Holidays & Aftersun

Aftersun

Reegs: Shall we go? Right. Welcome to Bad Dads Film Review, the podcast that is to a sunny day at the beach as a used syringe is to building sandcastles. This week, we're packing our bags for the top five holidays, that annual ritual in which the British spend a year's wages flying to countries they voted to keep the population of out of Britain, only to confirm what they already suspected at home: that they don't like their children and increasingly aren't sure about their wife either. We'll be demanding chips with everything, insisting that everyone speaks our language, and enduring more screaming children than a Gazan border crossing. Lurching from that into our main feature, it's Aftersun, Charlotte Wells' devastating debut in which Paul Mescal and Frankie Corio play a young father and his daughter on a cheap package holiday in Turkey. It's a film that takes the exact setting we're about to spend minutes mocking and uses it to deliver a strikingly precise depiction of a parent's hidden depression seen through the eyes of a child who didn't understand what Ladies and gentlemen, we'll shortly be commencing our descent into spoiler territory. For your comfort and safety, please ensure your seatbelt is fastened low and tight across your lap, your dignity is stowed in the o- overhead locker or under the seat in front of you, and your expectations are set at a level commensurate with the price of the ticket, which is to say absolutely free. In the unlikely event of a sudden loss of interest, please do not attempt to operate the emergency exit. Simply close your eyes and wait for it to end, just as we'll be doing. With that said and done, let's meet this week's reasons why the Foreign Office issues travel advisories, starting with Dan. He's so old he predates the concept of leisure entirely, having been born into a Britain where the only acceptable reason to lie down during daylight was to die of cholera.

Dan: Well, back in my day, they never had passports, you know? There

Reegs: my day, they never had passports, you know? There you go.

Dan: you go.

Reegs: His last fuck was packed in a steamer trunk bound for Rhodesia in 1923 and was never seen again.

Dan: You just let them know you were British, you'd go anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, that was enough.

Reegs: Then there's Striking Chris, a man who approaches cinema with the same generous spirit and sophisticated worldview he brings to his Tinder profile, which reads, "No fat chicks." Unless there's a man having his fingers removed one at a time by someone calmly explaining why he deserves it, Chris watches films with the painfully resigned air of a man being euthanized against his wishes by a vet.

Cris: Yeah.

Reegs: Slathered head to toe in third place- ... is the man who explained at considerable length that you can't just spray it on, it has to be worked in by hand, ideally by a strange m- a stranger, and who assures me that the bottle clearly says, "Apply liberally to the affected area." It's Sidey. Hello. And then there's me, Riggs. Hello. Hello, Riggs.

Dan: Hello, Riggs. Hi, Simon.

Reegs: Hi. Holidays. We're

Sidey: just been on holiday. You did get a holiday. Yeah.

Reegs: that's why I thought of it. It was- Yeah ... it took me a long time to come up with the A long time. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: It was fun. It seems like a distant memory now. It really was only- We've We've got- we've had holiday dramas.

Sidey: We've got holiday dramas. We're going away in July and our flight's been canceled.

Dan: What? What?

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Oh, when, after the Streets?

Sidey: the 3th? Yeah. Yeah. So we can get there, but we can't get back.

Reegs: Well, you're already there, so, uh

Sidey: Uh, not for recording, but I'm happy for the whole thing to be canceled, to be honest. When- when's the... Where were you going? Malta.

Dan: Wha- when's the... Where were you going? Or were you not g- Malta? No, I'm

Sidey: We are still going to Malta. There's a, a f- a lady I work with going to Malta in eight days. Yeah? she told me today. me today. believe there's quite a lot of building work going on because they, they got ravaged by a storm, didn't they? Oh, right. But I think the area that we're going to is okay. But yeah, I'm going... So it's with the in-laws and the extended in-laws. There's nine of us going. So. Wow.

Dan: Family holiday with be the worst result ever if it got canceled. Be the worst result ever if you got cancer. I, I normally t- get really drunk on those holidays. Mm. You know, it's all

Sidey: Yeah, that's what I'm planning to do. Yeah ...

Dan: you know, you just hunker down. Is there anyone you'll be able to hunker down with? Probably some Alan. Yeah. We'll just get bladdered together.

Sidey: just Malin.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: We'll just get drunk together. Oh, yeah.

Dan: Okay, 'cause I did a, I did a holiday like that- My

Sidey: last- No, father-in-law's all right, actually. We'll, we'll have some beers.

Dan: recently. You, you've just done the family holiday. Yeah. But just the, the immediate

Sidey: I realize, well, I've found out today, 'cause what happens... I'm not, I'm not gonna put this out, but my brother-in-law will have to one-up you all the time. So if you say- Yeah ... "I did blah," it's, that's mogging.

Reegs: Oh, that's what that's called. That's what mogging

Sidey: mogging is, yeah mogging is. Okay. Yeah. And it's, it comes from the term, It's from the manosphere. Yeah. A mog alpha male of the group. So mog, you, the, you know, the, the male, you So yeah. So that's what I have to... That's the kind of shit I have to put up with when I'm away

Reegs: Mogging?

Sidey: Yeah. just so- Which I could do, I can do without that in my life ... it's just so childish, isn't it? Especially on holiday.

Dan: it? That's mogging. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's inse- comes from insecurity- Yeah ... really. It comes from, That's why I do it anyway. Who's next on holiday here? When's your next holiday, Chris?

Cris: fuck knows. Thailand Thailand in

Dan: Thailand in January Th- Thailand, January. You, you're

Sidey: I'm July, yeah. Malta

Reegs: July, I'm going to the Streets Festival. I don't think that really counts as a holiday, but then we're going to France at the end of August. France. Yeah, on the trains. Gonna train it round all of France.

Sidey: Nice. Have

Dan: you got any trips off the rock before then anywhere?

Cris: The Streets in London.

Reegs: Streets, yeah.

Dan: Yeah, okay. Yeah. 'Cause I, I go away

Reegs: mogging us? Is this some sort of

Dan: yeah. That's what I say. I'm, I'm getting good at it, aren't I? I'm going away in June to London. We are in June. London town. Oh,

Sidey: Oh, going to see your uncle, Gav? uncle.

Cris: Yeah, the

Dan: Gonna go for the England-Panama match. Panamama. the key anal.

Sidey: Nice. Okay, cool. Anyone watch anything this week? Reeves, what about you?

Reegs: I finished off Spider-Noir. Oh,

Sidey: Oh, yeah? Strong recommend? Yeah,

Dan: you want to

Reegs: I enjoyed that. I thought it took a little dip in the middle, but generally

Dan: I really enjoyed

Reegs: fun. Nic Cage is great in it, and the plot is nice and neat and,

Dan: And-

Reegs: and it looks a million

Dan: sufficiently different and- Yeah, yeah ... not the way you think- The way you would find that, yeah ... things are gonna go and pan out. Yeah, really enjoyed that. A good recommend, I think.

Reegs: Really plays into the noir-y elements towards- Yeah ... the end as well.

Dan: they will do a second series,

Reegs: don't know. I think it's good to just... You've done something. It was good. Just, I,

Dan: you know- Leave it alone careers,

Reegs: but-

Sidey: they've got Spider-Ham and the robot one from... Yeah. Do that. Do those. Yeah. Yeah. Do all those.

Reegs: Yeah. Don't, don't... Like, this was good. By an amazing coincidence or whatever, you know, 'cause it could've been fucking awful- Yeah but it was good, so leave it at that and don't do it again.

Dan: know, because it could've been fucking awful. Yeah. It's good, so leave it at that and don't do it again. Different universes, though, that, with, you know, Spider-Man and- Yeah ... I, I think that's got legs in it. Maybe eight. Yeah. I watched Is This Thing On?- the John Bishop thing

Reegs: the John

Dan: John Bishop Bradley Cooper directed

Reegs: Will

Sidey: it as well. Yeah. Yeah, Will Annette is Brit- is John Bishop, yeah. It

Dan: he's John Bishop. It is John Bishop. LA, LA, LA.

Sidey: It's good, isn't it? Is this- I liked it ... a

Reegs: Scouse accent,

Sidey: No, no. It's, it's, it's the inspiration of- Transported ... transported to New York. To

Dan: York. And yeah- But it

Sidey: play out, you know... He said, John Bishop, you know, he got left her or whatever, then was just walking around and saw an open mic night and went in and... And that literally is how it started. And then they do that in the Yeah ... keep it real like that, yeah. And he just, you know, goes on stage without a fucking clue about how to do it, and just speaks about having a fucking midlife crisis and stuff, yeah.

Dan: about getting a divorce and about, you know, how his relationship's shit. It's a 10-minute kind of skit

Sidey: gets a few laughs, turns, that turns into him getting really addicted to that kind of or really pumped up by that.

Dan: You know, it gives him a little bit of joy in an otherwise monotonous

Reegs: to make Will Arnett look more horse-like?

Sidey: No? No, he looks really good in it, actually.

Dan: Y- yeah. I, I, I really liked it. I watched it, ... It's not for somebody who's doing stand-up comedy a hugely funny film, to be honest. It's not got,

Sidey: No, it's not really about that

Dan: no, it's, it's

Cris: it a film or is it a series?

Sidey: film. No,

Dan: a film or is

Cris: where can we see

Dan: You can watch it on Disney, if you have that. Dizzle. So I watched that,

Sidey: you enjoy it? I,

Dan: it? I, I did enjoy it. I r- a- actually, it's one of those films that got me continuing to think about things afterwards, and I like Bradley Cooper, and I like the way that he's,

Sidey: plays a kind of stoner sort of dick,

Dan: Yeah. He, he plays a guy called Balls, who's just his mate, and he's just a bit of a fuck-up and has got no,

Sidey: wife's just kind of tolerating

Dan: yeah.

Sidey: Loser.

Dan: but he, he's just one of those characters you know he kind of flips from one side to another and- He directed the film ... and he directed the film, and I, I just thought he, he did it, he did r- did it well, and I enjoyed it, yeah.

Sidey: What about you, Chris?

Cris: I watched two things this week. Also, well, which sadly I didn't watch the, the main event for this week's but I didn't have time. I've watched Heat, which made me realize I've never watched Heat.

Sidey: the, movie? Were you not here when we did it? 'Cause you, you mustn't have been here when we did it.

Cris: I didn't... No, it was before my, me joining the

Sidey: Or you were on holiday or something, yeah.

Reegs: Oh, it's good, innit? Before your kids.

Dan: And- how good is it?

Cris: It was good, but I, I've only g- I've got another 45

Dan: minutes of it. I was about

Reegs: it's long

Cris: cut itself ... it's, it's long and it's always

Sidey: So have you got to the shootout yet in the street?

Dan: Not if got to when they go-

Reegs: be pretty much on it

Cris: they go, when they go into,

Sidey: the bank? Okay. Oh.

Cris: where exactly when-

Reegs: it's about to really kick

Cris: That's where exactly

Dan: you can't, if you can walk away and

Sidey: you're about to hit a hall of f- like absolute hall of fame sequence

Cris: Well, that's the thing, and I, I, I, I'm gonna it- They use it, they actually use it in training for like gr- you know, SWAT team shit, Okay. I, I really enjoyed it, and, and I, I'm thinking now that I might do it again in maybe a couple of months' time where I, when I kinda know what I'm expecting. I'll finish it, and then I'll be like, "Right, I'm gonna watch it You could watch that like once a year and enjoy it every kinda just see a bit more, and yeah, it was really good.

Dan: if that's the answer for you, Chris. You know- ... w- these longer films are actually good. You watch them in two half- Half, yeah ... you know. Rather than watching two films of an hour and a half that aren't any good, watch one film for three hours, but break it into two. Which

Cris: is actually, yeah, which is today and tomorrow. Yeah, I'm probably gonna do that. Yeah,

Sidey: like De Niro's keeping it, like fairly, like paired down, whereas Pacino's going full mega, and they cut loads of stuff, like he's a cocaine addict, but that you don't see that in the film. Right. It's fairly obvious- Yeah ... 'cause he's so fucking, like big. Yeah, so- But there was loads of scenes. Crazy.

Reegs: ass." You've got all

Cris: these, yeah, all the way up that was the thing, I was kinda asking myself, where are these quotes coming from? Is this a tribute to something, or is it just him being fucking mental?

Reegs: it's just him being crazy. "When I

Cris: of a woman's ass, I just think of it as a woman's ass. ass. ass. And so he just kinda goes, does all these things, and you're like,

Reegs: "Oh, what the-" You can see how I was comparing Den of Thieves to,

Cris: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, I am disappointed that De Niro's name is Neil.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. Neil McCauley. They're doing a sequel

Reegs: a hard man's name. No, I know what you

Sidey: They're doing a sequel to it. Just don't know how that's

Cris: a sequel to it. Don't know how that- Your name is... You, you are the mastermind of all. You're this guy.

Dan: it's already halved him

Cris: you're all kind of- Yeah you know, I dunno, mathematically brain mastermind, and your name Yeah. It's just a bit of a... I dunno. I don't

Sidey: that's the name they gave him.

Cris: they gave him Yeah. I know. And I've watched another thing, which do you know what? I really enjoyed this, and it was, it was a bit of a breeze. It's called How to Make a Killing. Oh.

Sidey: Oh, it's

Cris: Margaret Qualley and the absolute chin of Hollywood, Glen Powell.

Sidey: Glenn Powell, yeah.

Cris: What a chin on the

Sidey: boy. It's ki- No, the, it's a, it's a thing Maybe it's wrong it, it, he kills all the family, doesn't

Cris: Yes. He goes up-

Sidey: Kind Hearts and Coronets? What's the, what's the Alec Guinness one? Coronets. It's Kind Heart- It is Kind Hearts

Cris: It's it's... I, I really enjoyed it, and it's a, it's a really good t- twist at the end where you kinda see it, but you don't with be... I- it's good. I- I'm not gonna spoil it too much, but I enjoyed it, and it's a, it's a good

Dan: Is... Sorry, this has got Kind Hearts and Coronets?

Sidey: It's the same story. Yeah. It's like sim- similar story. He's gotta kill everyone to get the inheritance. But, but he's,

Cris: It starts with him in prison telling a story to the priest, and he's on- Oh, okay before his last meal. that And then he kinda goes through on how... He's like, "You know why I'm here. You know what I've done. Let me tell you what I've done." And he goes through. Basically, he's born into the, the, the daughter of one of the wealthiest people in America, has an affair or gets pregnant, and the dad i- w- who is Ed Harris, he's like, "You need, you know what you need to do. Not in this house. We're not having that. We're not having a bastard kid." And she gets disowned, lives in New Jersey somewhere. And, and then obviously h- his mom dies, and he's the sixth or seventh heir to the family fortune. And it just kinda shows how he... Obviously, it's hardly

Reegs: them all off

Cris: yeah, how he does it. But it's, it's, it's, it's... And, and it's funny how Margaret Qualley comes into- She's smoking. Oh, my God. That's

Reegs: thingy's daughter, Andie MacDowell.

Cris: Yeah, and Dennis Quaid.

Dan: So if you like that,

Reegs: She's great though, isn't

Dan: if you like that movie, watch Kind Hearts and Coronets, what that was based on- Yes with Alec Guinness. Okay. And it is one of the

Sidey: fucking smokes Bill as well.

Cris: He's... Oh my God, the chin on him. It's unbelievable, and she's got a few scenes where... I don't know if... Because I've seen her in the Tarantino thing with Brad Pitt where she's, her feet are up, and it's like feet content. But in this one, it's quite kinda like that, and she just keeps doing the, the move with the legs where you

Sidey: can kind of see- Have you seen her in The Substance?

Cris: Substance? Yeah, I've seen that.

Sidey: yeah, I know it's, they-

Cris: CGI the boobs and all that. Yeah. But still, it's... So yeah, she's, she's kinda the, the... She's good in it as well, and it's, it's, it's a good film. I, I enjoyed it. And again, it's, I think, an hour and 40 minutes or something like that, or an hour and a half. It's short. So yeah, so it's like right on it. It's... I enjoyed, I really enjoyed that actually.

Sidey: Nice. I watched Clarkson's Farm. The episodes of that that dropped, 'cause my daughters well into that and I quite like it as well. It's good. That was good. So four episodes of that, and I smashed through like another 11 episodes of The Pit. Oh, right. It's fucking excellent. Yeah. Yeah, it's so good.

Reegs: I do hear how good that is.

Sidey: Really,

Cris: good that is. Have you seen the... There was a thing on... I've seen... It went on my Instagram feed with the amount of stuff that people steal from Clarkson's pub.

Sidey: Yeah, well he do- He talks about it in the, in the thing, in the, in the show. He's like, "Fuck's sake." He's like, "The light bulbs, every day in the light... In The Bogs the light bulbs are gone." He's like, "400 pint glasses a week." Like, all this stuff. Yeah. 'Cause it's a destination pub and people just wanna nick stuff out of there. 'Cause we had- Souvenir.

Cris: The thing from the toilets.

Sidey: He said they spend 40 grand a month on parking attendants. Yeah. They have to get the septic tank. Like, all this sort of shit. And then it's like, yeah, but

Dan: than West Ham were spending.

Sidey: You s- But they're making 22 million a year on the beer that they make, you know? So it's like keep crying, you And, you know, we went to the pub and it's not great. It's not, it's not... They, they do a bit where they have they have a Christmas party in there for all their friends and family, and you're like, "That's what I want it to be like." Not necessarily Christmas, but like just a good pub- Yeah ... where you're in there, you're hunkered down, you have a load of beers. When you go there as, like, just a normal punter, you can, you can barely find anywhere to sit. Barely sit outside. Yeah. We, we had, like, a couple of beers on the terrace- Yeah ... then we're like, "Let's get the fuck out of here." It was freezing cold. It's just not a great pub experience. Yeah, it wasn't... Oh, y- I was surprised with the outside bit that it didn't

Cris: pub experience. Yeah, it wasn't... y- I was surprised with the outside bit that it didn't have heaters. You would think

Sidey: had one or two, and you were, like, trying to

Cris: Every- everyone was kinda ha- hanging around the... It's great view. Yeah. But because you're on the wrong side on the, on the terrace, it's not on the sunny side. It's at the back of the pub and it's covered because obviously

Sidey: It was, could be raining, yeah

Cris: do it when it's raining or whatever, you can still sit outside. But it was, and it's ho- the wind is howling. It's not... Obviously we went in November, end of November, but it still could've been done. A- again, this is me crying because I know that's a millionaire. If that would be just a normal pub, that it's a country pub and you end up in it, you'd be like, "Oh, it's all right. This, you

Sidey: know- If it wasn't a, if it wasn't, you know, something that'd been on telly and it, it was just a normal pub, it would've been great. You could've gone inside- Yeah, yeah, yeah ... sat by the fire- Yeah ... you know, stayed there all afternoon and had a load of pints, but you just couldn't do it, so. But, but anyway, the show's quite

Reegs: more like a theme park than a pub.

Sidey: Basically, yeah. So that's what I watched. Shall we talk about holidays?

Cris: Yep.

Dan: Holiday.

Sidey: Top five holidays. It's quite a rich topic- Yeah ... I think.

Cris: Well, it depends on how you interpret it as well, right?

Sidey: True dat. True dat.

Dan: vacations?

Reegs: That is mostly how I chose to interpret it, but like Chris says, there's obviously all

Dan: there's obviously all sorts of ways. There's different ways you could do it. You could use Doc Holliday,

Reegs: Could.

Cris: You could do, yeah.

Reegs: Is that what you're going with first?

Cris: that what you're going with first? Is that your first nom?

Dan: not... Hey. You- you're the, you're the man that's, that's brought this party. You kick us off with the first-

Reegs: gonna go with- ... pineapple juice ... Doc Holliday.

Dan: I actually don't

Reegs: I actually don't know a lot about Doc Holliday. Tell us about Doc Holliday. Let's not- Well,

Dan: Let's not- Well, Doc Holliday was in Tombstone, wasn't he? He was Val Kilmer,

Reegs: Oh, yeah. Yeah Of course. He was a real... Yes, he was a real outlaw, wasn't he? A real

Cris: yeah.

Dan: yeah. Yeah. And he-

Cris: had

Dan: after tuberculosis? Yeah. He, he had in- Pretty sure

Sidey: sure- Didn't, didn't everyone back then? In, in

Reegs: Did everyone, did anyone have Top Trumps of cowboys?

Dan: had one of them Top Trumps cards. That's a real

Sidey: No.

Reegs: It would have like Billy the Kid and all that, and one of them was Doc Holliday. He was quite good. Wyatt Earp was pretty

Dan: pretty good. And he, he... Val Kilmer was brilliant in,

Cris: Oh,

Sidey: he was amazing, yeah. What were the categories? Sharpshooting?

Dan: yeah. in, in this.

Reegs: Yeah

Sidey: that it?

Reegs: H- age Yeah 'Cause Billy the Kid was shit for that 'cause he was good at... there was, like, notoriety And something else. But

Dan: But yeah, he was, he was peak of his powers, Val playing the sharp shooter that was Doc Holliday. And he'd go, "Ain't that a Huckleberry?" And,

Cris: was one of them that he would think he's actually not there, or he's a bit like that, or he

Dan: always drunk or- Yeah under the

Cris: he would always have a he

Dan: he was quick on the draw.

Reegs: The Unforgiven, are we talking about?

Dan: No, we're talking about Tombstone- Tombstone ... I believe it was called.

Cris: It's one of the best Westerns you'll ever see in your

Sidey: I saw a post by someone, I don't know if they've worked on that film, but they were like, "Listen, people say you're not supposed to speak ill of the dead." But they're like, "Fuck that. Val Kilmer was a fucking asshole." Really? Yeah. Said, "Worked with him on- That is brilliant ... and he was a total fucking dick, like

Reegs: Oh, really? I, I heard he was really nice,

Dan: Yeah, I suppose different films... I-

Sidey: had a bad experience with him, I guess

Dan: I know he went full method in the Doors and around-

Reegs: and killed himself?

Dan: Did He... take all the drugs and kill himself? He... well- he he took a load of drugs and just kinda walked around the set insisting people call him Jim. You know, it was one of those.

Sidey: I hate all that shit ...

Dan: full, method. But that's a great movie as well. I mean- That was amazing ... val Kilmer week. We'll have to do that because he,

Cris: Sultan Sea was another one that was really

Dan: he

Sidey: we could do The Island of Dr. Moreau again.

Dan: again ... he did the what was the, the comic one? Hard? Spy Hard, I think it might... Yeah. Was it Spy Hard? It was Hard. Where there was a tunnel

Reegs: The one with the whole sequence that's in reverse

Dan: might've been. The, at the end he goes, "I I miss you most of all, Mr. Scarecrow." And he hadn't been in it the whole time. Yeah. It was, it was kinda funny, that. But yeah, that wasn't one that I was gonna start the holiday sequence with, but Doc Holliday came to my mind. over to you, Chris.

Sidey: The no look.

Cris: okay. Oh, I kind of thought a, a little bit differently on, on this one with a few of them, not all of them, but just a few of them. Just because the the Valentine's Day is a holiday, or at least in America apparently. And there's obviously the great film that is Valentine's Day, 2010. There's the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind- Yeah ... is based on Valentine's Day. Okay. And obviously the cult classic horror, My Bloody Valentine

Sidey: Great band

Cris: So that's, which is, uh, from 1981. uh, when I wasn't born yet. But that

Sidey: was- It's a slasher movie, that one, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: So there's, there's a few of them. I've got a few others, which is the, I don't know, the New Year's Eve. There's New Year's Eve in 2011. When Harry Met Sally, and The Apartment are based in, on New Year's Eve. And one for, because it's coming in a month's time almost to the day Independence Day on the 4th of July. Yeah. Born on the 4th of July. Yeah. And The Sandlot, which I have to say I've never heard of this, but it's it's about the 4th of July, and it's about Independence Day. Well, or based on Independence

Dan: gonna- Like a

Reegs: another one that has a key scene set on 4th of July, Chris, that I was gonna talk about next, was Jaws.

Sidey: Yeah. Yes. So- Amity, Amity Island.

Reegs: Yeah. 1975, Steven Spielberg, Roy Schneider, Richard Dreyfuss, Robert Shaw.

Sidey: Bruce the Shark. Bruce

Reegs: the shark.

Dan: Was

Cris: that his name, the shark? Yeah, yeah. Bruce?

Sidey: Do you see Spielberg turned up at a pub quiz?

Reegs: or

Cris: turn up at a pub quiz. What, the, the shark hated that name?

Reegs: name? No. Spielberg hated it. Oh. They spent a lot of money on the shark, and Got it ... it looked terrible. So part of the movie's mystique and appeal, appeal lies in the mystique of you not really seeing the shark until very late in the movie, and that happened because the prop was not very good. So that's-

Sidey: Did you see that? He turned,

Reegs: see that?

Sidey: Spielberg turned up at a pub quiz this week.

Dan: No,

Reegs: He went to a Steven Spielberg-themed pub quiz, and was the guest- was the speaker. D- did- read the

Sidey: he did the quiz. Wow. Yeah.

Dan: Okay. There was a shark that turned up on

Reegs: you kill on

Sidey: Did you see that thing? The tiger shark.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: Fucking

Reegs: that? Tiger shark? Yeah. Yeah. Well, hell. No, there's one in the Mediterranean. That one.

Sidey: No, the one on Greve de Outeir. Yeah. A four, four-meter long tiger shark washed up on the beach. Four meters? I don't think

Dan: I don't think it was a tiger shark. It was a thresher

Sidey: It was, a tiger shark. The- there's a, kerry's Lot. The, the... I've- Four meters? Yeah. When it first washed up, it was still alive, and they couldn't revive it, and then eventually it went off again. It washed off again. Yeah, it was a tiger. I'll show you the photo of it if, From the fisheries.

Dan: I didn't know there was a tiger

Cris: So can we have some, some of it? Soup, something.

Sidey: Shark fin soup. Yeah. Jaws was class. So there's loads of people that have- the, the beach Well, the mayor won't close it down, will he? Yeah. but- ... then shot- Yeah ... And that fucking old hag who looks way too old to have a tiny little kid slaps him around the face. Like- Yeah I don't think it was Roy Schneider's fault. But she's grieving, I suppose, you have to let her have that everyone's favorite sex pest turned Christian Trump grifter, Russell Brand ... Russell Brand was in- Forgetting Sarah Marshall ... Forg- forgetting Sarah Marshall, yeah, with Jason Segel. And

Reegs: Jonah Hill?

Sidey: I was thinking of Kirsten West

Reegs: Oh, yes, the romantic lead.

Sidey: the well, yeah, they are, they go away on their j- I wanna say it's to Hawaii, but I can't actually remember the destination. Yeah. And then, you know, dur- it's when Russell Brand was still popular.

Reegs: She used to basic- she went out with him, didn't she? And he's now a big, successful rock star with his... Jonah Hill's his personal assistant,

Sidey: Yeah, that's right. Jonah Hill was in it, yeah. And then but then all the, at the start, Jason Segel was just doing stuff on his own in his room, and it was quite funny. He was doing, like, you shall not pass and stuff. Yeah. He's completely bollock

Reegs: Yeah. He's completely bollock naked in that film. You see his cock.

Sidey: that film. You see his cock. Yeah. This is part of why it sticks in my memory. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. I actually- He was really funny and then he doesn't,

Reegs: funnier than I... Like, it was one of those where, like, the title put me off anyway, and then, you know, you think, "Fucking hell, Russell Brand." Even before I knew what a cunt he is,

Sidey: Yeah. Well, I used to really like him when he was, when he had his radio, BBC Radio 2 show in the evenings, and that's when he actually started to become a real... Well, obviously there was stuff before that, but he did the, the phone call with, with Andrew Sachs as well, and that was on BBC Radio. It's his show. That's when it all started to go a bit Pete Tong. When he just couldn't even control that. But yeah. I, I did enjoy that film as well.

Reegs: It was way funnier

Sidey: to be. Yeah. Well, it was Judd Apatow as well, wasn't it? Yes. Good track record of making... It was part of that, that sweet spot. They did loads of those movies. It was quite good, yeah. Yeah. So

Dan: Did you ever see "The United States vs. Billie Holiday"?

Reegs: No.

Dan: No? So Billie Holiday, Lady Day as she's known, the jazz singer. Yeah. And it, it was a movie, I think it was Academy Award-nominated. It Was Andra Day, um, who is an actress, actor. And she meets with a radio journalist, 'cause I really think, you know, Billie Holiday's amazing. I've, I've got a load of her vinyl kind of records and things. And she did "Strange Fruits," which was a song about human rights, which really rubbed people up the wrong way because it was basically about, People getting lynched and hung, you know, that was a strange fruit. Like, you know, hanged, hung, hung, hanged. And and this movie w- was about that and kind of, you know, a, They arrest her and and put her into, into jail. I think she ended up, like, being a drug addict and, and kinda kind of tough, tough, heroin-ish-

Cris: Yeah, really bad. I read a book about that actually

Dan: a beautiful role actually. But yeah, it, it's you know, her, her voice is second to none, and the performance was absolutely amazing. I thought she actually had a, a good shot of winning the Academy Award. I'm not sure what year. It might have been around 2020, 2021. Okay. So- I've seen it.

Cris: It's good.

Dan: Yeah. It's you know, less vacation holiday, more name of the person Holiday. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's all right.

Reegs: Yeah. No, it's all right. I understood. that? Yeah, I did. Yeah. I did. Thank you.

Sidey: Crack that code,

Dan: the Holiday might have given it away. Oh, I didn't put two and two together. But yeah, it, it was, You know, she... I think she, she died after either drugs or alcohol. It was- Drugs it was one of those. But she was absolutely amazing that would be another strong Holiday choice from me. Yeah. That's two. Two I've done.

Reegs: I don't

Sidey: Well done. Well done, Dan

Reegs: people with holiday in their

Dan: the holidays. I'm just one-upping you. I'm mogging you all.

Cris: you all. Well, you have to, no? Is it me- Yeah ... that has to say something? What I'm going to say, I've about a film I'm going back in time when I was one year old in 1986. Mick Dundee travels to New

Sidey: Oh, what a film. Yeah.

Cris: He is on holiday/vacation, depending on where you're from. W- he gets an invitation from an American journalist. Yeah And he goes out of the Australian ba- Australian outback for the first time in his life to experience life in the big city.

Dan: Wow. And

Cris: it's obviously followed by a couple of them Crocodile Dundee II, and then Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles in 2001, which is him and his son go to California. Which I think is also a little bit to do with h- they're on v- they're on vacation. But that's, that's a great film for me. I, I remember watching it when I was a kid.

Dan: It's classic.

Sidey: is, like, perfect movie. Yeah. It's so good. It's so good. I love Crocodile Dundee II as well. Fucking great.

Cris: But the first

Sidey: he takes Ricko back to the Outback

Reegs: Which is the one where they're in the, on the subway, and he has to get a message That's the first one. That's, that's the finale.

Cris: when he goes to New York, yeah

Sidey: Yeah. You know, "He loves her," yeah. But the second, the second one is when

Dan: I love you.

Sidey: the Colombian, he has to take R- he gets him out and does him with his own Aboriginal ways. Yes, that's right. He had super aggressive tax avoidance, Paul Hogan. Really? Hulk's brother. And yeah, I think it was on

Dan: the government. He,

Sidey: the government. He yeah, he got done. He, I think he did jail time. Yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah.

Cris: Wow, okay. But this is my money. You're not touching my money. Yeah. I mean, fair enough,

Sidey: Yeah, he went full Lauryn Hill. Yeah. Yeah. And Wesley Snipes. Yeah.

Cris: a good shout

Sidey: Mm-hmm. Exactly. Went black. I love it

Reegs: In season two or three, I haven't got the exact one, of The Sopranos. It is the episode Commendatori. It was written by The Sopranos principal writer, David Chase, and it's the one where Tony goes off to Naples with Paulie and Chrissy tagging along. He's going there principally to, to do business but he ends up falling in love with the very beautiful daughter of the mobster, or in fact, she runs the place. But the, the ma- you know, that's the sort... There's sort of two plots, which is him sort of falling in love with this mob boss, but there's also Chrissy and Paulie desperate to connect with their culture in Italy, and I think it's really stand out, some of the scenes. Like, Paulie is just totally, you know, horrified by it. He can't talk the language. The locals don't connect with him at all. He doesn't like the food. When he has pasta, he's like, "Where's the ketchup?" You know, it's nothing more you know, like dispiriting than the shot of him in a, in Naples sitting in a McDonald's eating a burger, looking really sad at the... You know, because they've talked about how amazing- Yeah ... this trip to connect with their heritage will be. Chrissy doesn't have a lot of luck either. He's trying to go clean but meets one of Camorra, I think her name is. One of her underlings has got a load of heroin, so he just spends the week getting fucked on junk in his hotel room with these two guys, and then goes back on the plane with Tony, who's had this sort of life-changing experience, as he does pretty much every episode, with a woman. But it was a great episode,

Sidey: Commendatori. Yeah. What about some musical numbers? Madonna sings a song about holiday. "

Dan: Holiday." Which I always

Sidey: I always thought was weird 'cause Americans would normally say vacation. Yeah. But doesn't work.

Cris: but she's a, but she's English, no? No.

Sidey: No.

Cris: Oh, she's American?

Reegs: Madonna

Sidey: Ciccone. yeah. Oh, right, okay. Ciccone

Cris: Ciccone.

Dan: Yes, if you

Sidey: And then you've got "Club Tropicana" by Wham!. We all love that. Yeah. I know you're a big fan, Riggs, of- "Going to Ibiza," aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. "Going to Ibiza." You've just been with the

Reegs: Yeah,

Sidey: sang that we so we we have month-end drinks at work in the I, let's say

Dan: Every Friday Yeah.

Sidey: And the boss has got a massive, like fucking massive speakers, bit like the start of "Back to the Future." And sometimes the Bluetooth's a bit hooky on it, and one of the girls that really likes the Vengaboys had queued up the Vengaboys-

Reegs: the Vengaboys- Amazing but

Sidey: couldn't get it to work. But she turned the volume right up, and then all of a sudden it just fucking blasted out. Everyone, "Fuck!" The whole place like shat themselves when the Vengaboys came off. That's sick. So those are good. I guess the Beach Boys are kind of like an eternal kind of holiday

Dan: Well,

Sidey: vibe to them.

Dan: that, that links seamlessly onto my next one, which I actually watched. It was one of those things that I watched this week, and I'd forgotten to tell you all about, The Endless Summer. I don't know if you've ever seen that film. It's, it's like- I wonder what- the 1960s,

Sidey: the 1960s-

Dan: surf film.

Reegs: Oh, yes. I've seen this.

Dan: started... It, it, it's absolutely terrific, let's say. it's around a true story, a documentary type film of these two guys from America who want an endless summer. They, they've been surfing in the, the waves in California. And they, right, they're gonna go to all these different places around Africa and everything, and it's shot really kind of, you know- well, but old style cameras and

Sidey: Super

Dan: and Super 8 kind of stuff. And they're going surfing, they're meeting the locals. They're... It's really beautifully done. And it's they're going into where, like, as I say, sort of places that nobody was going in, in those days. And going on adventures and walks over sand dunes to get to waves and and there was just, like, locals there that had never seen anybody surfing

Reegs: the world was a lot bigger

Dan: The world was a big- And, and the world was a hell of a lot bigger. And they were just having such fun. It was such innocent, great fun, and they were going out and spent... They went to Senegal, and they went to sort of Hawaii and, and went to the Caribbean islands and went to all these different places. And it was fantastic, actually. A really classic... It's got a cult following. It allowed a lot of people, and it cha- it's one of those films that changed lives, you know? So it's one of those films that actually made a difference because after people watching it, they went traveling as well. Yeah. They went and did the same, and it started off

Reegs: went for their own endless summer, Dan.

Dan: They, it went off for their own endless summer, and they went in for th- this surf culture, which is still running today, and people will go... You know, surfers will find the cheapest digs, and they will stay in, like, the most far off remote places. As long as there's a wave there- They're happy. Yeah, yeah they're happy. And I've always found them to be brilliant travelers, actually, surfers. When I've popped up in places in Indonesia, and you think there's no one at... You think there's a wave. Geez, actually, there's a couple

Reegs: there's a wave, there's a surfer

Dan: There's a surfer. There's a surfer. Exactly. That was a really good film I watched this, this week as well. Endless Summer.

Cris: Nice. Is it me again?

Reegs: you, Christian.

Cris: Well, I've got a film that I know you love especially, Riggs and it's starts on St. Patty's Day is the Boondock Saints. Mm. I know you love this one. And it's also the horror flick Leprechaun.

Reegs: Yeah. Classic. Leprechaun 4: Leprechaun in Space is probably the best.

Cris: I've not seen any of them, but that is a, a good one, I, I would say. And I'm gonna say at Christmas we all know Christmas, It's a Wonderful Life, Home Alone, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Thanksgiving. Home Planes, Trains and Automobiles.

Reegs: the movie Thanksgiving.

Cris: The movie Thanksgiving. The movie Thanksgiving. Have you seen that one? Eli Roth. Oh, it's good. It's about

Reegs: You seen that one? Eli Roth. Oh, it's good. It's about a bunch of people who get killed on Black Friday. Like- Nice ... literally stampeded to death because they're trying to grab

Cris: Oh, yes. I've seen... Oh, well, I've not seen it all, but I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When, when everybody's

Reegs: start. Where everybody's queuing up. Yeah. Yeah, okay. It's a brilliant opening.

Cris: a brilliant movie. And Halloween, Halloween the film, Hocus Pocus, Trick or Treat, all that kind of stuff. And I'm going to say Another classic in 1984, Axel Foley travels to California in disguise that he's on holiday

Sidey: Like A Busman's Holiday. Yeah. Yeah.

Cris: And he actually is not on holiday. He just wants to investigate his friend's murder.

Reegs: Hills cop.

Cris: Yes. He wants to investigate

Sidey: you seen the new one?

Reegs: No. Have you seen the new one?

Cris: No. I've not seen the new one, actually. I'm a bit disappointed with myself because I, I enjoyed the, the- the great I thought it were quite good. Yeah. But I didn't see the new one. Or, or mostly because I find new Eddie Murphy quite censored.

Sidey: He's aged well though.

Cris: well though. Oh, yeah, he looks amazing, but- Incredible but he's not, I dunno, he's not as, as funny. I, I-

Sidey: Yeah. I was in,

Cris: maybe I'm

Reegs: such a lot of flack for it. Like, Raw was really funny at the time, but

Sidey: all about AIDS and gays.

Reegs: And, and, and it was very funny at the time. People laughed at it. I ... That's definitely true because I was one of them. But it's aged really badly, the humor. Yeah.

Sidey: Yes so I, I was at CrossFit this morning and, CrossFit.

Cris: CrossFit.

Sidey: they always have like s- they've just gone to YouTube and put tunes on. Whatever this fucking mix was. I, I was listening to it, and I just fucking knew that no one else in there had a clue that it was Eddie Murphy. Mm. You know, "My girl

Cris: was Eddie Murphy. yeah. Going, "My girl-" Oh, yeah. With

Sidey: the

Reegs: yeah. Party all the

Sidey: Oh, yeah. I see. And so the DJ was, like, making it more of a banger, and I was like, "No one fucking knows any of this." That's Eddie Murphy.

Cris: Well, is it him and Rick James, or is it just him? Yeah, it's

Sidey: it just him? No, it's just him. He, he looks... He break- He does himself up to look a bit like Rick

Reegs: he does, yeah, in the video.

Sidey: Yeah. Hmm.

Cris: Well, apparently to-- just sorry to cut into this, but apparently there is a, the story that him and Rick James were best mates, and Eddie Murphy's brother apparently got slapped and by Rick James at the VIP room at Studio 54. And then Eddie Murphy had Rick James kicked out because he's like, "You don't do that."

Reegs: Mm-hmm.

Sidey: Didn't he also get pulled over with a tranny prostitute in his car?

Reegs: Yeah, I think so. But fuck it.

Cris: look, who hasn't really? Who, who hasn't done that? Yeah. So, you know. Yeah.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: I've got some holiday-themed films, actors, directors-y things. Yeah, baby. Yeah. What are they? Sunburn After Reading, Flight Club, Coastbusters, The Toweling Inferno Pack to the Future, and The Package Holiday of the Christ. That's terrible. Ryan Air Gosling would obviously star in it, along with Helena Bonham Charterjet EasyJet Lee Factor 50 Cent, and Tom Luxury Cruiseliner. It's really bad. And it'd be directed, of course, by Wes Sanderson and Martin Shoresesy. Yeah. But for a movie, let's have Y Tu Mamá

Sidey: También. Oh, yeah.

Reegs: You seen that one? Yeah. Classic Alfonso Cuarón, who went on to do lots of great movies The Revenant Gravity, et cetera, et cetera. And it's starring Gael Garcia Bernal, Diego Luna, who went on to be in the Star Wars films- Yeah and the very sexy Maribel-

Cris: importantly

Sidey: one They have a threesome at the end ... Maribel

Reegs: Oh, They have a threesome at the end ... Maribel Verdú. They do have a threesome at the end, and at some point you see Di- Diego Luna jerking off into a swimming pool, and he comes in it, which is pretty horny. Yeah. They basic- they're on a, they're on a road trip across Mexico, these two teenagers, and they try and get this, like, 30-year-old woman that they met at a wedding,

Sidey: And your mum as well

Reegs: her, and they do. And it's sort of, it's kinda sexy. It's about their burgeoning sexuality, and they both get off with her at different points. One of them fucks her, and then they kind of get off with each other, and they all g- go together, have a threesome and stuff. But then actually it becomes sort of deeply melancholy and very tragic when you start thinking about why this 30-year-old woman would really be trip, road trip with these two teenagers. And yeah, pans out all very sad, of course. Sidey?

Sidey: Some horrory Yes. Wicker Man. Yeah. It's not really a holiday, but he does sort of travel over to an island and ends up in a wicker effigy burnt to death. Nice. Midsommar

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: We, we all enjoyed that.

Dan: still gives me the horrors.

Reegs: We've got to do Hereditary before this podcast finishes.

Sidey: keep toying with the idea of, like, nominating

Reegs: Oh, please do, 'cause I've nearly pulled the trigger a million times, but I don't wanna be the

Dan: Is that something to do with

Reegs: Is that something to do with- It's the guy who wrote- This

Sidey: this is not like, this is not like Abigail where you're like, "Oh, I don't..." This is, like, out and out

Dan: yeah. This, this is the kind of thing that-

Reegs: It still

Dan: about a year later and still wake up sweating in the night.

Reegs: still has a scene in it that I would think I still think about,

Dan: Brilliant

Reegs: so

Sidey: When you come? when

Cris: you... Yeah, while you're trying to associate yourself.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Okay, okay.

Sidey: And The Shining.

Dan: Yeah. The

Reegs: Shinning?

Sidey: Yeah, where he just, like, chills out in a hotel for a while. Yeah.

Dan: of thing, isn't

Reegs: it's another New Year's Eve-y one, isn't it, really as well? 'Cause there's a bit of New Year's Eve stuff going on in The Shining, isn't it?

Sidey: There's parties going on. It's just g- good holiday vibes. After that, I think I'll just

Dan: Okay. well, if, if I was gonna mention a, give a few honorable mentions- Yes ... I would say In Bruges. Yes. Where they, the hitmen go on holiday because they've done a- Amazing ... a job

Sidey: They've done a whoopsie and they need to get out

Dan: and they need to get out of town, and they're told to go on holiday

Reegs: That Brendan

Dan: Is that the one with Jason? I- i- yeah, it is. And with with yeah, Farage ... Colin Farage.

Sidey: Out with Colin on Friday, weren't we? yeah. Chris, We were out with Colin on Friday, weren't we? Yeah.

Cris: we were out with Colin on Friday, weren't we? Yeah, I was. We were, yeah. We were with Colin, yeah. Megan's dog is called Colin

Dan: Y- Lost in Translation it's- Yeah ... it's a bit of a- Yeah a working kind of a working holiday for Bill Murray, but,

Sidey: holiday romance,

Dan: yeah, there's a holiday romance going on there. But I, I've got my nom as well. If I should go now?

Sidey: Go. Yeah. Been nattering on for ages.

Dan: it is that Gary Lineker film Before Sunrise which isn't Gary Lineker, it's Ri- Richard Linklater.

Sidey: Ri- Richard Linklater.

Dan: it, it's with Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy. I've nominated this maybe more than any other film that I've nominated in our top fives. I've certainly given it a honorable mention. A young man and woman meet on a train in Europe and wind up spending a, a night together a- after their kind of holidays have collided in Vienna. They know that it will probably be their only night together because they're not able to to, to stay longer than that for various reasons, but they promise to meet back in a year right at the end of the film. And whether that happens or not, you'd have to watch the other two or three films to to understand. But I remember coming into this film a little bit like we'd said earlier for our midweeker, where you come into a film and you know nothing about it. It's just something you turn on, and maybe it's already started after 20, 30 seconds, five minutes, you're not sure, but it just kinda sucks you in. And we talked about Abigail being part of one of those films. If you know nothing about it, it's probably you're gonna enjoy it more. Whereas this is a totally different film to Abigail. But it was just one of those films I knew nothing about and totally got enraptured by, and that would be my nom.

Cris: I'm gonna give a shout-out to a film that I really, really liked. Message from the King. It's a film from 2016 directed by Fabrice Du Welz, and it's got Simon Cornwell, and stars Chadwick Boseman, Luke Evans, and Teresa Palmer. Chadwick Boseman is a South African cop, which we find towards the end, and he went He kinda loses connection with his sister who lives in Los Angeles. He flies into Los Angeles for th- He's only got three days, and he's on holiday when they have to put the visa on, and what, you know, purpose of your visit, whatever. It's like, "I'm on holiday." What, with $600 and a three-day accommodation. He's like, "Yeah, yeah, I'm just here to visit a little bit and whatever." And they're like, "Okay. bit of a short trip to LA for three days, but fine." And he basically turns into Taken. it turns out the his sister is dead, and he just gets revenge on a, a hundred people kinda thing. So it was re-

Sidey: When I went to LA and we... I eventually got through immigration, that took fucking ages. And when we got in the cab and the guy, we were like, "Yeah, take us to fucking wherever the hotel was." I can't remember. And the guy's, "Oh, so how long are you guys here for?" I'm like, "A week." He's like, "Why? That's three days is like literally all you need."

Cris: Well, okay. Well, I don't know That, That's just the film. I I've never been to LA, so I don't know. But, but that's the film, and I h- honestly, I really, really enjoyed this. It's kinda, kinda action-y, and he's, he's like a cop, but he's... A- and there's obviously police involved, and, "Why are you here?" Or, "Are you police?" "Oh, no, no, I'm just here. I'm just

Sidey: What's it called?

Cris: It's fun. A Message From the King. From the king? Because his, his surname is something King, and he's from South Africa, which he, he's from-- a cop in Cape Town. Yeah. Which we've all heard about stories of Cape Town

Sidey: Cape Town, more like

Cris: how dangerous it can be. But my nom will be a film called The Talented Mr. Ripley. Where Dickie Greenleaf leaves a, lives a perpetual holiday.

Reegs: Yeah. At the expense of Jude Law's character, doesn't

Cris: Yeah. Yeah. So what is he called? Tom. Yeah ... sent to bring back Dickie to, to reality really. Yeah. So that kind of... It is a holiday- Yeah ... which this guy lives. So I thought that would be a nice, nice, way to nom, I

Dan: Nom it.

Reegs: I got a couple of honorable men- mentions. One is Alexander Payne's Sideways Paul Giamatti and Thomas Haden Church. Giamatti's a failed novelist and Thomas Haden Church looking for one last fling before he's getting married. Very funny. I have also got the White Lotus TV series. yeah. Seasons one, two and three. First set in Hawaii, the second in Sicily and the third in Thailand. All absolutely brilliant and must see TV. Mostly about how spending lots of money going on holidays will not make you feel happy and fulfilled, amongst other things. And what- I

Dan: disagree.

Cris: Yeah, I

Reegs: And my nomination is going to be Call Me By Your Name. We did it for the pod. It was Luca Guadagnino. The cannibal? Yes. Timothée Chalamet and Armie Hammer. He... Timothée Chalamet is spending a summer in Tuscany and discovering a little bit about his Jewish identity and his homosexuality. And he ends up coming in a we've all done. Yeah.

Cris: Happens quite frequently,

Sidey: happens quite frequently with- Yeah. but

Reegs: I really liked that movie. I thought it was great.

Sidey: Cool. Super Mario Sunshine. Okay. Mario goes on holiday to the Isle Delfino, and that all goes

Reegs: the plot of Super Mario

Sidey: Yeah, it goes completely Pete Tong. Little Miss Sunshine. They go on a kinda road trip holiday to get her to the beauty pageant, which also goes completely Pete Tong. I like

Dan: like that

Reegs: I like- And you got the word sunshine in there

Sidey: well. Yeah. National Lampoon's Vacation. Brilliant. Yeah. Everyone's favorite fucking total asshole, and I think complete racist. Chevy Chase. Chevy, Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase. Yeah, he's a total dick apparently, yeah. Yeah. Very nice. The cars are also good in that.

Reegs: film is brilliant, that first one, 1985, where they go to Wally World.

Sidey: Yeah. And also in between his movie and Kevin and Perry Go I was doing, Do you remember the dance that he does? That I was doing it on holiday 'cause they had the song come on. It's that sort of weird skipping dance- Yeah ... that he does. It's that sort of weird skipping dance. But my nom is gonna be, I think it's a Christmas

Reegs: Do you know, they say I'm a bit like Will?

Sidey: that? Who says that?

Reegs: you know that? Who says that? You. Why are you smirking, you cunt? Which one of them is

Cris: Which one of them is Will? The one with the shit hair?

Sidey: one with The

Dan: know, I, I, I know why you went

Cris: with the specs?

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: No.

Reegs: Okay, thanks.

Cris: an insult, no.

Sidey: To Will. It's an insult to Will. I never

Reegs: I know it's an insult. Go back to your shit hair. What were you... Well,

Dan: back to shit hair. What we-

Sidey: hair. What were you doing?

Cris: Well, no, b- now thinking about it, none of them has great hair really. That, that guy probably has the best hair if I'm... The rest of it is not that good. Strong hair. Strong hair. Strong hair. The, the rest of him is not that

Reegs: good. There you go. Strong

Dan: go. Really bad.

Sidey: Strong hair. Strong hair game.

Dan: strong recommendation. The rest of them

Sidey: but- Shut up. My nom I think is a... I think it's a Christmas special of Only Fools and Horses- Oh ... where they go to Miami- Oh ... and Del Boy gets mistaken for a guy who's, like, a mafia head of, head of crime boss. I think it has the scene when he gets stuck on the jet ski and just gets out,

Reegs: Oh, I was thinking of Rodney when they go on the holiday, and

Dan: That's

Sidey: Oh, I was thinking of Rodney when they go on the holiday. That's also amazing. Oh,

Dan: Or

Reegs: he has to- That's also amazing. Yeah. Oh, what's the, what's the- He has to go in the kids' club what's the kids' club

Sidey: the kids club called? He comes back and he's got his skateboard and it's so funny. Fucking said he's in a skateboard. "What went wrong? You're a winner."

Dan: goes, "I came second in a skateboard." "What went wrong? You were winning."

Sidey: That one, actually that one they, they win the lottery. Yeah. But they had to- They fuck it up. Yeah. Rodney is the one who's got the ticket, and they can't give it to an underage-

Reegs: That's right,

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Well, a- and the, the other one they've got the busman's holiday, when he, he goes out on the ... It's one of the early ones, you know, and they go out on the bus. Have you ... Remember that one? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so m- And The Miami one, so,

Sidey: Miami one, I think

Dan: so

Sidey: gets... There's, there's obviously two Del Boys. One's the mafia crime boss, and then there's Del Boy, and he, he actually ends up doing like the full Miami Vice thing with the suit. Yeah. He gets on the jet ski and gets stuck out to sea and all that stuff. Yeah. Fucking brilliant. Really, really

Dan: strong. Just a ma- ... I mean, they need to put all them out, out again. I know those characters you need to have invested in like we did when we were kids, and we watched, like, you know, episode after episode after episode to get to those Christmas specials when you would literally just cry laughing because maybe just seeing them on their own, you wouldn't

Sidey: event. You'd wait for it. You'd be like, you know, you'd have the series, then you'd be, "Wow, there's gonna be another one at Christmas. It's gonna be like a long episode." It'd be a long

Dan: a long ep- Because you were so invested in the character, they would literally ... You know, they'd make you cry, they'd make you laugh, all the rest of it. If you watch them just in a one-off, maybe they wouldn't Like, watch them with the kids. Like, "Mm," you know, it's

Reegs: 'cause they're shit though, isn't it?

Sidey: it but the rest of us- Yeah ... were totally still really into it.

Dan: amazing- Mm ... 'cause you need to invest into the, the characters. The writing was brilliant. S- yeah, good

Sidey: So we need one more

Dan: We need one more

Reegs: Yeah. Give us your holiday. Oh, we're synchronized

Sidey: We got synchronicity Yeah I said, I fucking hate that band. We're talking about the movie After Sun, which- you can watch this on iPlayer

Reegs: iPlayer, yeah, it's currently on.

Sidey: BBC iPlayer. Yeah, it's currently on Paul Mescal I

Dan: Mescal I do like an iPlayer movie. They normally pick very well

Reegs: Yeah. Well, spoiler alert, they did.

Dan: Hmm

Sidey: Well, we'll see about that.

Reegs: This is Charlotte Wells's feature debut

Sidey: My sister-in-law is called Charlotte

Cris: Yeah

Reegs: where it's called Charlotte Wells ... there you go.

Dan: didn't... her

Sidey: I'll have to ask her ... do it.

Dan: Okay. Right. Okay.

Reegs: Okay It's a sort of autobiography or an emotional autobiography as she describes it. And her father, for the record did not take his own life. But she was inspired to write this film

Sidey: Is that definitively what, like, the real spoiler what happens

Reegs: I would say it's my interpretation of

Sidey: Me too, but it's not explicit. it's not explicit. It's not explicit, but there's lots of clues and breadcrumbs- Yeah ... and very-

Dan: But you don't see that happening- No ... at any any part of the film. It is just kind of fade to black kind of stuff. the room.

Sidey: Walks out the room,

Reegs: Yeah. So it, structurally it's sort of, pretty simple and there aren't really chapters or much of a plot really as a, as a through line

Sidey: like a holiday film.

Reegs: It's like a holiday film. It is, yeah. It opens with,

Dan: with flashbacks

Reegs: Well it's, it's actually, it's, it's, it's actually her as an adult, Sophie as an adult watching camcorder footage of the f- holiday that she took when she was 11 with her father, Callum- Yeah To Turkey. And in the film that we see she asks her father, it's his birthday in a couple of days, what does he think he'll be doing when he's 31? And he's doing his Tai Chi- Yeah ... and all that sort of stuff. And he tells her to turn the camera off and the footage freezes, and then we briefly cut to a rave with- it will continually flash back to this rave of the adult Sophie standing in a rave at first looking across the dance floor at someone who we don't know. And then after that it's, An impression of a holiday, really. So they arrive they get on a tour bus, don't they?

Sidey: Yeah. It's one of those holidays where you've got a rep, you know, at the front of the bus.

Reegs: talking about Torremolinos- And they're rolling their eyes ... and l- they're laughing at her. And it's... You know, the shots are very much from a child's perspective as she looks out of the bus windows- Yeah ... at the sort of signs going past and, and all of that stuff. And he... They go to the ho- hotel to check in. He's instantly a bit sort of embarrassed because the room doesn't have two beds like he was promised. It only has a small single. And she's knackered, so the girl goes to bed. He sleeps on the floor next to her. But we see, like, in this shot, a bit of an establishing of the sort of main themes, which is how much he really loves her.

Sidey: Yeah. At first I was like, "Oh, is he gonna do something like really erratic like going..." No, no. He just tucks

Reegs: he really tucks her in. You know, genuine warmth, and we've seen that in their relationship, and then he goes out on the balcony to smoke because he hides that from her. It's the first of many hides. So, And we only hear her breathing in the dark, and we can see him, like, in the background smoking. Yeah. So after that

Dan: doesn't wanna smoke in front of her. Yeah. I, I, I take it like that he, he knows smoking's bad. He doesn't wanna set a bad example. Yeah. So he, he hides that

Reegs: he's very young. Remember, this guy is 31, and he's got an 11-year-old daughter, so we can already draw a lot of inferences- 31. No he likes a cigarette ... like he's

Sidey: there's no wife. There's no

Reegs: hasn't... There's no wife around. He hasn't... and they're amicably split up because we all hear from-

Sidey: a call, don't they?

Reegs: They have a call, don't they? They have a call, yeah. So yeah, now it's just like a series of vignettes. Sophie, the girl meets a guy called Michael in a, in a arcade.

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. I think it's pronounced

Reegs: Yes, I think you're right. She befriends or sort of attaches herself to a group of teenagers. There's, there's some younger kids there, and Callum's like, "Oh, why don't you go and play with them?" And she's like, "Why don't you go and talk to the dad?" Like they're just kids. They're rubbish. But she sees this group of sort of beer-drinking, kissing teenagers, and it's sort of part of her... She's starting to grow up and just- Yeah ... start to understand the world. That's, you know, pretty clear, too. And they go, they go and play pool, don't they? And the teenagers come across. That's when they really meet them for the first time, and they think Callum is her brother because he's so young-looking. Yeah. And he's like, "No, I'm her dad." And then she chooses to spend her time not with him but with as well, which

Sidey: One of the teenagers gets some drinks and she's got the yellow wristband. It's one of the first moments we realize he, he hasn't got much cash. Like, you know- Mm-hmm ... they're there on an all-inclusive and then, and him and his daughter are not, s- there's a few bits now where they sort of show you that he, he, he's struggling,

Reegs: guess Yeah. Well, there's... They, they go scuba diving and it's not clear at first, but Sophie drops the mask The mask,

Sidey: mask,

Reegs: yeah. And Calum is a bit off with her presumably because it was very expensive Yeah And she's sort of emotion- she actually has to be emotion- she's like the adult really to sort of talk him round and to get him to come out of his shell really that he's gone into. And And that's also when you sort of get hints at his depression, whereas he's talking to the guy on the boat and the guy's explaining his life and he's just had a young daughter, he's nearly in his 40s now Yeah And he's like, "I'll never 40." his

Sidey: It,

Dan: 40s now and everything else. Oh. And he's like, "I'll never get to 40." And it, it, it is, you know, it's not a, a happy kind of film i-in the, in the sense that these themes like coming through, like the, the mask that's dropped and, and understanding that they're on a poorer kind of level of, of holiday.

Reegs: There's didn't initially... That didn't really... It just sort of showed that there was a difference between she didn't quite fit in with these ones. She's a little bit younger and also though that. But I never went on an all-inclusive holiday.

Sidey: It never bothered me. Do you know what I It never bothered me. Do you know what I mean?

Dan: No. No, no, no. I mean, i-i-it's a- and Think just becoming aware of it- Yeah ... that there are differences because they sneak into the nice place where these kids are. They're not supposed to actually be there. Their place is That's all part of the adventure when you're a little kid as well. But from the dad's point of view, you know,

Sidey: he- He's feeling like, feeling like- He's embarrassed. I mean, they, they make light of it- Yeah ... but y- 'cause one night they, they do a runner at dinner and that sort of thing. But The wimpy run

Reegs: run ... he's embarrassed. Yeah, the wimpy run. And later he will go shopping for what is clearly a very expensive rug that he can't... You know, when he's told the price, he baulks at it and he doesn't Yeah But he'll later go back for

Sidey: it But he wants- Did you not think, "How the fuck's he getting that home?"

Dan: got to get that home ... but yeah, but he, he, he kind of wants to leave something for her maybe or, you know, like, something that's got some value. You know, He- he,

Reegs: and also as we flash forward to Sophie in the future watching these videos, we'll see that rug on the floor it came So really the movie is about her trying to piece together what happened on this holiday as she sits and watches video footage. And, and the movie is very, like, clear about showing you that this is a lot taken from the child's

Sidey: yeah,

Reegs: that some things are maybe not fully understood or some things that you're seeing maybe didn't happen exactly the way that they are because it's a child telling

Dan: But they, they are those recollections of, of a kid that kind of shape their- ideas of, of family. I mean, I, I just think back on my family. holidays and you know, you don't know any better. You know, we went on lots of holidays. We were very, very lucky to, to go on holidays, but when we went on them, we were looking for... We used to get a a car from the airport. Mm. And we would go to maybe four or five different hotels looking for the best discount for the, for the hotel 'cause my dad would, you know, he was taking four of us- Yeah ... away to Brazil or somewhere, like, you know, in the 19, early '90s or late '80s. And he w- he worked for the airline, so we'd go into And it was a game to us, like, you know, he'd go, "What are we getting?" He'd go, he'd go, "Eight..." He, he would say, "It's it's 20% off." And we'd go, "Has it got a pool?" And he'd go, "Yeah." And he'd go, "But not enough." So we'd go off to the next place, like, you know. And he'd go, "It's 25% off." "Has it got a pool?" And he'd go, "Yeah, but it's not enough." Like, you know. So we'd, we'd end up going and he'd go, "Has it got a pool?" And he'd go, "Yeah." And he'd go, "And it's 60% off. We're in." You know, and then we'd all, we'd all pile in there. But those, those kind of situatio- I mean, we didn't think anything else of

Sidey: away

Dan: it at the time, like, you know- You

Sidey: "Has it got a pool?" didn't know any better, right ... that was just the,

Cris: don't know anything better, right? So that's, that's your, that's your reality. our,

Dan: our reality and things, and we'd be, you know, staying at some lovely hotels with, with kind of people that didn't need that discount. Mm. You know? Or we would be in, in places that we couldn't get the discount, so we were in, like, lesser hotels and it had no pool, and we were like, "What are we doing here?" But yeah, it's just from that child's point of view, it wa- it was interesting to me

Sidey: she's... In the film doesn't pick up on that- side of it. It's only th- the older Sophie looking back- Yeah ... figuring it all out.

Reegs: Well, she is beginning to understand, though, because there are a few things that she says. We'll come onto 'em. But we next, the next scene is, is basically a repeat of the opening scene. But s- from the perspective of when it was actually recorded. So we see that camcorder footage, and he tells her to put it down, and then the rest of the scene is almost done with his face just reflected in the TV screen- Yeah ...

Sidey: with the red lights on.

Reegs: shot ... There's, like, some Tai Chi books and some mindfulness stuff. So we can see, and we've seen him practicing Tai Chi in the morning. She calls it his ninja moves. So he's obviously reading self-help. He's doing Tai Chi to, try and fix his mental health. And he'll talk ab- a little bit about his own childhood. He'll s- she'll say to him, "What did you get on your 11th birthday?" It's just been hers. And he says, "Oh, well, m- no one really remembered, and then when my mum- It's so grim It's terrible. "When my mum remembered, she sent, she shouted and hit my dad and sent him to the toy shop to go and get me something. I got a phone."

Sidey: phone. Yeah.

Reegs: So obviously he- he's seeking to connect with people. And after that what else have we got? Oh, he's got a plaster cast that he's been wearing on his- Does He jump, he d- well, he dives in. He's, they take a photo underwater. I'm like, "Well, that's not gonna work with a cast." But then the next sequence is him trying to cut it off, and again, you'll get that thing because it's a split screen. The girl on the left side talking about the book that she's reading, and on the right side, the dad in the bathroom cutting the cast off, and he cuts his arm quite badly, and it bleeds everywhere. But he doesn't tell her, so again, hiding stuff from her- Yeah ... as it's going on.

Dan: All done from a place of caring and, and love. Doesn't wanna worry her and doesn't wanna- you know, she's 11.

Reegs: Where he, he was struggling with his own demons, I think, a lot of the time. And that's when she talks to him later about she likes to look up at the sun when he's not around and think, you

Sidey: know- Aren't we lucky to

Reegs: we lucky to share the same sky sort of thing, which will make it all the more poignant later when they don't. And then she talks afterwards. They've had this great day, but she comes back to the hotel, and you can see how worried Callum's face is as she talks about what a great day it was, but still feeling tired. Like you're sinking, she says, and basically listening to a 11-year-old describe the early symptoms of depression, basically, and he's worried that he's passed that onto So, that's where he spits on the mirror. It, it wasn't clear to me whether it was like a revulsion, self-revolting type thing or not. But anyway, they go on to sing karaoke. Losing My Religion she sets them up for, which they've apparently done on every holiday. But Callum is sort of a bit mired in his depression and doesn't join her, and she sings really tunelessly

Sidey: Yeah, it goes on and I'm like, "Make it stop."

Reegs: "I'm gonna make a cup of tea." But the lyrics are also quite relevant to what's going on as well, so, that's... It's really cruel really, this scene.

Dan: Have you ever done karaoke on holiday and been as

Sidey: No. no?

Dan: I, I did, I did-

Sidey: you sing?

Dan: "Ticket to Ride," from The, The Beatles. Yeah. And yeah. It was... I, I got asked to sing again and

Sidey: To right the wrongs of the first

Dan: no, like, somebody actually enjoyed it and- Wow ... and asked me to sing again. This, this old lady, and actually it was her son who was- John's son ... told by the mother to come and ask me to sing again. And then I did another Beatles song. I can't remember what it was, but it was fucking awful, and they never made me do it again. Like, as bad as that one, like tuneless, just really, really bad. Like, I'd had too much to drink by that stage and it had gone. But I'll forever remember that, that cringey moment.

Reegs: the end of the Losing My Religion thing, he offers her singing lessons, and she says, "Well, don't offer things that you can't afford to pay for." "Stop doing that," she says. And they both are really... Like, he's really wounded by that, and they actually go their own separate ways. He goes off back to by... He picks up a fag off the floor. He's smoking cigarettes from the floor, and then he walks off into the sea, which, I

Sidey: a Reginald Perrin. And in that scene in

Reegs: film, you know, is shorthand for somebody who's gonna kill themselves really, isn't it? Right. While she goes off and has her own

Sidey: it then because he the camera lingers for ages and he doesn't come back.

Reegs: Yeah. It doesn't. No, I know. It's very suggestive. Yeah. And then she goes off to do her own thing, which is mostly she's seen these teenagers kissing, and she's heard one of them has given the other one a hand job, and she's been very interested in this. So she goes and meets Fat Michael from the arcade and goes and has her first kiss with him. Yeah. But we've already seen in the future that she's got a baby and is in a same-sex relationship. And after she has her first kiss, she does actually spy the two teenage boys kissing each other- Yeah ... which I think is probably just opening her eyes to the fact of what's- Oh, right. That's a thing that you can do as well. Eventually she goes back to the room really late. She can't get in, so she goes and sleeps downstairs in the hotel lobby until the night porter comes along to let her in the, the room. And when she goes in, Calum's asleep, completely bollock naked on the bed. And in a sort of echo of the first scene of the film, she puts the blanket over him, Mm. So now then towards the, right towards the end of the trip, it's nearly his birthday. They, they apologize after the karaoke disaster, and they sort of make up, and they go to this mud pit place, and then some kind of, like, amphitheater or something. And she gets the other guests that are there to s- sing for "He's a jolly good fellow" to him as he's stood at the top. And it's just pure pain on his face, like he does, just doesn't wanna hear it. You know, there's no positive emotions there. And then the next shot of just him crying on his bed,

Sidey: He's like properly

Reegs: Yeah. Absolutely sobbing. Yeah. Because he does not believe he is a jolly good fellow, I

Sidey: He's got postcards to,

Reegs: Yeah ...

Sidey: saying,

Reegs: it says, "I love you very much."

Sidey: forget that

Reegs: Yeah. So,

Dan: not big on

Reegs: last bit is the final... No, no laughs at all. Final night it's another dance night. Yeah, they're dancing to Under Pressure by Queen, which was actually a placeholder for the music until they realized that it, like- Worked ... worked perfectly. And it, then this scene of them dancing at the, at the end of the holiday is sort of cut against the scenes of her in the future at the rave, and it's, it been made clear what she's been doing is trying to get to her father that she's seen across the dance floor. Not literally this but she's trying to get through the crowded dance floor to see her father that you can only ever see in strobe lights. I think it's sort of saying that she only ever got an impression of him, 'cause he died when she was so lu- young. And then they, they get offered a photo, and he pays for it straight away, which is the only time that he does do that, which shows you again what his mental state might be and got no fucks left to give. And then the last bit is them going off to the airport and she kind of waves goodbye to him at the departure gate. She's going back off to meet Mom. She's back to school on Tuesday, and he'll turn around slowly and walk down the corridor, and he'll open the departure gate door, and inside the door is the rave. But you only see it very briefly, after that

Dan: departures

Reegs: So that is the ending. It's all a bit ambiguous really, although I think it's all there on

Sidey: it's all there on the surface. It's ambiguous, but it's pretty- still pretty clear- Yeah ... that he had killed himself.

Reegs: Mm. Maybe doing something. Yeah. So, Make a law ... lots and lots of laws. Yeah. Obviously, suicide is the biggest killer of men under 50 in the world. It's the, you know, heart disease after that, but suicide. So s- seeing suicide depicted on film, male suicide, and dealing with it is clearly a serious issue, especially the impact that it has on the people that are left behind.

Sidey: Mm. 'Cause you see her with the camcorder plugged in and watching it on the telly,

Reegs: Yeah ...

Sidey: fucking hell. It's so grim. It reminded me of... Do you remember there was an old drink driving advert? You know, they used to do the really grim fucking- Yeah ... drink driving advert at Christmas, and it was a mum with a camcorder watching a video of her daughter who'd been killed in a... And it was like, "Thank you, Mummy." And she was just winding it back and kept watching her daughter say thank you. And I was like, fucking hell. You know? Yeah. It's fucking about as bleak as it gets.

Dan: gets. It, yeah, the, these they are important films, you know, and I

Reegs: this one's brilliantly made as well. Her, the kid, is so... And Paul Mescal we already know is brilliant because Hollywood's fallen in love with him. But the kid is fucking amazing in it. Yeah. Absolutely, like, one of those beyond their age type- Mm performances. And then the cinematography is really good. It's very dreamlike, and it leads you into a lot of stuff. It lets you fill in the gaps yourself. It doesn't tell you things. It might just show you things and let you work stuff out. So it rewards an intense viewing, and like I say, brilliantly acted and on a very serious subject. And if you're the father of a young daughter, like three of us are here, and if you've ever suffered with depression, you will find yourself really connecting, I think, with the subject matter.

Dan: I, I must admit, I found it kinda hard to watch in, in the kind of sense that it's... Even talking about it actually, you know, it ju- it, it just evokes a lot, lots of kind of memories and lots of thoughts and things that that I don't really wanna go into. You know? It, it- they are so, It, it was brilliant, you know, hi- his acting and everything and, and the, the stories. Also my, you know, my own holidays and, you know, the... It's one of those films that just pulls at emotions, you know? And that's what films should do. They should pull at your emotions, and they should make you think different things, and they should make you think about memories that

Reegs: and the through line's complicated in this one, right? Yeah. Because obviously you've got a lot of empathy for a guy who's that distressed and who's missed out on so much of his life at such a young age. Yeah. But also you're like, that's really s- s- you know, selfish, and look what you've done to the people in your

Sidey: That is the sort of overarching emotion of people who have suffered that, is they get fucking annoyed that someone's done

Reegs: Yeah. I think it's possible to hold both those ideas that, you know, you could really feel for Callum who's b- you

Sidey: know- Yeah

Reegs: portrayed very realistically and authentically, and also think,

Sidey: what a- Why have you done that to me?

Reegs: awful thing you've done."

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: a bad decision. Yeah, Because it is, as you say, the, the people that are left behind that, that really need to pick up the pieces. But it's, Yeah, it was, wasn't full of laughs. And I struggled to watch this the whole way through in one sitting. I said to you, like I, I... It was on, it was on, like it, it played through in one sitting, but I got up and made myself a cup of tea, and then would come back in, and I would be listening to it, and I'd look through. I think probably because of the, the content as much as anything else was g- I found quite difficult It's

Reegs: pretty traumatic ... slog through.

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: it- For sure ... You know, it it was... It is like that. Not because there was a lack of quality in the film or the acting or anything. So it... You have to be in the right frame of mind, I think, to watch these kind of movies.

Dan: You need to be able to be in a, in a place where you think, "Right. Okay, that's it." Because as I say, the, the, the storyline the, the, the actors in it superb, faultless. But for me, it was just hard viewing because it was, you know... I was looking for something a little more... You gave me Annabelle in the week for the mid- Abigail Abigail,

Reegs: Yeah, I gave you some lols. You,

Dan: you gave me lols. But I was already anxious, like, you know, because Abigail seems to be like a horror film, and then this one was not full of laughs either. It's way more

Reegs: more disturbing to me.

Dan: yeah. Yeah. It was, yeah. Yeah, this, this, this made you, you think a lot more than Abigail.

Sidey: Dig it? I mean, I loved it. Yeah, but I think I've been quite clear about that. But what about you? Do you get

Reegs: Oh, me, I loved it. Yeah, but I think I've been quite clear about that. But what about you? Do you get on with it or?

Sidey: Yeah, no, it's, like, really well made. Like, for a directorial debut, the performances are really good. It's just not, it's not a fun watch, is it? No. But it's not, that it's not obviously not that kind of movie. You kind of wanna stick on like He-Man or something afterwards to like take the edge off. Yeah. 'Cause it's like powerful,

Dan: Yeah. It's powerful. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is powerful. Yeah. That's right, yeah. I think that's

Sidey: missus straight away like checked, she's like, "I'm not watching this." Like fucking- Yeah ... like, kid trauma. 'Cause you think, she didn't know whether it was gonna be... 'Cause at the, the very first bit when he's complaining about the room, I was like, "Oh, no, is he gonna be like a dickhead dad?" And straight away you're like, "No, he's not." He's not, is he? But he d- he's not, you don't know going in, like- No ... how it's gonna play out. 'Cause the, the tagline is like, you know, the girl watching her stuff back and- Mm ... and re-figuring out, you know, and you're like, "Oh God,

Dan: I'll probably watch this again, you

Sidey: this dick, you know? ...again, you know? I probably

Dan: and know- and knowing what it, it ends up like, you know, that those elements are taken out of it. Because again, like you, I, I wasn't sure. But you knew something was gonna happen. You knew- There's a bit early ... there was an edge on it

Sidey: than like you get the rave bit of like her trying to see him and trying to get to him. But they don't... When she's, she's quite stoic when she's watching. They don't give away like what, is she annoyed, you know, fucking annoyed, she's gutted that he's gone, or is she annoyed that he's gone?

Reegs: I think she's trying to work all that out, right?

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: Like- That's literally, like- It's all of it ... what she's trying to do. She's-- Yeah. It's all of those things. Exactly. And she's, and she's trying to figure it out because she's got no relation. She hasn't seen her father for 15, 20 years.

Sidey: Do you think you'd check it out, Chris?

Reegs: No, it's not for you Chris. This one has, you know, genuine human

Sidey: though

Reegs: in it. It's

Cris: I, I told you, I put it on. I, I went for a wee, went back, fell asleep, woke up, film was done. So I, I couldn't tell you what happened. And by the sounds of all this, I have to say though, I watched The Hamnet a few months ago and,

Sidey: sounds Pardon? That sounds

Cris: hard going as well. Pardon? That sounds like hard going as well. That was hard going. But do you know what? I was glued to the telly. He was really... It's the same actor, right?

Reegs: Paul Mescal. Paul Mescal. Yeah.

Cris: He was really good.

Reegs: He's brilliant in this.

Cris: Reilly, the Reilly, the lady that was in The Hamnet as

Sidey: won the Oscar, didn't she? I dunno. I, I- Yeah, she

Cris: I have no idea. She was really good. So now when you said like, "Oh, Holly was falling in love with him," I've seen him in Gladiator, the... And I was a bit like,

Sidey: Yeah,

Cris: Because obviously I loved the first one. Yeah. And you're never gonna get a g- as good as that, but he is a great actor. Yeah. But from, from, from what I've seen, even in the Gladiator, he's still a good actor. It's just that-

Sidey: some bad clobber in this ... you Yeah ...obviously

Cris: the first one. But then just by hearing all this and the way you say

Sidey: it- He's good. He's really

Cris: It's really good ... I'm not gonna watch it because if you're gonna tell me that Blake kids, he's go- the, the, the, the

Dan: no It's It's got, it's got real depth to it though, the movie.

Cris: And plus because generally I'll try to watch stuff with Kira because, you know, the telly's there. You know, even if she's on her laptop doing things or whatever, she's gonna be in the room.

Sidey: Yeah. Anyone and anyone who's got, like, a difficult or sort of weird, complicated relationship with their parents probably would, like, freak out watching yeah, strong recommend Very huge recommend, huge

Dan: Huge. Yeah, go for it. Why not? Strong

Cris: Who is next? Is it you, I think?

Sidey: I have got noms ready if you want them. I'm pretty

Cris: sure it's you because it was me with the

Dan: looking at you and you're looking at me it

Cris: me ... it was me, with the Apex and and all that. Then

Sidey: Oh, is it-

Cris: then it was Dan because it was

Reegs: you. And then it was Maggie Reid. What have you got? It

Dan: should've been me. I went out of order.

Reegs: well out of

Cris: So it's now you,

Dan: you were on holiday. Yeah. Holiday.

Sidey: Do you want them? Yeah. Top five... I don't know if you've done this before. Top five motorcycles.

Reegs: How dare he. Do you want them? Yeah. Top five, I don't know if you done this before, top five motorcycles. I don't think we have, no. Yeah.

Dan: Oh, okay. Already got an idea.

Sidey: And then mid-weeker is Akira.

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: And the main feature, although slightly years don't really work, but who cares? Is The Motorcycle Diaries.

Reegs: Okay. All right. Che Guevara.

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: I'm in.

Dan: Yeah. I'm in. Okay. Right, I'm, I'm in. Motorcycle

Reegs: Week. Would... join us

Sidey: 'Cause there is the strong, the strong, like- And also

Cris: time. That's Ernesto Gu- Garcia

Sidey: Yes, it is. Yeah, when you were talking about it, I was like, "I'm gonna nominate him."

Cris: And it's Ernesto Guevara

Sidey: motorcycle... I- I've never seen Akira, but there's strong motorcycle vibes in Akira.

Reegs: Yeah, yeah. fantastic

Sidey: thing.

Cris: never seen Akira either, but I've seen The Motorcycle Diaries, and it's Ernesto Guevara has to

Dan: I, I thought you were gonna talk about the the movie that you mentioned earlier. The bear suit. Not that one, though. Hereditary. Yeah. but the, the o- Oh,

Sidey: Oh, yeah. Right, okay. N- I've got... I, I...

Dan: yeah. That's why I was kind of looking at you, sort of just gripping- ... gripping onto the side of the

Sidey: sides. Already curling. No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not

Dan: white knuckles

Sidey: not ready yet. But all that remains is to say, "Sardis signing out."

Reegs: Reegs has left the building.

Cris: La rivedere.

Dan: Dan's gone