind of emotions that she could think it would be hate and anger and all the rest of it, into more of an acceptance and a love and, and a way of dealing with it. Well, she's
Reegs: then- Well, she sets him up for life
Cris: for life
Well,
Dan: as she's, you know... I'm, I'm thinking as the film as a whole because she, sh- she isolated herself, you know. She's isolated herself from, from
Sidey: pain and people- Well, I think she's really tried to, but there's just always something that-
Dan: pulled her back
you know, like she- You
Sidey: Al Pacino in "Godfather Part III." But something that drags her back. Whether it be,
Dan: it be Olivier, whether it be Sandrine these different characters have, have pulled her back and she's got an amazing amount of goodness in her and capacity to forgive, which her husband also said to Sandrine. He said, 'Cause she says at one point, didn't she?
Says, "Oh, my- She says, "I know so much
Sidey: He said, "Tell me so much about you,"
Dan: told me so much about you and that you were really good and, [00:57:00] you know, that I could count on you. Yeah. And
Cris: without
Dan: her having said that first, she's proved it. You know, she said, "Look, I'm... Don't sell the house to the, to the- Yeah, so the house that-
Sidey: to the-" So, so the house obviously hasn't gone through, and she takes her back there and says- Says it's yours
and just, just fucking blindsides him, saying, "This is yours now," you know.
Reegs: "Look
Dan: after
Sidey: the kid." You know, "Have you got a name for him?" And all this. You know, fucking hell. Yeah.
Dan: it's a little boy that she's gonna have. And then she goes back to Olivia and says, "Ooh, let's finish that fucking piece then.
Let's
Sidey: clearly she was the brains behind all the,
Dan: yeah, she was ghostwriting. That's it. She just gave, gave, gave, and where she didn't want that,
you know,
light, she didn't want that that
Kind of attention,
Sidey: they
Reegs: fuck her around. They do.
Sidey: Yeah. They, they
Dan: Play fight together, don't they? They seem to, yeah. They, they do. Well, there's some glass involved at this point.
There's a
Reegs: a lot of reflections
Dan: she's ... Her face is smudged up. I was thinking, "What the fuck was that
Sidey: Yeah.
Reegs: Virtually every important piece of information [00:58:00] that drives the plot on is delivered f- either via reflection or somebody speaking through a pane of glass.
Yeah.
Dan: And,
then we get Corinthians 12-
Reegs: Well,
we get a little bit about the music. They finish off the concerto.
Sidey: gets conflicted about whether she wants him to do it or not. Yeah. 'Cause they're working it for a little bit, and you think, "Oh, she's gonna come back into the world." And then she's like, actually she has second thoughts about that again.
Yeah. She's like, "No, actually, I don't think it's right." And he's like, "Well..." Does he say, "I'm gonna do it anyway"? Yeah. And it is obvious that this guy's been hoping to shoot his shot with her.
Dan: Yeah, he's well horny for her.
Reegs: And then she, she does agree to have this concerto released, which is played, I think, at the end. But she wants to be uncredited for it.
Yeah. Yeah. And then we get the bit ... This is where it totally lost me in terms of what I was supposed to know and think, where it would get a load of sort of biblical s- somebody's first... John's letter to the Corinthians, was it? Yeah. Was it
Sidey: love I'm nothing or something, I think.
Yeah. 'Cause she said, "Oh, you can't have that because then you just end up getting hurt." And then this is saying, "Well, actually that's
Dan: Yeah. There's
Reegs: a lot of thing- [00:59:00] people have it at their weddings, don't they, is what my wife
Dan: it's like the Apostle Paul or something, isn't it? The, i- it's
Cris: It's
Sidey: it's basically
Dan: that whole Bible passage that just gets read out over the music as they're, they're kinda making
Reegs: And then we get this sort of Donnie Darko ending, don't we? Where it's like the music playing and over the sort of various people that she's intersected or touched with, Sandrine the lawyer
Sidey: Yeah.
So she, she still had a positive impact on all these people
Reegs: course, had an impact on all these people. Well, she's sort
Sidey: of-
Reegs: I suppose, right, I don't really kn- you know, I know this is a very well-discussed movie and has lots of religious allegory and stuff about it, but to me it was just a portrait of grief and somebody who'd shut themselves down and turned themselves off to the, like love in any shape or form in the world.
Yeah. And then watching her suddenly open herself back up to just that possibility. Yeah.
Sidey: F-
Dan: for me, this was an easy watch, to be honest. Like, not in the, the sense the, of the [01:00:00] subject matter, but in the sense that the,
Sidey: the,
Dan: filmmaking itself and the way that it was shot, the music the, the pace of it with the dialogue.
I particularly like the parts in the cafe when she was just there and, and just those shots outside with the flute maker and all those kind of scenes where she was just having a, a, a coffee and ice cream
and,
and the way that it moved the film on. There was one point where she scraped loads of knuckles
Reegs: Oh, that was horrible. She scraped- She punishes herself after she sleeps with Olivier the first time and scrapes
Dan: scrapes her knuckles along the
Sidey: wall but she- well she must've done that, someone must've done that for real 'cause it's her hand. Does-
Reegs: It looks horrible, doesn't it? There's
Sidey: way that that's fake. Yeah. Yeah.
Dan: Yeah. And then, and then afterwards you see her in the next shot in the cafe, but her hand is healed, and it doesn't explicitly go onto
the,
the hand, but you can see down that her hand is healed, and everybody's eyes will, will draw down to how's your hand now, like, because we've just seen you [01:01:00] fuck it up against a really rough kind of cemented wall.
And it's healed, so you know that time has moved on, and the, the the waiter says, "Oh, the usual." So again, you know that she's- Yeah ... she's been there a while. You know, the... And I just like the way that the, the filmmaker moved on time like that in just a very
Reegs: be- that's clever, that's clever storytelling- Yeah
visual storytelling, and that's
Dan: there was lots of that throughout the film. Even the, the part where the, the flute guy had come out of a very expensive car, and it looked like he'd just spent the night with,
you know,
S- a, a madam or, or someone who's... And then he just goes then onto the street and everything.
Yeah. There was just lots of different levels of, well, what does that mean to you and what does, how does that happen? This is obviously a ve-
Reegs: well
Dan: kind of, regarded film in, in filmmaking.
Sidey: [01:02:00] I
Dan: hadn't seen it before. No. It was, it was the first time, and I haven't seen, colors white or red either which,
Sidey: which- Yeah. Would you be tempted to after watching this?
Dan: trilogy. I would be, yeah. And I, I think I, I though looking at the reviews afterwards, which I, I've done since I watched the film I didn't do it before, but I watched it, I... This is the best of the three- Is it? ... they, they say.
Reegs: I still keep thinking about that shot of where she was dipping the sugar in her coffee. Yeah. And the sugar's ... Like, the coffee goes
Dan: shooting up. And it is, so there's loads of really nice shots in filmmaking. It's just interesting. It the, the pool scenes, just watching her swim- Yeah, it did ... the editing. Yeah. I thought it was really, really well put together, and it just goes to, to show how
Reegs: a,
Dan: film actually with- without the action, without the, the kind of,
Reegs: cum shots
Dan: the cum shots. Thank you. That's the words I was looking for. Those money shots. Yeah. It can still for me just make [01:03:00] you feel something throughout it, and it, it's one of those that will... I'll think about, you know, over the next few months or, or whatever.
Reegs: you go on to red and white maybe ... it
Dan: And I'll, I'll, I'll go and watch them at some point for sure,
Reegs: Side, what was your take?
Sidey: really enjoyed it. Yeah. I guess s- you could see some people watch this and maybe you could accuse it of being a little bit pretentious possibly.
Yeah, I think you could. Yeah.
Reegs: think that you could. Yeah.
Sidey: It definitely- But it's still-
Reegs: in the literal sense of it, it definitely is pretending as well to be about something else, most of which went over my head,
Sidey: Yeah. But actually I think the crux of the actual story is very simple, is- Yeah ... is someone who's devastated and is just doing a coping strategy, which
Cris: really
Sidey: really work
Cris: of.
Sidey: sort of.
Cris: Fact that
Sidey: fact that the runtime is pretty brisk as well. It's probably similar to Blue Steel. It's about an hour 40 maybe tops. Yeah. [01:04:00] So it doesn't overstay its welcome and there's enough in there. Visually I think it's great. I think Juliette Binoche is fucking brilliant in it. She's... Really exceptional performance.
So I really enjoyed it. Binoche cake. Yeah. What'd you think, Riggs?
Reegs: Yeah, I loved it. Yeah. Good mature
Dan: Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. You liked it as well. All right, it's clean sweep from- Yeah. And trois
Sidey: clean sweep from- Yeah ... un, deux, trois.
Reegs: trois. Yeah, I definitely thought this was a banger
Sidey: And mash.
Dan: Well,
there you go. Maybe we will do a, a white or a red theme and you might see the, the tricolor, the, the- Yeah. The full tricolor,
Sidey: the- Yeah
Reegs: The full tricolore, yeah ...
Dan: come out later. Cool.
Reegs: Right. S-
some kind of recommend then,
I guess. Strong. Strong.
Sidey: A blur rec- blur recommend.
Reegs: strong blue recommend
Sidey: Money shot. Which means after Blue Week the conclusion of Blue Week, I think it's Riggs to nominate.
Reegs: No, I think it's gotta be you, isn't it? I've nominated last
Sidey: no. Yeah, we bullied you relentlessly. So yeah, it is one of you two. One
Reegs: of you two, yeah. Okay.
Dan: I will say [01:05:00] Memories of Murder.
Sidey: Oh, we're going in?
Dan: that is on Danny Curzon Street as well, and
Reegs: right ... I,
Sidey: the fuck is it? I don't know what that is. Me-
Dan: Okay. So, I- Have you seen
Sidey: Water Colored Memories of a Murder, 2003.
Dan: It's a South Korean joint.
Sidey: Ah, hustle. No. No.
Oh, it's Bong Joon Ho. Okay. Yeah.
Dan: Okay.
Sidey: Okay.
Dan: not
Sidey: seen it- In. I'm in
Dan: I haven't. But that is gonna kick us off. I was thinking of Pig,
Reegs: Oh yeah. I haven't seen that.
Sidey: Cage.
Dan: the Nick Cage one.
Sidey: one. It's c- Yeah, do it.
Dan: Well, let's
do that then. So that's gonna be our movies. Why don't you at home watch these this week as well, and join us next week to discuss what we thought of them?
Cris: Or-
Sidey: Or-
Reegs: that because Bong Joon Ho did this one, and then he did
Sidey: The pig
Reegs: He did Okja- Yeah ... and then y- it made you think of, 'cause it's a giant pig in that, and that's why we're
Dan: That may be the way my mind thinks. Mm-hmm. It may not be. Let's find out next week.
Reegs: I've [01:06:00] just Reech'd you.
Dan: around.
Sidey: All that remains is to say Sidie signing out.
Reegs: And Reech has left the building.
La ra va
Sidey: da-da-da.
Dan: Dan's gone
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