Nov. 17, 2023

Widows & Dinotrux

Widows & Dinotrux

In this week's chaotic symphony of opinions first impressions matter as we break down the Top 5 Opening Scenes in movie history. Whether the rest of the movie is a masterpiece or not, these scenes captured our attention from the outset. From Kevin Costner peeing into a cup and drinking it in the opening moments of WATERWORLD to the librarian from GHOSTBUSTERS to Michael’s first kill in HALLOWEEN, literally none of these movies are mentioned.

Five years after Steve McQueen’s 12 YEARS A SLAVE won best picture at the Oscars, the director returned with WIDOWS (2018) which tells the story of four women with nothing in common except a debt left behind by their spouses’ criminal activities. Hoping to forge a future on their own terms, they join forces to pull off a heist. Seeing well established genre tropes handled by a great cast and a serious director is a delight and I think it’s interesting that this feels closest to artful crime movies like HEAT and THIEF, because those are movies obsessed with masculinity whereas this one is obviously about femininity. One thing that’s noticeable is there’s no macho competition between them like there would be if men were involved. I haven't been able to stop thinking about that shot with the camera mounted on the exterior of the car as Jack Mulligan rants and raves since I saw it.
 
We finish things up with a look at DreamWorks TV's DINOTRUX. The series premiere introduces the basic premise of the show: in a prehistoric world, dinosaurs and trucks evolved into intelligent hybrid creatures called Dinotrux, who live in different regions and have differing abilities. Ty Rux, a friendly and heroic Tyrannosaurus Trux, sets out with the noble aim of creating a more egalitarian society by uniting the various species of Dinotrux to work in harmony, foiling the plans of the villainous D-Structs along the way. While it’s tempting to decry the concept (construction vehicles that are also dinosaurs - a fact which somehow almost bypassed Cris) as derivative, gimmicky and purposefully ripe for merchandising opportunities, there are attempts to provide more substance as the show teaches viewers to explore the world around them, think creatively, and use their brains to engineer solutions to problems. The designs are imaginative, and the animation gives the characters a real weight. The vocal work is mostly excellent though I hate the ubiquity of the surfer dude voice. As ever it's the existential questions about these worlds which make the most fun to discuss, for example what is the life-cycle of a Trux? Are they functionally immortal in a Theseus's Ship type way if they have enough spare parts to repair themselves with? And if they’re made of complex robotic parts and sophisticated gears and whatnot which they can understand and use to repair themselves and each other when needed, then why does it take them so long to figure out how to build something as simple as a bridge? Probably best not to ask.

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Widows

Reegs: Welcome to Bad Dad's Film Review, the podcast which proves that while fatherhood may have robbed us of sleep, hair and dignity, it can't take away our passion for movies. Each week we review a classic movie that we never got around to watching, as well as a kids show that we wish we could probably unwatch.

I'm one of your co host Reegs, and joining me this week like a floppy disk in a USB world is Dan, who's so old he thinks TikTok is the sound a clock makes. We've got resident eye candy, Chris, who's so handsome that he makes George Clooney look like Danny DeVito. And we also have amateur taxidermist, Sidey, who's brought along some of his latest work for us.

I wonder if you could, you know, show us that please, Sidey.

Sidey: I have this one.

Dan: one Ah!

Reegs: That is quite an abomination. Tentacles and wings. That is

Sidey: I have actually got a book of bad taxidermy. Alright. It's very good. Yeah. It's very entertaining, yeah.

Reegs: In this week's Chaotic Symphony of Opinions, first impressions matter as we break down the top five opening scenes in movie history. Before we move on to chat about the 2018 Steve McQueen action thriller Widows.

And then because we're gluttons for punishment, and because my youngest insisted, we'll wrap things up with a riveting discussion on Netflix animated series Dino Trucks. Now, quick disclaimer. Truth be told, this podcast is not for the faint hearted. We may even swear from time to time, and if we can remember the movies we're talking about, we'll probably spoil them.

So if you're easily offended or want your viewing to remain virginal, then please switch off now. For everyone else, let's get on with it. Riggs,

Sidey: Alright. Riggs how's the health?

You've been away on your sickbed for a while. Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah, I had an enforced period of just watching stuff, so I did watch a lot of things.

Sidey: then. Let's, let's have it.

Reegs: Well, John Wick 4, I

Sidey: think?

Reegs: yeah, okay, go on. So, 2 hours 49 minutes, I know what you're thinking, it's not long enough, but it was yeah, absolutely amazing. It's the best of the sequels in Really? Yeah, in my opinion, yeah, it

Sidey: Oh wow, I didn't like it. John Wick

Reegs: that is the official

Sidey: release. I didn't like it as much as 3.

Reegs: Yeah, no it's amazing.

Just unbelievable. And just a triumph. Yeah.

Cris: the, the, the stairs, the, the Sacré Cœur?

Reegs: Yeah. Loved it. Yeah. Yeah. And that scene out the arc to triumphant. Yeah. Loved it. Loved it. Loved it. All amazing. Well, but it is ridiculous at that point. I mean, he's using his suit to fight, you know.

Cris: No, I know, but that's what I mean. It's just like he gets three steps to the top, then he goes all the way, rolls all the way down and then goes back again. It's just like, come on, mate.

Reegs: come on, mate. Yeah, if you're gonna have loads of steps, why is that somebody not gonna fall down the ball? And the guy actually did it. The stuntman actually did it, he threw himself down all those steps, so, yeah,

Sidey: play to him.

Cris: well done.

Reegs: And the scene outside the the roundabout was just incredible.

Just,

Cris: Oh, the Art of the Triumph, yeah.

Reegs: unbelievable. And Avatar, Way of Water, because so that, that was also long and that felt long. But I didn't pan it like everybody else

Sidey: I'm not saying anything, so I can't actually comment.

Cris: I've not seen that either.

Reegs: And then a load of horror films, Censor on film four, that was pretty good. And Talk to Me, that was another good one.

Sidey: Seeing those, Dan?

Dan: No, no, I don't think I will. Unless they're, unless forced to on here. I watched Ted Lasso.

Sidey: Oh, you're still

Dan: A little bit of that, yeah. Plugging away at that. It's good. Enjoy that. Yeah. And not much else, actually. The, the movie this week, though.

Sidey: We finished off Harry Potter and I watched loads of, like, nonsense YouTube stuff, but I think...

Oh, and I finished Loki, that's right, did I? I binged that on Friday night. Did

Reegs: you enjoy that?

Sidey: that? Yes, but I was a bit confused, I was like, is that, is that it now, for Loki?

Reegs: I don't know. Who knows? But it just was good.

Sidey: Yeah, I'm like you, I hated Victor Timely, he was so irritating.

Reegs: he was really annoying and I nearly bailed on the whole, not didn't bail on it because I was in in it, but the last two episodes were top quality TV and yeah, enjoyed that

Sidey: that.

Dan: yeah, okay. We did actually watch The Last Bus.

Sidey: Not

Dan: Not, not to the end. We're on episode 7, 8 now, I

Sidey: I think. So, we've

Dan: we've got two or three to go.

Cris: Didn't really watch. I've

Sidey: Oh, you were away, you were, you were like touring Europe with Newcastle

Cris: I went to Germany to watch Newcastle play and lose in the Champions League.

But so I didn't really watch much. I've watched I've actually watched on the plane, three episodes of a series called the serpent on Netflix.

Sidey: Oh,

Dan: Oh, is that the, it's

Cris: the 80s Thailand kind

Dan: Yeah. He's, he's

Cris: based on a real guy who allegedly drugged and killed loads of hippies and tourists in Thailand in the 80s.

Reegs: What, serial

Dan: Yeah. yes,

Reegs: All right.

Cris: It's it's quite cool. Actually, the first three episodes are quite interesting. I think it's 10. Episodes are eight all together. I've only watched three of them. I finished the Beckham thing. Finally, the Beckham documentary. I watched the last episode, which was a bit meh, but it's all right. It was good.

Nothing. I didn't learn anything that I've never learned before or I didn't knew before. And I watched a movie with the Wonder Woman. She's another. Yes, Gal Gadot, she is Heart of Stone or something like that.

Reegs: Is that any good?

I wanted to watch that.

Cris: I mean, she kills everyone, it's good, yeah. She's not, she doesn't get naked, which is a bit annoying.

But it's, it's alright, it's alright. I mean, it's an action film where she's a spy and a counter spy and all that. It was alright. I have to say, since my condition this summer, I forget. Things really easily. So I couldn't really tell you much of what happened and, but it was good. It was all right. It, it's not, not an extraordinary movie, but it was All right.

It's

Sidey: Has anyone seen Gen V?

Reegs: Yeah, watched all of that.

Sidey: Yeah. I've got the last episode to go, but I caught a partial spoiler online. It's annoying. I've, Yeah. I've been really enjoying it. Yeah. I like that it's in the boys. It's a

Dan: yeah, okay. I watched the first episode where you get that bathroom scene with her mum and dad. that the right way? Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Yeah.

Reegs: also highly highly recommended for tv is the fall of the house of usher. That is absolutely peak on netflix and bodies as well.

Sidey: Oh Steve,

Reegs: steven graham

Dan: What was the fall of the House of Asher

Reegs: It's an Edgar Allan Poe sort of adaptation by Mike Flanagan who did like, a load of other horror adaptations and it was part of, yeah, it's just great. It's like gothic horror story loads of great actors in it. Yeah, very much enjoyed that. And bodies was really good as well.

Sidey: Cool. We didn't do a top five last week, did we? We

Reegs: bend it because of the storm.

Sidey: I think that it was too close to another topic. And I didn't put out a message about this one so we'll do that after the recording and we will learn about the audience's opinions about great opening scenes because that's what we're gonna talk about.

Yeah. Did you do it?

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Riggs, was it our main features opening scene that inspired this?

Reegs: scene that inspired this? Gets your attention you know, the rest of it could be shit, could be a masterpiece. It doesn't matter. Let's just talk about those first

Sidey: talk about those first scenes. Yeah,

Reegs: Yeah, yeah, it does tend to be that way, but I've got a few there.

Sidey: got a few there.

Reegs: I was going to start with what movie has a great opening probably, is it really bad to go with like Tarantino first?

I was going to go with Reservoir Dogs debut movie. The first scene, Mr. Pink doesn't tip Madonna and blowjobs, all of them sitting around in the,

Sidey: It's seven or eight minutes then just talking in the cafe and it doesn't really advance the plot in any way or do anything other than just.

Reegs: in any

Sidey: Tarantino dialogue, you know, that's it.

Reegs: other than just... yeah,

Cris: Yeah. Snatch. The opening scene where it's like, this is Turkish, this is all that. I kind of enjoy that. This is the gun, whatever. Tommy, he was named after a gun, but he was named after

Reegs: Yeah, you get a quick tour through all of the... Yeah, out

Cris: of, for everyone. So, I, I... You don't really get that at the beginning of a movie.

To get the whole person and... The name, or the nickname, or whatever, and it's good that they also, almost all of them have a nickname. So you kind of get through all of them before the movie starts. Normally you'll get a movie and they don't get introduced,

Reegs: Yeah. So you get an introduction to all the main characters. Yeah.

Cris: so for me that was quite cool, and to be a British movie makes it even better.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: Nice. Yeah. Well, I've got one of those films where it opens with characters you don't actually see for the rest of the, the film. And it's a couple going skinny, dipping, going down onto the beach.

Do you know what it is?

Sidey: Jaws?

Dan: Yeah, yeah, that's it. So they're running out onto

Sidey: decides not to go in? Great

Dan: Great decision. He can't be bothered but the woman does and Oh, she's having fun and come in and boom. You know,

Reegs: It's all suspense and obviously you don't see

Dan: thing.

Sidey: like, just this scene is what terrifies you about going in the sea ever since. And they, so they tied,

Reegs: when she looks so vulnerable when she's swimming and she's shot from below as it's the cameras coming up.

Sidey: they tied a rope to her. Or maybe a couple of ropes and then just like

Reegs: Thrashed her around.

Sidey: and it like nearly crippled her like really injured her quite badly But suffered for her art

Dan: it, it looked like that, didn't it?

Because it was, it was a,

Sidey: was watching something and there they were describing Survivors of shark attacks what it feels like and it does feel like someone's pulled you, you know like just like from below because it's it's so

Dan: Your leg's

Sidey: Yeah, any of the adrenaline everything you don't feel it straight away and then you look down like oh

Reegs: I've lost

Sidey: gonna show that's gonna be painful.

Yeah, I tried to tee you up with my opening segue with getting the ball rolling

Reegs: Oh, yeah.

Sidey: which was the Raiders of the Lost

Reegs: Course it was, yeah.

Sidey: Where Indy is he has that great long sequence where they go into this temple to retrieve this artifact and he has to go through all these booby

Reegs: The blowpipes, is

Sidey: Yeah, he has to you know whip his way across a thingy and then there's this.

Idol thing on a platform, which he does the old swopperoo with a bag of sand And that just sets off the biggest booby trap of all, which is the ball that follows him as he has to then Not carefully avoid the traps, just fucking sprint Memorably get his hat and put that back on and get out where he's just Oh, I think probably like arguably like the best sequence in all the Indiana Jones films

Reegs: Yeah, it

Cris: seen the most recent one?

Sidey: Have you seen the most recent one? It's not great.

Reegs: great. Dial of Destiny. I haven't seen it. I'm quite excited to...

Sidey: Well, I'll say no more. But that was really fucking cool.

Reegs: I'm going to hit you up with just a classic one, two straight away. I've got train spotting to choose life that whole monologue and rent and running down the street all the energy and

Sidey: pauses isn't it every so often and he's on the car bonnet as he gets run over. Yeah. Like laughing at

Reegs: exactly. Yeah, it's crazy. And, you know, we get a little glimpse into their world and who they are just through this great opening. And also, how about the Dawn of Man from 2001? How about that for an intro?

Sidey: because that's. That's not an opening scene. That's like extended. It's probably 20 odd minutes. It's something like that. Oh, I love it.

Reegs: You got it on, is it included, do you think, because it is pretty much the whole scene

Sidey: it's a continuous thing. It doesn't break for anything. And it just culminates with them, you know, hitting. Well, there's there's the monolith but they hit the Bone onto another bone it flips up in the air and you've not seen barbie, but you must see the trailer Where they take they take it off with the barbie doors.

It's fucking brilliant. It's so good

Reegs: Gonna do that on the some point. I still haven't seen it. So, yeah, there's two big ones gone straight away. Chris?

Cris: straight away. Okay. I've got a movie that we did recently fairly recently on the Pod, Sicario. Yeah. I really like the opening scene on that one when...

The agents, the FBI agents, Emily Blunt and the, the other British guy,

Reegs: Daniel Kluwer, was it? It's not, no, is

Cris: he's in the main

Reegs: He was in Widows, Daniel Kluwer, it was

Cris: And they kind of go to this abandoned house and they kind of see through, open the walls up pretty much. And they find all

Sidey: them to open the walls? I can't remember.

Reegs: can't remember.

He fires a shotgun at this, and it, that's when he sees them, Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. He shot. He shoots. Someone should know the, the Mexicans shoot at

Reegs: at her,

Cris: Blunt at her and then there's a hole in the wall and yeah, they look in the wall and I have to say that was pretty cool for and it's filmed quite dark and it's really, really cool how it is and I've got a second one. Which is a movie called We Own The Night with Joaquin Phoenix and Eva Mendes.

And I have to say it's a really cool opening scene because he's a nightclub manager. He manages his nightclub. He's got a kind of like a man cave looking room in the back. And he is at a party with Eva Mendes and they just have sex at the beginning of the movie and it's epic. So, I've, I've... Couldn't delete that memory

Sidey: have you seen The Mule? Did you hear us talk about The Mule?

Cris: The Clint Eastwood

Reegs: I watched that. not watched it.

Sidey: Okay, alright, cool. So, just talking about Sicario and I'm like, that's the cartel shit, that's like propaganda. Yeah. I mean, obviously the meal is a true story, like, but they just, it's like a very

Dan: sanitized, they, they, yeah, they soften it, don't they? Can you remember the the start Saturday Night Fever? You got Travolta just strutting down the street, tin of Paint.

Reegs: I mean, you think about

Dan: know, the collars out and to staying alive.

The drip was

Reegs: Yeah. But it's, it's not right.

It's not that kind of movie though. I

Dan: No. It's quite

Reegs: in

Dan: Yeah. It's quite a dark movie. Of stuff. But the, as an opening scene, you know, everybody walking down the street, suddenly we're just singing that song in their head, you know, collar go out a little bit more and it's got that beat, isn't it?

Boom. I won't, but yeah. Great. Scene.

Sidey: How about horror movie?

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah?

Dan: no.

Sidey: This is a you must have seen this, Scream, I'm thinking

Reegs: Oh, yeah.

Sidey: Drew Barrymore answering the telephone. Probably should let that go to the voicemail. Because she's asked a bunch of questions

Reegs: you like scary movies?

Sidey: Yeah. And she's given a test, which she trips up on the,

Reegs: It's like a little variation on, I think when a stranger calls is the one, you know, there's a strange, you know, there's a killer in your house type thing and the phone call and all that. And she's the biggest star in it. And then

Sidey: She gets Jason, no, it's Jason isn't it? No, it's the mother is the killer in the first film.

Reegs: in this one it's Matthew Lillard and someone else, I think the

Sidey: he's got a funny old name, the other dude but she tries to run away. Like you say, she's the star that you know is in the film. I don't know if they did that as a nod to Psycho.

With Vivian Leigh because she gets the same thing and she's the one who's off first. But she's running, it's quite a good kill because she's running towards you, the viewer, and Ghostface catches her and stabs her in the gut I think it is a few times, and she's screaming away, it's great.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: away, it's

Sidey: series. Yeah, I do as well.

Reegs: I think my main can handle one little girl. The Matrix,

Sidey: yeah, Trinity

Reegs: is a great opening, you know, just conveys all this astonishing information about this world and what you're gonna see, you know, in...

Dan: was just floating. I don't know whether that

Sidey: Well, I think she's making a call, isn't she? It's

Dan: But, yeah, when they

Sidey: like a standard sort of policeman or security guard approaches her and she just

Reegs: There's two or three of them, isn't it? Yeah,

Sidey: She does this pause thing in midair and you're like, what the

Reegs: going on? I don't know what this is, but it's amazing.

Yeah.

Sidey: So fucking hot. Yeah, it's

Dan: Woolen leathers and shit. Yeah.

Reegs: And then, not quite so... Did anybody see the Jet Li movie, The One? It's like, it's one of those multiverse type movies, but they only had 125 versions. So he has to fight 125 versions of himself each time getting, like, stronger or whatever. And in the first, it's a terrible, terrible movie by and large.

But the big, the first sort of five minutes has this sequence where he beats up a load of security guards to, like, heavy new metal or whatever. Like in a really noughties way, it's great, it's sort of very Matrix inspired, I strongly recommend.

Cris: I've got the opening scene from No Country for Old Men.

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: Do you know what

Reegs: Chigga, with Anton Chigga. Yeah,

Cris: when he, when the sheriff kind of gets him into the car and then he kind of dispatches in,

Sidey: is that with this gas

Cris: Yeah, he's got the gas canister

Reegs: It's isn't it a thing they use in an abattoir,

Cris: yeah,

Sidey: the, yes, that's right.

Yeah.

Cris: they kill the animals in the abattoirs, but

Sidey: bulk gun.

Reegs: yeah.

Cris: Yeah, but it's like a sheriff. He's got this. I found this guy with barefoot and he's got this kind of machine. And then the guy's like, can you can you can you hold still? It just puts that in his, you know, it's it's I always remember that. And he's he plays it so well. Have you heard about them when he's just so creepy?

Yeah, we're

Reegs: Talk about, I mean, that's, we're saying that's a good beginning to a film. What about the end to that film as

Sidey: well? Well, it really

Reegs: we do that. Yeah. I didn't know what to think when I watched it the first time. It was thinking.

Cris: loved it,

Reegs: I did love it, but it took a while to love it.

If you know what I

Cris: it if you know what I mean. Yes, because it's so, so strange.

And his character in that movie is just

Dan: he flips the coin, the guy goes, you know, that was it, wasn't it? Heads or tails, could be your lucky day, might not be.

Reegs: Amazing haircut

Cris: as Well, well Um, did

Dan: Well, did we mention Stanley Kubrick yet?

Reegs: 2001.

Dan: 2001. Oh, of course, yeah. Another

Sidey: got another one. Clockwork Orange. The Korova Milk Bar. It... Zooms in.

Reegs: Yep.

Sidey: isn't it? And goes right up to his eye. But all the while you get this setup of where they're having a drink and they're drinking milk and it's dispensed in a very odd way. And the bar itself is just fucking weird. It's got graffiti sort of written on the wall, which I think just about everything on there has become a band's name.

Over the years. Campak Vela Set is on there and it just sets the. Scene of this bizarre dystopian futuristic universe. it's very cool and the language that he's he's narrating it. Alex is is giving us this thing about droogs and all this nonsense

Dan: all this. Not, you know, not that long ago. And even now looking at the sets and everything, it's just so sleek and smooth, it still works, you know, it's still just so well thought through. I always like a film with starts off with a belt in tune.

And the sound of music did that, you know. Julie Andrews, it's an all time great, you know, geez, you know, that's

Sidey: It's nuts.

Dan: And all is the nuts but also the Lion King, you know circular

Reegs: life, that's

Dan: out the block boom, you know if it

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: that's it. There's they're hard

Reegs: many times did you hold your

Dan: yeah,

Reegs: if you were...

Dan: the, like

Sidey: Literally climb up a mountain to do it as well. Another one with a banging tune right at the start. And it's actually an opening montage.

Dan: Ah.

Sidey: Like of newsreel stuff, human traffic. It starts with Clips from the news of the criminal justice bill and John Simms character getting ready to go out and tear it up and it's Fatboy Slim's build it up, tear it down, absolute fucking tune.

Dan: chinch. What was the the puppet one? That we watched and laughed at so

Sidey: Team America?

Dan: America. There's an opening there as

Sidey: well. up Paris?

Dan: they Yeah.

Reegs: How about Oh, sorry, were you finished

Sidey: yeah, I'm done, yeah.

Reegs: Joker robbing a bank in the Dark Knight? Yeah,

Sidey: I was going to say that one, and or the third, Dark Knight Rises, with the plane.

Reegs: prefer the Joker, I

Sidey: that's really, really top top.

Reegs: Just a great introduction to a great character. What about your Bond fans? What about Goldeneye? Is that, wait, is that Brosnan with the dam? I'm thinking that's what I want.

Cris: Yeah, I

Sidey: That's Goldeneye, yeah.

Reegs: on the Dam, that's, that's a

Dan: creepy. Yeah, I watched that just recently actually, last few

Sidey: Goldfinger has a good one as well. He's in the, a proper tuxedo, the white jacket. And everything's blowing up behind him. It's really cool.

Reegs: don't remember.

Sidey: And Casino Royale is good as well. You guys, you guys, I've edited that

Reegs: Did you enjoy that? That was alright? Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah. Chris?

Cris: Last one for the day is Burn After Reading, the opening scene when John Malkovich, you just have his heels walking on the, on the, and it's just like tick, tick, tick, and he enters the room and he finds out that he's fired from the agency.

And he, he has a bit of a meltdown in the office and then I...

Reegs: Cohen Brothers. Yeah. It's funny.

Cris: Yeah, it's really funny. Really funny. And I know I put two Coen brothers, like,

Sidey: You can never have too many Coen brothers.

Reegs: No, that's all right.

Cris: Oh No Country for Old Men and this one as an opening scene, but honestly, I really, really like this movie and I thought it was so

Reegs: it is really

Cris: And Brad

Reegs: Brad Pitt's

Cris: for once, Not the cool, like, hot, sexy guy or whatever, he's just like a, yeah, and a bit of a nerd as well, he's just like, funny.

So yeah, that I thought it was really, really good. And that's it from

Dan: I was just thinking of there will be blood I'd like to see that again, actually,

Sidey: I've never seen it, so

Dan: have you not know.

So it's, it's like it starts off with 20 minutes and no dialogue. It's just Daniel Day Lewis digging and you know, just being Daniel Day Lewis, but compelling, you know, in all he does. And yeah, that's that's quite an opening kind of dark with just this, this one kind of scene on, on the guy. I think that's pretty much me done, and I could go on forever actually, but I mean,

Sidey: I'll just wrap up with a couple more. One of my favourites is Drive. Ryan Gosling starts off showing you what he's all about. There's probably as much dialogue in this opening sequence as there is in the rest of the movie. He explains to whoever he's... with on this job that they get five minutes.

And after that, he's out and he picks these guys up and then you see him doing his getaway thing. No,

Reegs: But it's amazing, and it's not like you've seen in other movies really the way he does it, because he's often stops and

Sidey: kind of controlling this, the, the score on the radio, he turns it down. So you get the engine noise and it's almost grand theft auto. Like he's Pulling in and watching the police helicopter go by and then goes out and, you know, drives next to some similar cars and then Eventually ends up with him pulling into a parking lot Or a multi story car park if you prefer.

Putting on that iconic fucking bomber jacket and walking out cool as fuck. I fucking love Ryan

Reegs: Yeah, the

Sidey: such a fucking cool film. We talk about Inglourious Basterds, that scene, a fucking lot, so I won't bore you with that. The opening... Scene of gravity.

Reegs: wish I'd seen

Sidey: I'd seen that on the IMAX or any sort of big screen.

I saw on my telly and that's where they're doing the repairs to the thingy Clooney and Bullock and

Cris: and the... The debris

Sidey: and the debris comes out of nowhere and just obliterates it um and then and then you get the whole thing of her trying to get back home. Very cool and Dan you mentioned before we were recording about Goodfellas.

Dan: Yeah, of course, yeah,

Sidey: In the car, they're in the car chatting away and you can hear some sort of banging in the background and they're looking around.

Dan: And it goes into like the stones, painted

Sidey: they pull over I fucking see this guy off. I think they just shoot him, do they? And then Henry Hill said, Ever since I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster.

That's right, yeah. And, and it, that goes into the great soundtrack. Fucking, fucking cool. Yeah. Very good.

Reegs: I've got some honorable mentions as well.

How about the Star Destroyer from A New Hope and maybe The Crawl. I don't know if that counts. Rosebud from Citizen Kane. LIfe of a Bullet sequence from Lord of War, which was a Nick Cage movie about Ukrainian arms dealer. it's pretty good. And the beginning bit is talks about how this one particular bullet was.

It goes through the entire manufacturing process of like how the metal is, where it's claim comes from, and all the way through the production until it's loaded in this guy's, you know, how it's shipped and into this particular gun until it's shot and fires and kills this particular

Cris: Yeah.

Reegs: It's a great little

Cris: is it that in that movie that that guy, like a, like a warlord in Africa somewhere is like, Oh, this is Rambo's gun. bought Rambo's gun. Yeah. Yeah. It's brilliant. Yeah. I really liked that actually.

Reegs: The London outbreak in 28 weeks or 20, yeah. 28 weeks later, you know, when London was completely

Sidey: 28 days

Reegs: days later. That's what I want. 28 days later.

Yeah. The blood shower in blade

Cris: Oh yeah.

Reegs: white house. Thing in X two. Do remember that

Sidey: Oh, Nightcrawler?

Reegs: Yeah. Night crawler in the White House. And I did have one last one, memento. Is he shooting at me or am I shooting at him?

Sidey: Ooh,

Reegs: for?

Oh. Bly Me. I am gonna go for, uh, I am gonna go for Jaws. There you go. jaws

Cris: Anton sugar no country for old man

Dan: for Jaws. There you go, Anton Sugar,

Sidey: Busting into his,

Dan: for old

Sidey: The tumbleweed,

Dan: Yeah, the tumbleweed and, and a robe, and he's just getting, yeah, milk for his half and half white Russian, isn't he? He's just drinking around there. I'll put, I'll put in a little bit of Lebowski.

Sidey: bin. That'll be good. Hmm, Ooh, I'm gonna put in Saving Private Ryan. Oh, good one. The, the assault

Reegs: It's not actually, the first scene is actually...

Sidey: Okay, well fuck that off then, cause I don't like, that's one I don't actually like the rest of the film.

I'm putting in Drive.

Reegs: Drive. Perfect. Lovely.

Sidey: And then we'll complete the list next week.

Reegs: next

Sidey: Last week, we had cheese. Pete threatened to be here tonight, and there'd been a cheese incident, and we were supposed to, the way Pete sold it to us, have cheese

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: Pete's not here, so that's the good bit of the story. There's no cheese.

Cris: That's the bad. Yeah. He's, he's bottled it and

Sidey: He gave some flimsy thing about, oh, if you want the leftover cheese from last week, so we'd have to go to your house to get it.

Unless

Cris: also cheese from last week, unless he has a cheese cave.

Sidey: he doesn't have a

Dan: He doesn't

Cris: I don't know, he just kept it in the

Sidey: Empty

Dan: fridge. Empty promises. Empty

Sidey: So we did, we had a couple of bags of confectionery, we had some marshmallows and some mawum, but they're gone.

Dan: is, which is good for Mars, but typical Pete. typical Pete. Terrible.

Sidey: in the catalog of letdowns. Yeah. So I suppose all that remains for now is to just get on with the review of the film.

Reegs: Yeah.

Dan: Sorry

Reegs: Set aside the disappoint Pete's

Sidey: crushing low. Yeah.

Reegs: And concentrate on this week's movie! Widows! reLeased in 2018. Director Steve McQueen had a...

Oscar winner 12 years a slave, um, and he followed it up, I think five years later with this which was adapted from a 1983 miniseries written by Linda LaPlante. She did Prime Suspect and some people like, I haven't seen that, but I know it's a smash

Dan: Yeah, it is.

Yeah

Sidey: Yeah, this was a BBC thing, wasn't

Reegs: Yeah, originally. Yeah. And then it

Cris: this movie? Yeah.

Reegs: then it

Sidey: a miniseries

Cris: Oh, right,

Reegs: Yeah. 1983 miniseries. And it was adapted by McQueen and the writer of Gone Girl, Gillian Flynn. Do you remember Gone Girl that we did for the pod? So that's who brought us this. And we start with some serious French kissing. Yeah.

Sidey: There was tongue. a

Dan: time.

Reegs: A lot of kissy, kissy, kiss, kiss. And Really it's a real montage of information as we're introduced to all this, I love this actually, it's a great opening scene because there's a real economy of storytelling and as we're told a lot of information very quickly, a heist occurring with Liam Neeson and Jon Bernthal escaping, the back doors of a van being blown off as it's interspersed with quiet character moments, we learn about the relationship between Veronica and Harry.

Who is Liam Neeson's character, and Elizabeth Debicki, I can't remember.

Cris: Viola Davis.

Reegs: Well, the other character, what was her name? Alice

Sidey: and Linda is Michelle Rodriguez. We have her down as a Linda, but anyway.

Reegs: No, not so much but Alice is shown to be in an abusive relationship It's all shown in like really very quick

Dan: Yeah, it is, yeah.

Reegs: as it's intercut with this heist gone wrong and Yeah, so all of the main characters Linda are sort of put upon wife and Amanda, who barely features in the plot, except

Sidey: key

Reegs: except at key moments, and Alice in this abusive relationship at this heist goes dreadfully wrong, it culminates in, they go to this garage, and we see the, Basically one of the guys has been shot, John Bernthal's character, and,

Sidey: yeah, they they they pull up don't they and they're either going to change vehicle or

Reegs: There's some,

Sidey: in there and there's, they've got this big sort of garage door that starts to open and there's a SWAT team or several SWAT, there's a lot of vehicles and armed officers waiting for them and as it opens someone shoots first and they open, the SWAT team open fire and obliterate this van and it fucking explodes big time.

Reegs: everybody's killed straight away, so you're like, okay, Liam Neeson,

Dan: Well, I was thinking at one point that it was going to go right into the police cars because it kept on

Sidey: right into the police cars, because it kept on

Reegs: But perhaps it's not all as simple as it's being portrayed. We see Veronica after that, I think, waking up alone, don't we?

Sidey: We see Veronica after up

Reegs: So you are, you're sort of upset straight away because you, you think this movie's gonna be about this crew of highly skilled, you know, guys going about this heist and

Dan: didn't because it's called Widows so I didn't but yeah, I know what you mean in a normal world that

Reegs: well, it's, it is about the people who are left behind now after all

Dan: Straight away though. It's into it quick, isn't it? You're you're brought up to speed all their relationships up to that point the job that went bad and now the grieving and the the You know the recovery from from what's going on because it doesn't take too too long.

 And there's money problems

Sidey: Well, yeah, they, these guys hadn't been, you know, squirreling away money for a rainy day. They you know, there was quite a lot of money owed, in fact. Yeah.

Cris: Yeah. especially the Mexican guy was not very friendly.

Dan: Well, he seemed to be gambling all his money Yeah.

Sidey: this

Cris: Because that's all we get. We get the grief from Veronica and then the aftermath for the other ladies. So the blonde one is going to live with her mom.

Reegs: Yep.

Sidey: Immediately, she's pushing

Reegs: Immediately she's pushing her into a, yeah, meeting men online.

Cris: it's called an escort.

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: Yes, I think we all know what that means but veronica, she's got a driver.

Reegs: Yeah. Bash.

Sidey: Who says? Oh, I was told to give this to you. If anything ever happened Yeah, Yeah,

Reegs: anything ever happens. Disabled friend of Harry's, her husband, and he, the key is to open a lockbox that contains a a notebook. Meanwhile we're introduced to Jack Mulligan.

Colin Farrell, he's running as Alderman, so I can't, because of Athletico Mintz, if you don't listen to that podcast, it doesn't make any sense, but

Sidey: sense. The Alderman,

Reegs: the Alderman, yeah, they've just made that word ridiculous, but anyway, he's running for the Alderman for the 18th ward,

Sidey: 80s?

Dan: The old one?

Sidey: It's just some

Reegs: just, it's just an obscure, it's like an ombudsman, it's not that, but it's like a silly word of an officious position, but.

Sidey: being silly. Yeah,

Reegs: yeah, exactly. Anyway, he has gone to me, he's, he's a sort of, he's running for this political position and he goes to meet his rival who's played by Brian Tyree Henning, Jamal Manning. And he's got Jamal, he's introduced. Sort of like talking about what he's going to do for the community, and he's got these big sad eyes, and you think he's going to be the hero of the piece, but pretty quickly he's established not to be, so just like the script misdirects you like that, and they have this conversation, Jack and Jamal, and he's trying to get him to pull out the race and applying the pressure and it's because this election is coming up in just a few days time, I

Cris: few days time I think.

It's kind of the white guys trying to put pressure on the black guy. He's the kind of white family to generational older man, whatever his dad was, his granddad was, he's trying to tell him when the guy's like, well, you don't inherit it, but his nepotism is not illegal, all that stuff. And then at the end Jack Mulligan leaves and then the two brothers are left because that's.

What the plot is, is the two brothers are left in the church and the guy is like, you know how much one of these people is getting paid? It's 120 grand a year. We get that in a week. And then now you kind of think, hold on a minute. They're not really,

Sidey: he just stares at the, the aide, the assistant. And he's he's like, trying to intimidate her or whatever. And he's, yeah, he's a pretty scary dude actually.

Cris: So, yeah, after that, they...

Reegs: your expectations again, being slightly, you know, off put all the way through as the script likes to do with you, they have the, they bury the husbands, don't they?

And that's where Viola, Viola Davis's character Veronica meets. Jack, and it becomes clear that Jack and her husband had a connection.

Cris: Yeah, he was like, anytime you need anything, just let me know. Anything, whatever.

Reegs: And also, Jamal and, what's his name? Chetem.

Dan: Yeah, They're watching.

Reegs: watching.

Dan: Yeah, he sticks his kind of bright pink chewing gum on this grave kind of stone,

Sidey: the most heinous thing he does in the

Dan: no, but yeah, it's

Sidey: pretty much straight away after this we get his first of execution.

Dan: Yeah. Like

Reegs: Well, first we get Jamal, he goes to visit Veronica, doesn't he? Yes,

Cris: straight to her house, at the

Reegs: to her house, and bursts in, and he grabs the dog in a really kind of threatening

Sidey: Right, so this was problematic. There's lots of scenes of this fucking dog, and every time it was on screen, my dog went fucking mental. They're like, will you shut up? They're like, just really annoying.

Reegs: It looks like it's being handled in quite an

Sidey: There's one particular bit where he's got it by the scruff of the neck and he's like shaking it like, Is that a prop dog?

Reegs: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, so he's there saying that Harry stole two million. That's what the the heist was at the beginning of the movie that went wrong.

Dan: But it's okay. It's okay. She's got a month to come up with it.

Cris: but he's he's, not, he's not

Reegs: It's two weeks.

Cris: though.

Dan: weeks is the deadline

Reegs: weeks is the deadline I think he gives

Dan: gives

Cris: End of the month, yeah, yeah.

Dan: the month, Yeah.

Reegs: and this is when Linda's house and all that gets repossessed and all this. So, we get essentially Veronica... After she's got the notebook, she kind of calls the band back together, doesn't she? She, gets in contact with them. Is this where she gets them in the sauna?

Cris: Well, she first, she first go, gets the bash to take her to the guy in the wheelchair. And to, because she finds the matchbox and she's like, take me to this place. And you can see the guy looking at the matchbox and it's like. Okay, this is a bit weird, but all right. So he takes her there. She tries to sell the notebook and the guy's like, listen, the people that I know, they want nothing to do with that.

They want nothing to do with your husband. This is my world. You don't want to get involved in

Sidey: he says something about the chairs and said I didn't end up in this

Cris: Yeah. I was like, I was a debt and he's like, I got

Sidey: I didn't end up in the chair but from the military or something like that as if I got fucking done over That's how I

Cris: I ended up in this wheelchair because of a debt as well. So don't get involved in this, just pay what you owe or whatever. And then she goes away. And then we get to the next scene.

Reegs: Yeah, which starts with these two guys beatboxing in a cupboard kind of thing.

I, I assume they've been placed there because of their disgrace. They've clearly fucked up a mission. There's a very uneasy atmosphere as they're like led out of this. box where they're beatboxing into this gymnasium. I like, it's just such a great scene. Daniel Kaluuya is so menacing because he's probably the shortest guy in there by about six, six inches.

And he's the most intimidating guy in there by a, by a mile. He's reading a book, I think as he comes in. And,

Sidey: I think they'd been, they'd been rapping or whatever, and been distracted, and they'd been robbed or whatever.

They'd lost some money or some drugs or

Cris: that's the money that has been stolen, the two million dollars, and it was like they were outside beatboxing while...

Sidey: says, show me what you were doing. And they kind of look at him and say, fucking show me. And then, while they're doing it, he gets right in their face.

I mean, right, right. As close

Reegs: as you can get. And he's sort

Sidey: He starts to vibe with it a bit. And then... Gun.

Reegs: He shoots one guy in the face and he tells the other guy to run, and as he runs off, he shoots him in the back. . It's fucking like,

Sidey: Like it ain't no thing. What

Reegs: a kind of sadist this guy is?

Yeah.

Dan: And then he just kind of nods to the other guys Deal with that. Yeah. And walks out.

Reegs: Mm-Hmm.

Dan: Yeah. He's, he's cold.

Reegs: Oh, man. Then we come up to one of again. One of the great scene in the movie. Jack is a this like rally for his minority women of work type thing. And it's

Sidey: can I get an M? Wow.

Reegs: And then Wow. Yeah. And it's him.

It's a photo opportunity with him up on stage with a load of local black women and businesses that he's Been supporting this is, yeah, yeah. So, cause he has been putting money into the community. And he does this thing and then at the end of the photo op, he's accosted by a reporter and he doesn't like it and he gets in his car and we get this one shot of him leaving this kind of dilapidated, um, horrible place as he talks about what a piece of shit it is and how terrible everything is and how he, you know, and, and as he's talking, we.

The camera is just attached to the hood of the car, and we drive away about only about three minutes of screen time to his lush mansion in the middle of

Cris: and we, drive away about, only about

Reegs: area. In the 18th

Cris: of screen to his lush mansion in the middle of

Reegs: But yeah, it's, so that's

Sidey: kind of... But he's got his, his old man, this is where we meet Robert Duvall, isn't it?

And he's, and he's straight away says, Oh, do you like this new painting I've got? It's 50 grand. So, you know, it's up, the guy's up and coming, so it'll be worth blah, blah, blah. And the old man is concerned about the election and he's deeply fucking

Reegs: We don't,

Sidey: He said we don't, you know, we're not going to lose to, I can't repeat the way he puts it.

We're not going to lose to a black person.

Reegs: puts it, we're not going to lose

Sidey: he's apoplectic.

Reegs: Yeah, he's apoplectic. Jack doesn't like him, does he

Dan: And Jack doesn't like him, does he? I

Sidey: he? wants out, he doesn't want to do this.

Dan: he's like, he hates his old man. He's like, he says at one point, doesn't he?

You know. be better without you, basically.

Reegs: well he's been kind of thrust into this position. Yeah. He's been, you know, he's forced to live a kind of kennedyesque

Dan: Well, even in the role back in the car, the aid is kind of giving a pep talk. So what are you gonna do? Work in a bank? You're gonna work in a bank. This is us. This is what we do. You know, we are the people that do this, and he's been Take it in by the family name more than his own desire to, to

Reegs: to actually... Yeah, yeah. The,

Sidey: But the, the, the widows do start to get them forming the plan. They find,

Reegs: them forming plan.

Sidey: Yeah.

Reegs: It's like, you know, it's where, where they put the heists together and all that stuff and she calls all the women in there, doesn't she?

But the first, it's the first meeting in the sauna where No, they

Sidey: the first, it's the first meeting in the sauna where... Exactly what each other look like

Reegs: Oh yeah.

Sidey: in and then they agree to meet in the sauna Someone else comes in and Veronica just keeps putting steam on things till the lady leaves And then they discuss what they're gonna do and she's

Reegs: clearly in a place where no men can be,

Sidey: Yeah, and she's Clearly gonna be the boss.

She's in charge and she assign them a task. And she's very clear because the clock is ticking. You've got this thing, this one thing to do to get it fucking done, and then we'll meet up again and we'll, you know, Piece it all together.

Dan: And they, they all, they all take it on quite quickly and she

Sidey: they're all fucked.

Reegs: they're all used to a certain lifestyle that their husbands have provided, and that's one of the things that makes this interesting, because it, you know, it could make them hard to root for, but they are the closest things to heroes in this kind of...

Sidey: Well, Linda's had all her stuff taken away from her, she's also hated by her mother in law, who she's trying to sort of look after.

She's really horrible

Reegs: Well, the mother in law blames her

Sidey: Yeah, because it's your fault that I'm here and that he's dead. She's like, oh, thanks.

Cris: he's dead. Which the guy was a horrible, horrible man.

Like gambling, put everything in the

Reegs: had a four month, no, not a four month old with her, it's the other one, isn't it?

Amanda.

Sidey: But Alice, Alice has got nothing and is being pimped out by her mother.

Veronica she owes 2 million. So, they've, they have to do this really. They're kind of, well, the way they see it is there's no alternative. And so, they're given a few tasks to do. One of them Linda is given a schematic or a blueprint for a building and she's told to find out where that is because that's where the thing is that we're gonna rob.

Reegs: And she has, in a bit of a contrivance, coincidentally met this guy David who is an architect, or real estate agent, or something, or anyway, can help

Sidey: no, it's, it's the other way around, because Linda finds, Linda meets that guy, and weirdly gets off with him in his lounge, and then it's Alice who's starts

Reegs: I mean. It's a bit of a contrivance though, isn't it? In the plot that.

Sidey: she's like, oh, well I know someone who might be able to help with

Reegs: Yeah, exactly.

Sidey: he's, he's into her. But purely like transactionally. Yes. But he wants her to not see anyone else. point she, he says, let's make it exclusive, doesn't he?

Reegs: Yeah, but he does. But then at some point when she tries to get closer to him, he sort of backs out,

Dan: out. Well, well, yeah, he wants to be able to... To just walk away whenever, and that's what his

Sidey: but we do see her boobs.

Reegs: She's very tall, isn't she? This

Sidey: she? There's a thing about her mother, I think she's 6 foot 3 and the mother was 4 foot 11. That's why she had to be sat down in that scene where she and Tim, the mother slaps her.

They had to have her sat down because it looked ridiculous.

Reegs: She's

Cris: the mother,

Sidey: Yeah, she's a tall lady. She was

Reegs: She was in Tenet, did

Cris: She's in

Reegs: So, where else are we?

Sidey: they da Viola Davis. Really? She gets fucking annoyed at them because they can't do this one task that they've been assigned. She starts to lose her shit with them.

Cris: Well, to be fair,

Reegs: be, Alice is sent off to get guns, which is a good scene because it's pretty... She's like, well where am I gonna get guns? She's like, well this is America, so... Which is like, lol. And then

Cris: she's annoyed because of the van thing, which you would be annoyed. First of all, she pays six grand for a van.

The point being you go to an auction to get a van cheaper than what you would normally pay. And then she doesn't have a driving license,

Dan: license. Yeah, but she's gone to an auction to get a van that's not in her name.

And it's the same with the guns. You can get them everywhere, but, and same with the cars. But to get them not in your name for the fake, that's where she's paying for. But yeah, she hasn't got a driving license, you're right. That was very

Reegs: bad call. My

Sidey: guns. Yeah, but you can

Cris: clever. My husband beats me in the head sometimes.

Sidey: She scans

Dan: scans for her, around, she spots her target and she's like,

Sidey: and the lady said, oh, okay, well, yeah, I, I can help you with that. What is it your afternoon?

She's like, three o'clock. She's like, really?

Reegs: Well,

Cris: for each room.

Reegs: the woman that she picks, she sees her like browsing, like cocking one of the rifles and I'm pretty sure she's there with her

Sidey: child. She's,

Reegs: So that's why she picks her.

So,

Sidey: buying her, her first gun.

Dan: Well, she says, didn't it? The little girl. Mama, you always say a gun's a girl's best friend or something

Sidey: that.

Yeah, she does. Yeah.

Reegs: There's another bit of a sort of contrivance slash happenstance, which happens when. Belle gets introduced she's at a hair salon that's being like

Sidey: Yes, yeah.

Cris: Ah, the blonde, yeah, the blonde hair, Yeah.

Reegs: Yeah, and she has been introduced as she's had to cover as babysitter so when Linda's been off to do some of her missions and she becomes part of the gang pretty quickly. There's a great scene where Linda's task is to find out more about the... Building or something, isn't it? That's and she tracks down the architect. Or what she thinks is the architect and they have, she has a quiet conversation with actually the architect's husband, who, cause the architect was a

Dan: who's a, who's a widower,

Reegs: widow. And she kind of breaks down and you think she's going to seduce him to kind of get the information out of him, but no, it's just these two people who are really

Dan: it's just a moment, isn't it yeah

Cris: I found that very strange

Reegs: Yeah, it was a strange, but believable.

Cris: why they did that

Reegs: Well, because they were both recently bereaved, and they were in an emotional moment, and they, you know, they just kiss.

I mean, I, yeah, that's believable that something like that could happen between two strangers. You don't think so? Attached by a moment like that? Yeah, of course you

Dan: do. He

Sidey: in not in his house. That's what I thought. I was like, he's like...

Cris: In his house, and also, and don't get me wrong, I don't...

Reegs: Well, it's weird, it's cov like, everybody, they, they acknowledge

Cris: and why are you here, and this is all... This woman just

Dan: But she's quite attractive,

Reegs: I, I, they acknowledge the weirdness of it, but both of those people are recently bereaved and yeah, I think it's totally believable and horny. Exactly. So, what else happens? Well,

Cris: Well, they get the, the guy asked her to go to Shanghai because he gives her the Mm-Hmm. , plans. And who, whose house is it and where it is done? Yeah. To the, whatever her name is, Alice. She gets, so she gets the details

Reegs: Oh, it took me an age to realize that that was in Thingy's house.

Cris: in, her house.

Reegs: In in, no, in Robert Deval or whatever, in Jack Mulligan's house took me an absolute age to realize that that's the vault that they were breaking into.

Sidey: I didn't realize that until he came out of the room and...

Reegs: yeah. Yeah. Okay. I didn't realize were

Sidey: No, I don't think it was told. No, I

Cris: No, no,

Sidey: Because they wouldn't have had to find the architect to find out where this room was, if they'd known all along it was

Cris: The only the only time you you kind of guess that is behind that map or whatever

Reegs: It's when she goes in. That's, that's the time. That's the only time I realized

Cris: Yes, well what no one tells you before he just says these are the plans this is a safe This is a safe house. This is a safe room Where is it? And then the the guy says I know who someone to find and he gives her the address and she's like well I'm going to Shanghai tomorrow for a couple of days.

Do you want to come with me? And she goes? No, I've got commitment and he's like What do you mean, no?

Reegs: Yeah.

Cris: And then anyway,

Reegs: so this is how it all coalesces around Jack Mulligan and Robert Val's character in their house. And this is the vault that they're gonna break into the heist that, I don't think we said that.

The heist that's in the yeah. That they're gonna break into. So, yeah. Is this when they start scouting, have

Sidey: Well, isn't, isn't this the, around the time when Veronica goes to what's her name's place? No, the other lady that we've not

Reegs: Oh Olivia, is it? Or Amanda?

Cris: than that though.

Reegs: The other

Cris: That's a bit later.

Sidey: Well, I think she's just get into it because she goes there with the dog and the dog starts yapping at a door.

But

Cris: they meet before.

Sidey: they Yeah,

Cris: Because initially she calls, there's four women that are widows. Only three of them get together. The fourth one never shows up. Then she finally calls one evening and says, ah, should we meet? In a diner, they have a small chat, but it's a bit awkward between them.

It looks like Veronica tries to get her involved, but then she's like, I have a four months old child. I don't want to be involved. She it's, it's all a bit

Dan: also a little bit suspicious about how the fuck it could have gone wrong.

And you know, she's just, there's the first notes there from her that she doesn't quite believe that it happened,

Cris: She also, she was also the only one out of the other women that knew her husband and knew, Oh, he never gets sloppy. Well, he gets, he goes slow. I guess he goes sloppy. I guess he, but he never gets sloppy. Well, I guess he goes sloppy. So it's, it's just a bit of a weird conversation.

Dan: what I mean. Yes. Then I think she has doubts,

Cris: then she doesn't tell her anything about what she's planning to do.

And then I can't remember why, but she decides to go again to her

Sidey: goes to Sarah's house and she takes her dog.

Cris: Ask her to drive.

Sidey: we first seen them Harry and Veronica, like, really kissing. He goes for a shower afterwards and she brings him a shot.

Which she pours out of this flask. And she goes...

Reegs: very distinctive

Sidey: like a hip flask, but more...

Cris: Round, around the edges, and

Sidey: Anyway, it's probably still, whatever. She goes to the house and the dog starts yapping at this door and I don't think she sees it maybe she did, but we are shown this flask on a side

Reegs: the side table, and

Sidey: And I still didn't, I was like

Reegs: absolutely fucking

Sidey: I still didn't think, oh, okay. She stands and stares at this door and then leaves. Yeah. And the other chick opens the door, and fucking hell, he's sat there, and I thought, fuck me, I thought, I

Reegs: died,

Sidey: not expecting it, I thought he'd died, I really thought

Dan: Yeah, I

Cris: And also, throughout the movie, we get flashbacks of them being together, and also flashbacks of them being together and having moments where They kind of blame each other, and you also see that They had a son,

Reegs: They had a son, Marcus. Yeah, and we'll find out about him as well. Also, Jatem is on the trail of the money.

It's led him, I can't remember how, to the bowling alley.

Sidey: it's awful.

Reegs: scene. He just

Cris: Veronica around. He just follows her around everywhere, and then he realizes that she has something that they need. And then he goes to the bowling alley to see the guy in the wheelchair.

Sidey: Yeah. I assume that it was this crew that had battered him before and put him in a wheelchair.

Maybe. I, I didn't know. Not that it's important, but he tips him outta the wheelchair. Yeah. And stabs him.

Reegs: He's sort of testing where he can feel

Sidey: he, the first one is like a, just a, a stab above the waist. Yeah. So he feels that one. Then as he's lying on the floor, he just goes and starts stabbing his legs.

It's

Reegs: It's so casual, it's like, oh, it's so...

Sidey: is there. It's fucking grim. Obviously he's not reacting to the ones and eggs, but he's still bleeding.

Cris: And he

Sidey: And then he does a few more in the arm and

Cris: you can only feel the ones above though. Oh, right. I'll do that. Oh,

Sidey: terrible. So he, the guy's just like, fucking spills the beans. You know, he tells them everything he knows.

Fucking thank God.

Reegs: Also Jetter and his crew are led to bash

Sidey: yeah, he's been killed.

Reegs: Who was the faithful driver?

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: Sort of a simpleton. I don't know Ed Norton style like we had in the score,

Sidey: No, he just wasn't particularly clever

Cris: and he was addicted to loads of pills as we were...

Yes,

Reegs: as we saw and he's like horribly beaten to death while Daniel Kaluuya Well,

Sidey: turns the volume up on the telly

Reegs: TV's watching American football or whatever

Sidey: a bad dude

Reegs: Real nice then Where are we now?

Sidey: Well, we get the fla Basically, once we've seen that Liam Neeson Harry is still alive, We get

Reegs: Oh, the flashback to the,

Sidey: the flashback to what happened at the heist. And sure enough, he's fucking ripped off the crew.

Reegs: He set up a decoy body that

Sidey: does look quite a lot like him when you see it in the,

Cris: In the driver's seat,

Sidey: And we see him grab the stuff the money. He runs off behind a, a door and presses a button. Well, I think he fires a, he's the one who fires a couple of shots, which

Reegs: It kicks the shooting off,

Sidey: and then he just detonates the van. He's put some explosives in there and fucking up it goes fucking cold.

So he's killed the three guys.

Cris: Yeah, his partners.

Reegs: that but he has been working with jack to do it because we see them

Cris: outside of Chicago somewhere,

Reegs: right? Yeah, and Yeah, they split

Cris: They split, they talk about splitting the money. I still want a million. If you don't give me that one million, you're going to be

Dan: million you're going to be very much alone. You've been stealing

Reegs: eyes. Well, he's, he's stealing it from

Dan: so... And

Reegs: yeah. And then I think again, a part of this sequence is flashback is we get the reveal of kind of really what broke up the relationship, I guess, between Veronica and Harry in the death of their son, Marcus, who was killed in a traffic stop gone wrong.

Sidey: Yeah,

Dan: No, it's

Cris: Yeah, which that was, that was another one that I found strange as a scene because He gets stopped by the police. He keeps, he's on the phone constantly. He takes the wrong, like he turns where he shouldn't have turned because he forgot something in the car. And then he's still on the phone.

The police stops him. He's still on the phone. The police comes close to him. He's still on the phone. I'm thinking,

Dan: But for

Cris: everyone knows that you just fucking drop the phone, mate.

Reegs: Yeah, well, it shouldn't be like that though. I mean, yeah, anyway, he puts it down

Cris: and he gets shot. Anyway, I, I just thought it was a bit of a weird one. But

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: I think it's

Dan: that's at the heart of their kind of relationship then that they've got this you know against them and and they're Harry is mentally moved on as we learn a little bit later on but he's he's doing this one deal and he's fucking over his missus while he's doing it because It's all part of his plan as you see that to disappear and, and to sort of come out

Reegs: Well he'd started a new life with Amanda right? I mean that baby was obviously his and you know, he was, that was the plan to exit.

Dan: Well, they, they, they finally get to this kind of Well, the heist. There's a good scene where the girls are practicing running from, like, their, their truck to back. And you say, look, Check this out. This is how much this money's gonna fucking weigh, you know

Reegs: Tupperware with sand or

Dan: Yeah, and and they're going this is this is sort of like 60 pounds is 120 pounds or whatever it is Go and run there and back for it.

And again, yes, see ain't ain't bloody easy. This is what we're gonna have to do

Reegs: And they do a bit of security scoping

Dan: And yes,

Reegs: and

Dan: you've suddenly got the driver who's a babysitter who can run like the wind. She's joined the crew. What's her name? She's Belle. So Belle, she's done a lot of the scoping and she's like a ninja jumping around on the top.

And she's, she's crouched down and she can see sort of secret doors being

Sidey: She's kind of motivated because she works at the salon, and she keeps saying to, so the, the guys that put the money in, they're, they're just as bad as the fucking crooks because they want their cut out constantly. She says, you know, this guy might have set you up, but he's just taking all the money out of this thing, you know.

So she's like fucking, like, annoyed about that. And get a little payoff at the end. But we'll come to that.

Reegs: So Veronica has been given these like compromising photos of the security guy that's guarding...

Sidey: fucking niece!

Reegs: fucking his own niece, yeah.

Which gets them the passcodes or whatever that they need for the heist. And that, with the final part of the puzzle together, I think we pretty much go straight into it. It starts with them like, throwin a bunch of flares through,

Sidey: car windows. Car

Dan: Car window takes the, the outdoor security away, and then they're able to, to infiltrate through these kind of previously planned routes over the top that Bellwood had found as she's scoping, avoiding all the security cameras that have been positioned around.

All dressed in black masks and things, aren't

Reegs: They use the kids voice disguiser things from,

Dan: the knife! Get the gun! And that's it. There's not many security guards. They know

Reegs: there was one they established and they take him down pretty quickly

Cris: Yeah, that was the night of the debate as well, you know, when,

Dan: then, yeah.

Cris: was debating Jamal

Dan: then as they're moving upstairs, there's the The maid comes out and she's

Cris: She's Robert Duvall's nurse or like care or whatever

Dan: she steps back inside.

Reegs: she didn't see anything,

Dan: Didn't see anything, but... It's a mistake because as they're coming back down, having

Reegs: enter the code in... Oh, well there's a good moment where they're entering the code in, and it looks like they've got the code wrong. And then she realises she's got it upside

Dan: puts it in twice but it's upside down, it's not a six, it's a nine, and a one, and, and whatever.

Reegs: But it's going relatively well,

Dan: it's going okay, they're trying to, you know, they're, they're being fast.

You're always thinking it's taking too long though, this is still too long, you know. But they're loading up all the money, and as they come down... Robert DeVal is

Reegs: He

Sidey: He bust open and just shoots.

Dan: yeah, he,

Cris: He hits Alex,

Sidey: It hit. He hits Alice, isn't he? Yeah.

Dan: and then,

Sidey: but Linda fucking Takes him down.

Dan: takes him down.

Sidey: Shot, shot to the heart.

Dan: she's really cool and she, she takes the gun off him and, she goes, give me the gun, get down, sort of helps one in and they get into the van.

Bells in the, in the van. And they, they cruise on out

Reegs: here. They're off they drop Alice

Cris: they try to

Reegs: goes with her to, they go to a hospital,

Cris: they try to go, but there's the man with the gun. At Bell's

Dan: yeah. You're right,

Cris: right. They don't leave with a, with a van. yeah, course. They get left behind.

Dan: twist a alert.

They're in the car, they're about to drive away, and as she looks through the window at the back there, you just see the guns slide across, don't you? And just like there's a gun to her head. She ain't going anywhere. And that. They all get out of the car and he's, he's whistling, he's singing a song as he's driving off thinking easy, it's like four million, six million or whatever I'll ever earn and he's just driving up, but the girls haven't given up

Reegs: Well, you see a car come roaring up behind

Dan: I thought it was a police car first of all, I was

Sidey: that's women drivers.

Reegs: was

Dan: was it, you know, the lights about to go on and this guy was, but no it's them and they ram him into like a, a pylon.

Reegs: I think it's very bad driving from him, actually, in

Sidey: actually. Yeah, it seemed like plenty of time to hit the brakes or whatever. But anyway, he smashes head first. It's like, it's the corner between two like a fork in the road and he just slams straight into that airbag.

Poof! Inertia. Poof!

Dan: Don't

Sidey: think he's killed, right?

Reegs: oh yeah, absolutely fucking, yeah.

Sidey: some blood all over the windscreen. You see his face is all messed up. So they are able to retrieve the money. And now they drop Alice off at the hospital. Yeah She's jennifer or something and she's just been shot by her boyfriend or something and veronica goes back to the safe housey type thing. Yeah, he's come for the money

Reegs: Yeah. And they have a

Dan: she just turns around, doesn't she?

And he's there. He's trying

Sidey: does.

Reegs: it. He does. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah, No, that's it. He's, he's, you know, he's totally all about, I couldn't save us, but I tried to save me. Nice one cheers. Yeah. Yeah

Sidey: yeah.

Cris: then I, I need the money.

Dan: Live love. Yeah

Cris: need the money.

Reegs: I

Dan: He realizes as he's reached over. I'm gonna have to finish this. I'm gonna have to yeah, I'm gonna I've already said too much I'm gonna have to shoot.

This isn't how I wanted to go and as he turns to shoot She's already got one those cult out and or glocks or whatever it is and She's she shot him

Sidey: Whammy, yeah, he's down and she places the gun used to kill Robert Duvall in his hand.

Dan: Oh, it's tidy, yeah. I

Reegs: fitted him up real nice there. Sort of

Dan: of got the finger in there and, and sort of did it on

Sidey: It was good enough

Dan: was good enough for us,

Reegs: an opening shot case.

Cris: And it was also one of them that you get the scenes before where You know that everybody hates Harry

Sidey: Yeah.

Cris: so the police the because there's the scene the only thing I actually thought it was actually quite A cool it could have been said better, but when I got I've always said the Harry should burn in hell But I guess Chicago will do

Dan: Yeah. that's

Reegs: And in, in the backdrop to all of this is the

Sidey: Yes, that's exactly what I was about to say.

Reegs: You know, Jack Mulligan fueled by like antipathy towards his father and thrust into this world. They've gone to this debate and in the wake of this tragedy that's happened with him, his

Sidey: father, well, it's, we've, we've had this through line through the film.

So when they first had the meeting with the two brothers, they had a 12 point lead and it's been eroded throughout the film to the point where they were going to lose, they were going to lose the election.

Reegs: Yeah. And there's been a subplot we didn't mention about a local pastor who, which side is he going to choose and all that sort of stuff. Yeah.

Sidey: And because of the sympathy of having lost his father to this hideous crime, it's a landside, he wins

Reegs: Yeah, and potentially it's the lesser of two evils in this situation. You know.

Dan: Both massive assholes but yeah, maybe this one's slightly less

Reegs: Less shitty.

Dan: Purely because he doesn't, doesn't really want to be there,

Reegs: Well, and he was actually putting money into the community and doing projects and things, even if it was cynical, you know, it's quite complicated and nuanced as, as a lot of it was.

Sidey: But he is the alderman. He

Reegs: is the derman, he is the Oldman. And in the final scenes we get the distribution of the cash really,

Cris: we? Yes,

Sidey: we get the distribution

Cris: A shop.

Sidey: the cash, really, don't we?

Yes. buSiness.

Reegs: Only fans.

Sidey: Yeah, something like that.

Reegs: What was it?

Cris: She's meeting some other woman, but that's kind of it. They, this

Reegs: was just a friend.

Cris: is a friend. And then the, the bell leaves

Reegs: She leaves a stack of cash for her boss.

Cris: the boss with a salon. And

Reegs: can buy the salon outright

Cris: yeah. And then the last

Sidey: Veronica sets up a library in the name of her son.

Cris: Well, that's the scene in the, in the diner where you see. Alice and whoever this girl she's meeting and Veronica, they kind of just stare at each other because they don't expect, clearly they didn't decide to meet there.

Dan: Yeah.

Cris: just

Reegs: Yeah, I

Dan: Since it's...

Reegs: I got the impression

Dan: Well, I, I got the impression that they hadn't made, she'd gone to the hospital, obviously, and she hadn't then got in contact with them up until

Sidey: I also thought it was probably one of the things when you've done Gang crime, whatever you don't get seen together for like ages

Dan: Right, yeah, yeah.

Reegs: I think that is what's happened. Time's passed, they've bumped into each other. There's a possibility that they

Dan: And she's probably got some money of hers somewhere.

Reegs: yeah

Sidey: but yeah, that's it yeah, that's how it plays out

Dan: Yeah, it was decent. I enjoyed this. I was, I was pleasantly surprised actually because I'd heard about this before and I'd not really been sucked in by the trailer or, or the talk around it. There was other things I wanted to watch and then there was other films and so it just went off my radar. But I think it was Mark Kermode had done a review on it at the time.

And he'd liked it. And So it'd been in my mind, but I mean, there was a few years old on, but this whole premise of, you know, the the women doing the, the job really, you know, and she says they don't think we've got the balls to do it. But they obviously. knew their way around, they were committed, they worked as a team, there was all these kind of different characters, weren't overly stereotypical, because it's not a stereotypical kind of film, where

Reegs: Yeah, flawed in different ways. Yeah, it was, it was, it was good. Kept me,

Dan: Yeah. Floored in, in different ways. So yeah, it was, it was, it was good. Kept me, kept me interested and entertained.

Cris: Oh, I was bored to death.

Reegs: I

Cris: honestly, I, oh, it was, I mean, I fell asleep three times watching it. Three times. I was just, I couldn't keep my eyes open. I washed it.

Dan: was, you, was you just tired

Cris: I wasn't tired. I

Dan: that sent you to sleep, it sent you to sleep? Which parts did you just, kind of

Cris: well, I don't remember when I fell asleep, but it was just, I kind of fell asleep through it. It wasn't, I, I, I didn't think it was very exciting, to

Dan: it was pretty

Sidey: I thought it was pretty good. I enjoyed it.

Dan: love it. But the way it was put on,

Sidey: But I did, I did enjoy it. I put it on, you know, it kept me, I didn't get my phone out at any point. You know, I was, I was engaged with it the whole time.

I, I enjoyed it. I'd give it seven and a half out of 10.

Dan: Okay. That's strong.

That's

Sidey: to put a number to

Reegs: Yeah. That's a good number. Yeah. No, I really like this one. Yeah, I think I probably talked all the way that you could hear the things that I was enthusiastic about in it. Really good

Sidey: score by Hans Zimmerframe.

He also works on the original. Miniseries.

Dan: Right.

Sidey: Oh, there you go. Because he is quite old. Do you wanna know about Viola Davis's hair? I do. She asked Steve McQueen what kind of wig or extensions she should have in, and he said, we just just have normal hair if you want. Does she normal hair? And that was apparently quite a big thing for a black actress to not have to Yeah.

Do that sort of stuff. So she liked that. Okay. That's nice, isn't it? Yeah.

Dan: Has he done anything since this? Don't know

Sidey: Don't know about since, he's done things before. This was the first joint he'd done without Michael Fassbender. It cost 42 million to throw together.

Dan: It's made money.

Sidey: Has it now?

Dan: I reckon.

Sidey: What do you guys

Cris: don't think so. You can't, no! It's what, 12

Reegs: I think actually, I think it was mostly a critical darling and the box office kind of hated it.

Sidey: and the box office kind of hated it. No, this

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: a

Reegs: No, this is a really, really strong recommend. Don't listen to a thing Chris said. It's a really strong recommend for me.

Cris: really strong recommend. Alice walked into the garage and she was wearing that dress. And they're like, Oh, what are you wearing a condom?

Reegs: yeah,

Cris: So I did like that, but a very few things were, were, yeah, no.

Sidey: Oh yeah, you're

Cris: Oh yeah, you're,

Dan: most

Sidey: You're in

Reegs: am me.

Cris: in trouble if, yeah, anyone that can, I don't know, can look and see the top of your head. Yeah. I don't know. Am

Reegs: I allowed to wear the

Sidey: Yes, I think you would need to. Of course! You could be like Ron DeSantis with your lifts.

Yeah! So, strong recommend.

Cris: Yeah, strong recommend. Watch it. It's fantastic.

Dan: This was Dino Trax.

Reegs: Build it up!

Sidey: it! up! Do we want the theme tune for

Reegs: I don't know, it was a good one.

Dan: one.

Sidey: It was good.

Dan: was quite

Sidey: If I can find it somewhere, it'll go here. That was good, wasn't it?

Reegs: We will never know. We'll, I

Sidey: Dino Trucks, it pleases me because the way they spell trucks is a more efficient way.

Dan: Yeah,

Sidey: Yeah, It saves you two characters. it's T R U X.

Reegs: Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: So, right out of the gate, I was on board.

Reegs: This yeah.

Dan: What is this? This is,

Sidey: DreamWorks, it's a proper thing.

Dan: It's a Netflix thing. It's basically Transformers, but with

Sidey: but they don't transform.

Dan: they're dinosaurs and they don't transform. You're right.

Sidey: deformers.

Reegs: imagine this to be set, right, in the Cars universe.

Dan: Yeah.

Reegs: prehistoric. So

Dan: it's like a French, a Fred Flintstone version of cars.

Reegs: So, they are, it's, and a bit, sort of, yeah, what was, what were they called In the Transformers, I've had a complete...

Sidey: Constructicons?

Reegs: Was it the Constructicons? No, me, Grimlock, and all that. Dinobots. Dinobots, yeah. Bit, quite a lot of that going on as well.

With a sprinkling of Bob the Builder.

Dan: yeah.

Yes,

Sidey: yeah. Because these are... Tonka things.

Dan: They're quite well built.

Sidey: diggers or tools

Dan: but old,

Sidey: two that we meet, the main ones in this, one's a T Trux.

T

Reegs: T Trucks, yeah.

Sidey: Yeah. And the other one's a tiny little lizardy thing.

Reegs: Revit?

Sidey: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. A little chameleon type

Reegs: Yeah, thing.

What is the lifecycle of a truck? , because it's, yeah. Whenever with these things, it's always bizarre. Isn't

Sidey: Trux name?

Reegs: He's called, oh God TYRX.

Sidey: So he presumably would have died. He's like one of those wildebeest. Because he, he is a One of his tracks on his, you know, the wheel thing, like a tank tracks, is broken. And you know when you're watching like an Attenborough thing and one of the wildebeest or antelopes gets an injury and it's left, you're like, well, it's gonna die.

Like, it's not, it's not dead now, but it's, yeah, so he was injured. Well,

Reegs: When it happens in the aftermath of a volcanic explosion,

Sidey: Very topical, with Iceland about to go off again.

Reegs: Yeah. And I think he saves a baby like dump truck thing.

Ankley, Ankley. It's got a name.

Cris: you weren't buying the T Rex thing to help.

Sidey: of it. I

Cris: it

Sidey: for a T Rex to be so generous.

Oh! So they're like dinosaurs and they're trucks! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Wow! Wow, see? Ha ha ha ha ha ha! What did you think it was gonna

Cris: never No, I didn't give it any thought.

I just didn't know what to expect.

Reegs: Yeah, you don't have to give it a lot of thought though, to be honest, I do feel it's quite, yeah.

Anyway, so he escapes from the volcanic eruption which destroys everything, saving the Zankisaurus in a way, but damages his Tire Tread and he heads to another crater where he meets Revit who is

Sidey: Pedophile.

Reegs: a little, a little tool.

Sidey: Yes. Yeah.

Reegs: Which they make multiple jokes about and we

Dan: giggle about it. Was, was there some kind of, you know, magic roundabout,

Sidey: I don't know, maybe, something like

Dan: I don't know,

Sidey: like that, there was something, yeah.

Reegs: like that. There was something, yeah. And he fixes up his tread and

Sidey: Yeah, and he

Reegs: Yeah. And he also meets Detr, who's more typical aggressive. He's the sort of.

Sidey: Tyrannosaurus

Cris: T Rex.

Reegs: rex that you're talking about. And

Cris: the way I know them from Jurassic Park.

Sidey: There's

Reegs: He is. It's only room for one T Rex in, or T Rex in, in this

Dan: in, this story.

Reegs: Because they all eat ore, which is...

Dan: Yeah. that's what they're trying to bite and smash and eat and grab.

Sidey: Then?

Cris: They're ore ivorous.

Dan: Yeah,

Reegs: Although, there was an implication, I think, that the, that the D Trucks would eat the other ones,

Dan: Yeah. I think they'd attack and

Reegs: Eat them for their ore, maybe. He meets a bunch of other Dino Trucks as well, so...

Sidey: is to make friends,

Reegs: Yeah.

Sidey: and they're trying to point out that a t trucks wouldn't, or dinosaurs don't have inter species friendships. And he's like, well that's why we're gonna, we're gonna be

Reegs: gonna be

Sidey: Yeah, I think there was some message there for kids

Reegs: there was some message there for kids.

Cris: well, not necessarily because

Reegs: he gets to speak

Cris: all of them run away, but he only gets to speak to the crazy one

Reegs: away,

Cris: who doesn't run away. So I don't know. I think that's

Reegs: think he's very much the hero of the piece. So yeah, they're unfortunately the one that my youngest, she loves this program. She likes Ton Ton who is the Ankylosaurus. So he's the one with the surfer dude accent,

Dan: accent. He's the

Reegs: annoying one. I'm afraid.

Dan: a spin off as

Sidey: three series, yeah, but it

Dan: Don't Let

Reegs: And a spinoff as well. Dino Trucks Supercharged.

Sidey: try to supercharge? It ran from 2015 to 2017, so it is done. Don't worry about, you know,

Dan: you

Reegs: Mm-Hmm. buT yeah, so, but generally the voice acting is okay in this. But he was quite annoying. The surfer dude. So, yeah, they, he encounters a bulldozer y triceratops thing that gets stuck in some tar.

It's very, I

Sidey: because they, they're trying to build a bridge, aren't they?

Reegs: a bridge, aren't they? Yeah, well, this is where they build a bridge to, this is where it, like, grinds my gears a little bit with the premise, because they construct a very rudimentary bridge, because he realizes they can use all of the crane skills and the dump truck skills, they can all work together to build this bridge.

I think, how did he come up with this, like, they're all made out of complicated mechanical Parts like and he can't figure out a fucking bridge like until he's got four other people with him just seemed like maybe it's nitpicking

Sidey: but... I thought he could have swung his ball and chain thing over. Yeah. To just scoop the thing out of the tar pit.

Reegs: tar pit.

Yeah Probably what i'm supposed to take is the message about everybody working together and all that

Dan: not the worst thing I've seen kids wise.

Actually, I think

Sidey: it's pretty good.

Cris: Yeah. Yeah.

Sidey: The soundtrack is banging. It's really, really good.

Dan: There are some Strange uses of language and and tone and things, I, I think, but nothing that is gonna be offensive or anything like that, so, yeah, just about on the right side of, of okay and cool, this, I think, for

Reegs: side of okay

Dan: Yeah, dino

Reegs: this, I think, for me. It's DreamWorks,

Sidey: Oh, I was going to say, yeah, it really looks good.

It's DreamWorks, and it's like a proper thing. They've thrown money at it. I mean, it's, it's just Dino Trucks on the screen, and the backdrops are fairly bland. But it, no, it does look proper. It's good.

Cris: Yeah, I have to say I enjoyed that. It was, it was actually alright. And like you say, the voices were quite good.

Reegs: It's

Cris: Yeah.

Sidey: So, all in all, I would say DinoTrux. Strong recommend? Definitely.

Cris: Yes,

Dan: Yeah, I thought that was clear.

Sidey: Pete's not around next week. Whether he said he was going to be here this week, so

Dan: who knows what Pete's doing? He is just sat at home eating

Sidey: Yeah, our

Reegs: cheese

Dan: Yeah.

Sidey: so I don't know. It's not my noms, and it's not Riggs noms.

Reegs: No.

Cris: I've had the Musketeers a couple of weeks. I've got something in... The pipeline. If there's

Dan: one, it's come back round me, I think. And I will, I

Cris: it's Dan. it's Dan.

Dan: Hold onto your hats folks. I'll get them to you. I'm not saying

Cris: anything.

Reegs: Is it one of those where you're gonna, like, randomly pluck a movie out and threaten a theme, and then... yeah.

Sidey: us on Saturday

Dan: the end? Yeah, probably, you know.

Reegs: to know by

Dan: give you, by, by, by the time this pod comes out,

Sidey: Okay, groovy. All that remains is to say, Sidey signing out.

Reegs: Reeg's out.

Cris: Chris is done.

Dan: to say