Midweek Mention... Jonah Hex

Jonah Hex

Dan: So we can argue about who's... Which one's midweek and which not.

Sidey: We never did specify.

Dan: No. because-

Sidey: are we going ageist and saying,

Dan: the newest one is always, like, the, the- Yeah ... main feature, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So this would make Jonah Hex our midweek mention because it's two years older.

Sidey: Yeah. And what was the motivation for picking this classic?

Reegs: it was- Well, a lot of people are saying this movie's better than True Grit. Yeah. So

Dan: Well, I'd never heard of anything to do with any of this. It sort of It, it, it was, it was literally, "Dan, it's your choices." Yeah. And that came in quite late. Well,

Sidey: you did have to step in late because Riggs bottled it.

Dan: Yeah. We... Well, this is what I didn't wanna say, but

Cris: Oh, but this is from what I can tell by looking at it, this is based on a true event, right? This is based on-

Dan: Yeah ... a true story. True story stuff.

Sidey: a true story. Yes. Yeah, it's, it's a,

Dan: DC Comics. And and then I chose this because actually I, I thought of Chris.

Sidey: Because it's really, really short.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: Oh, right.

Dan: And

Sidey: It's one hour 21, this, this

Dan: is. Yeah.

Reegs: And Chris, you were a big fan of the Crank series, weren't you? And this was written by Neveldine and whatever they were called.

Cris: Neveldine/Taylor. Oh, really? Okay. I, I feel bad now for not watching this. I just listened to the-

Sidey: Well, you may change your opinion on that.

Cris: I've listened to Sidey, and he said, "Oh, don't bother." To be fair, I didn't have time.

Sidey: That was the early days. Yeah.

Cris: no. Yeah, that was today. So, so it's not like, no, that was today.

Sidey: Today. Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor. Yes. Roger's brother.

Reegs: Yes.

Dan: Yeah. Is he any relation to the snooker player, Dennis?

Sidey: Yeah, that's his uncle

Reegs: All of them. They're, all the Taylors are all-

Dan: And talking of Taylors, we were thinking about getting a suit cut, weren't we? Because I've, I've got my tailored trousers

Sidey: you've got your bespoke outfit on, yeah.

Dan: these made. Yeah. Just a mere smip of-

Reegs: are like they're cut in shot between-

Dan: These

Reegs: It's like- ... like one type of trouser, and then in the middle they've sort of inserted something to-

Dan: 30 years old these are, Riggs. Yeah. And for I know £2.25 I paid for them back in the day.

Sidey: That is value. That is

Dan: That is value. That is value ... that is value. Yeah. I designed and got these made. But we're not here to talk about my rather fetching flared trousers.

Sidey: We are talking about Jonah Hex, believe it or not.

Reegs: it or not. Which Dan comically described as Johan Hex in the trailer, which gave me a l- much different mental image-

Dan: Yeah. Than this one Yeah. It's not as Scandinavian-sounding as that, is it?

Reegs: But this one's about a Confederate- Yes ... war hero.

Sidey: Yes. He... So you get, in the first 90 seconds of action, you get his origin story where he has killed... So the cast is, is pretty sensational. It's Josh Brolin, Malkovich Malkovich, Megan Fox, Michael Fassbender, Will Arnett, Michael Shannon- Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Lance Reddick. And he has... So Jonah Hex, played by Josh Brolin, he has killed John Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich's family. Yeah. And so, in a fit of revenge, they s- they sort of string him up on a big

Dan: Well, he killed his son. Yeah. Killed his son, yeah

Sidey: And, and Malkovich says, "You've killed my, everything I love, so I'm gonna kill everything you love and make you watch." And he's strung up in a sort of cross. Yeah. And they... Jaso Wells, they burn down the house with the wife and the son in it, and make him watch, and thrash around as

Reegs: quite fierce, innit?

Sidey: Like The Exorcist. Yeah, it's quite... But they do it in about-

Reegs: Yeah, 30

Sidey: seconds. And then it goes into a sort of

Reegs: He's burned on his face, isn't he? With

Sidey: He's... They burn him with his face, isn't it? Yeah. They, they do a, they do a q- 'cause they, they obviously- Huge- I don't know, I don't know exactly- ... branded turtle ... yeah.

Dan: is who- They,

Sidey: they brand him on the cheek, and then he-

Dan: Malkovich is

Sidey: goes into a, an animated kinda comic strip bit for this bit, and- They very quickly explain that he can talk, he can sixth sense it. He can talk to dead people.

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: So he's not, he

Reegs: Like Hellboy. Yeah. I don't think I remembered this

Dan: bit. No,

Sidey: yes.

Reegs: can dig up a corpse- yeah, can't he? And talk

Sidey: like that.

Dan: Yeah, so what, what had happened, And I, I found out then i- in this kind of part of the film, right at the beginning, it's DC Comics. I didn't... It was- Yeah ... a character I didn't know. But he was revived by, Native Americans ... Na- Native American Indians and-

Sidey: By smoking the peace pipe

Dan: smoking the peace pipe where he inhaled it, and a load of crows and things come into the-

Sidey: Yeah, they, they sort of like almost just plagiarized The Crow a little bit. Yeah,

Reegs: was about to say, isn't it about sort of taking loads of established Western tropes, and then making it really kind of in this- Yeah ... cartoonishly over-the-top- Yeah ... supernatural world?

Dan: And he then is... becomes a bounty hunter because he finds out that Quentin Turnbull actually died in a fire which meant that he couldn't kill him. So now he just roams around looking you know, zero fucks. Yeah. He's just gonna go and kill anybody for money, and we-

Reegs: got a load of crows that follow him,

Dan: Well, no, they do at certain moments. They- Yeah ... they're kind of conjured up

Sidey: but- You do get the feeling that there was probably a lot of left on the cutting room floor and or-

Reegs: And the movie had four different directors or something stupid as well, didn't

Sidey: it? It ha- I don't know about that, but it had a lot of reshoots as well. Yeah, it's ... Sometimes it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And Megan Fox is introduced to us as the most unbelievably hot-looking prostitute in the Wild West. Do you know what I mean? They probably had no teeth and- Yeah ... had, like,

Dan: Un, un- unbelievably

Sidey: waist when you first see her-

Reegs: When a real prostitute won't have washed in a month

Sidey: you could probably get your, your hand round her waist like that. I

Reegs: it's- The corset

Sidey: Of course ... like, ridiculous. And she looks immaculate, albeit, I thought they sprayed a little bit of water on her to make her look sweaty, but she's sleeping with a guy who's obviously smitten with her, and she's kinda like... So she's shown to be, like, a bit of a badass, and then she, she's o- obviously shagging Jonah Hex as well, so that's... there's, like, a, like,

Dan: Well, he, he, he comes in first, doesn't he? Yeah. You kind of meet the badass that he is, and he- Yeah ... he's got three... The, the Clayton brothers. Of course, it's the Clayton brothers. Like there's, you

Sidey: The- Clayto.

Dan: And they, they're o- being dragged by the back of his horse, all dead. And he goes, speaks to the big, fat sheriff of the town, and he says, "Well, you know, if you just pay me my money, and I'll be on my way." And they're saying, "Oh, well, the weapon pence for this," and he's bringing out all the kind of classic like mayor talk and- Lawyer speak Lawyer speak and, and old-timey kind of- Yeah ... American Western speak. And he says, "Well, there was four of them," basically, and he throws them a head, and he goes, "The other one was too fat to carry on the horse." Like, you know, so they're going, "Whoa." He throws it down. But they've got no intention of paying him. They're gonna ambush him and kill him. So we realize how badass he is then. It's at this point he brings out a Gatling gun

Sidey: on a horse. One e- one either side of the

Dan: Yeah, on

Reegs: was the bit I really remembered, and is partially why I feel fond of this movie, was thinking of the Gatling guns on a

Sidey: So th- this is 1876, but

Reegs: it was d- like you say, a true story.

Sidey: is saying, there's still some kind of high-tech, high-ish tech weaponry. Yeah. So he's got these... He's mounted these two Gatling guns to the side of his horse, and later on he goes back to see Lance Reddick- Yeah ... who has that great way of looking do- like, looking up, you know, like that. Yeah. He does it in The Wire quite a lot. And he, he's, Like, his armorer, he goes into the back room of his shop, and he's got all these- Western ... other, like, mad guns that- Mad ... you've never seen, like, in the West. They're just made for... And it, that got me thinking about the Wicky Wicky Wild, Wild West, which also had this kind of steampunk- Yeah kind of Wild West est-

Dan: It's like he's, he's the, the Western from- That's definitely what it is ... from Smith and Western, you know, I guess. He, i- it's that kind of... You know, there is lots of tropes in it. There's lots of connections. He, he shoots everyone. Guy comes, you know, hiding in a coffin. Guy by the big bell with the, the town and everything. Shoots the bell, ringing in his ears, then he's got a clear shot. All those kind of things you've seen before, it's all brought in. He goes to visit Megan Fox, who knows him. He's got this terrible scar.

Reegs: Yeah. So

Dan: this scar- Did they talk

Reegs: about that or, No,

Sidey: Not really. No. I

Dan: mean, there's a, there's a couple of "Oh, what'd you do to your face?" "Caught myself shaving" jokes and, and that kind of thing. He takes zero like shit off anyone. This one guy draws a knife on him from across the bar, he just shoots him.

Sidey: While he's drinking, yeah.

Dan: While he's drinking. Like, while he's drinking, doesn't slow him down. He's he, he does... He's zero fucks, like f- throughout the film.

Sidey: His, his family have been killed but to give some stakes to the movie, that's really all that Megan Fox's, what's her name? Lila?

Dan: Lila or Tulia

Sidey: go- she goes by two different names in the film. So he's sleeping with her, so she will eventually become, like, a plot device to get him

Reegs: to give him something to do- Yeah ... 'cause his family are dead, so.

Sidey: But it turns out that Turnbull, who, who is Malkovich, who had killed his family- Yeah he, he, he's not actually dead. That's right. And he's developing , he's developing some kind of- super nuclear weapon that can, He, the way he describes it is destroy entire continents. want to do that. But he says, "For now, we'll just have to do," you know, and, and he demonstrates it on they look like enormous cannonballs that he fires into frontier town, and then there's a golden orb that... So when people then go out and they're like, "What, what's going on? Why are these things landing in our town?" And whilst they're all out there, then they, they, those get detonated by this golden orb. It's completely inexplicable, right? And th- he's, he's watching from up high with his cronies, who one of them, the, his ring- his main number two is Michael Fassbender in I suppose everyone has to do what they need to do to, like, make it in Hollywood. Yeah. But it's fucking terrible.

Reegs: Has he got a bowler hat or

Sidey: He's got a bowler hat on. Yeah. He's got a bowler hat, and he's got a tattoo up his neck and onto his chin.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah, it, it looks a bit

Reegs: guy was trying to tell me to get one of those in

Sidey: Irish accent. Yeah. He

Dan: looks like a, a guy from from Moby-Dick, you know? The guy who had the- yeah the, the kind of tattoos in Moby-Dick. And yeah, they're, you know, battling around and, and making their, their way through. There's a guy that gets a bit too touchy-feely with Megan Fox, and she puts him into his place, and you know that she's badass as well. And he r- after he realizes that, they've got...

Sidey: Will Arnett's character is Lieutenant Glass, and he, they know all about Turnbull, and he has to try and recruit-

Reegs: Johan ...

Sidey: johan. And tells him stuff and blah, blah, blah. And this is where we get to see him first demonstrate his kind of supernatural power where there's a guy in a coffin and he grabs him, and he's, like, completely decomposed

Reegs: and- Yeah

Sidey: And he grabs him, and the guy... The, the, the, the VFX for this are actually really good. The guy springs back to life, and he's able to interrogate dead people. We never get to see-

Reegs: What, like the corpse is reanimated,

Sidey: in a way. Yeah Okay. But not as in, like it's a talking zombie. Yeah. They c- they go fully back to being- Okay human. All right. But we never get to see what the people watching see

Reegs: Right.

Sidey: He just drops them back down, and as soon as it goes back onto the ground, it goes back to being a decomposed body. And so he, he's able to get, you know, some intel off people. And one of them is,

Dan: they can't stay out too long because they start to burn as if they were- Yeah vampires the other way around. And we know that it's also 100 years coming up. There's gonna be a big thing in New York for 100 years of America being in place, Make America great ... this is make America great again. And that is what Maleficent Maleficent is, is plotting to blow up

Reegs: All right.

Sidey: Yeah, it's a real homeschooling list. In the end-

Dan: Edge of the seat stuff now

Sidey: Well, not in the end. First of all Turnbull sends off, what's Fassbender's character Burke. He sends Burke off to kidnap Megan Fox, and he knocks her around a bit first, actually. All right. And

Dan: Find me something that-

Sidey: There was something else going on because there's another guy. She had another regular who'd come back. Yeah. And she ended up stabbing him. I think that was maybe just to show us that she was a badass. But he knocks her around and then kidnaps her, and that's the leverage they've got because Johan liked to shag this particular pros- prostitute. So he has to go and rescue her or something.

Reegs: The old noble prostitute trope.

Sidey: Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then they show this factory set up that Turnbull's got, where they're manufacturing somehow in the Wild West these... It's not a new... I don't know what-

Dan: It's like a, a, a cannonball that glows up, and it, it's when it hits-

Sidey: got some kind of weird source of energy in it, but- Right this movie is 80 minutes long.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: So it, like, barely makes any sense.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: But we know now at this point the only person that can stop him, so says the President of the United States-

Reegs: Is Johan ... played

Dan: by the guy out of-

Sidey: I couldn't think what his name was

Dan: I can't remember what Turnbull's

Reegs: Oh, it's Aidan Gillen,

Dan: isn't it? Aidan, yeah.

Reegs: yeah, from Game of

Sidey: Oh, yes. U- Ulysses S. Grant is, is the president,

Dan: And,

Reegs: Well, he was an actual president, so.

Sidey: Yeah, that's, that was just trying to think who it would,

Dan: Yeah, so, so based on a true story. Yeah. And he's said, "You go and find-"

Reegs: Johann

Dan: Johan ... Johan. He's the only one that can stop him. And then he just goes off on his own, and he, although he's reenacted back into the army because he says, "Look, no chance. I'm not going back into the army." They say Quentin's alive, and he goes, "What? Quentin Tarantino?" He goes, "No, it's not Quentin Tarantino. It's Quentin Turnbull."

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: And he says, "Right, I'm after him then. I'm on his case." He starts reading dead people's bodies. He goes to Turnbull's son, which was his best friend. And he digs him up, and he says- Yeah ... "Long time, Jeb. Not seen you in a long time." He goes, they start fighting, and he goes, "Look

Reegs: l- you've only got a few seconds here, mate"

Dan: haven't got long here, like, you

Sidey: know, You are actually dead, yeah.

Dan: Yeah. And he goes, "Oh, well, what is it?" And he goes, "I've been watching you. You're a monster. Yeah, my old man's no good either." Okay, look, he can see where his dad is because he's got that connection, so even though he's dead-

Reegs: needs him to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, because ... Yeah,

Dan: needs him too. So then they say, "Right, he's down at the old quarry," or it wasn't, but it, it might as well have been. And there then they, they kind of fight off. off. They, they beat

Sidey: with both hands. He's also warned that when he does eventually snuff it- Yeah ... Johan, there's plenty of people waiting in the afterlife

Reegs: hell for

Sidey: In hell for him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So good times await all round.

Reegs: S- so what, then he beats up everyone?

Sidey: No, he gets shot. Oh. He gets shot point blank in the chest.

Reegs: I did not see that coming.

Sidey: No, neither did I. And I also, I didn't really, still, after it happened, understand, I wasn't... I thought this was the flashback-

Dan: Yeah

Sidey: to when he first-

Reegs: Yeah ...

Sidey: came back.

Reegs: but it's the second time.

Sidey: But it's the s- he, he's... So he's re-resurrected by the peace pipe this time. Yeah. He's got all the shot, He manages to- Which they put some sort of moss or something in him. And this is where we see them on the crack pipe again- Yeah ... and him inhaling it whilst he's out, and then a a-

Dan: Crow so

Sidey: crow comes out of his gob. And then I think it becomes a real crow later on, or

Dan: on Yeah, yeah. I think it's a, it's a, it's a crow that comes out of his mouth, and that's all

Reegs: So now he's got crow p- crow-based

Dan: had a bit of a crow- Yeah ... a crow in his throat Yeah

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: And once he got that out, he was, he was fine to go and start battle again and rescue Megan Fox, who now is by this time-

Reegs: So wh- have we got some sort of big sort of half-hearted CGI final of, like-

Sidey: Well, first of all, he kills Burke, but that fight is really anticlimactic. He, he kills Fassbender rec- rescues Megan Fox.

Reegs: Is there not some-

Dan: they together they, they take down,

Reegs: Did I mi- did I miss the part where they stop the glowing orb cannons

Dan: Yeah. There's an ax that's thrown just as the, the globe's about to get loaded into the,

Reegs: Yeah

Sidey: it with a ...just the, like the blade of the ax just stops the

Dan: the ax just stops it The blade of the ax stops it getting loaded in there.

Reegs: And now there's just Malkovich to run

Dan: and his two And, well, and then they kind of jump out the boat that is floating towards the big celebration. It happens to be around the 4th of July. So the The, the boat that blows up and they just get out of at the same time. In fact, it blows up, and then you see them jump.

Reegs: Yeah

Dan: it was that close. And people watching see all the explosions going off

Reegs: And they think it's fireworks.

Dan: They think it's fireworks ... and they think it's fireworks. Yeah E- even though

Reegs: Do they, really? ...there's

Dan: already been one kind of

Reegs: explosion- Yeah

Dan: Yeah ... on a tower. And,

Sidey: ulysses gives him a pardon he

Dan: He gives, gets full pardon, gets money.

Sidey: offers him the job of Sheriff of the United States.

Dan: That's it

Reegs: That's a pretty big patch ...

Sidey: that's

Dan: catch Big job. He says, "I don't

Sidey: turns it down, though. He says it would, ... He's not, he can't be respectable. Like Mel and Kim. Remember them?

Reegs: Yeah, I do. Yeah.

Dan: He goes "I don't think that's really a job, but... And leaving it open for another sequel, you know where I am

Sidey: sorry to report that we never got that

Reegs: sequel. Oh, that is a shame.

Dan: well, it's still,

Reegs: How was Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich in this? Was he- Bad ... really bad? Yeah. Just uneventful or? 'Cause usually a Malkovich performance- Phoning it in ... has got something to it. Phoning it in,

Dan: I mean- He's- ... they all were

Sidey: They were not with it ... he's sort of like his, ... Well, he's, well, he's more mega than his In the Line of Fire character. He's got a great bald long.

Reegs: Oh, now you're talking.

Sidey: Yeah. That was probably the highlight of the film, to be honest. Yeah.

Dan: I didn't think this was this bad. I dunno,

Sidey: bad. Dan, this is really- ... really bad ... really bad. Contender for the worst ever. I'm gonna say it. It's contender for worst ever. No,

Dan: Continue to watch though. I'm gonna say it, it's gonna take- No, it's not. Cats?

Sidey: It's not as bad as Cats, but it's, it's in the top five worst that I've ever watched

Dan: in my life. I, well, I-I'm, I'm not saying that, no.

Sidey: I

Cris: No. From what you said, it just sounds like it's a comedy. It's just like a-

Sidey: I was lying on the couch watching it, and then noticed it was really bad, so I got my iPad out and I was like, making notes on there. And then I, and then I had my phone as well.

Reegs: How far away from, like, the level of, say, Ghost Rider is this? You know, that's what I'm conjuring up.

Sidey: Same, same level.

Reegs: Okay. Well, I can tolerate-

Sidey: It's from an era when they hadn't figured out how to make a good comic book adaptation. And I mean, they really hadn't. It came out on the same day as Toy Story 3. Which is, you know, fucking excellent.

Reegs: And is Toy Story 3 better than this movie, would you say?

Sidey: It just edges it. Yeah,

Reegs: What year was it?

Sidey: What year is it? 2010.

Reegs: Fuck me. It's not even that long ago really when you think about

Sidey: it. It really isn't.

Reegs: And I think there's the kernel of a good idea in there, isn't there, with the sort of supernatural

Sidey: Western- I think if they tried to make it now, you know,

Reegs: With that cast again, just get everybody again but do

Sidey: them, but, but now that people are more on board with comic book adaptations and they know how to make them work, then someone... also, this was the director's fir- it wasn't his first film, but it's his first live action film.

Dan: the first time he'd ever seen a film,

Sidey: and it obviously was problematic, that all the cast panned it. Megan Fox then later retracted and said that her performance in it was actually quite good. No one else's, but hers was good.

Reegs: That was a nice thing for her to say about herself, wasn't it?

Sidey: Mastodon did the score.

Reegs: Yeah. So what, heavy metal?

Sidey: Heavy, but not always. Yeah. It's not always heavy, but the battle sequences are quite heavy, as you'd expect. It's not good.

Dan: I didn't think it was as bad. Certainly Ghost Rider level, you

Reegs: Yeah. If we're pitching it somewhere, I quite enjoyed ... You know, I

Dan: Yeah. I mean, it was like,

Cris: the Nic Cage thing? Yeah. Oh yeah, that was good. That was all right.

Dan: It

Sidey: Okay. It was okay. But you

Dan: okay

Sidey: like, to me, the Westerns, they are famously in a particular place and time in the world, and when you try and make them into something else- Yeah you better do a good job of that, otherwise it just looks really bad.

Cris: So wait, have you ever seen... Sorry. Have you ever seen that thing with James Bond when he's a cowboy and he fights the aliens?

Reegs: Yeah, Cowboys and Aliens.

Cris: Have you seen that one?

Sidey: Yeah. I saw it at the cinema.

Cris: And is it that level?

Sidey: This is way worse

Cris: than that. Is it? Yeah, yeah. That wasn't great either.

Reegs: No,

Sidey: No. Harrison Ford and Daniel

Dan: don't ever remember seeing that one. But for me, this

Cris: was-

Dan: not great. Yeah. Certainly not. But it was short. There

Sidey: action- That's the best thing about it

Dan: There was Megan Fox who was looking smoking the way through. Josh Brolin was decent enough, like as the

Sidey: Oh, I think, I think if, if it was, if it was a lesser actor, this would've been a career

Dan: I like... Yeah, but I like him

Sidey: got enough about him- He's got enough about him- ... he was

Dan: got enough about him to, to make it, 'cause he's so handsome on the handsome side of his face

Reegs: And so horribly scarred on

Dan: ug- ugly on the, on the other side. I mean, 'cause you might- made you think, what the hell would Megan Fox be looking at, like... But he's just

Cris: tries- Well, she's a prozzie, no?

Dan: Yeah, but she, she wants to at one point, Make him- ... you know, run off with him ... his world. And he's just-

Cris: And cure it he

Dan: he doesn't

Sidey: that Even his face. 'Cause

Reegs: ruined. when, he eats, can you see through to his ... You can see through

Sidey: skull ... well, well, what I was gonna say was when you got Harvey Two-Face in Dark Knight- Yeah. Yeah ... like it's nowhere near as good as that.

Reegs: Okay.

Sidey: it's come on a lot since then. He essentially

Reegs: if he was having a,

Sidey: I think it's happened over- ... a patchy bit on his cheek, and then he has one strand where... It's where his mouth is, he has one strand of skin- Yeah ... coming. There's a little gap-

Dan: Just over the corner. So

Reegs: he was eating soup- out ...It would pour out the

Sidey: it would pour out the side. Like when you go- like when you've been to the dentist and they've frozen half of your mouth- Yeah ... and you have a drink and it kind of dribbles out. That's, yeah, that's what it'd be

Reegs: like. Okay. that Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: Which was, yeah, much how I watch this film really, just dribbling on one side. It wasn't... It certainly wasn't like something that I would say go and rush out and watch now. But

Reegs: Also, worst film ever seems a little bit extreme as well.

Dan: I, I think so. It's-

Sidey: top five worst I've seen for the pod.

Reegs: Wow. That is close to

Sidey: wanna watch a good Western revenge film, watch The Outlaw Josey Wales.

Dan: Yeah, well this isn't that. This is

Sidey: like- No, this is way better than that ... a

Dan: kind of,

Reegs: And the first c-season of Preacher- Style ... maybe if you wanna get Western, horror,

Sidey: Yeah ...If you wanna take a genre thing and make it a bit different, then Preacher's a good one.

Dan: But I'd not heard of this character before in DC.

Reegs: Johan

Dan: Johan Hex. Johan Hex. Yodelay-hee-hee. And I... Yeah, I'm not surprised they haven't rushed out with a, a sequel, but-

Sidey: I think it was probably a big floppy as well.

Dan: Well, was it? Yeah. Have you got the deets

Sidey: was 47 million reported production budget with a 10 and a half million pound return.

Dan: So all it lost was 30 odd million

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: that doesn't

Dan: Yeah, that doesn't include- You

Sidey: It was- ... marketing either,

Dan: You win some, you lose some, you lose some, you

Reegs: a lot. You win some and you lose some. So it's not better than True

Dan: It's not.

Sidey: Either version, no. Chris, do you think on the balance of what you've heard you will seek it out?

Cris: Probably, yeah.

Sidey: Strong recommend.