Midweek Mention... Blue Steel

Blue Steel

Sidey: Blue Steel Yeah.

Dan: Great title.

Sidey: Great title. It, it

Dan: kind of memories of- Steel ... steel and blueness. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: It's 1990.

Reegs: It's Catherine Bigelow.

Sidey: Juice's s- sister. Yeah. Did you see who did the music? Yes. Yeah, Brad Friedel. Brad Friedel. It wasn't the former- He had

Reegs: Fiedel. It wa- it wasn't the former-

Sidey: to drop the R ... Tottenham goalkeeper,

Reegs: Friedel, it was

Cris: he had hair.

Yeah.

Reegs: He did the music for Terminator and Terminator 2, so that's

Sidey: pretty- Strong. There was a couple of bits where I thought it sounded a bit Terminator-y. It had that sort of- I guess- ... industrial sort of bang.

Dan: I guess it's safe hands with him, though, isn't it?

Reegs: Yeah. Very much so.

Sidey: I-

Reegs: Oliver Stone producing as well. Yeah. Not

Sidey: I had not seen this before. I-

Dan: I had. I had. Mm. Back, back, back in the day when Jamie Lee was a big thing.

Reegs: Yes. I had also seen this back in the day, and remembered it as a gripping thriller. It's funny how memory can be memory can be, let's say.

Dan: when you've, when you've got sort of this as your benchmark then other films that have come after have gotta measure up or, or pay the price.

Sidey: Does it start with her entering a building?

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: Pretty much ... it's,

Dan: quite cagey, isn't it? You... She's going down a hallway. Yeah. It's a, you know, typical New York apartment block kinda thing.

Very thin, narrow hallways. She opens the door, there's a, a man holding a woman, and she's gotta draw her rifle, which is already drawn, to be fair, and she's just readi- Is it? Pistol. It's right, it's a pistol, not a rifle. Yeah. Not a massive gun man myself. You wouldn't know it, would you?

Sidey: Visual jokes.

Cris: Showing, you know,

Dan: showing the guns.

Cris: a

Reegs: Police Special,

Dan: a .38 Special, actually. It was a, it was a .44, .38, I'm not sure. .38.

Cris: not sure. It's a .38.

Dan: And she shoots him,

Sidey: and then-

Dan: The woman that he's holding, the hostage, actually shoots her

Sidey: It's a trap.

Reegs: up the gun and shoots her, yeah. But thankfully,

Dan: this is just a training exercise It

Reegs: exercise. It seems like it was a call to a domestic that's gone horribly wrong, but actually it was just a training exercise.

She gets called out by her superiors for jumping the gun, making too many assumptions, and being a bit hot-headed and impetuous.

Dan: Yeah. Re-

Sidey: But she does make it through, 'cause we see her getting dolled up in her best dress outfit. And the guy- And mate's

Dan: "I can't believe you're gonna be a fucking cop."

Yeah.

Sidey: And which is thrilling for her dad. She's really, he's really impressed. Yeah.

Cris: He's super keen, yeah.

Reegs: we don't see that until after the ceremony, do we? She goes back her friend is there with her family. Yeah. And she goes back home to listen to her answering machine messages, and it's mom and dad saying, "Oh, sorry we couldn't get the

Dan: Yeah. It

Sidey: just

Cris: mom. It's not the,

Dan: So well,

Reegs: you already get the feeling

Sidey: the sarcasm

Dan: alert is going high there because Dad really doesn't approve of his daughter becoming a cop.

Sidey: No.

Reegs: cop. No. In fact, nobody does. She'll meet various people throughout the movie that she has to hide or joke about her motivations for being a cop

Dan: sort of the New York cop in late 80s, early

Sidey: '90s,

Dan: 90s has probably got a lot of corruption hanging over them still, the connotations of not quite that clean police force

Sidey: yeah. Yeah, I mean, you probably... This is 1990s, just before the LA riots. Mm-hmm. Isn't it? So- Yeah ... there's obviously an undercurrent of people not digging the police that much. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Reegs: Very much so.

Sidey: we didn't say, but there is a brief, a pause for the credits. Yes. The title sequence super, super fetishizes- Yes

a pistol. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Like- And the bullets just going in ... you can just imagine the American audience just spaffing all over this. Yeah. I mean, it's so- Yeah.

Reegs: you called that out.

I had the same

Dan: Yeah, as soon as she called out I had the same thing

the, the, there's, there's a, there's a slow kind of reveal of the pistol

Sidey: goes on for about five minutes, and it's just

Dan: and even the bullets going into the-

Sidey: Phallic almost, yeah ... the holes.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Well, and the gun will become all tied up in the

Dan: as well. And

Reegs: well. So anyway, she's on the beat pretty much her first day with her partner

Sidey: vibe with her partner.

Cris: Yeah,

Reegs: vibe. Why did you wanna become a police officer? She sa- she makes a joke "Oh, I just wanted to shoot people," and he laughs.

Sidey: And he laughs. Get your wish in about-

Dan: what's her name? Is it, Megan Turner ... Megan Turner. Yeah. He goes, "You're okay, Turner.

You're okay." And,

Reegs: stop to get coffees. He goes off for a shit and whilst that happens, she's sort of scanning

Sidey: at the- Mm

Reegs: supermarket across the road and realizes, oh, there's a robbery going on.

Cris: Tom Sizemore. Yeah. It's Tom Sizemore. Yeah.

Dan: I mean, his acting career wasn't what it was then, but we didn't think he'd gone to the extent that he had to rob convenience stores.

Yeah. But there he was. He's good in this as well.

Reegs: He's good in this as well. He is, yeah. But he's not in it for very long, as she sneaks in through the back

Sidey: she knocked her coffee over.

Reegs: Not before she ... Yes, she knocked her coffee over, and then in quite a counterpoint to what she'd done in the training thing, where she'd bla- you know, ran down that corridor pointing her gun, she's, like, quite timid as she comes in through the underground

Sidey: Well, this, this- For real now ... it's, it's real this time though.

Yeah. And

Reegs: And so she sneaks up the stairs and in through the back door, and she's got the drop on him, and he's definitely quite, like ... He looks like he's probably on drugs and- I think he's

Cris: be

Sidey: to be on PCP or something. Yeah. You know, pretty charged. He's holding

Cris: He's

Dan: up a cashier. There's an old lady on the floor, and there's kind of a, a younger bearded guy who we'll meet later and we'll know later from, from different films as well. He's kind of dropped to the floor as well, and it comes to the point where he turns the gun on her, and she fires first.

But she doesn't let him just

Sidey: calls him out She,

Reegs: tells him to drop it.

Sidey: Yeah, she

Dan: gives all the, all the chance and everything, but

she,

she fires like the full round into him,

Reegs: Three rounds she does. Yeah. And she, she's in ... She's definitely, like, justified in shooting him because he's turning the weapon on her when she does.

Sidey: Yeah

Dan: Two, two or three times

Sidey: And Slow Mo- Four times ... I think he goes out through the window- Yeah ... but his gun goes up in the air. Yeah. I thought it had gone off when it hit the floor, but no, that was just another round that she shot.

And we see bearded matey sort of stare at the gun. Yeah.

Dan: So his name is Da- David Silva? John Silva? Ron Silva. Ron Silva. Yeah. Right, yeah. John

Reegs: Silver? Ron Silver- Ron Silver ... is the actor. Right, right. Time Cop is where you might have seen him. So, well,

Dan: I actually first thought he's the guy who tried to make a deal with Max Gruber, isn't

Sidey: he? He looks like that guy- No

but he's not as

Reegs: him. No. He- Ellis is from Die

Dan: he's not quite as cool.

But

Sidey: "Hey, Hans."

Dan: like that guy. Yeah. Mike Rice.

Sidey: wanker.

Dan: but yeah, he, he's been in a, a few-

Sidey: You just recognize his face, I think, yeah ... a few things. But he he likes the look of this piece.

Reegs: It lands right by his hand, like literally

Sidey: like,

Reegs: by him, and you can see him instantly just like

'Cause he's on the floor scared like everybody else is, but also this gun's right there

Sidey: be less scared- Yeah ... if I had a gun. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: Well,

that's it, so he picks it up, and you gotta think as well, this is pre-CCTV days, so that wouldn't be usual in convenience

Sidey: thinking about that

Dan: Well,

right now, you know, that would be found, wouldn't it? You know, if a, a gun was on the floor.

Everything's being filmed everywhere 24 hours a day

Sidey: didn't really get this bit, so they never, they- They don't, you know, recover

Reegs: the gun- He pockets the gun ... and he sc- he

Sidey: He pockets the gun. Yeah

Reegs: So they don't secure the scene properly, do they?

And then that, I mean- Never really- ... without that, there's no evidence. There's ... The witness is unreliable. She says it could've been a knife when the question's put to her. So-

Dan: the old lady. The cashier's shit himself so much he can't even say if it was a gun or not. Like, which was ridiculous really. I think that's a big hole in the film, to be honest, because if somebody's got a gun in your face and you're handing over money, it's

Sidey: pretty obviously,

Dan: because somebody's got a gun in your face. But he can't conclusively say, and they haven't found a gun on the scene. Yeah. And so the que- line of questioning has gone that route. Are you sure it's a gun? Are you sure it's a gun? 'Cause we didn't see a gun. And maybe then he started to

Cris: questioning. And it's also the question of excessive force, right?

Because there was three bullets rather than you shot him once. Yeah. It was, you just heard bang, bang, bang. Ex-exactly. It's almost like execution rather than-

Dan: and

Reegs: And that's all revealed by Nick Mann which I wondered if it was a joke.

You know, a detective called Nick Mann. But yeah. That's Clancy Brown in this, isn't it? Yeah. We get to see a great shot of his ass at the towards the

Dan: Yeah, strong hair game. He's just

Sidey: a, like a real asshole to her, sort of.

Yeah.

Reegs: he is a bit like, "How long have you been on the job?" She's like, "24 hours."

Right. "Right,

Dan: you won't make 36.

Reegs: 36," he says. And it's the start of, like, the repeated theme of nobody believing this woman, basically. She'll over and over tell her story and not be believed by her male comrades-

Sidey: and

Dan: Jamie Lee is looking a little bit like the David Bowie character at this stage, isn't she? The, what, what's that stage he goes through in the '80s where she's kind of got that-

Sidey: Yeah, kind of

Dan: Young Americans, like the Aladdin Sane almost like

Reegs: Sane

Sidey: Aladdin Sane almost like

Dan: kind of- True Lies.

Yeah. It True Lies. So, but her hair is very short cropped and everything, isn't it? And for the, for the police, she's still a very attractive woman. But she's, she's definitely you're, you're- Yeah ... you're looking-

Sidey: But well, she's suspended basically- She is ... after this. She's suspended straight away and taken- she's made to give in her badge.

Yeah. Yeah. And

Cris: And the gun. Yeah. She's no longer on

Sidey: and her piece. Yeah. She's not even on the job, and you think, "Fucking hell, it's not going well." And then we're gonna see,

Reegs: ron Silver. Eugene Hunt is the character ... Eugene

Sidey: get super into his gun. Yeah.

Reegs: It's like you said, we fetishize the barrel of the, the gun as we see in the intro, and he's g- like compelled to take it at the scene of the crime, and then you can see him, like it's just sort of awoken something

Sidey: in him.

Yeah, he loses it almost immediately.

Reegs: He's like ... Immediately. He's like pointing the gun in the mirror and sort of-

Sidey: We see a bullet. He's, he's scraping-

Reegs: Yeah, and he scrapes her as w-

Sidey: don't know straight away, but he's scraping something on the bullet. Yeah. And then he goes out and I think finds it's a businessman.

Yeah.

Cris: trips, he falls over, and then he just shoots the guy. Shoots

Sidey: goes like, "Yeah, why don't I just fucking execute this guy?" And it-

Reegs: 'cause he sees the gun. I suppose it's, it's still in a baffling America where people are still scared of guns and not everyone has one.

Sidey: Yeah. So

Dan: Well, in New York it's, it's kind of, you

know, it's not the Wild West and they've got- Yeah ... different rules in different states

Sidey: drawn out 'cause the guy's shitting himself. He realizes he's

Dan: goes, "You okay, buddy?" And then he sees the gun and he goes, "What, what are you doing?" It takes him a minute, and then he just for

Sidey: blows him away. Yeah

Cris: no

Dan: him

Cris: him away. Yeah ... lets him have

Sidey: it.

And this becomes, it becomes a kind of serial killer thing where he... How many does he do? Like we see him take out a, a homeless person. Yeah.

Reegs: There's the hooker that he smears

Sidey: as well ... and there's, then he starts to really lose it where he he starts curb crawling, finds a prostitute.

Yeah. She's wearing a distinctive kind of almost like crochet kind of outfit, and we see it then. The next time we see it, it's covered in blood, and he washes the blood all over himself. Yeah. And I thought, "Oh, he's gone." I thought he was going like full Red Dragon or something here. Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, 'cause he... There is a a... 'Cause there's some good mega acting as it develops, 'cause he starts hearing voices and

Sidey: he's gone full schizophrenic,

Dan: when he's on the

Reegs: white

Dan: is a little bit later on- Yeah ...

Sidey: but he also he, like key, he inserts himself into her life. Yeah. Jumps in the cab.

Reegs: engineers a meet cute in the rain, doesn't he? Yeah. And holds a cab for her.

Sidey: Yeah. Well,

Dan: it. He knows who she is. He- Yeah kind of becomes obsessed by her, and yeah, it's absolutely torrential monsoon rain, and he's his charming self. And he, he's working as a s- he's a stock guy, you know.

He's doing-

Sidey: on Wall Street, yeah ... yeah He's a successful dude

high, high-pressure

Dan: job.

Reegs: And we've already seen her love life is like...

And many guys are put off by the fact that she's a copper, and- Yeah ... yeah. So there's nothing going

Dan: And he kind of, you know, is charming. They end up going for dinner.

Reegs: Well, he's clearly infatuated with her- Yeah ... almost from the instant he meets her

Sidey: the instant he meets

Reegs: as well. And,

Dan: I think the fact that she was able to pull the trigger is one of the things that, you know, he wants to feel that power as well. She did it. He saw her first. He's now got the, the gun that-

Sidey: Yeah

Dan: was, you know, nearly pulled against her, and he's using that.

So it was all kind of wound up in this infatuation

Sidey: takes her for dinner, doesn't he, in some swanky restaurant? Yeah. And he's like, "Don't worry, it's fine. We'll be okay in here." Yeah. She's worried that she's not, you know, smart enough or whatever. He's like, "Don't worry." So they have

Reegs: they, They start up this little relationship at the same time as she is now brought back onto the force. I didn't understand the logic of this at all, but basically Clancy Brown's character

Sidey: by name only or

Reegs: yeah, you can come and be a detective by name only and work with me because-

Dan: Well, he

fancies her

a bit

Reegs: her this bod- He fancies her a bit, and also this body's been found with bullets on it that have got her name on it,

Dan: name etched out. Y-

Reegs: Her name tagged, so is that- And they say to her, "Oh, anybody come into your life recently or anything like that?" It's like, "No, no." And obviously she's just started this romance with the mysterious banker.

Sidey: They chuck a wife-beating side plot in with her dad. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, beating up Mum and... Yeah.

Sidey: But it,

Reegs: it, it, it re- the m- the movie is slightly refreshing in the fact that it takes what would often be the third act twist where you find out that Ron Silver is the bad guy, and she finds that out, and puts it slap bang in the middle of the movie.

So there's quite a lot to happen after that. So he reveals to her-

Cris: her-

Sidey: her- He gets a bit overconfident about like... Well, he's obviously a deranged maniac

Reegs: the first time they have sex, isn't

Sidey: He's, he takes her top off, or he's starting to- Yeah ... and she's got her gun in her, in the holster thing. Mm. And she's like, "Oh, sorry."

And he's like, "No, no, leave it on." And you're like, "Oh, okay."

Reegs: Like really horny.

Sidey: like, "No, take it out. Point it at me like this with both hands." She's like I don't know." Okay. And he's like, "We could..." And he just reveals, like straight away.

Dan: was,

I was in the- He's

Reegs: like, "I was there."

He sees her as a sort of ... She'll say a kindred spirit. It's more like something that's inspired or awoken something in him, I think.

Sidey: He- she straight away is like, "Fuck, it's been, it's you that's been killing all these people." Yeah. And he's like, "We could do it together. We could be s- Yeah ... you know, all-powerful." You're

Dan: she not get

Sidey: "You're a fucking loony."

Dan: and Clyde

Cris: Yeah, why would you not wanna do that?

Reegs: that? But she pulls out the gun and brings the police in, and then he just like completely gaslights her, and was like, "Nah, it's all bollocks" down at the station. And his hotshot lawyer, Richard Jenkins- Yeah

who was in

Sidey: Yeah.

Saw him last week, yeah

Reegs: Turns up to,

Sidey: "You got nothing."

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah. Basically do all that. Yeah. And get him released. So now we've got Ron Silver, who we know is the bad guy, she knows is the bad guy, but nobody in the police again will really believe her about anything.

Sidey: I think he turns up at her parents' house.

Reegs: does, yeah.

Sidey: your friend's here." She's like, "Oh, fuck's sake." Fucking hell. Yeah.

Reegs: hell.

Sidey: So yeah, he just starts to then do this sort of stuff to her, like stalking her almost. Yeah And if she does anything about it, sh- then she's gonna get done for harassment, so she's really stuck. But it doesn't take him too long to just go f- like completely fucking loony.

Dan: loony. H- have you ever had a stalker like that, Chris, after you?

Cris: Quite a few times, yeah. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. I, I figured. Yeah, I knew

Reegs: Sorry about that

Dan: quiet, so I, I just thought that might've been

Reegs: It's all water under the bridge now between us, isn't it,

Sidey: trauma. It, it

Cris: back the dragons. Yeah.

Reegs: So she goes really quickly from "Oh, I got involved a bit too quick with this guy who turned out to be a mentalist," to

She s- So she starts stalking him and 'cause he frantically goes out looking for the gun that, which he's

Dan: which he's taken. Well, he's hidden somewhere in Central Park or something, I

Reegs: so she watches that spot to see what's going on, and then Clancy Brown goes with ... He's watching her, 'cause he fancies her a bit and wants to keep her safe maybe.

She makes the crazy decision to handcuff him to

Sidey: was, it was amazing c- what follows after this.

Yeah. She handcuffs him to his own steering wheel and then fucks off to go and chase Eugene.

Reegs: It turns out it wasn't Eugene. She's been sent off on a red

Sidey: It's some crazy, like, homeless lady. Yeah. And then Eugene's in his car with what's his face? The big man With a gun just like- Pointing it at his face and saying-

nearly getting his head

Dan: his face- Yeah ... and saying turn around. I wanna see you. I want you to see me see you to see it, to see it, to see the

Sidey: the gun." And

Dan: he's, he's

almost, like, jerking off at this point, isn't he? He's like...

And just about as you see the, the close-up of the finger squeezing the trigger, shots ring out and catches him in- Yeah ... in the shoulder. Yeah. Again, a really poor shot from her point of view 'cause she

Sidey: had- She

Dan: had him there.

Reegs: to

Sidey: Clancy's able to like boot the door to like fend him off a bit, and he, you know- Straight to hell, man ... he has to, he has to do a runner. And he immediately leaves.

And then they fuck. Yeah. And I'm like-

Reegs: They go straight back to

Sidey: nearly had his head blown off because you fucking like handcuffed him to his car, and now you're willing to just fuck that off.

Reegs: he's part of the ... The movie has been pretty unsubtle about the power structures that are silencing you, even though you keep talking about what's happening.

And he's part of it, but you just go back and fuck him straight away.

Dan: A- and then when she gets there, he,

Reegs: only that, that are they fucking, but Eugene is in the bathroom- He's in the bathroom ... of her house jerking off. Yeah, in the cuck chair. He's, he's- No, he's fixing himself up

Dan: out the bullet by his fingers.

Oh. Oh. He's just, like, well into it though, isn't

Sidey: could tell, like you could tell this was directed by a lady, let's say, because you don't see anything of, Jamie Lee Curtis ... Jamie, but you do see Clancy Brown's ass. It's

Reegs: But you do see Clancy Brown's ass. That's a good one. Yeah. He comes in to get some toilet roll to wipe his dick, I guess.

That's probably what it was. And

He's ... What's his chops? Is it Eugene's in the bathroom with a gun wrapped in a towel, and he times it with some passing sirens, and he's able to ex- use it like a silencer to

Dan: can't hear that gun in the bathroom next to you. Yeah. I know he

Sidey: silent ... New York.

Reegs: is

Dan: silences it with the t- New York. New York. But yeah, she's just kind of having a fag or something, I think,

Sidey: isn't she? There's a lot of smoking in this

Reegs: film. A lot of smoking, yeah. Yeah. Those two coppers that she sees later in the car, and they're both smoking fags. Oh, it's brilliant. So then he goes out and rapes her. It's pretty horri- horrible.

Yeah.

Sidey: I wasn't expecting that. No. Neither was she. So she

Reegs: out of the bathroom, rapes her. And yeah. And then-

Dan: He,

Sidey: She,

Reegs: He, she, he just

Sidey: fires some more shots at him. She's- Fires

Reegs: more shots at him

Sidey: she reaches her gun gets some more shots.

I didn't think she hits him

Reegs: Not at this

Sidey: he escapes through the fire escape- Yeah ... and does a runner.

Reegs: So she calls the emergency services for Nick Mann, who's on the floor. That's when we get to see his ass in the bathroom. And then she is taken down to the hospital to be sort of sorted out- Mm ... where she decides once and for all she's gonna end this. So she chins the sec- the copper who's

Sidey: Yeah ... guarding her

Reegs: her room, and then goes back and-

Sidey: She, she takes his uniform

Reegs: takes his uniform

gets her uniform... He takes his uniform, is it? Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Which fits her

Reegs: her perfectly. Perfectly. it's a rewrite from what the, it was gonna be originally. She was originally gonna be completely nude during the climactic gunfight.

Sidey: That would make total sense.

Reegs: they did change that. So then she goes back out on patrol in this guy's uniform, and eventually she'll catch up with him.

Sidey: Shootout in the subway.

Reegs: There's a s- shootout on the subway first. I think they're both shot in that. Yeah. And then a shootout in, like, Times Square or Wall Street maybe.

Dan: Well, there, there's, there's loads of shootouts in little alleys and things, isn't there? They, at one point sh- he's be- he's hiding behind, like, a,

Reegs: A hotdog stand

a

Cris: hotdog,

Sidey: and

Dan: and he, you just see his feet kinda

Reegs: coming from behind. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: must've been shot, like, three times already, and the shots are, are so close to where his head just was and everything. Yeah. They, I mean, they're playing a dangerous game, but she There's a car co- She's

Sidey: it. She's got as much- His

Dan: comes around the corner.

Sidey: got as much bloodlust as him really.

I mean, she- Yeah ... she takes his car now, fucking mows him down- Yeah ... which still doesn't kill him. Yeah. But then she makes sure. Yeah. Just fucking executes him. It's a bit like fucking, Jack Reacher Yeah where he just dispenses his own justice then, you know, just- Yeah ... killed Werner Herzog and she's like-

Dan: of stuff

Reegs: like-

kind of stuff That's done. Yeah

Sidey: And then she's sort of picked up, and she's put in the, the meat wagon.

Reegs: And that's it. That

Sidey: just

Reegs: literally it. The

Sidey: fades to black gradually, and you're like-

Reegs: taken in the,

Sidey: she's completely fucked here 'cause she's just killed someone." Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. He w- he was the madman that'd been killing, and I'm sure they'll be able to tie the, the guns to it all. But they didn't make a Blue Steel 2, so we never really knew

Sidey: know.

Cris: Mm.

Reegs: She is a catastrophically

Cris: catastrophically

Reegs: police officer, isn't she? L- I

Dan: work

Reegs: just in all- From the beginning From the literally-

Dan: day one.

Yeah. Even before

Reegs: Even before day one. Yeah. So in- I think the test that she had

Cris: that she had at the start was a bit of a, that was a bit of a cheeky one. Yeah. It

Dan: It was a tough one, but I mean-

Sidey: I think it's- So I could give her some sympathy on that ... if you give people

Dan: guns, you've gotta give people, you know, responsibility.

Reegs: It's tough to make a movie that's about people criticizing women's competence in a professional environment, and then make your female protagonist completely incompetent. It's, like, a real hard fucking sell

Sidey: It's really... It's, you

Dan: know,

Cris: she at least drive in this film? Can- Yeah. Yeah,

Reegs: she can drive. She can drive I,

Sidey: she- And then- She attacks him in the car and does a good job of it

Dan: probably goes to show how difficult it is a job to do as well, because what do you do? In real life, like that first scene where she's in the supermarket, and she's done it all for training before, but then actually-

Reegs: Yeah

Sidey: Your first kill

Dan: your first...

I mean, a

million things go wrong. You go and tell the guy who's taking a shit first of all- Yeah ... or you go and tell the guy on the... You go,

Sidey: She didn't radio for backup, did she?

No.

Dan: did she? No. "No, you need to get out there." You could

Reegs: run to the toilet and be like, "Right, fucking wipe up. Let's go"

Dan: Yeah, this is it. Crimp that off. And

Sidey: We're going

Reegs: by the time she'd snuck up the back stairs, they could've both come guns blazing through the front

Dan: It, was a,

it was a long time coming actually by the time she did make her way round the, the front. And,

you know,

the, lots of different kind of scenarios go through and through and through.

But,

Reegs: This

Sidey: come out the same year as Silence of the Lambs? Did

Reegs: Lambs? Did it? 1990? 1990.

Sidey: Because if it did and you got two trainee female law enforcement officers What? Yeah.

Dan: I thought Silence

Cris: I know who I'm going for ... was a

Reegs: later I thought it was stylishly directed, at least.

Sidey: was the year after.

Reegs: year after

you know, it looks good. It's got a lot of, like, moody shadows and people being hidden by,

Dan: Some nice city shots and things

city shots,

Reegs: noir-y. Some city shots, yeah

Cris: I liked it. I

Sidey: smoke and some city shots, yeah. I liked it. I thought he was a good villain.

Reegs: He is. He was proper mega acting He

Dan: 'Cause

Sidey: like motiveless, he's just lost it. Yeah. Pressure of what could happen to all of us, you know, in finance jobs.

Dan: we're ready to, we're ready to... Yeah, once AI

Cris: bust a cap in your ass.

Dan: That's it, Chris.

Sidey: she was sort of, you know, you felt for her. Yeah. Even though she was, yeah, she did have sort of, She might end up on a pip. Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah, I was gonna say, she'd, she would be on a performance improvement

Dan: I was just thinking, like, I mean, your high-pressure jobs, your, like, finance world- Mm ... and your, like, finance trust.

What do, what do you do? IT. Your IT, kind of within that company. But yours is with the, the coffee shop. It, it tends to think more of, like, Friends, don't you? Think, think more of comedy from, from Chris'?

Cris: Yeah, but- If

Sidey: but- I see, I see Chris getting pretty stressed in there.

Yeah. I think it's- Having to deal with Megan

Dan: could you just, have you just thought throwing

Cris: just...

Sidey: you just

Cris: you just thrown, thrown

Dan: the hot coffee over them or something?

Ah. Over myself. Yeah. Over

Cris: Let alone anyone else.

Sidey: Had you seen this before, Chris? No. I've,

Cris: I've th- I was waiting for everyone to finish because this is, H- honestly, today, all day at work, I couldn't think of anything else but why did I spend £2.50 to rent this on Amazon Prime?

Mm. 'Cause I watched until she goes to the barbecue, basically until she goes for dinner the first time- Yeah ... when he pours champagne and all that. They get... Yeah. And I was tired last night. My, I wasn't really... And I, I just don't understand why this would've been a good film at any point.

Sidey: And then-

Cris: I said to Kara, she's like, "Y- you just put this on.

What are you doing?" I was like, "I'm going to bed. This is... I can see where this is going." Wow. "I don't need to see any, any more of this." I abandon all hope, and I'm also really annoyed that I just spent £2.50 on

Sidey: contributed to the 8.2 million worldwide

Dan: didn't it?

Sidey: that it's taken,

Reegs: million and

Sidey: £2.49,

Cris: Two pounds and 49 pence. Yeah.

Reegs: It... What's quite annoying is that you could just put, you could just do a free trial to Lionsgate- So-

Sidey: That's what I did ... to

Reegs: it

Cris: So what is that? But I, I did see that, but I, I know how I'm gonna be. I'm gonna forget to cancel it, and then they're

Dan: I, I cancel them on the same day that I do them-

Reegs: I

Dan: they just still gives you seven days.

Sidey: had to watch the Danny Kozan one on for-

Dan: F- Yeah, yeah. E- exactly that.

Sidey: Right.

But I, I just... There was enough in this for me to, to enjoy it. It's brisk as well. It's like 90 minutes.

Reegs: 98 it was, in fact.

Cris: the, the thing for me was when, when...

Wh- what did it for me was, I don't know if you remember the scene when sh- they go to her friend's barbecue. Yeah. The, the actress that we've seen in all the films, and she's-

Sidey: got killed

Cris: she got killed. Did she? Yeah. Okay. Well, she goes to the barbecue, and she speaks to that guy, the guy with the big nose.

Oh, right. And, and she's like, "Oh, and I, I honestly couldn't under- couldn't make out if she was g- gay or she was straight in this film because, you know when she was in the police uniform, and she smiles at those girls, and they both turn around like, "Oh my God, you look so

Dan: Oh, yeah, yeah. That's early in the film. So early-

Cris: in the film.

Still. Early in the film. And then she, she speaks to that guy, and he's like, "Oh, you're a cop. Oh." And then she's like, "Oh, wait, your car is this, and your license is expired," and whatever, and then gives him a kiss. And I'm like, there's no chemistry. You've just-

Dan: up.

Yeah. Also, that

Reegs: that was a really weird interaction for a guy who'd been- It's a bit- Yeah.

Cris: Yeah,

So I was just like, what is the point of watching this film if from now on, this is gonna be like this? I can't... I- so, like-

Reegs: you were out. You... An

Sidey: I was hoping to see her boobs, I have to say It really was. And they d- teased them because when she was putting her best dress on- Yeah

They sort of like-

Cris: Oh, you got like the bra

Sidey: like a little look at her bra. Wasn't that kind of a bit chill? I think that was to show that she was feminine but also strong, 'cause, you know, it wasn't... If it's a bloke dredge, he might just had her tits out or something.

Dan: it was a bloke, you might just have her tits out or something.

I- it certainly wasn't one of my favorite films.

Reegs: The best film I've ever seen.

Sidey: Well,

Dan: I know that's how you feel about it.

Sidey: I,

Dan: I managed to, to get the way through it primarily, I think, for Ron Silver and his mega acting and his his v- you know, him being the villain more than for Jamie Lee Curtis in this, which I think she's done better work.

Sidey: Don't

Dan: I... But the directing was, was, was good. I thought, you know, it was... It

Sidey: gave- It's of its time for sure, 90, early

Dan: nice shots and and the slow-mo scenes when they're kind of shooting and things that I thought worked

Reegs: the gun and sex stuff was fucking hot as well. Yeah. Well,

Dan: Well, that's it. Who lo- who doesn't love people washing themselves in blood? Mm. But yeah, it wasn't a film that I'm gonna give a strong recommend to.

Mm.

It- I would give-

Sidey: I would

Dan: a medium to-

Cris: would give it

Sidey: it a blue recommend.

Dan: Yeah. There you go. In, on the color chart- Mm ... it would be something like blue rather than red hot.

Cris: Ice blue. Yeah.

Reegs: Lesbians. Strong stuff